Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

[Entrerriano]

World War I: Restoring Poland, by the Library of Congress
Map 1
Map 2
Map 3

Map 1 in QBAM form (will soon do the other two, I hope Google Translate can help me)

Spoiler: Each Version Separately

Polish Nucleus:

Polish Nucleus + Polish Fringe:

French Proposal (Includes Nucleus and Fringe):

French Proposal + Maximum Claims in the East:

Maximum Claims in the East only, no French Proposal in the West:

 

[BrobDingnag]

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A few proposals from the Expansionist Party of the United States, detailing possible states of the US in both Canada and the UK.

I'll do the "detailed" Canada map eventually.

England deserves eight senators in the same way that Yukon deserves two. That is, not at all. But yes, annex everything here. I’m all for that.

 

[Baconheimer]

Similar to the Expansionist Party, here is Guyana, USA, an organization devoted to making Guyana an American state. Its membership appears to be limited and it is run out of a law office in New York, but they have some interesting ideas, like making every currently independent country in the Caribbean a state.

 

[Analytical Engine]

Similar to the Expansionist Party, here is Guyana, USA, an organization devoted to making Guyana an American state. Its membership appears to be limited and it is run out of a law office in New York, but they have some interesting ideas, like making every currently independent country in the Caribbean a state.

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Some of those options make Wyoming look like California.

 

[Umbric Man]

I gotta be real - if you're gonna use the American flag in the canton you either need to just use the stripes or the stars/naval jack. I prefer stars, but I acknowledge they're crowded and the stripes are more visually striking...

 

[James the AH Fan]

Karel Kramář's proposed union of Russia, Poland, and Bohemia, alongside his proposed Balkan borders in Worlda

 

[Mr. Bubbles]

The Great Sioux Nation as it was supposed to be established in the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868

 

[Aghasverov]

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The Great Sioux Nation as it was supposed to be established in the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868

Good catch that the northern boundary doesn't precisely follow the OTL boundary between N and S Dakota

 

[Transparent Blue]

Similar to the Expansionist Party, here is Guyana, USA, an organization devoted to making Guyana an American state. Its membership appears to be limited and it is run out of a law office in New York, but they have some interesting ideas, like making every currently independent country in the Caribbean a state.

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I love how they didn't even try for Guadalupe.

 

[Crazy Boris]

Similar to the Expansionist Party, here is Guyana, USA, an organization devoted to making Guyana an American state. Its membership appears to be limited and it is run out of a law office in New York, but they have some interesting ideas, like making every currently independent country in the Caribbean a state.

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“How do we change these flags to be more American?”

“Just use the American colors and maybe throw a star on there, and replace the Union Jack with old glory on any flags with that”

Because as we all know, American State flags never use other colors. And Hawaii? What Union Jack, that’s a Union Jim, totally different.

Also

I have to point out

“British Virgin Islands, USA”
“Dutch Antilles, USA”

 

[Baconheimer]

Some of those options make Wyoming look like California.

Agreed. TTLs Senate would be so imbalanced.

I gotta be real - if you're gonna use the American flag in the canton you either need to just use the stripes or the stars/naval jack. I prefer stars, but I acknowledge they're crowded and the stripes are more visually striking...

For sure, though the fact this appears to be the side project of some attorney makes me think there wasn't too much thought devoted to the flags.

“How do we change these flags to be more American?”

“Just use the American colors and maybe throw a star on there, and replace the Union Jack with old glory on any flags with that”

Because as we all know, American State flags never use other colors. And Hawaii? What Union Jack, that’s a Union Jim, totally different.

Also

I have to point out

“British Virgin Islands, USA”
“Dutch Antilles, USA”

The names definitely need some work. I am amused by the state of Dominican Republic.

 

[Gokbay]

I wonder how they decided to calculate numbers for Jews. It also appears that ‘others’ has rather strongly increased.

I would guess that could be because various ethnicities other than Poles have been included in "Other".

 

[Codae]

“British Virgin Islands, USA”
“Dutch Antilles, USA”

You would think it'd be weird, but Canada's gotten along fine with a British Columbia.

 

[Crazy Boris]

You would think it'd be weird, but Canada's gotten along fine with a British Columbia.

but BC doesn't have the "British" in its name to differentiate it from another place like "American Columbia" or something.

 

[Gokbay]

but BC doesn't have the "British" in its name to differentiate it from another place like "American Columbia" or something.

I mean, it kinda does (referring Oregon/Pacific Northwest)

 

[Wendell]

Similar to the Expansionist Party, here is Guyana, USA, an organization devoted to making Guyana an American state. Its membership appears to be limited and it is run out of a law office in New York, but they have some interesting ideas, like making every currently independent country in the Caribbean a state.

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There's no way that each of those polities would be admitted as distinct states.

 

[Crazy Boris]

I mean, it kinda does (referring Oregon/Pacific Northwest)

Yeah but no one calls it “American Columbia” like how people say “US Virgin Islands” and “British Virgin Islands”. I don’t think they even did back then

 

[Votre Idéolinguiste Local]

Yeah but no one calls it “American Columbia” like how people say “US Virgin Islands” and “British Virgin Islands”. I don’t think they even did back then

The British back then refered to the South Part of the Oregon Country as American Columbia, since to them "Oregon" didn't exist, it had always been called Columbia by British settlers and administration. "Oregon Country", which the American settlers and administration used came from the French fur traders that sometimes crossed the Rockies, calling the place between basically the Klamath and the Queen Charlotte Islands "Pays de l'Ouragon", which itself came from the Spanish Orájon or Oréjon

 

[Flashman]

The British back then refered to the South Part of the Oregon Country as American Columbia, since to them "Oregon" didn't exist, it had always been called Columbia by British settlers and administration. "Oregon Country", which the American settlers and administration used came from the French fur traders that sometimes crossed the Rockies, calling the place between basically the Klamath and the Queen Charlotte Islands "Pays de l'Ouragon", which itself came from the Spanish Orájon or Oréjon

I thought Oregon came from a native (Ojibwe?) word "Waurecan," which meant "Great River." It was originally tied to the Ohio, and then was tied by French trappers to the mythical "River of the West," a series of rivers lakes and portages that would lead from the Northwest Territories to the Pacific.

 

[GodoftheTranses]

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