Pop-culture of the Kaiserreich

Discussion in 'Alternate History Books and Media' started by terranova210486, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. terranova210486 Well-Known Member

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    This idea was inspired by an earlier thread I've done: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/pop-culture-in-tl-191.463675/

    Basically, here we do posts for what the films, books, TV shows, comics and video games in the Kaiserreich might be like. For example we could have a Syndicalist Star Wars, an Entente Star Trek (William Shatner) or even a German Die Hard.

    And yes, I am aware that a lot of it would depend on the outcome of the Second American Civil War, so multiple timelines and scenarios are welcomed.
     
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  2. terranova210486 Well-Known Member

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    So, anyone interested?
     
  4. RiverDelta So...yeah.

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    I'm not sure what to do, here?
     
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    We post photos and articles involving pop-culture in any KR scenario
     
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  7. RiverDelta So...yeah.

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    Well, yeah, but I'm not sure about any typical formats or places to start.
     
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    Like I've said before, no matter who wins we'd still be getting alot more yellow peril stuff into the late 2th century than we did in our timeline. Japanese cyberpunk tropes with teeth would be everywhere if Japan isn't beaten
     
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    Hugh Bonneville as Robert Crawley, Seventh Earl of Grantham in the hit British Broadcasting Union show The Crawleys of Downton. The series tells the story of an aristocratic family from the fictional Downton Abbey in Yorkshire, and their lives before, during and after the First Weltkrieg, the Revolution and the Second American Civil War/Second Weltkrieg. The show was interestingly even-handed on the subject of the pre-Revolution aristocracy, showing Lord Grantham in particular as being a largely-decent man who truly cared for his tenants and did his utmost to ensure they had good lives, his main flaw being an inability to truly comprehend that Syndicalism, so different from the system under which he had grown up, could truly work. Ultimately, Lord Grantham is shown as being in many ways a victim of the class system, with it being a sense of extremely reluctant duty to that system that leads him to conclude his arc by joining a monarchist group, trying to help smuggle Canadian spies into Britain and ultimately being caught and shot. Most viewers would feel strong sympathy for the character, seeing him ultimately as a man out of time rather than an evildoer.


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    Michelle Dockery as Lady Mary Crawley, a major antagonist figure in later seasons of The Crawleys of Downton. Her major arc was her establishing herself in Canadian Exile society and working to assist the promotion of politicians such as Winston Churchill and others. While she was an antagonist, the show continued to be even-handed with her, showing how even as she treated others with increasing cruelty, she remained kind to the family butler Carson who had followed the family into exile, and struggled with depression and a growing drug addiction. Even viewers who loved to hate the character admitted to feeling sympathy in her final episode: when taken prisoner by American forces following the attempted Canadian invasion of 1938, after delivering a vicious rant against Syndicalism she was shown breaking down crying and repeating 'I just want to go home...'

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    Jessica Brown Findlay and Allen Leech as Sybil Branson, née Crawley, and Tom Branson. The main protagonist characters of the piece, viewers were particularly fond of their arc, going from a forbidden romance between aristocrat and servant to marriage and new life within the Union of Britain. Sybil's arc was seen as especially satisfying, with her desire for a more meaningful life than that of an aristocratic woman being ultimately met through a new career as a social worker and eventually her election as a senior member of the TUC. Tom's initial arc, as a former Irish Republican who becomes passionately involved with British Syndicalism, met with mixed reviews though his later arc - initially enthused by Oswald Mosely's rhetoric, but ultimately aiding in preventing the would-be tyrant from taking power - was much better received.

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    Katie McGrath as Eileen Branson, daughter of Tom and Sybil Branson. A major protagonist character in later seasons, Eileen's arc - her working to become a pilot with the Republican Air Force and her war record in the Second Weltkrieg, her relationship with the character of Anne-Marie Gold (played by Melissa Benoist from the Commonwealth of America) - together with her general fearlessness and outspoken nature led to the character becoming a beloved figure among younger female viewers across the Internationale.
    A/N: Based on an idea I mentioned to @Worffan101 after watching Downton Abbey recently XD - another sign of spending too much time on AH.com, you see Kaiserreich everywhere!!!
     
  10. terranova210486 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent
     
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  11. RiverDelta So...yeah.

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    Syndiepunk 2020
    "Welcome to life on the edge" - Tagline of the game

    Syndiepunk 2020 is a game made in 1989, based on the existing genre of Syndiepunk in the Orthodox Syndicalist CSA. Syndiepunk as a genre has always been a criticism of new technology but, more importantly, of old society. Direct democracy breeds obsessiveness and ideological bitterness, while the bureaucratic structures of syndicalism often lead young people to feeling disconnected and treated as a machine. Children in schools are taught values of charity and unity, but in practice mild corruption and the politicization of all life are uncomfortable. Syndiepunk is a resistance against the notion that a human being can be abstracted into the machine of democracy. It is nihilistic, individualistic, and even capitalist in a certain way.

    The premise of Syndiepunk 2020 is that in the distant future of, well, 2020, the Combined Syndicates of America is changing. Advanced technology has led to advances like robotic limbs, vat-grown body parts, nuclear and solar technology, and genetic engineering, but those advances are distributed unevenly by the CSA's government and favor those who 'play by the rules'. An underground profession of 'gun punks' serve as rebels, fighting against cruel militias and dodging Department of Internal Security agents armed with machine guns and robotic eyes. Everyone who plays by the rules is tracked, with digital dossiers keeping Reed-De Leon D.C. informed of who's playing by the rules and who isn't.

    Players are disaffected rebels aiding the PSA or sowing discord in occupied Canada. They may also just be out for money, with individual labor organizations paying them to sabotage other organizations. Gun punks may even assist gangsters and such on the streets, going on epic heists against the people who play by the rules or even the people who make the rules. They use false identities and fake thumbprints. They sometimes go in quietly and lie their way into some administrative block, or maybe they'll bring a machine gun in and just paint the walls red.

    Despite having emerged in the CSA on the part of countercultural libertarians, Syndiepunk is quite popular in Europe, especially in the Entente. There, the more nuanced understandings of how the CSA operates are often scrubbed away in favor of a simpler story of capitalist rebels versus syndicalist tyrants. CSA Syndiepunk players often deride 'Ententepunks' for their simplistic views of the game, though 'cross ocean games' have been recently brought into existence in recent times.
     
  12. theg*ddam*hoi2fan Beware of the Leopard

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    Thank you kindly :D
     
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    Very interesting, just got into the Downtownabbey show and this would be a awesome interpretation of it. One question do the internal dominate the world or does the Reichspakt still compete with them?
     
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    Screenshots from a Russian first person shooter which tells the story of the Russian campaign of the Second Weltkrieg. It has been criticized for historical revisionism, ignoring Russian war-time atrocities such as mass-rapes of German women, and for the in-game brutality towards German soldiers, with the German government decrying the game as 'anti-German propaganda'.
     
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    Any ideas how an Entente Star Trek would work?
     
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    How would Imperial Germany media evolve?
     
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    Emerald Fennel as Nurse Patience ‘Patsy’ Mount and Kate Lamb as Nurse Delia Busby in British Broadcasting Union show Call the Midwife. Centred around midwives of the new Nursing and Midwifery Union working in London’s East End between the mid-to-late 1950s and early 1960s, the show is known for its nostalgic charm yet also praised for addressing real historical issues: the increasing liberalisation of Union society following the end of pre-Weltkrieg rationing and fears of German invasion; continued medical innovations and the ongoing growth of medical unions and other social spending; the continued difficulties suffered by young people descended from aristocratic families - as seen in Patsy’s character -; the sweeping changes in the previously-deprived East End; and the obsolescence of religious organisations that had previously handled healthcare in poor communities. ​

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    Shaun Evans as Detective Sergeant Endeavour Morse and Roger Allam as Detective Inspector Fred Thursday, People’s National Police, in BBU crime drama Endeavour. A prequel to the popular Inspector Morse show that ran between 1989 and the early 2000s, Endeavour has been praised for a period-accurate portrayal of the city of Oxford during the 1960s and the capturing of the existential doubts faced by many traditional universities during the period, as the increased numbers of new technical colleges and a drop in student intake led many to question if they could continue operating. While the modern viewer knows that they did, and would indeed go on to thrive, at the time the fear was a very real one. Critics have also praised the show for the strong chemistry between Morse, a young man of the generation that had grown up under a secure and democratic Syndicalist government, and the more old-school Thursday who had experience of a time when both Syndicalism’s survival and the democratic nature of the Union were both threatened.

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    Art from the comic Invasion, a story appearing in the popular British science-fiction comic Future Echoes between 1977 and 1978. Set in the then-future of 1999, it told the grim story of an attempted invasion of the Union of Britain by the fictional Volgan Empire (an obvious expy for Russia) and of guerrilla resistance to this invasion led by the character Bill Savage, a former lorry driver and elected Chairman of a major haulage union. While the story was a decidedly grim one - especially when considered against the more optimistic (yet still realistic and often gritty) science-fiction and fantasy stories usually found in Future Echoes - it was popular during its run, and ended on a largely hopeful note.

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    William Hartnell as the first incarnation of the character of The Time Master, a time-travelling alien who travels to different worlds and eras accompanied by human companions. A major BBU show, Time Master began with its first serial ‘An Unearthly Child’ in 1963, and would run until 1967 before ending prior to a long-running revival in 1981. While early scripts have been somewhat derided for their ‘moralising’ approach - the past is frequently judged by the standards of modern Syndicalist values, and imperialist/capitalist societies and aliens are frequently shown as obvious antagonists - it was an advanced show for its day and would lay the groundwork for more hard-hitting science-fiction shows, including the much-beloved cultural institution Pilots of the Future.
     
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    In this world, Germany et al went down after Savinkov’s Russia jumped on their backs while they were winning against France. What followed was a Cold War between the largely-democratic Internationale (the Totalists lost big) and a swollen neo-Russian Empire under Savinkov plus his successors, with a gradually-democratising Japan as the dominant power in Asia that was officially neutral but everyone knew would side against Russia if a war broke out. Ultimately, the Internationale ‘won’ the Cold War after multiple nationalist uprisings across Russia’s territories, an internal power struggle between reformists and hard-liners, and other issues.

    They’re the dominant power in TTL’s world, though Japan and its allies (including a recently-reunited, increasingly powerful China) are still a force to be reckoned with, but there’s no major conflict fault lines and trade is mutually profitable so the risk of war is low. A lot of the world is Social Democratic at the very least, wither thanks to Internationale influence or in Japan/China's case to make sure their workers are satisfied enough that Revolution can’t be exported easily to them :p
     
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    Gregory Peck as Hugh O'Flaherty, in the White and the Red, the story of the real life Monsignor Hugh O'Flaherty, his work in Ireland in the first days of the Syndicalist occupation to smuggle out Political Dissidents and POWs from the disastrous Operation Fortitude (the ententes Attempted invasion of the British Isle which ended any hopes of Entente Reconquest of the Home Isle) and his eventual death at the hands of Syndicalist Police services. Released in the midst of the cold war and at the beginning of the second Irish War for indepdence (one of the principal reasons for the fall of the Union of Britain) It is praised for Pecks excellent acting and historical accuracy in its telling of O'Flaherty's story and ultimately the beginning of the Occupation as a whole, winning Oscars for both Acting and Historical Accuracy.



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    The Amazon serial Jack Ryan, inspired by the well regarded Spy series by Tom Clancy and taking a more modern take. CIA anaylst Jack Ryan stumbles onto a plot by the Russian agents to ignite the powder keg of civil war in Western Europe still recovering from the Fall of Syndicalism. Traveling all over Europe from the narrow streets of Madrid to the snowy Alps, It is praised as a excellent suspenseful thriller with John Kraksinski praised for playing the earnest Jack who while at first he is out of his depth adapts and becomes a formidable agent,and Kenneth Branagh as the cunning Russian agent
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