Moonlight in a Jar: An Al-Andalus Timeline

And even if it existed, it's unlikely it would spread to Al-Andalus. By the 21st century, Andalusi Islam will probably be its own branch of the faith because of distance, independent evolution and assimilation of natives.
To be fair I did say stuff like this earlier, but to use arguments and devil advocate. Andalusia Islam is still Sunni unless a new caliphate arises there, they would folloe abbasid caliphate. The Baghdad caliphate will also try and stop any heresy growing their either.

If it is a secular society I want to know how it developed along side Islam and didn't clash.
 
To be fair I did say stuff like this earlier, but to use arguments and devil advocate. Andalusia Islam is still Sunni unless a new caliphate arises there, they would folloe abbasid caliphate. The Baghdad caliphate will also try and stop any heresy growing their either.

If it is a secular society I want to know how it developed along side Islam and didn't clash.

It's still Sunni in theory. In practice it diverges with each passing year. And the Caliphate doesn't have the power projection to remove heresy. The Baghdad Caliph is just a pet to whoever hold the city at this point, not a political power.
 
The Andalus of 2018 is quite unlike the Andalus of the 12th century, as is probably the most blindingly silly thing I'll say in this thread.

It may even be that future!Andalus isn't an especially religious country, or that faith has come to play a different role as Islam developed in a very different world. But we'll have to see. Certainly Iqal and his classmates seem to be finding a fairly open society.

I mean, it's strongly implied that OTL 2018 is either as advanced or more advanced(assuming that the various tourist/modern-day posts or perspectives are roughly OTL 2018, so "a pretty old town attracts tourists" is about as surprising as nothing really.
 
@Planet of Hats what calender do they use in your world (modern) days are their seven and names, dating system is it different or based on the islamic or Chinese.

also may i ask this is not meant to be any critism or any complaints, but will the timeline start move faster as we've been in the teasers and more future yet we are not in the late medieval period yet. Again please, don't take this as hurry up and advance, or me complaining its just you stated in one update you want to start moving along faster in the timeline.
 
@Planet of Hats what calender do they use in your world (modern) days are their seven and names, dating system is it different or based on the islamic or Chinese.

also may i ask this is not meant to be any critism or any complaints, but will the timeline start move faster as we've been in the teasers and more future yet we are not in the late medieval period yet. Again please, don't take this as hurry up and advance, or me complaining its just you stated in one update you want to start moving along faster in the timeline.
I actually have been trying to move things along a little quicker. I keep getting bogged down in my own impulses towards detail.
 
ACT IV Part XIII: The Matter of Europe - Abridged
Excerpt: A Learner's Abridged History of Europe - Scholastic Supply Press (Textbook), AD 1977


In truth, the extended conflict with the al-Mutahirin is one of the less well-covered elements in Andalusi history. Certainly Mu'izz ad-Din dispatched an army to the central Maghreb alongside several Zenata tribes, mainly those based in and around the Rif. The process of battling the zealots led to a loose alliance between the Saqaliba, the Zenatas of the western Maghreb and the Igiderids of Ifriqiya, drawn together by a common interest in booting the troublesome Sanhaja zealots out of the region.

The wars dragged on for years, and Mu'izz ad-Din, already an old man, didn't live to see the end of them: He died in 1152 and passed the office of hajib on to his nephew Bakr on schedule. While a pretender of the Umayyad line attempted to make a bid to restore the privileges of the Caliph while Bakr (who took the name Musharraf ad-Din) was out on campaign, driving the al-Mutahirin from Tiaret, this attempt at a palace coup proved abortive, and the plotters were quickly sent into exile in the Juzur al-Kaledat.[1]

The course of the fighting in the Maghreb took its toll on political dynamics there. The leader of the Ifranids - one Abu Bakr ibn Warmaksan - was killed sometime in 1154 while in action against the remnants of the al-Mutahirin, and the ensuing succession struggle between his three sons saw the Ifranid kingdom erupt into civil war. In need of men now, Musharraf ad-Din forged an alliance with Atiyya ibn Rezki, then the ruler of Oran and a member of the Zenata tribal confederacy. Atiyya, an accomplished warrior, lent a large body of veteran cavalry to Musharraf ad-Din's cause, and the two forged a strong bond as comrades in arms, riding out onto the field to complete the work of routing the al-Mutahirin and driving their remnants into the desert over the decade.

By 1159, beset by revolts and wars from without, the bulk of the al-Mutahirin were reduced to a handful of mountain redoubts in the Saharan Atlas, with many of the local lords swearing fealty variously to the Umayyads, Igiderids and to Atiyya's nascent Rezkids. It would be the first time that much of the Maghreb would work together with the Caliph at Córdoba, foreshadowing future divisions of Islam: With the Abbasid Caliph a mere puppet of Turkmens and lacking the reach to aid the Berbers in their struggles, and the Fatimids continuing to hold court at Cairo for the time, Maghrebi and Andalusian Islam found the beginnings of common cause. In this period, the name of the Umayyad Caliph, Muhammad III, was placed in the khutbah from Marrakech to Tripoli to Saraqusta.

Truthfully, the ensuing years have less to say about the goings-on of the Umayyads and Saqaliba than then do of the Maghreb. In Córdoba, Musharraf ad-Din dedicated much of his rule to enriching the nation through economic and building programs, waging the yearly jihad against Santiago, Navarre and the Provencal world with little serious attempt to gain territory - these raids increasingly seen as somewhat perfunctory.

Atiyya ibn Rezki, however, took advantage of his relationship with Musharraf ad-Din to pounce on the squabbling divisions of the Ifrinid kingdom. With sanction from the Saqaliba, Atiyya stormed westward and drove Ibn Warmaksan's son Agilas from Fes, seizing the traditional capital of the Maghreb for himself in 1063. Over the next few years he and a series of talented generals would earn the fealty of the tribes west of there, on towards Anfa but not quite up into the mountains, where Sanhaja tribes routinely clashed with the new Zenata overlords of the western Maghreb.

For the next several years, peace was the order of the times, with the men of Santiago making no territorial gains but the men of al-Andalus making only one in return: The arrival of Andalusi sailors on Jazirat al-Liwaril in 1166.[2] The name of its discoverer is not recorded, but while the Juzur al-Kaledat were seen as a minor economic resource, Jazirat al-Liwaril seems to have piqued the interest of the governor of Qadis, who dispatched a small group of ships to settle the island as a forestry colony. While Iberia itself was not devoid of trees, the lush forests of Liwaril tempted Andalusi merchants with the prospect of abundant hardwood.

The time of this settlement marks the first appearances of the ship known as the saqin, or knife ship - an evolution of the typical lateen sail-carrying fishing boats used off the Andalusi coast for ages prior, the early saqin was larger, faster and with a second mast. The ship is apparently so named for its perceived ability to cut through heavy ocean currents and return home from the islands, and it seems to have originated in Denia and Qadis at roughly the same time, not long after the discovery of the Kaledats. The ships still would not prove to be enough to round Ra's Bujadur,[3] and no records of ships sailing past the cape or the Kaledats exist for decades to come. Certainly the early saqin remained in its embryonic state in the 12th century, not quite refined enough to conquer the cape, much less master the wind cycles - but it proved adequate to the task of helping a small group of daring merchants carry hardwood back from Liwaril and dragon's blood and cash crops back from the Kaledats, the islands having begun to be used to grow sugarcane, dates and lemons.

TEST QUESTIONS:
i. Explain the differences between Muslim kings in the Maghreb and Christian kings in Francia.

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The time of relative peace in Andalus came at a time in which Europe continued to grapple with the fallout from the Lateran Wars, among other conflicts - among the more notable, the conflict between Francia and the Anglish Earl of Nodingham[4], who had come into the rule of Brittany through his marriage to Hawise of Nantes and brought his daughter's father-in-law, King Sten Thorntongue of Angland, in on his side against the efforts of the king of the Franks, King Geoffrey II. The so-called Breton Wars dragged on through the 1140s and into the next couple of decades as the eventual death of the Earl of Nodingham saw Brittany fall into his daughter's hands, and through her to her spouse, King Sten's son and heir, Prince Arvid the Black. At various points, half of northwestern Europe was involved in some capacity, with Scotland briefly coming in on the side of the Franks in the hopes of winning back Strathclyde from the Anglish, a few German dukes gnawing on Francia with the consent of the Holy Roman Emperor, and gold flowing into the hands of Norman and German sellswords until it somehow ended with the Pope excommunicating the Count of Lower Lorraine despite said Count not actually being part of the war, Geoffrey dying of dysentery and Count Archambaud of Blois being elected King of Francia in 1163 through his marriage to Geoffrey's daughter and sole legitimate child (leaving aside the dozen or so bastards), and the eventual King Arvid of Angland hanging on to Brittany and some the Cotentin Peninsula except St. Malo while staving off constant challenges from the Duke of Normandy, who wanted his land back with interest.

Events like the Breton Wars are sometimes held up as proof of why al-Andalus survived - after all, Christendom seemed constantly riven by these disputes. But sloppy feudal messes of this nature were far from uncommon in this period - even medieval al-Andalus featured more than its share of feuding over land between local landlords and Saqaliba-appointed governors, saying nothing of the outright Rezkid conquest of the Maghreb.

However, more than a few events of note played out in these years - the second leg of the Lateran Wars most consequential of all.

TEST QUESTIONS:
ii. How did inheritance work in Christian law?

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The death of Pope Leo X in 1033 brought a new succession of pontiffs. He was succeeded in short order by his fellow reformer, Boniface VIII - but Boniface lasted approximately 45 days before dying of a heart attack and bringing a series of short-lived and inconsequential pontiffs. Boniface IX, Gregory VII and John XXII all came and went before 1140 was out and the pontificate passed to Urban III, who made it until 1147 and is notable mainly for marshaling the resources of the Church behind a stunning defense of Hungary against the Turkmens and Pechenegs. The short-lived Lucius II followed until, finally, 1149, when the pontificate was bestowed upon an Italian from Lucca by the name of Guido Simonetti, who took on the name of Pope Sebastian I.

The chain of inconsequential Popes had softened the power of the Papacy just four and a half decades after the Great Deposition, and in that time, more than a few German dukes had begun to appoint their own Bishops again in defiance of the Church. The Emperors themselves sat by and wrung their hands piously, save for a few occasions in which the Billungs did take action to tamp down on rebellious vassals, but while the angry words of the Popes scared a few local lords into line, over time the Popes grew too powerless and too distracted by concerns in the Haemus to keep tabs on the affairs of the Germans.

The death of Bernard III in 1148 brought to the throne a northern Emperor: Duke Ruthard of Havelland's power base lay in the north, in lands reft from the Slavs in Adventures a century prior, and he held a deep cynicism as pertains to matters of faith, finding the Popes to be mere pawns of Italian lords who disdained the rightful successors of Charles the Great. Almost right away, Ruthard and Pope Lucius II clashed: Ruthard's interests lay in the north, where he sought Papal sanction to launch an Adventure in Livland, while Lucius pushed him to send troops to help Hungary rein in Turkmen raids across the mountains. By that time, much of the Haemus below Sirmium and the Hungarian mountains lay in the hands of Turkmens, Patzinaks and Muslim Vlachs, with the remaining cities of the Roman Empire hemmed in and subsisting entirely on maritime grain trade - even Constantinople, the Queen of Cities, was reduced to little more than a city-state.

Disputes between Ruthard and Lucius were only exascerbated by Sebastian's arrival. Zealous and reform-minded, Sebastian was chosen over the protests of the German bishops. His attempts to find a detente with the as-yet-uncrowned Emperor quickly broke down when he insisted that the Emperor do his duty for the faith and send men to battle the Turkmens, threatening to leave him uncrowned.

The German bishops, apparently unprompted, returned home and convened a synod at Cologne, where they appointed the German bishop Ruprecht of Worms to be the rightful pontiff. Ruprecht was quickly ensconced at Cologne as Antipope Urban IV. The Germans largely regarded Sebastian as the antipope and disparaged him as a sodomite who had bought his office from the Devil in the name of destroying Christendom. Emperor Ruthard himself was evidently furious at Ruprecht's appointment, but was eventually won over, and the antipope crowned him Emperor later that year, much to the fury of Sebastian. The Pope and Antipope quickly excommunicated each other; Sebastian excommunicated Ruthard in turn; Urban went on to excommunicate the Italo-Norman King Richard of Apulia, a staunch ally of Sebastian.

The dispute saw much of Europe lining up on either side of the dividing line between the two Popes, exascerbated as the Duke of Narbonne, then one William II, sought the hand in marriage of Marie of Provence, with whom he had already sired a bastard child and whose father disapproved of the marriage for fear of giving William reach enough to claim his title and lands within the remnants of the old Arelat. With the other lords of the Provencal world wary of William's ambitions and plotting to raise arms against him, William launched a full-on charm offensive to win Sebastian over to his side, eventually traveling to Rome in a hair shirt and prostrating himself before the Pontiff. His lobbying bore fruit: Sebastian absolved William and Marie of their sins and presided over their marriage.

The decision immediately drew competing lords in: the Count of Provence promptly appealed to Urban IV, who declared the marriage annulled and excommunicated William. William's vassals came down on the side of Sebastian; the King of Francia came down on the side of Urban; the lords of Aquitaine, Vasconia and Navarre supported Sebastian against the Frankish crown. Brushfire wars tore through much of Europe as a fuzzy dividing line between north and south saw lords at all levels cast arms into each other's teeth. Angland, meanwhile, came down on the side of Rome due to the ongoing disputes with Francia over Brittany, while Denmark sided with the Antipope at Cologne.

This wave of conflict - considered the Third Lateran War - raged on much longer than the first two. When Urban IV died, he was succeeded by Antipope Nicholas II, who remained firmly ensconced at Cologne. Sebastian himself was forced to move after imperial supporters in Rome attempted to kidnap him from the Lateran Palace; he took shelter in the Papal enclave in Reggio, given to the Church not long before the conquest of Sicily, and continued to issue excommunications and interdicts. All the while, the King of Hungary and the Dukes of Epirus and Sirmium cast plaintive looks towards Rome as Turkmens continued to raid across the Haemus.

A synod in 1159 intended to try and resolve the dispute failed to reach an agreement, and the divisions between Rome and the Empire dragged on beyond the death of Sebastian in 1162. The German bishops attempted to assert Nicholas as the rightful Pope, and an army marched on Rome to attempt to force the issue, eventually enthroning Nicholas in the Lateran. Sebastian's successor - Gregory VIII - held court at Reggio, pronouncing all the supporters of Nicholas to be under interdict. Soon, though, Nicholas was driven out of the city by a popular uprising - and the commons promptly elected another pontiff in the person of Antipope Lucius III, whom they considered to be "the people's pope." Lucius lasted about a year before noble plotters threw him in prison, and Gregory was welcomed back. The Schism wound onward for more and more years.

This phase of the Lateran Wars was by far the most consequential, notable for the sustained nature of the German Schism. It established the beginnings of a stark divide between two Europes: Northern Europe, with its Germanic languages and culture and its testy relationship with the faith, and Mediterranean Europe, with its Romance languages, Roman-influenced culture and closer relationship with the church. (Often left unsaid in this equation are the third and fourth Europes: Muslim Europe - in the form of al-Andalus and the then-Patzinaks and Turkmens - and Greek Christian Europe, in the form of the Rus' principalities and the Cuman-Kipchak-Greco-Slavic hybrid culture taking root in the nascent Black Olesh of Taurica.)[5]


[1] Exile to the Canaries: The Elba of al-Andalus.
[2] Island of Laurels - they've found Madeira.
[3] Cape Bojador.
[4] Nottingham.
[5] Just moving things along faster here. We'll get to the Kipchaks of the Black Olesh soon enough. :D


SUMMARY:
1133: Pope Leo X dies. He's succeeded by Boniface VIII, who dies of a stroke 45 days later and is succeeded by Boniface IX.
1135: Pope Boniface IX dies and is replaced by Pope Gregory VII.
1136: Pope Gregory VII dies and is replaced by Pope John XXII.
1140: Pope John XXII dies. Pope Urban III succeeds him.
1142: Pope Urban III begins to urge the Germans to send troops to battle marauding Turkmens in Hungary.
1143: The Breton Wars. Francia and Angland wrestle over the inheritance of Brittany by the Earl of Nodingham.
1147: Pope Urban III dies. He is succeeded by Pope Lucius II.
1148: Duke Ruthard of Havelland is named Holy Roman Emperor. He almost immediately clashes with Pope Lucius II, desiring an Adventure in the Baltics.
1149: Pope Lucius II dies and is succeeded by Guido Simonetti as Pope Sebastian I. Sebastian attempts to strong-arm Emperor Ruthard into going to war with the Turks. Relations quickly break down.
1150: The German bishops, annoyed with Sebastian I, elect Antipope Urban IV. Urban crowns Ruthard Emperor. The Third Lateran War and the German Schism begin.
1152: In al-Andalus, hajib Mu'izz ad-Din dies and passes rule to his nephew, Musharraf ad-Din.
1153: Pope Sebastian I agrees to wed Duke William II of Narbonne and Marie of Provence, daughter of William's rival and lord over the south of the Arelat. This brings the Provencal lords and those of Francia into the schism. Europe divides along schismatic lines as everyone takes a side.
1154: The Ifranid Kingdom shatters into competing fiefdoms. The lord of Oran, Atiyya ibn Rezki, having already gobbled up much former al-Mutahirin land and earned the trust of Musharraf ad-Din, begins to push west to press for Fes.
1157: King Sten Thorntongue of Angland dies and is succeeded by his son, Arvid the Black King.
1159: The Al-Mutahirin are reduced to a few mountain redoubts in the Saharan Atlas.
1162: Pope Sebastian I dies and is succeeded by Pope Gregory VIII.
1163: King Geoffrey II of Francia dies and is replaced by King Archambaud, the Count of Blois and Geoffrey's son-in-law.
1063: Atiyya ibn Rezki seizes Fes from the Ifranids. He is acknowledged by Caliph Muhammad III as Saqlabid Andalusia's man on the spot in the Maghreb.
1166: Andalusi settlers begin to set up logging colonies on Jazirat al-Liwaril.
 
Yet another fantastic update, @Planet of Hats! I'm less knowledgeable about the shifts in Europe that you've detailed here, so I'll stick to commenting about Al-Andalus and the Maghreb.


The process of battling the zealots led to a loose alliance between the Saqaliba, the Zenatas of the western Maghreb and the Igiderids of Ifriqiya, drawn together by a common interest in booting the troublesome Sanhaja zealots out of the region.

By 1159, beset by revolts and wars from without, the bulk of the al-Mutahirin were reduced to a handful of mountain redoubts in the Saharan Atlas, with many of the local lords swearing fealty variously to the Umayyads, Igiderids and to Atiyya's nascent Rezkids. It would be the first time that much of the Maghreb would work together with the Caliph at Córdoba, foreshadowing future divisions of Islam:


In a reversal of OTL's later Andalusian history, it's the Malikis of Peninsula that are exerting political and religious influence over the Maghreb while breaking the power of radical rigorists like the Mutahirun (our Almohad analogues have just bit the dust it seems, can't say I'm sad to see them go.) The tidbit about the Khalifa of Qurtuba being mentioned in the khutbahs of the Maghreb is very interesting; the ascendance of the Saqaliba and their pet Caliph also means that the diverging (I've often wondered how a surviving Umayyad Andalusia would impact the development of Islamic theology and fiqh schools - Andalusian Malikis often produced rather different bodies of rulings when compared to their fellow Malikis in the Maghreb and elsewhere even IOTL) Andalusian splinter of Sunni Islam is now a direct competitor to the more traditionalist sphere centered around the Abbasid Khalifa in Baghdad.


For the next several years, peace was the order of the times, with the men of Santiago making no territorial gains but the men of al-Andalus making only one in return: The arrival of Andalusi sailors on Jazirat al-Liwaril in 1166.

Three cheers for the bold explorers of the Caliph! Have the Andalusians noticed alt-Madeira's great suitability for sugarcane, viniculture and fruit crops? It could be another addition to Andalusia's already-impressive dominance of Mediterranean fruit farming.


The time of this settlement marks the first appearances of the ship known as the saqin, or knife ship - an evolution of the typical lateen sail-carrying fishing boats used off the Andalusi coast for ages prior, the early saqin was larger, faster and with a second mast. The ship is apparently so named for its perceived ability to cut through heavy ocean currents and return home from the islands, and it seems to have originated in Denia and Qadis at roughly the same time, not long after the discovery of the Kaledats.

I've been waiting to see your take on the development of Caliphal deep ocean-going ships, Hats. I imagine that the Saqin (inspired name btw -Sakeen is the transliteration I would have used but I guess Andalusian Arabic is wonky) is the ancestor of an alt-caravel ITTL? The Andalusians have to get to Cawania somehow....
 
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In a reversal of OTL's later Andalusian history, it's the Malikis of Peninsula that are exerting political and religious influence over the Maghreb while breaking the power of radical rigorists like the Mutahirun (our Almohad analogues have just bit the dust it seems, can't say I'm sad to see them go) The tidbit about the Khalifa of Qurtuba being mentioned in the khutbahs of the Maghreb is very interesting; the ascendance of the Saqaliba and their pet Caliph also means that the diverging (I've often wondered how a surviving Umayyad Andalausia would impact the development of Islamic theology and fiqh schools - Andalusian Malikis often produced rather different bodies of rulings when compared to their fellow Malikis in the Maghreb and elsewhere even IOTL) Andalusian splinter of Sunni Islam is now a direct competitor to the more traditionalist sphere centered around the Abbasid Khalifa in Baghdad.

Three cheers for the bold explorers of the Caliph! Have the Andalusians noticed alt-Madeira's great suitability for sugarcane, viniculture and fruit crops? It could be another addition to Andalusia's already-impressive dominance of Mediterranean fruit farming.

I've been waiting to see your take on the development of Caliphal deep ocean-going ships, Hats. I imagine that the Saqin (inspired name btw -Sakin is the transliteration I would have used but I guess Andalusian Arabic is wonky) is the ancestor of an alt-caravel ITTL? The Andalusians have to get to Cawania somehow....
The saqin is sort of like a very early caravel. It's not quite robust enough for a prolonged voyage, and the hull shape's not quite right; sailing it past Cape Bojador is probably a bad idea. Right now it's all they need, so building it faster and tougher isn't a priority yet; after all, as far as they know, the only thing south from there is Takrur and Wagadou, and Takrur has no parts and Wagadou is purely inland. But the saqin is great for being a merchant who carries back a bit of cargo. The actual cargo space is limited because the ships were initially designed so that daring merchants could nip out and come back with a small amount of dragon's blood, which would earn them a lot of money. Eventually it'll lead to ships with more of a cargo hold.

They have definitely noticed Madeira's suitability for cash crop farming but it's still early in their exploration of it; only small amounts of that are happening in the *Canaries right now, too.
 
Everything I wanted to say has already been said by others, so I'll just say that I await the fallout of the Lateran Wars greatly.
 

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Two things come to mind: despite the Andalusian armys adaptions to its northern neighbors, the Normans still are more than a match despite the presumably smaller pools of manpower to draw upon.

As well, within 40 years the eastern Empire has gone from looking like it did in 1087 (minus Bulgaria) to aroubd 1453 and the Turkmen are raiding Hungary. You've probably inadvertently speed up and amplified the Hellenization of the invaders in doing so. (There just wasnt that much Seljuqs in general compared to the 18 million of Basil's empire) Bet you in century the military class of raiders are going to essentially become like the Manchu of the Qing by the 1750s- small, disproportionately well armed, and incredibly assimilated.
 
Will the umayyads get one last moment of glory? Also if religion is becoming less zealous a cool way for breaking of the sunni faith is if we get a women in charge or a female caliph (all saudi arabia heads explode) that would be nice to see.
 
Two things come to mind: despite the Andalusian armys adaptions to its northern neighbors, the Normans still are more than a match despite the presumably smaller pools of manpower to draw upon.

As well, within 40 years the eastern Empire has gone from looking like it did in 1087 (minus Bulgaria) to aroubd 1453 and the Turkmen are raiding Hungary. You've probably inadvertently speed up and amplified the Hellenization of the invaders in doing so. (There just wasnt that much Seljuqs in general compared to the 18 million of Basil's empire) Bet you in century the military class of raiders are going to essentially become like the Manchu of the Qing by the 1750s- small, disproportionately well armed, and incredibly assimilated.
I'd say it's highly likely that you'll see more Hellenization in the way the Turks integrate into the former Roman Empire, and that Hellenization will have an impact on how Islam takes shape to a much greater extent than it did with the Ottomans. The most Turkmenized part of the Great Turkmen Empire is Daylam; in Anatolia and the Haemus, there's a much greater prevalence of Greek culture. While converting to Islam is seen among the Greeks as "becoming barbarous" or "becoming a Turkmen," there are some instances of (very small numbers of) Greeks converting opportunistically, and the Turkmens who live in Anatolia especially are beginning to appreciate Greek culture, while the Pechenegs in Bulgaria are beginning to take on more of a Bulgarian feel.

The Turkmens are what Turco-Mongol conquerors often were: A military ruling caste bound to assimilate over time.



The Normans have the advantage of being able to mobilize more of their population directly instead of hiring mercenaries. Al-Andalus is larger than Santiago by a large degree, but the Normans are aggressive, have a well-armed ruling class (one which has become Hispanized to form the Normando group) and a body of peasants they can hand swords to. Still, it's a testament to Normando tenacity and ambition - and Andalusi structural issues - that Santiago can make it a fight.
 
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Turks are getting quite established in the Balkans hmm? The Ukrainian steppe turks/cumans/whatever are likely still nomadic though... Starting in the steppe and moving west-ish towards the adriatic sea, at which point do the Turks become mostly sedentary rather than nomadic?

On another note, how is Poland and Bohemia doing? Hopefully not getting torn apart by Germanics.
 
Turks are getting quite established in the Balkans hmm? The Ukrainian steppe turks/cumans/whatever are likely still nomadic though... Starting in the steppe and moving west-ish towards the adriatic sea, at which point do the Turks become mostly sedentary rather than nomadic?

On another note, how is Poland and Bohemia doing? Hopefully not getting torn apart by Germanics.
Most of the Cumans/Kipchaks/Polovtsi remain nomadic. But a few have taken over the Greek outposts in Chersonesus and the southern Crimea.
 
I expect the teacher will not appreciate the student's answers too much. Even though they are well detailed and structured, his answers are completely off topic ! :p
 
ACT IV Part XIV: A Beautiful Song
"In Europe, matters of the church flared and guttered. The German clergy rallied beneath the banner of their chosen bishop; the Latin churchmen rallied beneath their claimant to be the true voice of God. And they bickered and they bickered, dividing their little corner of the world.

"And in the west of Europe and the place they call the Holy Land, the slaves wielded their captive mouthpieces of their zealous God, and they quarreled and bickered with those who claimed to be the gatekeepers of his message. Purity and impurity meeting in an exquisite collision.

"And they bickered and they bickered, in their irrelevant little corner of the world.

"But those are the matters of Europe. And as we know, the matter of Europe in that age...

"...didn't matter."

The old scholar, Han by blood and wrapped in a traditional yellow robe, bowed his head over a map of the world. It lay across the table before him, a series of dark frames blocking out those parts of the world beyond the scope of the days he spoke of. A continent, flipped upon its back in the style of the Arabs.

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"These parts of the world were long behind the arc of history, for their day," the scholar said. "They brought some innovations and creativity, it is true. But it would be the glorious emperors of Zhongguo who would change the world. Only in the days of the shining empire of the Song could such a change take place.

"Such a perfect confluence of factors was never known in any other realm upon the face of the earth. At their height, the men of the Song produced more than two hundred million pounds of iron every year. They harnessed the power of coal rather than hewing the tree. The nature of money changed from copper coins to spaper slips. Thousands of workers churned out the jiaozi every day to meet the needs of the people. It was scholars of the Song - masters of all disciplines - who fixed the position of the pole star and created the first movable-type printing. It was these great scholars who created the magnetic compass which steered generations of sailors true upon the waves and created the twin-gated lock to steer those vessels along the grand canals of the time.

"In their day, vast irrigation networks crisscrossed the land. Countless craftsmen produced waterwheels and pumps to feed endless mills. Endless artisans produced silken wares which traveled the world. Merchants sailed from the Emperor's ports to lands far to the west, bringing back the treasures of the western world to a place of true civilization. Brilliant thinkers harnessed the fury of gunpowder and began to fill the armies of the Emperor with fire arrows - all the better to scourge the enemies who dwelled in the frigid north.

"All of this could not have been possible if lesser men had reigned, and indeed, there were dark times even as early as the 11th century by the reckoning of the Latins. In those days, the Song addressed the pretender ruler of the northern Liao as equals and paid them tribute each year - their shame for their failure upon the battlefield. They sacrificed the Sixteen Prefectures to them and bowed their heads as cowards - an emperor forced to this humiliation. Unthinkable![1]

"Things changed, with time. As the years turned, the Song rediscovered their capacity for war. In their dealings with the Western Xia, they successfully wrested cities from them along the cycle of Gansu later in that fateful millennium. Many good men went to their deaths, but in those arid battlegrounds they were shaken from their complacency.[2]

"It gave them the steel they needed. As the years turned, new foes and new allies rose in the north. It had long been the way of our people to pit the horse-lords at the throat of their fellows, and in so doing, to secure our land against invaders. So too did wise emperors turn to people who called themselves the Jurchens - but also, in secret, to the Tatar.[3] Casting away the treaty, the Emperors urged the Jurchen to rise against the Khitan... and the Tatar to rise against the Jurchen.[4]

"It was in the 1130s that the Jurchen rose against the Khitan. War ravaged the northern borders, and the Song simply stood piously against the rages of the pretender of the Liao. The Khitans, even with their wealth reft from the hands of less competent emperors, fell before the horsemen of the frozen north like weeds before the shear, and the Song themselves took the field in the south, restoring the Sixteen Prefectures to their rightful place and warring brutally upon the field with weapons of the finest steel. And yet, as the Jurchen smote the Khitan from the field, it appeared that a dangerous foe had been replaced with yet another dangerous foe.

"Until the Tatar struck his blow, even as the Khitan fled into the endless wastes. As the Jurchen and the Tatar battled, the rulers of the Song reft from the Jurchen a stable peace, and secured the north against them for years to come.

"It was into this peace that innovation came. Perhaps the greatest innovation of them all. One which would blossom slowly, but would change the world."

The old scholar turned, slowly, and walked towards a large construct filling out the great chamber. Perhaps the size of a small tent, its perimeter laden with colourful sculptures of dragons and firebirds and magnificent horses and more. And behind it, a complex series of wheels and devices. A primitive thing, laden with iron and steel, far beyond the standards of today.

But for its time, a magnificent thing. A replica of a piece of history.

The old scholar smiled as he gazed upon it. "It is said that the scholar Du Sheng created it in the year 1175, as a bauble to please the infant Shouzong Emperor. The plaything itself was simple, by how we see it. A carousel of colourful creatures, rotating with delight, and a little music to go with them. Certainly an Emperor had seen such things before - colourful things of wonder and majesty. In practical terms, the gift was practically wasteful - a lot of effort to turn a wheel and play a few notes. But the gift of Du Sheng to the Emperor was special for what went on behind the colour and song.

"With his gift, Du Sheng harnessed, for the first time, the power of steam."

As if on cue, a soft jingle of music echoed through the hall. The replica carousel began to turn with a hiss of steam and a creak of pistons. The gentle, soothing song mingled with the clank of the ancient device, so primitive even for its time, so useless for anything more than driving the toy.

The scholar smiled nevertheless. "In his day," he said, "Du Sheng would die unheralded and forgotten. His creation would be little more than a curiosity - another bauble in the Shouzong Emperor's collection. One of a handful to come close to the secret - joining the creations of the Alexandrian, Hero, and his aeolipile, and the organ driven by heated water in the church of Cologne. Indeed, Du Sheng's invention came far behind the first. He would go to his grave never knowing the greatness his invention would lead to.

"It would take years. Decades. Generations. The true utility of that which turned the carousel would not be realized until a day when workers were scarce and the need was immediate."

"But by the hand of Du Sheng, a seed was planted. A seed from which would grow China's future, and the future of all things."[5]

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END OF ACT IV "THE MATTER OF EUROPE"

STAY TUNED FOR
ACT V


"DARKNESS BEFORE THE DAWN"


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[1] The butterflies didn't reach China nearly soon enough to prevent the Chanyuan Treaty.
[2] Rather than a cycle of slow decline and constant military loss, the Song gradually get their groove back and build a marginally competent military. A huge, expensive one, but one that can actually fight.
[3] No, not the Kipchaks or the Bolgars. I'm talking about the Tatar confederation of Mongols, who lived in the southeast.
[4] Xanatos nomad chess in full effect. The Song have a run of somewhat more competent emperors in the late 10th and early 11th centuries.
[5] As some predicted, the Song - with their advanced economy and metallurgy - are the first to discover steam power, and they discover it filthily early. But they have not industrialized, and they probably won't for several decades at a bare minimum. Right now, the steam engine is a minor curiosity created by a brilliant adventurer, but the Song economy is so flush with warm bodies that nobody wants to bother with the startup costs for one of these - they can just throw some labourers at the problem and accomplish it cheaper. So how will China translate this clunky niche invention into something useful? We've got decades and centuries to find out. In the meantime, a more detailed mapdate is on its way, which will address those letter bubbles on the map, as well as some other highlights. Stay tuned.

SUMMARY:
1175: The Chinese scholar Du Sheng gifts the baby Shouzong Emperor with a splendid carousel. It is powered by the world's first working steam engine. Song China invents steam power, but it will be generations before it ever sees practical use.
 
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