Moonlight in a Jar: An Al-Andalus Timeline

I'm not saying that Arabic culture would be thrown in the way side, more like it'll compete in terms of cultural influence in the Islamic World.

Arabic - The center of the Islamic World, with the Arabic language and the holy cities being solidly Arabic. But just because they're the core and center doesn't mean they'll remain pure and unaltered.

Persian - Persian culture and ideas has spread out and influenced the Islamic World though differently ITTL so I'm not sure if it really spread out as in RL, especially from what I remember about after the destruction of the House of Wisdom by the Mongols it took a turn towards the Persian idea of 'just and holy ruler means a just and holy realm' or the like. Said destruction didn't happen ITTL.

Roman - An equally ancient culture and I recall some people saying that the Arabs wanted to emulate before they become more self-assured in themselves. ITTL, since Roman Empire became Islamic and the whole 'Pax Romana is kept via properly appeasing the deity that keeps the Pax Romana' thing meant that a lot of Islamic Romans are going to do the Hajj and spread cultural influence that way.

Maghreb - The only reasons the Maghreb and the Amazigh culture would have a chance to culturally influence the 'core' of the Islamic World is three fold. That the lack of Banu Hilal means that the Maghreb hasn't been as Arabized like in OTL, the Umayyad Caliphs are still around thus giving their culture a sense of prestige and legitimacy, and that their branch of Western Maliki Islam is the one spreading out as much as possible compared to Eastern Sunni and Shia.
Oh sorry I think I misunderstood you then, I thought you mean the Andalusi Arabs would come to see themselves as Berbers.

Persian culture absplutely spread under Islam with basically all muslims east of Iran apart from the nusantara peoples being strongly persianate (muslims in the Indian subcontinent often use Khuda and Allah interchangeably) and likewise westward Turkish culture and Islam is also heavily persianate in nature.

The early Islamic emulation of the Romans comes from the simple fact that the bureaucratic structures of the Persians and Romans were more or less kept intact by the Arabs so you have this odd situation where one half of the empire is governed in the Roman manner and the other in the Persian manner, you have Sassanian style coins being minted in one half of the empire and Roman style ones being minted in the other. The Umayyad powerbase was in Syria so naturally their administration was more Romanesque in function then when the Abbasids took control, with theim being based in former Persian Iraq naturally their admnisitation was more Persianate.

The Maghreb even early on was very much its own thing with them lacking the cultural influences of the Romans and Persians that the Arabs of the Middle Eastand Egypt. I could definitely see a sort of Arab-Amazigh cultural union (though I hate to borrow a term from EUIV 🤣) similar to the Poles and Lithuanians while still retaining distinct identities. However I don't think Malikism would become a sect of Islam similar to the Shi'ites in its relation to the Sunnis for a few reasons I'll name off.

Firstly Malikism as I'm sure you know is a school of Islamic jurisprudence under the umbrella of Sunnism (though even in our world the Malikis are quite distinct in a number of ways mostly to do with Hadith sciences but let's not open that can of worms but I can elaborate on if you like). The Malikis in this timeline simply do not have the fundamental differences in creed and islamic canon that the Sunnis and Shi'ites have in our world. Competition beyween schools of jurisprudence could be fierce and downright rancorous at times but never to the same extent as with the Shi'ites who are branded as outright Kafirs by most major Sunni theologians.
 
It has been a while but there was the whole Schism Fatwa thing that sort of split the Sunni world between two different Caliphs in the timeline.

It's still relatively early but I feel like doctrinal differences will end up forming due to said Caliphs and their courts and supporters pushing for different choices that adds up over time. Like how Western Islam is tolerant of wine while Eastern Islam is tolerant of fermented milk due to horseman Turks influence or something to that nature.

Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox were one faith before politics split it in half then doctrinal developments, among others, resulted in two different faiths. Catholicism maintain its independence while Orthodoxy became caesaropapist, and Saint Christopher the dog headed giant exist in Orthodoxy but not Catholicism, for example.

I'm no expert on Islam though so I really can't go deeper on all that.
 
@Planet of Hats are you planing to release a new update about the modern day Andalus and co? Missed those. Especially since Artemis launched today, it would be interesting to see how space exploration is doing.
I'm turning it over in my head, but every time I try to get going, life intervenes. It's intensely frustrating.

I've got a chapter partly written. Finishing the back half of it keeps running into my professional life demanding a massive time investment right now.
 
It has been a while but there was the whole Schism Fatwa thing that sort of split the Sunni world between two different Caliphs in the timeline.

It's still relatively early but I feel like doctrinal differences will end up forming due to said Caliphs and their courts and supporters pushing for different choices that adds up over time. Like how Western Islam is tolerant of wine while Eastern Islam is tolerant of fermented milk due to horseman Turks influence or something to that nature.

Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox were one faith before politics split it in half then doctrinal developments, among others, resulted in two different faiths. Catholicism maintain its independence while Orthodoxy became caesaropapist, and Saint Christopher the dog headed giant exist in Orthodoxy but not Catholicism, for example.

I'm no expert on Islam though so I really can't go deeper on all that.
A couple things, forSunnis the Caliph is a secular not a spiritual leader hence why save for the rightly guided caliphs their opinions are pretty much never sought on matters of theology. This is one of those key doctrinal differences between Sunnis and Shias becaise Shi'ites believe the office of Caliphate is spiritual and divinely appointed.

Though alcohol is a tricky one since its pretty hard to justify allowing it from the Islamic canon, generally issues of jurisprudence like this don't cause schisms rather issues of creed do.
 
A couple things, forSunnis the Caliph is a secular not a spiritual leader hence why save for the rightly guided caliphs their opinions are pretty much never sought on matters of theology. This is one of those key doctrinal differences between Sunnis and Shias becaise Shi'ites believe the office of Caliphate is spiritual and divinely appointed.

Though alcohol is a tricky one since its pretty hard to justify allowing it from the Islamic canon, generally issues of jurisprudence like this don't cause schisms rather issues of creed do.
Remember that there's a difference between things being allowed and things being done. People don't always follow the rules. In fact, people will often break the rules. Just as people today will pirate music, steal cable, do drugs and drive over the speed limit, so do Andalusis and Berbers in Moonlight-world drink "grape juice," wear silk and leave their veils at home.

When push comes to shove, religious orthodoxy often gives way to pragmatism and just plain desire to have fun. Rigorism often has to be enforced with a heavy hand, which tends to be unpopular.
 
Ah, honestly thought the whole 'Caliphs are secular and spiritual leaders' held true in both Sunni and Shia branches after the Rashidun Caliphate.
 
Got a question what are main like 10 islamic centres? Baghdad is 1. Is seville one? Are cairo and damascus have any importance? Also Iran does Merv and khorosan cities play any part?
 
Ah, honestly thought the whole 'Caliphs are secular and spiritual leaders' held true in both Sunni and Shia branches after the Rashidun Caliphate.

I think that's one of the things that's been butterflied here tbh- in the Arab caliphates, the last caliph to claim any sort of spiritual authority was a disaster tainted by mutazilite inquisition.

On the other hand, partly because of the destruction of the house of wisdom and the creation of the strongly Ali focused spiritual kingship in central Asia from around 1300 onwards, practically every sovereign claimed not only to be a spiritual authority, but a manifestation of Muhammad's essence, the sacred axis of the age, the perfect guide, the lord of planetary conjunctions. A big part of this kingship was belittling the ulemma as too focused on doctrine to appreciate the divine truth, which put the ruler firmly above any religious authority. It is no secret that Akbar claimed that any difference between madhabs was then down to his own opinion, or that both Akbar and Jahangir patronised religious debates where by placing themselves as the judge and adjudicator between religions as diverse as Zoroastrianism and catholicism, they claimed divine (within the established Muslim framework of what divine meant at the time) status.

I think without this you continue the Delhi sultanate style/abbasid mode, where the ulemma are much more powerful and the sultan or caliph is solely the guy that protects their ability to uphold Islam. That seemed to lead to a very quick dynastic turnover otl, which Indian muslim states ittl seem to have avoided. I tried to square that in my own imagination by asserting they combined other legitimising strategies.
 
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I think that's one of the things that's been butterflied here tbh- in the Arab caliphates, the last caliph to claim any sort of spiritual authority was a disaster tainted by mutazilite inquisition.

On the other hand, partly because of the destruction of the house of wisdom and the creation of the strongly Ali focused spiritual kingship in central Asia from around 1300 onwards, practically every sovereign claimed not only to be a spiritual authority, but a manifestation of Muhammad's essence, the sacred axis of the age, the perfect guide, the lord of planetary conjunctions. A big part of this kingship was belittling the ulemma as too focused on doctrine to appreciate the divine truth, which put the ruler firmly above any religious authority. It is no secret that Akbar claimed that any difference between madhabs was then down to his own opinion, or that both Akbar and Jahangir patronised religious debates where by placing themselves as the judge and adjudicator between religions as diverse as Zoroastrianism and catholicism, they claimed divine (within the established Muslim framework of what divine meant at the time) status.

I think without this you continue the Delhi sultanate style/abbasid mode, where the ulemma are much more powerful and the sultan or caliph is solely the guy that protects their ability to uphold Islam. That seemed to lead to a very quick dynastic turnover otl, which Indian muslim states ittl seem to have avoided. I tried to square that in my own imagination by asserting they combined other legitimising strategies.
In fairness to practicality, the real reason Moonlightworld Indian Muslim states might feel weird is authorial walnut-brainedness when it comes to the Subcontinent. Indian history has always been a weakness in my awareness.
 
In fairness to practicality, the real reason Moonlightworld Indian Muslim states might feel weird is authorial walnut-brainedness when it comes to the Subcontinent. Indian history has always been a weakness in my awareness.
That's no biggie- no one can be expected to know everything, and especially with a tl as expansive as this, it's a daunting task. A big reason that I ended up... Putting my own tl, alamgirnama to the side is that I'd made choices about places outside India which I then couldn't really justify and I didn't wanna retcon too much. Kinda sucks cause my plan for India itself went on much farther than where I ended up leaving it. If you're looking for good scholarship on Indian Muslim states, A. Afzar Moin, Rajeev Kinra, Muzaffar Alam, Munis D Faruqui, and Richard Eaton are definitely recommended.

You definitely haven't put anything in any of the updates thats implausible, and personally I can believe it could play out that way, as long as I can add some details to explain why.
 
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That's no biggie- no one can be expected to know everything, and especially with a tl as expansive as this, it's a daunting task. A big reason that I ended up... Putting my own tl, alamgirnama to the side is that I'd made choices about places outside India which I then couldn't really justify and I didn't wanna retcon too much. Kinda sucks cause my plan for India itself went on much farther than where I ended up leaving it

You definitely haven't put anything in any of the updates thats implausible, and personally I can believe it could play out that way, as long as I can add some details to explain why.
That's a tremendous reason I sometimes get mired in massive writer's block. The scope of this thing has grown so vast that it's hard to keep track of it all and hard to gauge plausibility when so many fundamentals have changed.
 
That's a tremendous reason I sometimes get mired in massive writer's block. The scope of this thing has grown so vast that it's hard to keep track of it all and hard to gauge plausibility when so many fundamentals have changed.
Something I like to do when that happens is narrow my focus to writing about something ridiculously specific and niche in my worldbuilding.
 
That's a tremendous reason I sometimes get mired in massive writer's block. The scope of this thing has grown so vast that it's hard to keep track of it all and hard to gauge plausibility when so many fundamentals have changed.
I think it might a be a good idea to focus on the story you want to tell- what really matters to that.

A universal history of every culture, kingdom and faith is.. a lot, and realistically a lot of it is just gonna be tedious for you. Beyond that, I think there're a lot of people on this site with specialised knowledge who could talk about their part of the world for days on end- you're not alone.
 
It would be interesting due to much stronger cavalry tradition (especially due to Kishafa expedition), Andalusians would have something like horse artillery much sooner than OTL. The extensive contact with China with less isolationist policy would also make something like explosive shell being much more common. Man, I feel like there are lots of reason why artillery technology could be much more accelerated.

Really all these stuff are basically what happen if Iberian Union of 16th-17th century last for more than a half century. Without having the need to investing in grand war to dominate entire europe as single dynasty (and thousand miles wide religious schism war), all those gold and silver could be used to invest more in efficient use of arms per soldier. Quality over quantity essentially.

Noteworthy that breechloading musket, rifled musket, and some form of flintlocks were invented as early as 16th century. Oh and the use of optic as artillery targeting system. I could recall something like revolver chamber for musket too.

Maybe some kind of clockwork punk also? hehe.

Edit: And of course air rifle! With the early introduction of steam engine, and its use as water pump, it might a feasible for much efficient air pump being adopted to solve logistic issue of OTL air rifle?

Edit2: I don't see why Andalusians could not also adopt something like Ga Pa formation used by Swedish army under Gustavus Adolphus. The ancient Arab tradition of Mubarizun, cultural Ghazi raids, Berber cavalry would warrant more agressive and manuver style warfare more.

Edit3: Assuming those above invention happen much sooner, perhaps Open-order formation would also be more adopted than tight formation army.
 
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ACT IX Part XIX: The Steam Engine
Excerpt: The Breath of the World: Steam, Industry and Climate Catastrophe - Mahmud Mbakari, Red Hill Libropress, AD 2015


The changes that took place in the Andalusian world in the late 1500s were rapid and dramatic, no less so because they came amidst a period of chaos. Indeed, the political and social turmoil of the time was vital: It set the table for change to happen.

On paper, the Mahdi Army rampaging across the Maghreb was unlikely to mount a serious bid to overthrow the government in Isbili: The advent of firearms made the days of nomadic Berbers riding out of the Atlas Mountains and toppling the local ruler a thing of the past. They did, however, prove a constant irritant to farmers and tradesmen in Maghrebi coastal cities, requiring annual campaigns in the mountains to try and bring the stubborn Fakhreddin to heel. The highly mobile Mahdists had a tendency to fade into the desert and engage only on their own terms, resulting in years of frustration for Hajib Uthman and the newly-constituted Majlis.

Compounding problems in the Maghreb were the emergence of brushfire rebellions in the Christian-predominated north. As with the earliest years of Muslim presence in the Iberian Peninsula, the Cantabrian Mountains remained stubbornly difficult to police. It's little surprise that rebellion flourished there.

While so-called Hidden King pretenders were common, the rebellion of the so-called King Diego proved to be one of the most prominent. Declaring himself the rightful king of the north, the so-called Diego - his real origins are obscure - emerged in the city of Oviedo and began delivering speeches calling for a Reconquista in the south. He soon amassed an army, killing most of the Oviedo garrison and pushing out into villages in the countryside. The rebels held out against smaller-scale police actions before managing a deadly raid on Leon, failing to take the city but capturing and murdering several prominent Asmarid officials, including the city's chief imam. The rebels made a point of targeting Mozarabic Christians as well, viewing them as traitors to the Catholic Church and adopters of Andalusian culture and language.

Uthman endeavoured to respond in force, dispatching the Black Guard north to root out Diego and his men. Sympathizers in northern towns and villages were rounded up - some of them indiscriminately - and troops marched into the mountains to try and catch up to the wily rebels. Terrain worked against Asmarid control: Diego managed to hold out until 1556 before being shot at the Battle of the Iguanzo, where the Black Guard managed to catch Diego and his most elite men in a valley town southeast of Oviedo and bring them to battle in earnest. Without the so-called Hidden King to provide a figurehead, the rebellion's leadership broke down, and much of the rebel army melted back into the mountains, allowing Uthman to restore control in the north - albeit not without protests and agitation from the more radical Catholics in the region.

The onset of the Wars of the Red Comet in the Holy Roman Empire didn't help matters. Officially, Uthman viewed the civil war over the Holy Roman Empire's succession as a matter for the Christians to deal with. Unofficially, the Asmarids supported the Papal line, even encouraging groups of mercenaries to sell their services to pro-Papal forces. Asmarid trade ships delivered weapons into the hands of Romanian and Italian forces via their trading post in Amalfi, while Navarrese mercenaries fought for the Swabian League, the pro-Papal faction that coalesced around a reluctant Gerhard von Geroldseck-Zurich. Uthman insisted that he washed his hands of these conflicts from the standpoint of the Asmarid crown. This didn't forestall French and Anglish privateers from periodically attacking Asmarid merchantmen at sea during this period, requiring new investment in ships.

These conflicts came against a backdrop of movement of men to the Gharb al-Aqsa. Large numbers of young men and their families moved overseas in the mid-to-late 1500s, many of them seeking to take advantage of the discovery of gold in Tirunah. As the Iberian peninsula filled up and the population of the Maghreb grew, sons further down the inheritance ladder often sought to take their chances on adventurism in the west rather than settling for their slice of an increasingly subdivided land holding. While these trends boded well for colonial affairs on the western continent, they came together with everything else to generate periodic manpower shortages in the core Asmarid realm - at a time when the realm needed both weapons and ships.

In some areas, local landholders filled their labour needs by buying in slaves from the Sudan. But outside of the labour-intensive plantation economy in places like the Mufajias, hiring slaves to do grunt work was rarely popular, and Asmarid slaveowners remained far more likely to purchase female slaves or eunuchs for more domestic duties.

The Asmarid realm, in other words, was primed for an external factor to put a dent in its labour woes. But it was not the first country outside of China to adopt the steam engine wholesale.

Aside from the brief dalliance of the Lavo Kingdom in steam technology, the first non-Chinese adopter of steam was the Janggala Kingdom. Steam power there was first introduced in 1555, brought in by Chinese labourers working in the coal-mining regions of southern Sumatra. The engines were used mainly to drive pumps to clear water our of mines in the river-crossed region. Transmission of the technology from China to the Janggalas was little surprise: The two powers were geographically close, bound together by trade and politics, occasionally opposed over issues like control of trade through Malacca and influence in the Ma-i Archipelago, and well positioned to pick up best practices from one another through the simple movement of people and bodies between realms.

In the middle of it all was the Asmarid colony at Mubaraka.[1] The island had come to be used mainly as a plantation hub and occasional copper mine, and while not one of the more populous Andalusian holdings, its importance as a hub of cultural interchange can't be overstated. Andalusian merchants operating from the island came into regular contact with Chinese and Nusantaran merchantmen, not only trading for unique goods but learning about new technologies and naturalistic advancements pioneered in the Great Wu realm. It served as a major conduit for Sinophiles to feed knowledge back to their homeland.

Such was the case with steam. The path the technology took to Andalusia came through the cultural transmission line with a pivot point in Mubaraka.

The early years of the Wars of the Red Comet saw the Asmarids eager to stay out of the conflict, preferring to focus on chasing down the Mahdi Army. By 1561, however, European powers beyond the catchment area of the Holy Roman throne were being drawn into the war. A market for Andalusian arms rapidly developed, with Amalfi rounding into a convenient transfer point for jazails and other weapons to filter into the hands of Romanian, Italian and southern German armies. While blackpowder weapons were no stranger to Christendom at this point, weapons manufactured in the Islamic sphere were of significantly higher quality, both in terms of metallurgy and expertise of manufacture.

The market for Andalusian guns combined with the increase in overseas economic activity to create new demand for both guns and ships. Even as demand for high-quality metal rose, so too did demand for wood - at a time when forestry was already strained. The use of coal in blast furnaces rapidly increased during the mid-1500s as Andalusian smiths and builders looked for alternatives that would get around the increasing price of timber. With rising output of metal came an increase in quality metallurgy and a spiking demand for not only guns, but common implements like ploughs and farming tools.

It is from this confluence of demand factors - rising wood prices, spiking demand for quality metal goods, increased use of coal, and shortages in manpower - that the conditions that made alternatives attractive.


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AD 1566
RUSADDIR[2], MAGHREB, ASMARID EMPIRE


"It's astonishing that you can do this without a river or a horse," marvelled the buyer as he watched the bellows churn away. Without so much as a man to operate it, the device churned and trundled on a regular pace, breathing air into the smith's forge. The sound mingled with the steady clink of the smith's hammer against glowing iron, the heat of it all mingling with the sweat and fire of the forge.

Hands on his hips, Al-Zanqi ibn Hurayth ar-Rammah smiled behind his coarse black beard. "It is astonishing, isn't it? They use these all the time in the land of Sin. It all happens because of water steaming off when you heat it."

"In Sin? You've been there?"

"Oh yes. I worked for a trader out of Mubaraka. We saw many machines like this. Learned how they work, even." Ar-Rammah moved around the rumbling machine, gesturing to it with a broad, callused hand. "It's a special kind of steel. The way the water burns off, it can just destroy normal steel. You need the kind of steel they make the big tanins out of."

The buyer's eyebrows rose with astonishment. "I'd heard about the amazing things that happen in Sin, but I've never seen anything like this. To think that steam could do this...." He looked over with a quick blink. "It won't get me worse weapons, will it?"

"Of course not. Your men will have the most quality jazails dinars can buy," assured the blacksmith.

Again the buyer looked back towards the forge, where work continued unabated. The scent of burning coal tinged their nostrils, the haze of it drawing sweat. Soon enough, though, he nodded to the ruddy-faced blacksmith. "Let me see the merchandise," he urged.

A grinning Ar-Rammah reached for one of his jazails.

Outside, puffs of white smoke rose above the chimney of the workshop, the telltale traceries of steam making their way into the skies above the Asmarid Empire for the first time. As they'd been doing ever since Ar-Rammah set up the new tool he'd brought back from Mubaraka, heads turned with interest.[4]

Word spread. Fast.

It would not take long before more chimneys would rise above Rusaddir. Then Oujda. Then beyond.


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END OF ACT IX "A STORY WRITTEN IN BLACKPOWDER"

WE TURN THE PAGE
THE WORLD CHANGES
THE GEARS OF PROGRESS TURN IN ACT X


"THE BREATH OF THE WORLD"
DAWN OF THE AGE OF INDUSTRY


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AD 2022
THE SKIES OVER THE ATLAS OCEAN


"Releasing payload now," called the copilot.

Whisps of over-ocean cloud rippled past the six-engined aircraft as it cruised into the thick of it. Responding smartly to the crew's commands, hatches along the craft's wings and belly slid open. A silvery hail of particles began to stream free, forming a glittering fan behind the white craft as it plunged deeper into the cloud.

That's right. Eat your breakfast, cloud. The thought was silly, but Captain Karima Alasula couldn't help but think it every time. The naturialism behind it all was obvious enough by now - by seeding maritime clouds like this with just the right mixture of particles and substances, it would ever so slightly lighten the albedo of the planet, bouncing back a little more sunlight and allowing the Earth to heal. But her mind still translated it as feeding the clouds breakfast - fattening them up and letting them float along like big puffy balloons.

She tapped the controls a little. The massive aircraft - a specialized blended-wing-body transport, cruising on the power of ultra-efficient fuel cells driving six electric hyper engines banked into the wings - shifted its trajectory subtly to plot its course through the thickest and widest part of the cloud. The longer their joint mission could spend in the cloud, the better off they'd be.

The data bore it out. Nearly five hundred years of pumping excess pollution into the air had taken their toll on the world. Her effort - well, the effort she was part of - wasn't fixing it singlehandedly, but they were helping. Sea levels had decreased over the past fifty years, and cloud seeding had played its part.

To her right, her copilot glanced over with a mellow smile, brushing an errant lock of blonde hair back behind the visor of her helmet. "All going according to plan," Lilja commented in her typical lightly-lilting Pellandish accent.[3] "This cloud's large enough to take the entire payload."

"I'm sure everyone down there will appreciate that." Leaving her hand on the illuminated control board, Karima eased back in the padded command seat, smiling a little in her own right. Faint green airspeed and altitude indicators shimmered in the aircraft's viewscreen, overlaid virtually over the otherwise white-and-grey billow of the sea cloud they were flying through.

Lilja checked her controls one more time before sighing wistfully, also leaving her hand on the panel. "You wonder sometimes if anyone realized back in the day that this would happen. That there'd be a global price for progress."

"There's one for everything, right," Karima conceded. "At least we can fix it."

"Yeah... I suppose that's true."

Far below, a ground-effect vehicle cutting across the ocean towards the Sea of Pearls. Travelers gazed up at the distant passage of the cloud-seeding aircraft and the distinctive shimmering spray that faded into the cloudbank itself, the eddies and currents of its passage visible even from below.

Their wonder was all too dull. Everyone had seen joint climate-preservation flights before. They would again.


[1] Palawan.
[2] Melilla.
[3] Pelland is a country in Alasca. The accents here are a variant on something Scandinavian.
[4] While steam is being picked up here, it's coming in at a time when the general level of technology is still evolving. The world isn't quite in the mid-1700s on every front, so there's a good chance the next few decades will end up looking more steampunk.

SUMMARY:
1555:
Workers in the Janggala Kingdom begin using a Chinese steam engine to pump water out of coal mines in southern Sumatra. Nusantara becomes the world's second scale adopter of the steam engine.
1566: Al-Zanqi ibn Hurayth ar-Rammah, a blacksmith and trader from the Maghreb, sets up a steam engine to power a bellows at his forge in Rusaddir. Lower-pressure steam engines enter use in the Asmarid Empire - the third power in the world to begin adopting the steam engine.
 
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Now the only way to surprass that is if some Andalusians invent Microscope (and Microbiology), mechanical computer befitting clockwork punk and some crazy advances in mathematic, or modern Chemistry of OTL 18th century (instead of Alchemy).
 
Now the only way to surprass that is if some Andalusians invent Microscope (and Microbiology), mechanical computer befitting clockwork punk and some crazy advances in mathematic, or modern Chemistry of OTL 18th century (instead of Alchemy).
We'd probably get mechanical calculators at least and maybe we'd get mechanical computers before the electronic computers we know and love.
 
We'd probably get mechanical calculators at least and maybe we'd get mechanical computers before the electronic computers we know and love.
I still can't believe at how complex, yet incredibly specialized Antikythera Mechanism basically is. Yet, ancient Greeks can do it.
Or Su Song's Cosmic Engine, Al-Jazari's Castle (Hydropowered) Clock, The Astratrium and so on.

But really I was wondering if our dear Andalusians here could go beyond those. An actual programmable, general-purpose mechanical computer. Yes I'm talking about that Analytical Engine, or something close to it.


But well, even if we only get mechanical calculators, something like early modern mortars would started to act more like their 19th century counterpart. Or possibly beyond that. Imagine when you aiming something that doesn't largely based on guesswork?

Yet if Andalusians could do it, I don't think even inventing Star Fort would stop their advance.

@Planet of Hats would you mind if you provide some info about Andalusian artillery use (or military engineers/sappers)?

My feeling is too damn strong that Andalusians would bypass most of the obstacle that plagued early modern use of cannons.
 
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Steam power is rapidly approaching al-Andalus. They have the components, the technological know-how, and the economic drive to create a steam engine. Be warned, for they will be the ones that will usher a new age into the world.

The onset of the Wars of the Red Comet in the Holy Roman Empire didn't help matters. Officially, Uthman viewed the civil war over the Holy Roman Empire's succession as a matter for the Christians to deal with. Unofficially, the Asmarids supported the Papal line, even encouraging groups of mercenaries to sell their services to pro-Papal forces. Asmarid trade ships delivered weapons into the hands of Romanian and Italian forces via their trading post in Amalfi, while Navarrese mercenaries fought for the Swabian League, the pro-Papal faction that coalesced around a reluctant Gerhard von Geroldseck-Zurich. Uthman insisted that he washed his hands of these conflicts from the standpoint of the Asmarid crown. This didn't forestall French and Anglish privateers from periodically attacking Asmarid merchantmen at sea during this period, requiring new investment in ships.
Honestly, this name is so cool compared to what we have OTL. The Italian Wars? The 30 Years War? How about a conflict centered around a red comet of doom?

It would not take long before more chimneys would rise above Rusaddir. Then Oujda. Then beyond.
One thing that the Asmarids can benefit from the Wu is the Bessemer process, as it's very likely they would've mastered the techniques from the Song dynasty to the point where they can manufacture high-quality steel at ridiculous quantities.

Combined with the steam engine, the Asmarids could be sitting on a massive blackpowder weapons stockpile within decades.

[4] While steam is being picked up here, it's coming in at a time when the general level of technology is still evolving. The world isn't quite in the mid-1700s on every front, so there's a good chance the next few decades will end up looking more steampunk.
It would be a weird thing to see. A Medieval/Renaissance-like world, only to be interrupted by steam engines and smokestacks. I'd honestly dig it.

The data bore it out. Nearly five hundred years of pumping excess pollution into the air had taken their toll on the world. Her effort - well, the effort she was part of - wasn't fixing it singlehandedly, but they were helping. Sea levels had decreased over the past fifty years, and cloud seeding had played its part.
One of the few downsides of an earlier Industrial Revolution. If global warming was impossible to avoid OTL, then it's going to be rampant ITTL.

Now the only way to surprass that is if some Andalusians invent Microscope (and Microbiology), mechanical computer befitting clockwork punk and some crazy advances in mathematic, or modern Chemistry of OTL 18th century (instead of Alchemy).
Microscopes are certainly within the cards, as are chemistry and the modern scientific method. However, mechanical computers are probably not realistic for this time period, even with greater knowledge of automatons compared to OTL. A programmable machine was not common during the Islamic Golden Age and it might not even be common ITTL (as the machines were novelties instead of being practical). It will take something like a programmable loom before computers can really take off.
 
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