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They like it because it's a key stronghold for their particular cultural group.Parochial reasons?
They like it because it's a key stronghold for their particular cultural group.Parochial reasons?
They like it because it's a key stronghold for their particular cultural group.
We don't have that level of detail, but part of it seems to be that it's the port closest to the Balearic Islands, which it held control over during the taifa period. The site's fairly defensible, with a big castle on a crag overlooking the sea. It was also a Roman naval base centuries before.Do we know why Denia in particular became a key stronghold instead of other cities?
Huh, interesting.Male Saqaliba weren't the only ones purchased. Al-Andalus also did a brisk trade in female Saqaliba. While male slaves were generally manumitted into service, females tended to be trained as concubines, or sometimes manumitted as wives for high-ranking warriors. However, it's evident that they, too, received training in a number of disciplines, including music and theology. This training would result in a number of women of Siqlabi origin wielding quiet influence in Andalusian statecraft, even as female slaves came to heavily outnumber males in most households
Huh, interesting.
Ottoman Harems politics 500 years early?
They technically are Muladies but form their own very prominent subclade.Huh, interesting.
Ottoman Harems politics 500 years early?
Also: since the majority of the Slavs imported aren't castrated, they would form ethnic islands the longer this goes on right? ... But are their descendants treated as Muwalladun (native Iberian Muslims) or their own ethnie?
I've got a long Francia update coming soon. We'll end the chapter on the HRE and Italy.Random question to the saqaliba marry the female umayyads into there groups now as it would be prestigious and to keep a strong link between the umayyad and slave soldiers.
What influence do the female umayyad will?
Another question with some slaves being brought as adults are we getting a more hellenistic culture mixed in. So are the umayyads now using flags and greek style warfare, also art painting them people.
Also with byzantine in chaos could we get a crafty greek selling his knowledge on greek fire?
Its nice to see woman advancing if albeit just foreign woman.
Will there be france update last time important stuff was happening and its been years in timline since we known whats happened.
Harem politics always existed just not on the ottoman level, the umayyads (pre fitna) were very liberal when it came to politics and woman. Woman had alot of power under umayyads before the fitna. The abbasids changed it so woman were less powerful as they were more conservative.
Some words, I suspect, will creep into the lexicon, but what's really influencing things here is that many of the Saqaliba are purchased as boys and educated at a time when their minds are more malleable and prone to picking up the culture they're steeped in as they grow up. Some Slavicisms are creeping in via Saqaliba who arrive as teens, or as adult women; as mentioned in a previous post, there's a quiet tradition of egg-decorating that persists through the 11th and 12th centuries. You'll get things like this charming little gift-shop special:Interesting. So the education of the Saqbila is that of a military college, with compulsory minors in theology, law, and liberal arts. Reminds me a bit of some of the more cultured shoguns of Japan, though the latter probably would have very weird ideas about Andalusian society, if both sides ever meet.
On another note, I find it a bit sad that the Slavs among the Saqaliba would eventually drop their culture to the greater social fabric of al-Andalus, though I know why (cultural salad bowls are a soft pleasure of mine). Do any words or phrases from the Baltic tribes or the Kievan Rus manage to filter into the common tongue?
Also, Sviatoslav = Safyatuslaf. It sounds so odd, yet so... Andalusian. So fitting.
I have one of those too, from Spain but is in ceramic not silver...Some words, I suspect, will creep into the lexicon, but what's really influencing things here is that many of the Saqaliba are purchased as boys and educated at a time when their minds are more malleable and prone to picking up the culture they're steeped in as they grow up. Some Slavicisms are creeping in via Saqaliba who arrive as teens, or as adult women; as mentioned in a previous post, there's a quiet tradition of egg-decorating that persists through the 11th and 12th centuries. You'll get things like this charming little gift-shop special:
SUMMARY:
1049: William VI, Duke of Aquitaine and Prince of Navarre, divorces Almodis of Toulouse after years of trying for an heir and failing. He weds Ermengarde of Foix, who proceeds to fill his life with children.
1055: King Fulk I of Francia sets up his son, Fulk II, as his co-ruler.
1056: Queen Sancha of Navarre dies. William VI of Aquitaine is crowned King William I of Navarre.
1061: William I of Navarre goes to war for the County of Blois. King Fulk I responds hotly, leading to war.
1062: William IV inherits the County of Toulouse from his father, Pons.
1064: William IV, Count of Toulouse, receives the County of Rouergue through inheritance from his aunt.
1065: The Battle of Bourges. Navarre scores a Pyrrhic victory over Francia in the war for Blois, but King William I is wounded in the leg. He dies of his infection later that year. His realm is split between his sons: William II of Navarre, Geoffrey of Aquitaine and Odo of Gascony, though Odo is quickly repudiated.
1067: King Fulk I of Francia dies and passes the reins to Fulk II.
1073: William IV, Count of Toulouse, comes to rule Narbonne through his marriage to Viscountess Douce. A local alliance against him rapidly coalesces.
1074: King Fulk II of Francia dies of dysentery. The title passes to his brother, King Geoffrey the Good, who proves to be an anemic king militarily, but one well-liked by his vassals and by the learned and literate class.
1077: Seizing Beziers and Agde from the Count of Carcassonne, William IV brings his local rivals to terms. Beziers and Agde are added to William's personal fisc. Later that year, with consent of the Church, William proclaims himself Duke of Narbonne.
1081: Raimond, son of Duke William the Cruel of Narbonne, is born.
hmm, Southern France warring between themselves mean no French help past the Pyrenees no?As affairs unfolded in the north, William bided his time, raising his son and keeping a hungry eye on the lands south of the Durance.[4]
It sure didn't. The havoc created in Francia by Hugh Capet's failure to launch resulted in Ethelred the Unready being days late to a meeting in Normandy to try and bargain away the Normans' granting the Danish the right to launch raids on England out of Norman ports. OTL, he did manage to buy a reprieve; ITTL, he mostly just annoyed the Normans, and the Danes kept on raiding. Things went poorly enough that Sweyn Forkbeard managed to take England for the Danes. The realm was divided upon his death and England is currently ruled from the Danelaw by a line of Anglo-Danish kings beginning with Sweyn's son, Cnut the Rich. England is much more plugged into the Scandinavian world right now than it is to the continent.I wanna type out a long opinion piece and give my thoughts on what may happen next... but I know absolutely nothing about medieval European politics.
Um... think of something, think of something... did the Norman conquest of England went like OTL?
Oh, warring in the south of France isn't just this TL; it was OTL, too. All of France in this time period was basically a hellscape of feudal infighting, but those who say "oc" rather than "oïl" or "si" were among the worst offenders, with petty nobles going for each other's throats and bickering over land claims and claiming land they could never control. The difference here is that an avaricious Count of Toulouse is being a little more successful in carving out a more significant realm for himself, and he has ambitions for more. William the Cruel seems to be trying to bring some order to at least his little slice of the chaos. OTL, that never really happened; even by the time of the Albigensian Crusade, the Languedoc was a hilarious scattershot of little fiefdoms and de jure vassals who nevertheless acted independently, most of them nominally bending the knee to Paris but operating effectively as independent statelets.hmm, Southern France warring between themselves mean no French help past the Pyrenees no?
I wonder if the Andalusians can reclaim the Marca Hispanica.
The Umayyad settlements in Provence got trashed roughly on schedule; the descendants of William the Liberator currently rule in Provence and the Arelat.Poor william VI, thought he was leading to a independent southern france. At this point the marches are now fucked? North in turmoil, constant raids from the south. No french help and an andalusia which hasn't gone on a military adventure for a while might smell the blood in the water. Have the umayyad settlements in southern france been destroyed yet?
SUMMARY:
1047: Pope Clement III becomes Pope. His enemies allege that he is the son of the Devil, and he's believed to have had at least five bastards. His ill reputation sinks the reputation of the Popes in the eyes of many non-German clergy.
1054: Pope Clement III is deposed by Holy Roman Emperor Otto IV and replaced by his court chaplain.
1055: Holy Roman Emperor Otto IV dies. The dukes of the Empire elect Hermann of Swabia to replace him.
1067: The Adventure of Obotritia is completed, with the Obotrites being subordinated into the new Counties of Schwerin and Reidegost.
1083: In defiance of the boy Emperor Hermann II, reformist cardinals elect the Cluniac reformer, Amalric of Cambrai. He becomes Pope Urban II. Urban repudiates the right of the Holy Roman Emperor to choose the Pope; the regency council of Hermann declares Urban a pretender. The German bishops elect an antipope, John XXI.
1084: A Holy Roman army seeking to relieve Rome is intercepted by an army of Papally-contracted Norman mercenaries, supported by the forces of the Margrave of Tuscany. The German force is defeated, and the crisis over Papal-Imperial supremacy breaks down into an outright rebellion across much of Italy. From outside the realm, Duke William of Narbonne considers entering the war to pursue his interests in Provence, lest he be beaten there by Hermann. The Lateran Wars begin.