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Louyan

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Clandango said:
Well, this is going to complicate the Soviets and Americans partitioning Korea.
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There won't be any Korea (or Soviets, or Americans) :p. Or a state resembling China. Though there is a very good chance of unified state -or a line of them- being there for much of history, the geographical reasons that made China (more) possible, if nothing else, have been amblified.
 
Clandango

Clandango

Louyan said:
There won't be any Korea (or Soviets, or Americans) :p. Or a state resembling China. There is a very good chance of unified state -or a line of them- being there for much of history, the geographical reasons that made China (more) possible, if nothing else, have been amblified.
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Really? The thought never occurred to me.
 
Leon Thotsky

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mythmonster2

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These are pretty much the only maps I've ever made, and I made them way back in 2014. Made them for my D&D game, the world of Noduniya. First map is physical, second is political.
  • Dark teal: Subarctic (coniferous forests being common)
  • Sky blue: Mountains
  • Green: Humid continental (mostly deciduous forests)
  • Purple: Mediterranean
  • Orange-ish: Steppe
  • Dark Brown: Tropical Savannah
  • Yellow-green: Humid subtropical
  • Brown: Semi-arid
  • Tan: Desert
  • Dark Green: Tropical
  • The green nation in the east is named Areinte, and it was where the elves first landed in Menam. It was originally a colony of the elven Empire in the east continent and technically still is, but it’s de facto independent and everyone treats it as such. Most of the population is wild elves, but the higher classes tend to be high elves and there is a fair bit of discrimination. Its capital is the elves first city in Menam and is named Corellsurtur
  • To its west are the Gwilti people. They’re basically northern barbarians who have begun to move towards a sedentary lifestyle. The grey basically means there’s too many minor states for any of them to be particularly important.
  • The purple nation is the Kechas Empire, and it dominates the continent. From its capital of Kechas, it grew over the period of 200 years to its current size. The emperor and his dynasty are humans, but the Empire has a policy of racial tolerance. It is mostly stable, with the biggest threat being from barbarian incursions, and even those are usually pushed back easily. Gogad, in the northwest, is a frontier city famed for its huge walls. Satuli, on the northern coast of the sea, surpasses even Kechas in trade importance in the Empire
  • However, the gold nation, Ligua, named after its capital, surpasses even that. It has the strongest navy by far on the continent, and maintains trade posts across the continent. It was a Liguan explorer who discovered the third continent about 40 years ago.
  • The brown country is the goblinoid nation of Gur-Elura. Goblinoids of all kinds call it home, though there are less hobgoblins, and orcs make up a sizable minority. It is a decentralized nation, and most of the power resides with feudal lords, rather than with the king. Its capital is Handemuno.
  • In red are the Harramite dwarves, who live deep in the Ramas mountains. It’s not quite right to have them as a single color, since most of the dwarven strongholds are city-states, with the northern Maraghul and the southern Kaharad being the two most prominent ones.
  • The blue nation on the islands to the west is the mage-run country of Indragia, named after its capital. Indragia is famed worldwide as the place to go for anything magical. Indragia is also home to the famous Indragia College of Magic, where those with the skill can learn to become the best mages on the planet.
  • Launa, the maroon nation, is the closest nation from across the White Waste. Once, the Launi people had a great empire, before the Gods’ War created the White Waste, utterly destroying the nation and almost the people, too. Because of this, the nation is unique in opposing the gods, banning all worship inside its borders. Its capital is Tahidil.
  • The gray area here signifies the many smaller states that exist on the southern half of the continent. None of them are particularly important, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
  • There is not much special about the orange nation of Tijarat, save that its capital of Iyibir is a frequent stop to more southern ports and the center of trade for caravans that travel the White Waste to deal with the nomads who still live there.
  • The dark green nation is the Chalahne Empire, the strongest power on this side of the White Waste. From its capital of Hanabai, the Emperor makes decisions that impact the entire area.
  • Finally, the baby blue nation of Sosirin was originally one of the minor states fighting for power, until the third continent was discovered. Now in an advantageous position, its capital of Khisae is where almost all people setting out for the continent depart from.
The Impande Empire is the land of the elves, and one of the major world powers. It has stood for millenia, though it has changed subtly over those many years. Under the past Emperor’s rule, it was a guiding force for all other races and was mostly peaceful, if overbearing. However, with his death 50 years ago and the ascension of a new emperor, it has taken a turn towards hostility against the “lesser races”, as the new Emperor terms them. Government-wise, it is very reminiscent of the Chinese bureaucracy of the Ming dynasty. Muntavre is its capital and home of the Emperor, while Bárbaporte on the west coast is its main link to Menam and Oporsul on the south coast its link to the new continent.

To the east are the three great hordes, as they are called. Though they are called that, they are usually peaceful, though there are certainly times when they conflict with the elves and each other. The hordes are, in turn, composed of clans and families with great power. Only rarely does each horde band together under one leader, and never have the three united except to fight off elven invaders. Structurally, they’re somewhat like the Native Americans of the Great Plains.

The southernmost horde is the Talbangan Horde, and it is perhaps the most hostile of the three. Primarily composed of centaurs,the Talbangan are a people without mercy to the weak and a firm belief in rule by the strong. Outsiders are rarely welcome, and if you want shelter, you better have something to give. Even the place where the clan heads meet, called Kuchtei, reflects their harshness, by being on the top of a steep cliff in the middle of a harsh desert, ensuring clan heads are worthy to be leaders.

In the north is that Kaskaz Horde, mostly made up of orcs. The Kaskaz are easily the most decentralized of the three, and you can count the number of times they’ve had a single leader on one hand. However, what the Kaskaz are known most for by outsiders is the fact that they sing prior to battle and even during. It is said a singing Kaskaz orc will be one of the most beautiful things you will hear, if also the last. They have no organized meeting place.

The Naiura Horde lies inbetween these two, and their population reflects this, being a mix of orcs, centaurs, and even having some elves in their numbers. They are the most like other countries, usually having no more than four major leaders and often uniting behind one. Their capital of Getaba, where the horde first formed, is actually a permanent city, the only one of the hordes.

Finally, in the far east, there are the Oorun Islands. Unlike the rest of the continent, these islands are mostly populated by humans, although they are unlike other humans by having pure black skin. Another interesting and yet unexplained fact is that they claim to come from across the eastern seas, despite the fact that no modern sailor has ever been able to find any evidence of land to the east. The government is that of a loose federation, with islands having a great deal of freedom.

The largest island, Ewole, is also the least populated. In fact, it is thought to have no inhabitants at all. All inhabitants of the Oorun Islands are taught to stay away from Ewole, though they do not tell foreigners why. Brave explorers who go onto the island never report anything strange, unless they make the foolish decision of sleeping on the island. The lucky ones report ghostly voices in the night and an overwhelming urge to leave as soon as possible. The unlucky ones are never heard from.

To the east of Ewole are two islands collectively named Ohunto. It is known throughout the world that if one wishes to learn arcane magic, you go to the Indragia College of Magic. Any decent wizard has gone there at least once, and even people with inborn magic go to focus their power there. However, if you desire stranger magic, you go to Ohunto. For whatever reason, the two islands are a nexus for all sorts of powers most people have never heard of. Incarnum users, warlocks, binders, and more are all commonplace. The capital of Eminibi truly is a wondrous place to go, where there are sights to be seen that no other place in the world can offer.

The archipelago to the southwest of Ewole is called Ekbusu. They are settled, but mostly unimportant, most of them simply surviving on trade, fishing, or agriculture. Once, the great island city of Oiribi was a port to rival any other, whose bazaar carried any item your heart desired, for the right price. Then, the volcano that made up the center of the island suddenly erupted with such force that most of the island sunk into the sea, leaving but a ring of land around what was once the greatest city of the east. The eruption began the Year of Ash, when farms as far away as Menam withered and failed.

Finally, there are three islands to the northeast of Ewole, named Agiyegba. If you were to ask any ordinary person what they knew about that place, they would answer you with two words: dragon riders. For whatever reason, the islands are a very popular place with dragons of all kinds, although gold and red dragons are the most common. The inhabitants of Agiyegba form bonds with these dragons, who in turn become partners with the riders. Nobody knows what exactly the dragons gain from this, and it is likely they will be the last ones to tell. As a sword is not the most helpful weapon when on the back of a dragon 200 feet in the air, the islands also have a strong magical tradition.
In the red, there is the hobgoblin empire of Erreg-Sakaldea. Its emperor, residing in the palace city of Jain-Regia is worshiped by the people of the empire. Despite appearing large, most of its area enjoys a great deal of autonomy and are more like tributary states than actual provinces. It was warily accepting of outsiders, until Ligua betrayed its trust by seizing its island territories in the west and conducting slave raids. Due to its lack of a combat navy, the empire has been helpless to prevent this.

To its west are the Liguan colonies, with their capital on Borica. They make their living through huge plantations of cash crops which are promptly sent back to Ligua itself. These plantations run on orc and hobgoblin slave labor, and there is a tone of general human supremacy there.

In lavender are the Makkalai lizardfolk. They are not one nation, but rather a group of tribes with a common language and culture. They have no large cities, instead being mostly migratory. Nature worship is a very important part of their religion, and druids are very common. They are usually friendly to outsiders, even as Kechas founds a colony on their lands. However, they are beginning to migrate southward.

Speaking of Kechas, its colony, Vatakatal is not too old. The capital of Karia Sehara is its only major city, the rest of the population working farms. Unlike the Liguans, slavery is not allowed, at least officially. It has made a policy of attempting to integrate the Makkalai into its population, which is working, albeit slowly.

Sosorin, the gate to Rais, has only founded a single port city, Minab, and enough farmland to support it. Minab has become wealthy, due to Sosorin regulations requiring all ships leaving from the capital of Minab to dock there first, regardless of destination. Though it is possible to find a captain willing to leave from elsewhere, the routes are less safe, and recently, pirates have begun threatening routes the Sosorin do not traverse. Some of the more cynical say these are actually privateers hired to enforce their monopoly on travel.

People did not expect Chalahne to found its colony of Favvara, named after its capital. The emperor is usually concerned with continental affairs, but for some reason, adventurers are often invited to go there and explore the continent on behalf of the emperor. Perhaps the Ruby Turban knows something the other nations do not…

In the southwest of the continent, in the far-reaching savanna, are the remnants of the hobgoblin Zasmuin Empire. Before the foreigners discovered Rais, it had already collapsed, and much of its provinces are still independent and pursuing their own goals. Foreigners are welcome, and the city of Zazmu still recieves many of them.

Finally, on the east coast are the mysterious elves who call themselves the Nyun Ho. They have kept to themselves, with one notable exception. Several years ago, a band of Liguans shipwrecked on the east coast of Rais. They thought themselves dead, until some elves came and signaled them to come with them. For several days, they traversed through the rugged jungle, following the elves, until they reached a valley with a huge lake. Once there, they were introduced to a high priest who somehow spoke their language. He told them they could stay as long as they liked and explore Nyun Ho territory, with one condition: to tell others that any attempt to intrude on their way of life would be dealt with swiftly and severely.
 

McDurer

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The PoD of this timeline is that the Kapp Putsch got astonishingly successful, Britain tried to intervene via a Sea Blockade but botched its operations to focus on fighting Irish rebels which resulted in the proper Integration of Ireland into the United Kingdom. France harshened its occupation of the Rhineland severely which resulted in the Cologne Massacre in which hole Families were slaughtered by French Colonial Troops. When it was announced that Kaiser Wilhelm would give Germany a visit, French Agents slaughtered the hole Imperial Family at the Dutch Border but due to sheer incompetence of the French the hole action was discovered by nearby Dutch Border Guards which rushed to aid of the surviving Family Members of the Kaiser. The end result was a dozen dead Dutch and French and an anti-french outcry in the hole Netherlands which lead to the Netherlands lending support to Germany and legitimizing the Kapp-Lüdewitz-Government.
The Freikorps continued to fight in Russia but were way more sucessful as in our timeline through strong support from the German Government, eventually the Bolsheviks were defeated in 1924 and a Triad-Government was formed by the Generals Piotr Wrangel, Aleksandr Kolchak and Roman von Ungern-Sternberg.
Captured by nationalist fervor and an even greater desire for Revenge the Kapp-Lüdewitz Government gained strong support by multiple parties and a fraction of the SPD. This unstable composition continued till the Great Depression in 1929 in which the hole Country was torn into another great Crisis and ending in the forceful disbandment of the SPD and USPD and the forced formation of the Vaterlandsfront (Fatherlandsfront) comsisting of all parties from center to extreme right. The ensuing rule for the next 3 years was characterized by the coronation of Kaiser Allbert, constant battles between the now State enrolled Freikorps and various leftist militias.
The battles culminated in Soldiers of Freikorps Roßbach chasing Communists near the Rhine which the French Troops perceived as an assault and swiftly retreated from the Rhineland. This accident was propagandized as part of a great plan and the population swiftly cached that up.
The Following years were characterized by the Freikorps becoming an essential part of the military and police force, forming an own Freikorps-Council and various intrigues in the Reichstag and the Formation of Intermarium by Poland.
When Reichskanzler Hugenberg was shot by the radical Horst Wessel in 1934 the hole Country was thrown back into Crisis, the reactionary wing of the Vaterlandsfront led by Hermann Göring and the fascist/revolutionary wing led by Otto Strasser both couldn't find a deal on who would be new chancellor, while Kaiser August remained silent. Eventually street fights and widespread discontent appeared again in Germany until the Freikorpscouncil decided to act. Hermann Ehrhardt and numerous Freikorps-Divisions stormed Berlin, hunted Strasser down, captured Göring and blackmailed Kaiser August to intervene in their favor.
The result of the hole intermezzo was the proclamation of Hermann Erhardt as Chancellor (and defacto Dictator) and the promotion of numerous Freikorps-Officers to Generals and ministers.

Eventually Germany would find itself at odds with the new Entente (Great Britain, Intermarium, France, Italy, Romania, Spain, and a blackmailed Turkey) while fighting alongside Russia under Lord Protector Roman von Ungern Sternberg and Prince Michael (who is dead since 1922), Austria, Hungary and Bulgaria.
This World War II was way bloodier and even more stupid than our World War II. Due to bad military Organisation German Freikorps stormed through both Switzerland and Switzerland at the same time leaving the French to march up to Cologne until finally getting encircled.
While this happened the Intermarium-Russia front was characterized by Russian Cossacks assaulting Polish Tanks, Russians razing Brest-Litowsk and constant executions of Russian soldiers by their officers for being to soft.
The Netherlands were invaded by the British (they hoped the Dutch would see them as allies) which led to the Remnants of the Dutch Army joining the Germans in the houndred-thousands and swiftly reconquering the Netherlands and capturing several British Ships.
The Culmination of the hole conflict found itself in the Battle of London in which the Royal Irish Aces betrayed the English and joined with the Germans.
The End of the Conflict saw the German-Russian Victory, the canonization of Roman von Ungern Sternberg as a Saint, the establishment of a French Kingdom and the Reunion of Hungary and Austria (but only de jure not the facto).
 
Gwrtheyrn Annwn

Gwrtheyrn Annwn

McDurer said:
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The PoD of this timeline is that the Kapp Putsch got astonishingly successful, Britain tried to intervene via a Sea Blockade but botched its operations to focus on fighting Irish rebels which resulted in the proper Integration of Ireland into the United Kingdom. France harshened its occupation of the Rhineland severely which resulted in the Cologne Massacre in which hole Families were slaughtered by French Colonial Troops. When it was announced that Kaiser Wilhelm would give Germany a visit, French Agents slaughtered the hole Imperial Family at the Dutch Border but due to sheer incompetence of the French the hole action was discovered by nearby Dutch Border Guards which rushed to aid of the surviving Family Members of the Kaiser. The end result was a dozen dead Dutch and French and an anti-french outcry in the hole Netherlands which lead to the Netherlands lending support to Germany and legitimizing the Kapp-Lüdewitz-Government.
The Freikorps continued to fight in Russia but were way more sucessful as in our timeline through strong support from the German Government, eventually the Bolsheviks were defeated in 1924 and a Triad-Government was formed by the Generals Piotr Wrangel, Aleksandr Kolchak and Roman von Ungern-Sternberg.
Captured by nationalist fervor and an even greater desire for Revenge the Kapp-Lüdewitz Government gained strong support by multiple parties and a fraction of the SPD. This unstable composition continued till the Great Depression in 1929 in which the hole Country was torn into another great Crisis and ending in the forceful disbandment of the SPD and USPD and the forced formation of the Vaterlandsfront (Fatherlandsfront) comsisting of all parties from center to extreme right. The ensuing rule for the next 3 years was characterized by the coronation of Kaiser Allbert, constant battles between the now State enrolled Freikorps and various leftist militias.
The battles culminated in Soldiers of Freikorps Roßbach chasing Communists near the Rhine which the French Troops perceived as an assault and swiftly retreated from the Rhineland. This accident was propagandized as part of a great plan and the population swiftly cached that up.
The Following years were characterized by the Freikorps becoming an essential part of the military and police force, forming an own Freikorps-Council and various intrigues in the Reichstag and the Formation of Intermarium by Poland.
When Reichskanzler Hugenberg was shot by the radical Horst Wessel in 1934 the hole Country was thrown back into Crisis, the reactionary wing of the Vaterlandsfront led by Hermann Göring and the fascist/revolutionary wing led by Otto Strasser both couldn't find a deal on who would be new chancellor, while Kaiser August remained silent. Eventually street fights and widespread discontent appeared again in Germany until the Freikorpscouncil decided to act. Hermann Ehrhardt and numerous Freikorps-Divisions stormed Berlin, hunted Strasser down, captured Göring and blackmailed Kaiser August to intervene in their favor.
The result of the hole intermezzo was the proclamation of Hermann Erhardt as Chancellor (and defacto Dictator) and the promotion of numerous Freikorps-Officers to Generals and ministers.

Eventually Germany would find itself at odds with the new Entente (Great Britain, Intermarium, France, Italy, Romania, Spain, and a blackmailed Turkey) while fighting alongside Russia under Lord Protector Roman von Ungern Sternberg and Prince Michael (who is dead since 1922), Austria, Hungary and Bulgaria.
This World War II was way bloodier and even more stupid than our World War II. Due to bad military Organisation German Freikorps stormed through both Switzerland and Switzerland at the same time leaving the French to march up to Cologne until finally getting encircled.
While this happened the Intermarium-Russia front was characterized by Russian Cossacks assaulting Polish Tanks, Russians razing Brest-Litowsk and constant executions of Russian soldiers by their officers for being to soft.
The Netherlands were invaded by the British (they hoped the Dutch would see them as allies) which led to the Remnants of the Dutch Army joining the Germans in the houndred-thousands and swiftly reconquering the Netherlands and capturing several British Ships.
The Culmination of the hole conflict found itself in the Battle of London in which the Royal Irish Aces betrayed the English and joined with the Germans.
The End of the Conflict saw the German-Russian Victory, the canonization of Roman von Ungern Sternberg as a Saint, the establishment of a French Kingdom and the Reunion of Hungary and Austria (but only de jure not the facto).
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Two things from an aesthetic standpoint.
1. Why is Austria using a fascist Austria-Hungary flag whilst Hungary is still using its own flsg.? (The Arrow Cross is the Hungarian fascist symbol.)
2. Why is Romania the only country with no flag and regional borders?
 

McDurer

Gwrtheyrn Annwn said:
Two things from an aesthetic standpoint.
1. Why is Austria using a fascist Austria-Hungary flag whilst Hungary is still using its own flsg.? (The Arrow Cross is the Hungarian fascist symbol.)
2. Why is Romania the only country with no flag and regional borders?
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1. Cause Horthy is still in power and the Arrow-Cross is still kept down, also I thought that this was the Flag of Austria since Dolfuß
2. Cause I forget that one, oh and I forgot Albania :(
 
Gwrtheyrn Annwn

Gwrtheyrn Annwn

McDurer said:
1. Cause Horthy is still in power and the Arrow-Cross is still kept down, also I thought that this was the Flag of Austria since Dolfuß
2. Cause I forget that one, oh and I forgot Albania :(
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1. Oh never mind, I've forgot the green triangle on the Austrofacist flag. :oops: It worth noting though that the flag you're using is the party flag, IIRC Austria as a nation continued using the Austrian flag. Also Horthy was leader of Hungary not Austria. ;)
2. Ah, fair enough.
 
Milites

Milites

I come bringing not one, but two maps. Both are from my current timeline. The first one shows the progress of the Frederickian feud whilst the other details the Sture rebellion in Finland and subsequent insurgency in Dalarna under the leadership of Magnus Eriksson Vasa.

I hope you enjoy them :)

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Ivoshafen

Ivoshafen

Milites said:
I come bringing not one, but two maps. Both are from my current timeline. The first one shows the progress of the Frederickian feud whilst the other details the Sture rebellion in Finland and subsequent insurgency in Dalarna under the leadership of Magnus Eriksson Vasa.

I hope you enjoy them :)
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I'm a simple man, I see the Baltic Sea, I like.
 

EineKatze

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>I cannot help but thing that the Military Frontiers of Slavonia, Croatia, and the areas north of Serbia would not have went with the Ungarian republic.

The Habsburg empire was collapsing, not really much they could do

>If Hungary is a republic here it wouldn't have even the slightest claim on Slavonia.

Military conquest

>Also surprising there aren't places taking the title of Electorate, Margraviate, or Grand Duchy.

Prince-Elector is an imperial title and the HRE is gone. There are no longer any sovereign margraviated. Luxemburg is a Grand Duchy

>Also, was Sweden taking Bornholm deliberate?

Mistake
 
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