Map Thread XI
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Nice. Normally, when I see Soviet Unions that large, they're at war with Oceania and/or Eastasia.
Dorozhand
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This made me smile
and then frown, with the bitter realization of the world I currently inhabit
Dorozhand
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Now that my finals are over and I finally have time to be creative again I made this little scenario. I was reading this thread about how the USSR was originally intended as a world government when I saw a comment from Meadow about how he'd
So of course I has to create a skeleton TL on that premise.
Massive amount of text in 3... 2... 1...
You should check out thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6agn2HKZw8 timeline.
Seconded! Gives me a headache...
Dey vill learn. Ve haf vays of makingk dem to learn.
This is me when I was trying to read it:
The Comiitegi
Uiioi of Soviet Socialist Yaepublics, Special Ddmiiistrative Yaigeois, Uiited Socialist States of Ddmerica, Yaepublic of Spaii, Otheg Membegs of the Socialist Federatioi of Iatiois, Capitalist States shith Observer Status ii the SFI.
I love the map, but seeing communism be so widespread causes me physical pain.
Doesn't justify making our eyes burn. Seriously, faux-Cyrilic is the internet equivalent of chopping onions for no particular reason while the entire household has pinkeye. And no, I'm not directing this at you specifically.
How democratic and developed are the USSR and the USSA ?
Ephraim Ben Raphael
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Nice. Normally, when I see Soviet Unions that large, they're at war with Oceania and/or Eastasia.
Thanks, but I think I've already done that scenario.
This made me smile
and then frown, with the bitter realization of the world I currently inhabit
I'm glad you liked it.
That said it isn't a Utopia, the USSR is much better than it was in our world but it's still somewhat oppressive. The state is officially atheist with visible expressions of religion illegal, media is still heavily censored, and while neutered opposition parties exist their supporters are often intimidated and people who are too vocally critical of the government can lose their jobs.
Interesting, if a bit word heavy. Not enough has been done with communist Germany.
The British and the French did in fact send aid to the various White groups as they did OTL. However also as OTL they failed to send enough aid to fully defeat the Reds, and only managed to convince various populations that the Whites were the pawns of foreign powers. They had just come out of WWI anyway, and were hardly eager to plunge into another serious conflict.
(Bludgeoned to death with an icepick? Must have been a low-rent assassin...
Bruce
That or the time-traveling ghost of Leon Trotsky. THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW!
Thank you.
America isn't as communist as it is democratic socialist, unlike the USSR they actually do have a competitive democracy (like Spain), real freedom of religion, genuinely free press, and their economic planning is largely restricted to industry.
Well the USSR permits the existence of alternate communist groups and of small opposition parties, but they use a combination of gerrymandering, vote stuffing, fraud, and intimidation to ensure that the Communist Party of the Soviet Union always has at least two thirds of the seats in the national legislature. Minor independent presses and opposition newspapers exist, but most media acts as a mouthpiece for the government. criticizing the government isn't illegal, but it can get you put on a list making you last in line for public benefits and a job. That said industry and standard of living are unevenly developed across the union- higher in Russia, Germany, and France, lower in places like Central Asia.
The USSA as mentioned previously is much more free and "right-wing", unions have a lot of power there and run much of the economy and small to medium scale capitalism is much more tolerated.
Muahahaha! My invidious plot to torture all the people who can read Cyrillic is working! Burn, eyes! BURN!
(Seriously I'm sorry, it won't happen again. Would it help if I made another version of the map with just time new roman?)
That or the time-traveling ghost of Leon Trotsky. THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW!
My point was that you don't _bludgeon_ with an ice-pick, you _stab_ with it, even in the head, as far as I know (which time travelling Trotsky would surely know). Bludgeoning with an icepick sounds like sword-fighting by hitting people on the head with the pommel.
I liked the multiple fonts idea; it would just be better to use a Cyrillic-esque font that isn't actually using Cyrillic letters.
Goldstein
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ITTL, the 1520 Revolt of the Communities of Castile was victorious and, facing a dynastic void, an incipent Bourgoise republic was set up. The Hapsburgs only retained control of Navarra the Crown of Aragon in the Iberian Peninsula, save for Valencia, that would become a merchant republic supported by Castile. Hernán Cortés did not accept the outcome, and went all Colonel Kurtz in the recently conquered lands. A bit later, the Huguenots, inspired by the events in Castile, where Protestant ideas were already permeating, would establish a Calvinist republic in southern France that would eventually take the north, prompting a Royalist exile to the Americas in the subsequent centuries, in what would become the Kingdom of Mississippi.
Fast-forward to the present day. The world is still divided in a Republican (including a France that resembles a lot the Commonwealth from the Puritan World) and a Monarchist, Reactionary side, the latter including a centralized HRE and a still catholic England (Scotland, meanwhile, turned Protestant). The only parliamentary monarchies are Mississippi (which suffers a very strong post-racial hangover ad just want to be left alone) and Russia, which modernized after a Tsar seriously feared for his head. Cortesia combines Catholicism's religious police, and our 20th century's surveillance systems and cult of personality: a very colorful, fucking insane place.
Africa is progressively decolonizing, and most of Asia is already post-colonial, the main powers there being a EU-Esque South Asian union Sponsored by Persia and the Mughals, and a Neo-Confucian conference dominated by *Manchus. Something very close to Marxism originated in the Ottoman empire, and erupted in an industrialized Egypt after a Wahabbi-esque Islamist revival that followed the Empire's decay. Europe suffered a major war in the 20th century, which ended with a maintenance of the status quo and fueled an anti-belicist movement. Still, many think the war to end all wars will be fought this century, sooner rather than later. The current tech level is around OTL 1950's, and there are no nukes yet.
Fast-forward to the present day. The world is still divided in a Republican (including a France that resembles a lot the Commonwealth from the Puritan World) and a Monarchist, Reactionary side, the latter including a centralized HRE and a still catholic England (Scotland, meanwhile, turned Protestant). The only parliamentary monarchies are Mississippi (which suffers a very strong post-racial hangover ad just want to be left alone) and Russia, which modernized after a Tsar seriously feared for his head. Cortesia combines Catholicism's religious police, and our 20th century's surveillance systems and cult of personality: a very colorful, fucking insane place.
Africa is progressively decolonizing, and most of Asia is already post-colonial, the main powers there being a EU-Esque South Asian union Sponsored by Persia and the Mughals, and a Neo-Confucian conference dominated by *Manchus. Something very close to Marxism originated in the Ottoman empire, and erupted in an industrialized Egypt after a Wahabbi-esque Islamist revival that followed the Empire's decay. Europe suffered a major war in the 20th century, which ended with a maintenance of the status quo and fueled an anti-belicist movement. Still, many think the war to end all wars will be fought this century, sooner rather than later. The current tech level is around OTL 1950's, and there are no nukes yet.
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WIP for a Mongol wank. Was wondering if I could get some feedback.
For those who might be wondering, brown is the Mongol Empire proper, creme is the vassals/protectorates/Mongol influenced states.
For those who might be wondering, brown is the Mongol Empire proper, creme is the vassals/protectorates/Mongol influenced states.
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