Indonesia ATL: The Presidency of Try Sutrisno (1997-)

Oooh...don't tempt me. Last time I did this, we got halfway around the world and we didn't see Try in the TL for a while and it effectively becomes another TL.
Don't worry...take your time.....
There's a lot of stuff floating around in my head like the PAS no longer being part of Barisan Alternatif because "Anwar Ibrahim's post 9/11 stance was too close to Try's for their liking, "
Considering IOTL...I feel like there is something going behind the scenes....
Arroyo in the Philippines getting ready for a shot at the presidency,
No comment (I had absolutely no idea in regards to this...)
Ukraine's Kuchma gaining something of a prominence promoting his "multi-vector" foreign policy in a multipolar world ("It's only multipolar for those aspiring to be "poles", the rest of us has to make do with multi-vectorism") despite Kuchmagate still happening,
Let's see how that goes (probably badly)
some of the observers in NAM being interested in joining NAM for real...
Huh....NAM being relevant again...that news to me....
 
251: The President of Gabon's Father-In-Law
Approaching the "May 2002 Around the World update" on my 5th rereading (yes, i'm either forgetful or just that engrossed in your TL) and just realized that with the TL has already on May 2003, is the March 2003 coup of President Patassé of the Central African Republic still succeeded like OTL because Gaddafi already prepared the ISA on their journey home, or Patassé is actually saved again?
Funny you should ask that...

19th May 2003:
After arriving late the previous night at Manama, Bahrain, President Try Sutrisno and his delegation made their way to the Al-Sakhir Palace in the morning. There, he was given a welcome ceremony, including a sword ceremony by King of Bahrain Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa. Try and Hamad hugged each other very effusively.

There was another ceremony to attend to immediately after this one. A teleconference had been set up, linking Bahrain with Indonesia and on the screen, those in attendance could see Vice President JB Sumarlin, Minister of Public Works Budi Susilo Soepandji, Head of the BKPM Mari Elka Pangestu, Governor of Jakarta Endriartono Sutarto, and Governor of West Java Muzani Syukur. Thus was a ceremony under way when Try together with Hamad inaugurated the Cilincing-Cibitung Toll Road and the Serpong-Parung Toll Road, projects which Hamad had signed on to invest in the last time Try visited Bahrain in November 2000.

After a mid-morning banquet, Try and Hamad disappeared into a room to have their private meeting. Try was accompanied by Minister of Foreign Affairs Marzuki Darusman and State Secretary Edi Sudrajat while Hamad was accompanied by Prime Minister Khalifa bin Salman Al Khalifa.

Try praised Hamad for Bahrain’s involvement in Operation Enduring Freedom saying that actually getting involved in Afghanistan was a line he could not cross. Hamad returned the compliment saying that without Indonesia’s stance against extremism, the War on Terror would not progress. Hamad expressed discontent with both the United States and Russia at the moment; the United States for moving too quickly onto Yugoslavia while Osama Bin Laden is still out there and Russia, in a bid to build friends in the Islamic world, said that Islamic nations should not feel pressured to do anything in the wake of 9/11. Try said that this just gives an excuse for those who are not serious about taking action to not take action to which all those present agreed.

There was much joking about how Russia trying to seem more friendly did not help them because there was a lot of support for the intervention in Yugoslavia among the Islamic world. On a more serious note, however, Marzuki and Khalifa both agreed that so long as the War On Terror is not over, “our nations will still be part of the equation”. Khalifa said that in addition to wanting Indonesia to keep quiet or stay out from taking any stand on Yugoslavia, the continuing need for support in the War of Terror was the reasoning behind the military aid sent by the United States and the United Kingdom Indonesia’s way earlier in the year.

Marzuki asked about how the United Kingdom was doing, given Bahrain’s close relations to it. Khalifa said that the United Kingdom’s now under Prime Minister Gordon Brown after Blair took the British Parliament’s refusal to authorize military intervention as a vote of no-confidence and resigned. From what news he has gathered, the United Kingdom, because it has not participated in the intervention in Yugoslavia is wanting to make itself useful and wanting to counter, in particular, Australia’s increased influence over the United States in that coalition. Edi softly kicked Try’s foot at this.

By and large, Try and Hamad agreed on a lot of issues. The only issue where Hamad was a bit ambivalent was Try becoming close to Iran, half-jokingly saying that he tended to agree with Saudi Arabia on Iran but added more seriously that if Iran could be more constructive that this would be all right. It was late afternoon when Hamad escorted Try to the Bahrain International Airport and for the latter to depart to his next destination.

“We are nowhere near part of the inner circle of that coalition and so we must take advantage of any tensions or internal divisions”, Marzuki was heard saying “That’s the gap we must exploit to advance Indonesia’s interests.”

20th May 2003:
Arriving in the evening again the previous night at Harare, Zimbabwe, the morning saw Try and his delegation depart for the State House. There he was given an official welcome ceremony by President of Zimbabwe Emmerson Mnagagwa before they disappeared inside for their meeting.

Inside Try was accompanied by Marzuki Darusman, Minister of Defense and Security Wiranto, Minister of Economics and National Development Planning Dorodjatun Kuntjoro-Jakti, Minister of Trade Anthony Salim, State Minister of State-Owned Enterprises Cacuk Sudarijanto, and Edi Sudrajat. Mnangagwa was accompanied by Prime Minister Simba Makoni, Minister of Foreign Affairs Simbarashe Mumbengegwi, Minister of Finance Herbert Murerwa, Minister of Defence Sydney Sekaramayi, Minister of Industry and International Trade Samuel Mumbengegwi, and Minister of Transport and Communications Joice Mujuru.

The meeting produced the following agreements:

*Dorodjatun and Murerwa signed an agreement to establish an Economic Cooperation Commission between the two countries and for Indonesia to send a business delegation to Zimbabwe to explore investment opportunities.

*Anthony and Samuel Mumbengegwi signed an MoU committing the Zimbabwean government to facilitate importers seeking to import Indonesian FMCGs.

*Cacuk Sudarijanto and Joice Mujuru signed an agreement whereby Zimbabwe will purchase INKA trains to help revitalize Zimbabwe’s railway system.

*Wiranto and Sekaramayi signed agreement where Indonesia will purchase all 12 of Zimbabwe’s BAE Hawks Aircraft.

Try and Mnangagwa held a joint press conference afterwards. The BAE Hawks got some attention, with Mnangagwa saying that the government’s priority was economic recovery after they had withdrawn from the war in Congo and that this included cutting defense spending, saying that Zimbabwe was struggling with spare parts and maintenance and had to prioritize its economy.

Try got a question from a BBC Journalist about whether he saw similarities between himself and Mnagagwa, both successors of older men who had been mentors, and both having their legitimacy questioned by someone related to their predecessor; Chairwoman of the PKPB Tutut Soeharto and former First Lady Grace Mugabe in the case of Mnangagwa. Try diplomatically Indonesia and Zimbabwe had both their respective succession mechanisms and that if this is mechanism is adhered to, then the succession should be called legitimate.

“But I understand now why I have and am getting along so well with President Mnangagwa”, Try said to Mnangagwa’s laughter.

The late afternoon saw Try held a meet and greet with Indonesians who are living in Zimbabwe as well as the families of the Indonesian Embassy in Zimbabwe’s staff. This being National Awakening Day, Try told those present to be proud of themselves for by being in Zimbabwe and in Africa they are helping with the nation’s national awakening and that one day the world will take notice of Indonesia.

The day ended at the State House where Mnangagwa held a State Banquet in Try’s honor; both men toasting their respective nations’ diplomatic relationship with each other.

21st May 2003:
The day began with Tru and First Lady Tuti Setiawati making a quick visit to Makavisi Woodland where they had a look at the animals. From there, after stopping at their hotel to get changed, Try went to Zimbabwe House where he, accompanied by Dorodjatun, met with Makoni. Try allowed Dorodjatun to do most of the speaking with Makoni. Hearing about Makoni saying that defense spending had to be slashed so that more funds are available for economic development, Try was reminded of Indonesia’s own experience.

From there, there was an event where Try and Mnangagwa unveiling a supermarket billboard in the middle of Harare advertising the availability of Indonesian FMCGs in the city. The two were then seen touring a supermarket and looking at various Indonesian FMCGs, Mnangagwa saying that he has taken a liking to Kopiko.

Try and Mnangagwa had lunch together and then began talking about various issues. Mnangagwa said that Zimbabwe still had some long way to go economically to develop though Try consoled him by saying Zimbabwe did not wait until inflation was 650% before it tried to economic recovery and that it was the right thing pulling out of the Second Congo War. Try agreed with Mnangagwa that they both wanted to utilize the G-15 to foster economic cooperation.

Try asked Mnangagwa about the Second Congo War. Mnangagwa said that it was a mess with the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Angola, and Namibia on one side with Rwanda and Uganda on the other side. If the Angolans manage to score victory in their civil war, they will be more focused in helping their side of the war to victory. Rwanda and Uganda are holding on but all the while failing to get others on their side and getting the United States to assist them now that the latter are distracted by 9/11 and now, the intervention in Yugoslavia. Mnangagwa said that China and Russia will be the beneficiary if the DRC emerges victorious.

Try’s afternoon itinerary took him to the National Heroes’ Acre where he paid his respects at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and visited the museum there.

22nd May 2003:
After one final visit in the morning to the State House to farewell Mnangagwa, Try and his delegation headed to Harare International Airport and departure to their next destination. It was around noon when the Presidential Airplane landed at Leon-Mba International Airport, Libreville, Gabon. On the tarmac there was much handshakes and hugs from President of Gabon Omar Bongo. After a short ceremony, Try and Bongo rode in a car together to the Palais du Bord de Mer, a very luxurious presidential palace.

There was another ceremony there with Try and Bongo making speeches about each other. Bongo said that it was a happy occasion to at last meet a friend he had only “encountered on written pages” while Try said that he will never forget Gabon’s support “even though we had never met, for Indonesia’s territorial integrity”.

Business was conducted in a meeting between Try and Bongo. Try was accompanied by Marzuki, Dorodjatun, Minister of Mining and Energy Awang Faroek Ishak, Cacuk Sudarijanto and Edi while Bongo was accompanied by Prime Minister Jean Francois Ntoutoume Emane, Minister of Foreign Affairs Jean Ping, Minister of Finance and Economy Paul Toungoui, and Minister of Mines, Energy, and Oil Richard Auguste Onouviet. The meeting agreed on the following:

*Awang Faroek Ishak and Onouviet signed an agreement where Indonesia would import crude oil from Gabon.

*Cacuk and Toungoui signed an agreement making official a Gabonese purchase of 2 units of CN-235s.

There were a lot of smiles when the agreement to make the import of crude oil official. Bongo said Gabon’s prosperity is directly linked with that one of the world’s five major emerging economies and, as an aside, said that he could now look at this father-in-law, who had concluded a similar deal with China, in the eye. Try smiled, other than Gabonese petroleum, meeting Bongo’s father-in-law was the reason that he was in Gabon.

23rd May 2003:
At the Leon-Mba International Airport, Bongo welcomed the arrival of his father-in-law who was none other than President of the Republic of Congo Denis Sassou-Nguesso. After a welcome ceremony, Sassou-Nguesso was escorted to the airport’s VIP rooms where he was introduced to Try. There was a lot of cameras snapping and then Try sat down to talk with the two African presidents.

Amongst talk about how Bongo had “said a lot about you”, Try and Sassou-Nguesso talked about each other’s countries and agreed that the two nations should establish diplomatic relations with each other.

Sassou-Nguesso was the first to broach the topic Try wanted to talk about, enquiring about the Acehnese. Try talked about Aceh, how Acehnese secessionists had been trained in Libya in the past, and how it was part of Indonesia, before asking whether it was true that they had been in Africa in recent times.

“Two years ago now, there was a coup attempt in the Central African Republic, just north of where my country is, against President Ange-Felix Patasse”, Sassou-Nguesso said “The coup failed and to ensure that such future attempts also fail, President Patasse’s armed forces were reinforced by his ally, Colonel Gaddafi in Libya. The Libyan contingent included Acehnese personnel. There were more coup attempts against President Patasse in the past 2 years but these have failed; in part because President Patasse imprisoned Gen. Bozize, the man widely seen as the leader of the anti-Patasse forces; in part because the Acehnese are formidable soldiers to have in a skirmish.

Apparently the message from Gaddafi was that they should be the first deployed in a situation because “they need the practice” but judging by the stories of how they have helped beaten back coup attempts, they are ready for whatever it is they are being prepared for. There were a few rotations with different units returning to Libya and other units coming in to Central Africa, but they were Acehnese…”

“If I may, Mr. President”, interrupted Bongo “Perhaps our guest would like to know what your sources are.”

“Ah yes”, continued Sassou-Nguesso “My sympathies in this predicament lies with Bozize and I have people in his camp that provide me with information.”

“Are the Acehnese still in Central Africa, Mr. President”, asked Try.

“Well, Mr. President, the most recent information I’ve got from Central Africa, at least from Bozize’s supporters, is that a coup attempt against Patasse is being contemplated”, replied Sassou-Nguesso “Precisely because they’re not there anymore. A unit has returned to Libya but another one has not been sent in its place.”

Try thought about this carefully…this was definitely information that he had come to get.

“So much for the Acehnese in Africa, now for the East Timorese in Africa”, Sassou Nguesso continued.

Try’s heart sank at this.

“To the Republic of Congo’s south is Angola and the Angolans are participants both in the war currently happening in the other Congo and their own civil war which has gone on for decades”, said Sassou-Nguesso “And the Angolans have been using East Timorese as auxiliary forces, they’re coming into Angola from Mozambique. They are recruited in Mozambique and they have been getting both training and experience from the Angolan military.”

“How strong is the Angolan military?” asked Try.

“Capable of conducting numerous regional interventions at the same time, Mr. President” replied Sassou-Nguesso “I should know…they were the ones who installed me in my current position. They only just withdrew out of my country just months ago.”

Try tried to keep his head clear.

“Are the East Timorese still in Angola, Mr. President?” asked Try.

“Well, the Angolan Civil War is not over yet” replied Sassou-Nguesso “But the East Timorese will only be on board in Angola until July…after that they are departing back to Mozambique and that is the limits of my information.”

---

Stockholm, Sweden…
TVRI International beamed images of Try shaking hands with Sassou-Nguesso and hugging Bongo at the conclusion of their three-way conversation and then walking up the airplane stairs to board the Presidential Airplane.

“Do you suppose he’s aware of our existence?” asked the OPM’s Jacob Prai as he watched the screen “He’s sniffing around in the right places.”

“Only vaguely”, replied the Fretilin’s Jose Ramos Horta “They know we’re preparing something, but not precisely what...”

“They are in the dark”, interjected the GAM’s Abdullah Syafi’i “They don’t even realize we’ve been getting our men to move and take up their positions under the guise of participating in transmigration.”

“Well, they've caught on to the fact that you’re using fake ID cards”, said Prai.

“But they don’t see anything beyond that”, countered Syafi’i.

Ramos Horta watched as Try turned around at the top of the airplane stairs to wave at Bongo and Sassou-Nguesso. He smiled when he saw that there was something forced about Try’s smile and chuckled at the look on his face as he turned around to head in.

“You look worried…” said Ramos Horta “You should be worried…”

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Refer to 102 to the King of Bahrain (then Emir) investing in toll roads. The factories I’m trying to remember what factories I had in mind.

Zimbabwe dodged the hyperinflation bullet but they’re taking the same steps that early New Order is taking (ie. focusing on the economy and cutting defense spending).

On Mnangagwa and Grace Mugabe struggling for succession in OTL Zimbabwe https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-41530924. I’ve always identified Mnangagwa as a “Try”, someone who inherits a third world authoritarian/illiberal/hybrid regime rather than build it.

The Democratic Republic of Congo and the Republic of Congo are two different nations.

Between 1989 and 2009, the President of Bongo was the son-in-law of the President of the Republic of Congo https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/may/05/1 (check out the final sentence of the article)

On Sassou-Nguesso becoming president with the backing of Angola https://reliefweb.int/report/angola/congo-angolan-troops-begin-pull-out
 
Funny you should ask that...
Yeah, twice already happened that when i just arrived at a particular plot thread, you uploaded a new entry that continued it.
19th May 2003:
After arriving late the previous night at Manama, Bahrain, President Try Sutrisno and his delegation made their way to the Al-Sakhir Palace in the morning. There, he was given a welcome ceremony, including a sword ceremony by King of Bahrain Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa. Try and Hamad hugged each other very effusively.

There was another ceremony to attend to immediately after this one. A teleconference had been set up, linking Bahrain with Indonesia and on the screen, those in attendance could see Vice President JB Sumarlin, Minister of Public Works Budi Susilo Soepandji, Head of the BKPM Mari Elka Pangestu, Governor of Jakarta Endriartono Sutarto, and Governor of West Java Muzani Syukur. Thus was a ceremony under way when Try together with Hamad inaugurated the Cilincing-Cibitung Toll Road and the Serpong-Parung Toll Road, projects which Hamad had signed on to invest in the last time Try visited Bahrain in November 2000.
Nice
After a mid-morning banquet, Try and Hamad disappeared into a room to have their private meeting. Try was accompanied by Minister of Foreign Affairs Marzuki Darusman and State Secretary Edi Sudrajat while Hamad was accompanied by Prime Minister Khalifa bin Salman Al Khalifa.

Try praised Hamad for Bahrain’s involvement in Operation Enduring Freedom saying that actually getting involved in Afghanistan was a line he could not cross. Hamad returned the compliment saying that without Indonesia’s stance against extremism, the War on Terror would not progress. Hamad expressed discontent with both the United States and Russia at the moment; the United States for moving too quickly onto Yugoslavia while Osama Bin Laden is still out there and Russia, in a bid to build friends in the Islamic world, said that Islamic nations should not feel pressured to do anything in the wake of 9/11. Try said that this just gives an excuse for those who are not serious about taking action to not take action to which all those present agreed.

There was much joking about how Russia trying to seem more friendly did not help them because there was a lot of support for the intervention in Yugoslavia among the Islamic world. On a more serious note, however, Marzuki and Khalifa both agreed that so long as the War On Terror is not over, “our nations will still be part of the equation”. Khalifa said that in addition to wanting Indonesia to keep quiet or stay out from taking any stand on Yugoslavia, the continuing need for support in the War of Terror was the reasoning behind the military aid sent by the United States and the United Kingdom Indonesia’s way earlier in the year.
A "Multipolar Moment" indeed.
Marzuki asked about how the United Kingdom was doing, given Bahrain’s close relations to it. Khalifa said that the United Kingdom’s now under Prime Minister Gordon Brown after Blair took the British Parliament’s refusal to authorize military intervention as a vote of no-confidence and resigned. From what news he has gathered, the United Kingdom, because it has not participated in the intervention in Yugoslavia is wanting to make itself useful and wanting to counter, in particular, Australia’s increased influence over the United States in that coalition. Edi softly kicked Try’s foot at this.

[...]

“We are nowhere near part of the inner circle of that coalition and so we must take advantage of any tensions or internal divisions”, Marzuki was heard saying “That’s the gap we must exploit to advance Indonesia’s interests.”
Item ditto
By and large, Try and Hamad agreed on a lot of issues. The only issue where Hamad was a bit ambivalent was Try becoming close to Iran, half-jokingly saying that he tended to agree with Saudi Arabia on Iran but added more seriously that if Iran could be more constructive that this would be all right. It was late afternoon when Hamad escorted Try to the Bahrain International Airport and for the latter to depart to his next destination.
I mean, as long as Khatami is still there, it would be all right in the east of the Jordan River section of the Middle East.

20th May 2003:
Arriving in the evening again the previous night at Harare, Zimbabwe, the morning saw Try and his delegation depart for the State House. There he was given an official welcome ceremony by President of Zimbabwe Emmerson Mnagagwa before they disappeared inside for their meeting.

Inside Try was accompanied by Marzuki Darusman, Minister of Defense and Security Wiranto, Minister of Economics and National Development Planning Dorodjatun Kuntjoro-Jakti, Minister of Trade Anthony Salim, State Minister of State-Owned Enterprises Cacuk Sudarijanto, and Edi Sudrajat. Mnangagwa was accompanied by Prime Minister Simba Makoni, Minister of Foreign Affairs Simbarashe Mumbengegwi, Minister of Finance Herbert Murerwa, Minister of Defence Sydney Sekaramayi, Minister of Industry and International Trade Samuel Mumbengegwi, and Minister of Transport and Communications Joice Mujuru.

The meeting produced the following agreements:

*Dorodjatun and Murerwa signed an agreement to establish an Economic Cooperation Commission between the two countries and for Indonesia to send a business delegation to Zimbabwe to explore investment opportunities.

*Anthony and Samuel Mumbengegwi signed an MoU committing the Zimbabwean government to facilitate importers seeking to import Indonesian FMCGs.

*Cacuk Sudarijanto and Joice Mujuru signed an agreement whereby Zimbabwe will purchase INKA trains to help revitalize Zimbabwe’s railway system.

*Wiranto and Sekaramayi signed agreement where Indonesia will purchase all 12 of Zimbabwe’s BAE Hawks Aircraft.

Try and Mnangagwa held a joint press conference afterwards. The BAE Hawks got some attention, with Mnangagwa saying that the government’s priority was economic recovery after they had withdrawn from the war in Congo and that this included cutting defense spending, saying that Zimbabwe was struggling with spare parts and maintenance and had to prioritize its economy.
All is good in the post-Mugabe Zimbabwe so far....

Try got a question from a BBC Journalist about whether he saw similarities between himself and Mnagagwa, both successors of older men who had been mentors, and both having their legitimacy questioned by someone related to their predecessor; Chairwoman of the PKPB Tutut Soeharto and former First Lady Grace Mugabe in the case of Mnangagwa. Try diplomatically Indonesia and Zimbabwe had both their respective succession mechanisms and that if this is mechanism is adhered to, then the succession should be called legitimate.

“But I understand now why I have and am getting along so well with President Mnangagwa”, Try said to Mnangagwa’s laughter.
Lol

21st May 2003:
The day began with Tru and First Lady Tuti Setiawati making a quick visit to Makavisi Woodland where they had a look at the animals. From there, after stopping at their hotel to get changed, Try went to Zimbabwe House where he, accompanied by Dorodjatun, met with Makoni. Try allowed Dorodjatun to do most of the speaking with Makoni. Hearing about Makoni saying that defense spending had to be slashed so that more funds are available for economic development, Try was reminded of Indonesia’s own experience.

From there, there was an event where Try and Mnangagwa unveiling a supermarket billboard in the middle of Harare advertising the availability of Indonesian FMCGs in the city. The two were then seen touring a supermarket and looking at various Indonesian FMCGs, Mnangagwa saying that he has taken a liking to Kopiko.

Try and Mnangagwa had lunch together and then began talking about various issues. Mnangagwa said that Zimbabwe still had some long way to go economically to develop though Try consoled him by saying Zimbabwe did not wait until inflation was 650% before it tried to economic recovery and that it was the right thing pulling out of the Second Congo War. Try agreed with Mnangagwa that they both wanted to utilize the G-15 to foster economic cooperation.
*chef's kiss (i have several grievances towards the post-1959 Sukarno, btw)
Try asked Mnangagwa about the Second Congo War. Mnangagwa said that it was a mess with the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Angola, and Namibia on one side with Rwanda and Uganda on the other side. If the Angolans manage to score victory in their civil war, they will be more focused in helping their side of the war to victory. Rwanda and Uganda are holding on but all the while failing to get others on their side and getting the United States to assist them now that the latter are distracted by 9/11 and now, the intervention in Yugoslavia. Mnangagwa said that China and Russia will be the beneficiary if the DRC emerges victorious.
It's still a hot mess down there.

22nd May 2003:
After one final visit in the morning to the State House to farewell Mnangagwa, Try and his delegation headed to Harare International Airport and departure to their next destination. It was around noon when the Presidential Airplane landed at Leon-Mba International Airport, Libreville, Gabon. On the tarmac there was much handshakes and hugs from President of Gabon Omar Bongo. After a short ceremony, Try and Bongo rode in a car together to the Palais du Bord de Mer, a very luxurious presidential palace.

There was another ceremony there with Try and Bongo making speeches about each other. Bongo said that it was a happy occasion to at last meet a friend he had only “encountered on written pages” while Try said that he will never forget Gabon’s support “even though we had never met, for Indonesia’s territorial integrity”.
At last the two unknown allies meet.
Business was conducted in a meeting between Try and Bongo. Try was accompanied by Marzuki, Dorodjatun, Minister of Mining and Energy Awang Faroek Ishak, Cacuk Sudarijanto and Edi while Bongo was accompanied by Prime Minister Jean Francois Ntoutoume Emane, Minister of Foreign Affairs Jean Ping, Minister of Finance and Economy Paul Toungoui, and Minister of Mines, Energy, and Oil Richard Auguste Onouviet. The meeting agreed on the following:

*Awang Faroek Ishak and Onouviet signed an agreement where Indonesia would import crude oil from Gabon.

*Cacuk and Toungoui signed an agreement making official a Gabonese purchase of 2 units of CN-235s.

There were a lot of smiles when the agreement to make the import of crude oil official. Bongo said Gabon’s prosperity is directly linked with that one of the world’s five major emerging economies and, as an aside, said that he could now look at this father-in-law, who had concluded a similar deal with China, in the eye. Try smiled, other than Gabonese petroleum, meeting Bongo’s father-in-law was the reason that he was in Gabon.
ASEAN (or rather, Jakarta Bloc) as its own pole has really brought good results

23rd May 2003:
At the Leon-Mba International Airport, Bongo welcomed the arrival of his father-in-law who was none other than President of the Republic of Congo Denis Sassou-Nguesso. After a welcome ceremony, Sassou-Nguesso was escorted to the airport’s VIP rooms where he was introduced to Try. There was a lot of cameras snapping and then Try sat down to talk with the two African presidents.

Amongst talk about how Bongo had “said a lot about you”, Try and Sassou-Nguesso talked about each other’s countries and agreed that the two nations should establish diplomatic relations with each other.

Sassou-Nguesso was the first to broach the topic Try wanted to talk about, enquiring about the Acehnese. Try talked about Aceh, how Acehnese secessionists had been trained in Libya in the past, and how it was part of Indonesia, before asking whether it was true that they had been in Africa in recent times.

“Two years ago now, there was a coup attempt in the Central African Republic, just north of where my country is, against President Ange-Felix Patasse”, Sassou-Nguesso said “The coup failed and to ensure that such future attempts also fail, President Patasse’s armed forces were reinforced by his ally, Colonel Gaddafi in Libya. The Libyan contingent included Acehnese personnel. There were more coup attempts against President Patasse in the past 2 years but these have failed; in part because President Patasse imprisoned Gen. Bozize, the man widely seen as the leader of the anti-Patasse forces; in part because the Acehnese are formidable soldiers to have in a skirmish.
Bruh

Apparently the message from Gaddafi was that they should be the first deployed in a situation because “they need the practice” but judging by the stories of how they have helped beaten back coup attempts, they are ready for whatever it is they are being prepared for. There were a few rotations with different units returning to Libya and other units coming in to Central Africa, but they were Acehnese…”

“If I may, Mr. President”, interrupted Bongo “Perhaps our guest would like to know what your sources are.”

“Ah yes”, continued Sassou-Nguesso “My sympathies in this predicament lies with Bozize and I have people in his camp that provide me with information.”
Well, that explains. No need for Try and co. to go to CAR after all....

“Are the Acehnese still in Central Africa, Mr. President”, asked Try.

“Well, Mr. President, the most recent information I’ve got from Central Africa, at least from Bozize’s supporters, is that a coup attempt against Patasse is being contemplated”, replied Sassou-Nguesso “Precisely because they’re not there anymore. A unit has returned to Libya but another one has not been sent in its place.”

Try thought about this carefully…this was definitely information that he had come to get.
Well, really on "their way home", eh?
“So much for the Acehnese in Africa, now for the East Timorese in Africa”, Sassou Nguesso continued.

Try’s heart sank at this.
I mean, this is definitely Ramos Horta's doing. Not Xanana's idea despite i believe he would gives his greenlight on this.
“To the Republic of Congo’s south is Angola and the Angolans are participants both in the war currently happening in the other Congo and their own civil war which has gone on for decades”, said Sassou-Nguesso “And the Angolans have been using East Timorese as auxiliary forces, they’re coming into Angola from Mozambique. They are recruited in Mozambique and they have been getting both training and experience from the Angolan military.”

“How strong is the Angolan military?” asked Try.

“Capable of conducting numerous regional interventions at the same time, Mr. President” replied Sassou-Nguesso “I should know…they were the ones who installed me in my current position. They only just withdrew out of my country just months ago.”

Try tried to keep his head clear.

“Are the East Timorese still in Angola, Mr. President?” asked Try.

“Well, the Angolan Civil War is not over yet” replied Sassou-Nguesso “But the East Timorese will only be on board in Angola until July…after that they are departing back to Mozambique and that is the limits of my information.”

---
Try Three months from now
Stockholm, Sweden…
TVRI International beamed images of Try shaking hands with Sassou-Nguesso and hugging Bongo at the conclusion of their three-way conversation and then walking up the airplane stairs to board the Presidential Airplane.

“Do you suppose he’s aware of our existence?” asked the OPM’s Jacob Prai as he watched the screen “He’s sniffing around in the right places.”

“Only vaguely”, replied the Fretilin’s Jose Ramos Horta “They know we’re preparing something, but not precisely what...”

“They are in the dark”, interjected the GAM’s Abdullah Syafi’i “They don’t even realize we’ve been getting our men to move and take up their positions under the guise of participating in transmigration.”

“Well, they've caught on to the fact that you’re using fake ID cards”, said Prai.

“But they don’t see anything beyond that”, countered Syafi’i.

Ramos Horta watched as Try turned around at the top of the airplane stairs to wave at Bongo and Sassou-Nguesso. He smiled when he saw that there was something forced about Try’s smile and chuckled at the look on his face as he turned around to head in.

“You look worried…” said Ramos Horta “You should be worried…”
Would be funny to see Try going to Sweden right after Gabon, ahahahahaha.... f*ck.

Definitely the continuation of the ISA story is something i'm waiting for lol
 
Im not understanding why DRG winning will benefit Russia and China. I tried to read about this war and its a Rubik Cube, I don't understand anything.
However, Try securing Gabon and Congo (DRC immediate neighbors) its an interesting position, besides the intelligence assets. Who knows what opportunities can arise on the future.
 
252: BRICI Part I
23rd May 2003:
When his national anthem had been played and it was then his host’s turn to have her national anthem played, President Try Sutrisno felt like he was at a football match. But as he heard President of Brazil Roseana Sarney singing the anthem, he appreciated the fact that he was now in South America in the land of that continent’s most prominent nation Brazil and its capital city, Brazilia.

After the ceremony was over Try and Sarney went and had talks at one of the Alvorada’s many meeting rooms, the Brazilian Presidential Palace’s, meeting halls. Try conveyed his respects, saying that Brazil’s being the first host of BRICI speaks to its international stature. Sarney said that the most prosperous region in the world in the 21st century will be Asia which includes, Indonesia, India, and China but Brazil wants to have a say too. Sarney expressed her “belief” in a multipolar world though this did not necessarily mean taking on the United States, but rather more nations, because they have the strength or having become stronger, being able to have a say on international matters as well. Try said that whatever international order makes it possible for Indonesia to proceed with its free and active foreign policy was good for him.

There was a photo-op and a joint press conference afterwards. Try got a lot of question his way. One question asked whether Try would commit to joining the BRICI the way the other 4 leaders had done. Another asked whether as the most “western-friendly” of the 5 nations to attend the BRICI Informal Summit, the nation with whom the West has placed a moratorium on the payment of debt and to whom the United States and the United Kingdom had given a military aid package in January, Try was going into “unfriendly territory”.

To the first question, Try only said that Indonesia’s presence at Brasilia that very moment has got to count for something as far as Indonesia’s commitment to BRICI was concerned. To the second question, Try said that Indonesia’s foreign policy principle is a Free and Active foreign policy and reminded that in January, he also received $1 billion credit to purchase Russian weapons.

24th May 2003:
The morning saw Try and the Indonesian delegation went to the Palacio de Planalto. The Indonesian delegation consisted of Minister of Foreign Affairs Marzuki Darusman, Minister of Defense and Security Wiranto, Minister of Economics and National Development Planning Dorodjatun Kuntjoro-Jakti, Minister of Trade Anthony Salim, Minister of Industry Siswono Yudohusodo, Minister of Agriculture Sarwono Kusumaatmadja, and State Secretary Edi Sudrajat.

Sarney was accompanied by Minister of Foreign Affairs Celso Lafer, Minister of Defence Gleuber Vieira, Minister of Finance Gustavo Franco, Minister of Planning, Budget, and Management Sergio Amaral, Minister of Development, Industry and Trade Pedro Parente, Minister of Agriculture Carlos Melles, and Chief of Staff to the President Sarney Filho

The two delegations agreed on the following, among others:

*Anthony and Parente signed an MoU establishing cooperation between the two nation to look for ways to facilitate the availability of Indonesian FMCGs in Brazil. Speaking at a press conference afterwards, Anthony said that Brazil is a large market that Indonesian FMCGs could not afford to ignore.

*Sarwono and Melles signed two agreements between Indonesia and Brazil in agriculture. The first agreement commits Brazil to import fertilizers from Indonesia, in particular phosphate fertilizer from Petrokimia Gresik. The second agreement committed Indonesia to increase its imports of beef from Brazil. Sarwono explained to the Indonesian press this was do diversify so that Indonesia would not become overly reliant on, for example, Australian and New Zealand beef.

*Siswono and Parente signed an agreement for Indonesia and Brazil to jointly facilitate and fund exchange visits by delegations from the IPTN and Embraer. Siswono said that IPTN and Embraer are at similar stages of development and can learn from one another.

*Dorodjatun and Amaral signed an agreement for both governments to facilitate a Brazilian-Indonesian Chamber of Commerce.

*Wiranto and Vieira signed an agreement for both governments to facilitate exchange visits between the Indonesian Navy and the Brazilian Navy. Wiranto said afterwards that the Brazilian Navy is a Navy conducting coast guard duties, the Indonesian Navy is similar though there is a small “coast guard” under the Department of Transportation and that there is much to learn from each other as far what the organizational options and possibilities are.

*Marzuki and Lafer signed an MoU which commits both Indonesia and Brazil to promote cooperation in each’s respective regional organization, Indonesia in ASEAN and Brazil in the Mercosur. As a first step the aim is to organize an ASEAN-Mercosur Informal Ministerial Meeting.

25th May 2003:
After an easy morning and noon, this being a Sunday, after lunch Try, accompanied by Marzuki and Edi, was scheduled to meet the leader who had arrived in Brazil before Try, the meeting held at the Planalto once again. The cameras snapped and took pictures as Try shook hands with President of the People’s Republic of China Luo Gan. The cameramen then left and the doors were closed. Luo Gan was accompanied by Minister of Foreign Affairs Jia Chunwang.

Luo congratulated Try for “defusing” the situation in Thailand, pointing to Prime Minister of Thailand Thaksin Shinawatra backing down from wanting to appoint his cousin as Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Army and then settling with an appointee acceptable to both him and the Thai Army in the last few weeks. Luo mischievously said that it would have been a “sticky” situation had things been allowed to deteriorate.

Try replied by congratulating Luo for what had occurred in the months since the latter had taken over as general secretary in November; facilitating the opening of diplomatic relations between Myanmar and North Korea and more nations switching their diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China, most notably Costa Rica and Senegal and pushing more nations to make the switch.

“That China is advancing economically is obvious”, Try said “But what is even more obvious is that it is also advancing in power and influence.”

Luo chuckled at this.

“You speak eloquently about our progress, but these are empty words as far as I’m concerned”, Luo said causing Marzuki and Edi to wince “Your stance towards us has not changed.”

It was Try’s turn to chuckle now,

“And your stance towards us has not changed, Mr. President”, Try countered with a smile “Still attempting to control more seats around the ASEAN table, without having a seat at that table yourself.”

“And I suppose the Philippines is the United States’ effort at getting a seat at the ASEAN table?” Luo countered, a hint of fury behind his smile “Or is it only China that seeks to gain influence in ASEAN?”

Try did not answer as Luo pushed on.

“I don’t understand what precisely China has done to Indonesia to warrant this treatment”, Luo said, turning to Jia for support “I mean, we haven’t gotten in its way when it goes around looking to strengthen its military.”

Try winced at this.

“Our friends the Russians decides to give you $1 billion worth of credit to procure weapons and we don’t even raise a protest about it”, Luo continued, smiling when he saw that he struck a nerver “But when you, who has been and are so useful to the United States in the War on Terror, come to the United States and ask to procure certain weapons, others decide to disrupt the process not once but, the way things are looking, twice.”

“I had a similar conversation with your predecessor and it’s nice that you’re speaking from the same script”, Try said coldly “But should you be speaking about your coal supplier in this manner?”

“I am only speaking facts, am I not?” Luo said “You want to identify China as your main security threat and that’s fair enough, but do you think it’s safe to turn your back on Australia?”

Try had no answer.

“You have spent some time thinking about this dilemma, I see, ”, Luo said as he saw Try’s expression “Let me do my part to help you: whatever answer and whichever way you choose, I hope you will not put China in a position where it feels that its coal supply is under threat. We might just make common cause with Australia when it comes to dealing with you.”

Try kept a poker face at this. Which one was the bigger threat for Indonesia between China and Australia was one thing, but China and Australia joining hands so it can handle Indonesia…

Both Try and Luo then left Marzuki and Jia to discuss more technical details. Speaking only to express approval at what their ministers of foreign affairs agreed on: that when the WHO declares China to be SARS-free, Indonesia would immediately revoke its SARS-related precautions as it relates to China.

26th May 2003:
The BRICI unofficial summit got underway today at the Ulysses Guimares Convention Center in Brasilia. By this morning, both President of Russia Yevgeny Primakov and Prime Minister of India Atal Bihari Vajpayee had also arrived in Brasilia, the latter was especially happy to see Try. The five leaders sat around a round table with each respective delegates sitting on an outer circle mmediately behind the five leaders.

One by one, all of the leaders gathered made their speeches. Sarney spoke about how the leaders gathered represent the world’s five largest emerging economies.

Primakov, getting the most attention, won a round of applause when he said that he would not escalate Russian participation in assisting Yugoslavia beyond providing arms to Yugoslavia. Primakov said that the nations present are willing to continue and deepen economic ties with Russia was an important reason why he would not escalate Russian participation despite the “clear and unsanctioned” aggression being shown. To laughter, Primakov said that the United States and the West should be thanking BRICI for keeping Russia under control.

Vajpayee and Luo’s speech were parallels of their respective nations’ projected economic might in the 21st century. In their own ways, Vajpayee and Luo expressed India and China’s respective desires for a peaceful international environment to facilitate economic growth, India and China’s commitment to be responsible members of the international community, but also India and China’s desire to become more active and have more say in international affairs.

Try spoke last, calling himself the “least” in this grouping of emerging economies. He revisited the themes explored at the 2001 G-15 Summit which was hosted in Jakarta, namely about IMF conditionalities which nations in economic crises have to adhere to. Try said that leniency should be given so that in putting in place economic policies as part of the IMF’s conditionalities does not cause social unrest and that provided that the government in question is maintaining prudent fiscal and monetary policies, they should not be “pressured” to adhere to policy prescriptions on a “letter by letter” basis. Try called for the BRICI’s support in this, saying that Indonesia, Brazil, and Russia recovered from economic crises in 1998-1999 by departing from the IMF’s strict prescriptions but maintaining prudent economic management.

“Yes, I am saying this as someone who’s been given a moratorium on the payment of debt for 10 years”, Try said to some laugh from the audience.

“That’s part one done”, Marzuki said to Dorodjatun and Edi who were sitting beside him.

Part two waited until after lunch when the five leaders met again in a closed session, this time to finalize a text formally announcing the formation of BRICI. Having spoken last in the first session, Try this time had the chance to speak first.

“I thank the Federative Republic of Brazil and President Sarney for hosting this event and I congratulate BRICI for its impending formation”, Try said “At the same time, however, I respectfully decline this opportunity to speak just as I will, for the moment, pass on membership of BRICI. On the grounds that the occasion necessitating Indonesia’s membership of this organization has not occurred yet.”

The other four leaders then made speeches expressing their support for the formation of BRICI and their desire to become members. But once all have made their speeches, they immediately turned their attention to Try. At the leaders’ table, Sarney and Vajpayee immediately began persuading Try to reconsider his position. Around the leaders’ table, all the other delegations stared at the Indonesian delegation wondering what was going on. Primakov urged Indonesia to continue attending future summits even though it would not be a member. Try said that Indonesia will do that and remain committed to BRICI even though it was not a member.

The next question was in what capacity Indonesia will attend future BRICI Summits if not as a member. Try proposed that Indonesia attend an observer but this was unacceptable for Vajpayee and Sarney. Primakov proposed that Indonesia attend as an associate member but Try repeated that “for the moment, membership of BRICI” was not on the horizon.

From his corner of the leaders’ table, Luo kept quiet watching all this unfold. He had prepared a speech which would conclude with him declaring that China would only join BRICI if Indonesia would hold ASEAN+3 at the ASEAN Summit it was going to host that October and at future ASEAN Summits. The idea would be that the others at the table would pressure Indonesia to accept China’s demand so that they could have China with them at BRICI. But Try saying that he would not be a member rendered the speech moot.

Now Vajpayee proposed that Indonesia attend future BRICI summits as a dialogue partner and this time Try accepted. Sarney agreed, as did Primakov. And then everyone turned to Luo. Luo studied the expression on Try’s face, as though trying to guess his game.

“I believe it’s not a good start for this organization for a prospective core member to be ambiguous about it” Luo said, trying his luck “Either Indonesia will be a member or Indonesia will not be a member, it’s as simple as that. None of this “for the moment” nonsense.”

There was silence as Try and Luo stared each other down.

“Well, President Luo’, began Primakov “I believe even if Indonesia chooses to reject a BRICI membership, there must always still be a place for it in this organization. This organization’s basis is the fact that all of us here are the five largest emerging economies. If we have other nations join, that won’t work because it’s not going to be an organization with the largest emerging economies, is there?”

Luo’s glance bounced back and forth between Primakov and Try before he shifted in his seat and made his reply.

“I accept that Indonesia will for the moment, pass on membership of BRICI, and be a dialogue partner”, Luo replied, in tone which said that he did not necessarily approve but he was going along.

Not long after, the meeting ended. After the day’s sessions had finished, it fell to the ministers of foreign affairs to announced what had been agreed to that day while the rest of the delegations returned to their hotels. The organization would be known as BRIC with Indonesia as a dialogue partner rather than a member. Indonesia’s claim that it would not be a member “for the moment” and that the “occasion” for it to become a BRICI member had not arrived yet were repeated ad nauseam by Marzuki.

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And so Try has officially touched down at all continents during his presidency.

The gap between ITTL IPTN and Embraer are probably not as big as in OTL. The big surprise for me doing research for this chapter is that after the OTL IPTN was drastically cut down as a result of the IMF’s requests in 1998, some of its engineers moved to Embraer https://www.alinea.id/nasional/n-250-dan-mimpi-habibie-yang-dibunuh-imf-b1Xm89nmX

Try’s stance towards BRICI and why he chose to take such a stance will be further elaborated in the next few chapters.
 
Hoh ? That's a new President of Brazil I see.
Venezuela's 2002 coup succeeds in overthrowing Chavez. In Brazil, Lula leads the attack against the United States but unlike in OTL, he doesn't drift to the center and tries to present himself as being friendly towards businesses and market. He gets beaten by Sarney in the presidential elections.
 
Venezuela's 2002 coup succeeds in overthrowing Chavez. In Brazil, Lula leads the attack against the United States but unlike in OTL, he doesn't drift to the center and tries to present himself as being friendly towards businesses and market. He gets beaten by Sarney in the presidential elections.
Ok then. Honestly, I have zero clue about South American politics. However, within a decade, there would be the scandal of Operation Car Wash and Odebrecht case looming upon the governments there if it follows like OTL track.
 
Venezuela's 2002 coup succeeds in overthrowing Chavez. In Brazil, Lula leads the attack against the United States but unlike in OTL, he doesn't drift to the center and tries to present himself as being friendly towards businesses and market. He gets beaten by Sarney in the presidential elections.
To be honest...the fact that Sarney decided to hold a BRICI summit does perplexed me at first...(due to reason I could not really capable to explain it in readable terms, perhaps Brazilian members @Aluma, @Taunay and @Vinization could put it in better terms than me....)

But then rereading this particular part struck me...
The next question was in what capacity Indonesia will attend future BRICI Summits if not as a member. Try proposed that Indonesia attend an observer but this was unacceptable for Vajpayee and Sarney. Primakov proposed that Indonesia attend as an associate member but Try repeated that “for the moment, membership of BRICI” was not on the horizon.

Of course they in particular(since they are relatively more pro-America than the rest) want to have Indonesia to be a part of BRICI....since it would steer the grouping into adopting policies that has a less anti-American stance).




Try’s stance towards BRICI and why he chose to take such a stance will be further elaborated in the next few chapters.
To be honest...I would expect Try opt-outing the BRICI is his Indonesian way to pursue it's neutrality in the geopolitical sense...
 
23rd May 2003:
When his national anthem had been played and it was then his host’s turn to have her national anthem played, President Try Sutrisno felt like he was at a football match. But as he heard President of Brazil Roseana Sarney singing the anthem, he appreciated the fact that he was now in South America in the land of that continent’s most prominent nation Brazil and its capital city, Brazilia.

After the ceremony was over Try and Sarney went and had talks at one of the Alvorada’s many meeting rooms, the Brazilian Presidential Palace’s, meeting halls. Try conveyed his respects, saying that Brazil’s being the first host of BRICI speaks to its international stature. Sarney said that the most prosperous region in the world in the 21st century will be Asia which includes, Indonesia, India, and China but Brazil wants to have a say too. Sarney expressed her “belief” in a multipolar world though this did not necessarily mean taking on the United States, but rather more nations, because they have the strength or having become stronger, being able to have a say on international matters as well. Try said that whatever international order makes it possible for Indonesia to proceed with its free and active foreign policy was good for him.
Decisive actions against reactionaries are good, but common understanding and cooperation is a better way as a step towards a saner world. And yeah, multipolarism without a clear cut from the two emerging blocs is overall a positive trend in my eyes.
There was a photo-op and a joint press conference afterwards. Try got a lot of question his way. One question asked whether Try would commit to joining the BRICI the way the other 4 leaders had done. Another asked whether as the most “western-friendly” of the 5 nations to attend the BRICI Informal Summit, the nation with whom the West has placed a moratorium on the payment of debt and to whom the United States and the United Kingdom had given a military aid package in January, Try was going into “unfriendly territory”.
Lol, Brazil is not?
To the first question, Try only said that Indonesia’s presence at Brasilia that very moment has got to count for something as far as Indonesia’s commitment to BRICI was concerned. To the second question, Try said that Indonesia’s foreign policy principle is a Free and Active foreign policy and reminded that in January, he also received $1 billion credit to purchase Russian weapons.
Nice one, Try.

24th May 2003:

The morning saw Try and the Indonesian delegation went to the Palacio de Planalto. The Indonesian delegation consisted of Minister of Foreign Affairs Marzuki Darusman, Minister of Defense and Security Wiranto, Minister of Economics and National Development Planning Dorodjatun Kuntjoro-Jakti, Minister of Trade Anthony Salim, Minister of Industry Siswono Yudohusodo, Minister of Agriculture Sarwono Kusumaatmadja, and State Secretary Edi Sudrajat.

Sarney was accompanied by Minister of Foreign Affairs Celso Lafer, Minister of Defence Gleuber Vieira, Minister of Finance Gustavo Franco, Minister of Planning, Budget, and Management Sergio Amaral, Minister of Development, Industry and Trade Pedro Parente, Minister of Agriculture Carlos Melles, and Chief of Staff to the President Sarney Filho

The two delegations agreed on the following, among others:

*Anthony and Parente signed an MoU establishing cooperation between the two nation to look for ways to facilitate the availability of Indonesian FMCGs in Brazil. Speaking at a press conference afterwards, Anthony said that Brazil is a large market that Indonesian FMCGs could not afford to ignore.
Let's go, Salim!!!!
*Sarwono and Melles signed two agreements between Indonesia and Brazil in agriculture. The first agreement commits Brazil to import fertilizers from Indonesia, in particular phosphate fertilizer from Petrokimia Gresik. The second agreement committed Indonesia to increase its imports of beef from Brazil. Sarwono explained to the Indonesian press this was to diversify so that Indonesia would not become overly reliant on, for example, Australian and New Zealand beef.
I have an expectation that Reith is expecting this one.
*Siswono and Parente signed an agreement for Indonesia and Brazil to jointly facilitate and fund exchange visits by delegations from the IPTN and Embraer. Siswono said that IPTN and Embraer are at similar stages of development and can learn from one another.
IIRC a few IPTN engines ended up there after the Krismon? *shrugs
*Dorodjatun and Amaral signed an agreement for both governments to facilitate a Brazilian-Indonesian Chamber of Commerce.
Nice
*Wiranto and Vieira signed an agreement for both governments to facilitate exchange visits between the Indonesian Navy and the Brazilian Navy. Wiranto said afterwards that the Brazilian Navy is a Navy conducting coast guard duties, the Indonesian Navy is similar though there is a small “coast guard” under the Department of Transportation and that there is much to learn from each other as far what the organizational options and possibilities are.
Oh? I've already thought that the Coast Guards has already placed under the Indonesian Navy....
*Marzuki and Lafer signed an MoU which commits both Indonesia and Brazil to promote cooperation in each’s respective regional organization, Indonesia in ASEAN and Brazil in the Mercosur. As a first step the aim is to organize an ASEAN-Mercosur Informal Ministerial Meeting.
Well, talking about "Morales' Bolivia getting some suggestions about how to responsibly manage their economies from Try's Indonesia".....

25th May 2003:
After an easy morning and noon, this being a Sunday, after lunch Try, accompanied by Marzuki and Edi, was scheduled to meet the leader who had arrived in Brazil before Try, the meeting held at the Planalto once again. The cameras snapped and took pictures as Try shook hands with President of the People’s Republic of China Luo Gan. The cameramen then left and the doors were closed. Luo Gan was accompanied by Minister of Foreign Affairs Jia Chunwang.

Luo congratulated Try for “defusing” the situation in Thailand, pointing to Prime Minister of Thailand Thaksin Shinawatra backing down from wanting to appoint his cousin as Commander in Chief of the Royal Thai Army and then settling with an appointee acceptable to both him and the Thai Army in the last few weeks. Luo mischievously said that it would have been a “sticky” situation had things been allowed to deteriorate.
Ahahahaha.... *forced laughs
Try replied by congratulating Luo for what had occurred in the months since the latter had taken over as general secretary in November; facilitating the opening of diplomatic relations between Myanmar and North Korea and more nations switching their diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to China, most notably Costa Rica and Senegal and pushing more nations to make the switch.
Yeah...
“That China is advancing economically is obvious”, Try said “But what is even more obvious is that it is also advancing in power and influence.”

Luo chuckled at this.

“You speak eloquently about our progress, but these are empty words as far as I’m concerned”, Luo said causing Marzuki and Edi to wince “Your stance towards us has not changed.”

It was Try’s turn to chuckle now,

“And your stance towards us has not changed, Mr. President”, Try countered with a smile “Still attempting to control more seats around the ASEAN table, without having a seat at that table yourself.”

“And I suppose the Philippines is the United States’ effort at getting a seat at the ASEAN table?” Luo countered, a hint of fury behind his smile “Or is it only China that seeks to gain influence in ASEAN?”
Lol, still seeing Indonesia as a mere pawn, eh? Looks like McCain and his supporters aren't the only ones that saw the trend as the Second Cold War instead of Primakov's Multipolar Moment.
Try did not answer as Luo pushed on.

“I don’t understand what precisely China has done to Indonesia to warrant this treatment”, Luo said, turning to Jia for support “I mean, we haven’t gotten in its way when it goes around looking to strengthen its military.”

Try winced at this.

“Our friends the Russians decides to give you $1 billion worth of credit to procure weapons and we don’t even raise a protest about it”, Luo continued, smiling when he saw that he struck a nerve “But when you, who has been and are so useful to the United States in the War on Terror, come to the United States and ask to procure certain weapons, others decide to disrupt the process not once but, the way things are looking, twice.”
Ah, the Aussies.
“I had a similar conversation with your predecessor and it’s nice that you’re speaking from the same script”, Try said coldly “But should you be speaking about your coal supplier in this manner?”
Lol
“I am only speaking facts, am I not?” Luo said “You want to identify China as your main security threat and that’s fair enough, but do you think it’s safe to turn your back on Australia?”

Try had no answer.

“You have spent some time thinking about this dilemma, I see, ”, Luo said as he saw Try’s expression “Let me do my part to help you: whatever answer and whichever way you choose, I hope you will not put China in a position where it feels that its coal supply is under threat. We might just make common cause with Australia when it comes to dealing with you.”

Try kept a poker face at this. Which one was the bigger threat for Indonesia between China and Australia was one thing, but China and Australia joining hands so it can handle Indonesia…
And Pakistan too, for that matter.
Both Try and Luo then left Marzuki and Jia to discuss more technical details. Speaking only to express approval at what their ministers of foreign affairs agreed on: that when the WHO declares China to be SARS-free, Indonesia would immediately revoke its SARS-related precautions as it relates to China.
Only fair for that one, it seems.

26th May 2003:

The BRICI unofficial summit got underway today at the Ulysses Guimares Convention Center in Brasilia. By this morning, both President of Russia Yevgeny Primakov and Prime Minister of India Atal Bihari Vajpayee had also arrived in Brasilia, the latter was especially happy to see Try. The five leaders sat around a round table with each respective delegates sitting on an outer circle immediately behind the five leaders.

One by one, all of the leaders gathered made their speeches. Sarney spoke about how the leaders gathered represent the world’s five largest emerging economies.

Primakov, getting the most attention, won a round of applause when he said that he would not escalate Russian participation in assisting Yugoslavia beyond providing arms to Yugoslavia. Primakov said that the nations present are willing to continue and deepen economic ties with Russia was an important reason why he would not escalate Russian participation despite the “clear and unsanctioned” aggression being shown. To laughter, Primakov said that the United States and the West should be thanking BRICI for keeping Russia under control.
I mean, as long as United States (and Australia) are busy....
Vajpayee and Luo’s speech were parallels of their respective nations’ projected economic might in the 21st century. In their own ways, Vajpayee and Luo expressed India and China’s respective desires for a peaceful international environment to facilitate economic growth, India and China’s commitment to be responsible members of the international community, but also India and China’s desire to become more active and have more say in international affairs.
Spot on.
Try spoke last, calling himself the “least” in this grouping of emerging economies. He revisited the themes explored at the 2001 G-15 Summit which was hosted in Jakarta, namely about IMF conditionalities which nations in economic crises have to adhere to. Try said that leniency should be given so that in putting in place economic policies as part of the IMF’s conditionalities does not cause social unrest and that provided that the government in question is maintaining prudent fiscal and monetary policies, they should not be “pressured” to adhere to policy prescriptions on a “letter by letter” basis. Try called for the BRICI’s support in this, saying that Indonesia, Brazil, and Russia recovered from economic crises in 1998-1999 by departing from the IMF’s strict prescriptions but maintaining prudent economic management.

“Yes, I am saying this as someone who’s been given a moratorium on the payment of debt for 10 years”, Try said to some laugh from the audience.
IMF needs to calm down, indeed. Poor Turkey.
“That’s part one done”, Marzuki said to Dorodjatun and Edi who were sitting beside him.

Part two waited until after lunch when the five leaders met again in a closed session, this time to finalize a text formally announcing the formation of BRICI. Having spoken last in the first session, Try this time had the chance to speak first.
Yes, let the Garuda soar by joini-
“I thank the Federative Republic of Brazil and President Sarney for hosting this event and I congratulate BRICI for its impending formation”, Try said “At the same time, however, I respectfully decline this opportunity to speak just as I will, for the moment, pass on membership of BRICI. On the grounds that the occasion necessitating Indonesia’s membership of this organization has not occurred yet.”
Wait, what?
The other four leaders then made speeches expressing their support for the formation of BRICI and their desire to become members. But once all have made their speeches, they immediately turned their attention to Try. At the leaders’ table, Sarney and Vajpayee immediately began persuading Try to reconsider his position. Around the leaders’ table, all the other delegations stared at the Indonesian delegation wondering what was going on. Primakov urged Indonesia to continue attending future summits even though it would not be a member. Try said that Indonesia will do that and remain committed to BRICI even though it was not a member.

The next question was in what capacity Indonesia will attend future BRICI Summits if not as a member. Try proposed that Indonesia attend an observer but this was unacceptable for Vajpayee and Sarney. Primakov proposed that Indonesia attend as an associate member but Try repeated that “for the moment, membership of BRICI” was not on the horizon.
Sarney and Vajpayee really needs Try to balance out both Luo and Primakov, eh?.
From his corner of the leaders’ table, Luo kept quiet watching all this unfold. He had prepared a speech which would conclude with him declaring that China would only join BRICI if Indonesia would hold ASEAN+3 at the ASEAN Summit it was going to host that October and at future ASEAN Summits. The idea would be that the others at the table would pressure Indonesia to accept China’s demand so that they could have China with them at BRICI. But Try saying that he would not be a member rendered the speech moot.
Ha, sucks on that.
Now Vajpayee proposed that Indonesia attend future BRICI summits as a dialogue partner and this time Try accepted. Sarney agreed, as did Primakov. And then everyone turned to Luo. Luo studied the expression on Try’s face, as though trying to guess his game.

“I believe it’s not a good start for this organization for a prospective core member to be ambiguous about it” Luo said, trying his luck “Either Indonesia will be a member or Indonesia will not be a member, it’s as simple as that. None of this “for the moment” nonsense.”

There was silence as Try and Luo stared each other down.
Lol, Luo is really pushing his luck there.
“Well, President Luo’, began Primakov “I believe even if Indonesia chooses to reject a BRICI membership, there must always still be a place for it in this organization. This organization’s basis is the fact that all of us here are the five largest emerging economies. If we have other nations join, that won’t work because it’s not going to be an organization with the largest emerging economies, is there?”
Hehe
Luo’s glance bounced back and forth between Primakov and Try before he shifted in his seat and made his reply.

“I accept that Indonesia will for the moment, pass on membership of BRICI, and be a dialogue partner”, Luo replied, in tone which said that he did not necessarily approve but he was going along.
Awokawokawokawok
Not long after, the meeting ended. After the day’s sessions had finished, it fell to the ministers of foreign affairs to announced what had been agreed to that day while the rest of the delegations returned to their hotels. The organization would be known as BRIC with Indonesia as a dialogue partner rather than a member. Indonesia’s claim that it would not be a member “for the moment” and that the “occasion” for it to become a BRICI member had not arrived yet were repeated ad nauseam by Marzuki.
Well, well, now i get it. So it seems Indonesia wanted to keep her head above this factional matters in the geopolitical sense, eh?

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And so Try has officially touched down at all continents during his presidency.
Congratulations!
The gap between ITTL IPTN and Embraer are probably not as big as in OTL. The big surprise for me doing research for this chapter is that after the OTL IPTN was drastically cut down as a result of the IMF’s requests in 1998, some of its engineers moved to Embraer https://www.alinea.id/nasional/n-250-dan-mimpi-habibie-yang-dibunuh-imf-b1Xm89nmX
Yeah, my hunch above is correct.
Try’s stance towards BRICI and why he chose to take such a stance will be further elaborated in the next few chapters.
Well, well, let's hope something bad is not going to interrupt it (i hope Akbar got Sintong's message, and i waited with a bated breath for ISA).
 
Lol, Brazil is not?
Well OTL Lula's Brazil is not that western friendly....however TTL Brazil, especially the one under the much more Centrão friendly Sarney...yeah...I would argue that Sarney would be more pro-America than Try (and much more when compared to Vajpayee)...
Well, talking about "Morales' Bolivia getting some suggestions about how to responsibly manage their economies from Try's Indonesia".....
Actually looking back at the OTL 2002 election, in particular the legislative side(yes, I had to use the Spanish version of the wiki), I guess Morales's MAS-IPSP performed well enough (let's say 40 seats) that even the MIR members in Congress decided to vote for Morales for the presidency then...(since if there are no candidate achieve (the unachivable in 2002 with 4 candidates that had double digit OTL) 50% in the popular vote, the presidency vote would be decided by the Congress). To be honest, even if Morales is president ITTL, I pretty sure Morales had a more difficult path to implement its policies whe even compared to Thaksin....

P/s:
However, within a decade, there would be the scandal of Operation Car Wash and Odebrecht case looming upon the governments there if it follows like OTL track.
Let's see, I am not sure this Brazil would follows OTL track. But one thing for sure, TTL Brazil would probably have policies that would make the IMF grinning with a smug....
While we are in Brazil, I am quite surprised that there isn't any MOU signed between Pertamina and Petrobras in terms of oil exploration...
 
Well OTL Lula's Brazil is not that western friendly....however TTL Brazil, especially the one under the much more Centrão friendly Sarney...yeah...I would argue that Sarney would be more pro-America than Try (and much more when compared to Vajpayee)...
That's what i meant. In terms of the friendliness of BRICI towards USA, i would put them like this from friendliest to the least: Brazil, India, Indonesia, Russia, China

Actually looking back at the OTL 2002 election, in particular the legislative side(yes, I had to use the Spanish version of the wiki), I guess Morales's MAS-IPSP performed well enough (let's say 40 seats) that even the MIR members in Congress decided to vote for Morales for the presidency then...(since if there are no candidate achieve (the unachivable in 2002 with 4 candidates that had double digit OTL) 50% in the popular vote, the presidency vote would be decided by the Congress). To be honest, even if Morales is president ITTL, I pretty sure Morales had a more difficult path to implement its policies whe even compared to Thaksin....
I mean....
25th January 2003:
“I don’t see strings in this, Mr. President, I only see the this as a reflection of where we have positioned ourselves in relation to them”, replied Ginandjar “We’re still a useful ally to have in the War on Terror and we’re in all but the name the leader in the Southeast Asian region. And while our opinion will differ on Yugoslavia, we haven’t positioned ourselves as an anti-American country the way Bolivia has since Morales came to power last August.”
Yeah... but i can also see Morales being held back by the parliament.
 
Man Luo Gan truly more aggresdive than Hu Jintao
I still do not believe China internal issue still resolved because on OTL Hu Jintao with all of his powerand authority only doing pardon me minor large internadional movement.
 
How's Jonggol doing ITTL?

The West Javan village was designated to be developed into an independent city (Kotapraja) since January 1997. Rumors said that the city is going to be designated as the next Capital City of Indonesia.
 
How's Jonggol doing ITTL?

The West Javan village was designated to be developed into an independent city (Kotapraja) since January 1997. Rumors said that the city is going to be designated as the next Capital City of Indonesia.
Yup one Suharto and Suhartois grandplan
sadly it is not feasible because City in Java have little Developmant potential unless you transmigrate majority of citizens on it
IMHO Pak Tri will still move Capital and Centre of Government in Kalimantan
 
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