Good King George - A Republican Britain and a Monarchist America

Would you like to see

  • More of the United Commonwealth

    Votes: 21 10.8%
  • United Provinces of America

    Votes: 115 59.0%
  • Patagonia

    Votes: 18 9.2%
  • European Affairs

    Votes: 41 21.0%

  • Total voters
    195
A total reorganization of the Realm into a federal state along the lines of the United Provinces, with Portugal, Lesser Sunda, Cape Verde, Guinea. Sao tome and Principe and Macau becoming states, and Brazil being divided up into several.

It's a controversial proposal as it's viewed by many as disrupting the unity of the Realm.
The OTL Portuguese imperial structure thinks in states anyway but it wasn't a federal system. A Portuguese state is similar to a UK constituent country. Calling its units states is within constitutionalism. As to whether it should be federal or not in TTL is their choice, the OTL Canadian monarchy is federal, the UK is devolved. But making TTL Amazonas a state within the UK might make some sense imo.
 
2021 General Election
Election Night 2021
"What we have here appears to be the first Conservative majority win since the 1988 election under the Earl of Greenwich, George Bush" - Wolf Blitzer.


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The 2021 United Provinces general election was held on Friday, May 28th, 2021to elect 700 members to the House of Commons. However, the selection of Friday proved controversial in certain circles as election day is a bank holiday, and in selecting the Friday, Bakerenforced a long weekend, an act perceived by many as a cynical move to gain public support.

Polls and commentators predicted the outcome would be a second consecutive hung parliament, and leaders from within the Conservative and Labour parties had already begun reaching out to minor parties before the election to discuss supply agreements; Baker and Trudeau had allegedly already agreed to continue the coalition if need. It was these polls that had led to Prime Minister Baker never calling an early election during the coalition government as had been expected. Despite this, the Conservatives outperformed the polls, winning 353 seats and 38.2% of the vote share. Once Elinor Carbone was appointed speaker of the House, this would give the Conservatives a razor-thin two-seat majority in the Commons, allowing them to govern alone.

The Labour Party, led by Julian Castro, who had succeeded Lady Spencer following her resignation after the 2016 general election, saw a decrease in vote share and returned only 290 MPs, their first sub-300 performance since 1983. Labour placed much of the blame on the strong performance of the Green and Whig parties, a sentiment firmly rejected by both, as well as a failure to reclaim lost ground in Quebec against the UdF. Castro would resign the following day, triggering a still ongoing Leadership election. The primaries paused after the attacks on September 21st.

The Union des Francophones, led by outgoing Deputy Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, saw little change in its share of the vote and managed to pick up another seat in Louisiana. While the surprise Conservative majority meant the end of the official coalition, Trudeau and Baker would agree to a supply and confidence arrangement shortly after the election in exchange for further funding to French schools to shore up the Government position in the Commons.

The Green Party won its highest-ever vote share with 7.4% and its highest seat count, gaining an additional 12 seats. Much of this success was credited to the defection to, and later leadership of, the Party by former Prime Minister Al Gore. Who, as Earl of Carthage, led the Party from the House of Lords. Having entered into a public feud with Castro in 2017 over what Gore saw as a failure to act on environmental issues, he resigned his membership in 2020. He soon after joined the Greens, being named party leader in the December of that year by acclamation.

The Whig Party, though only seeing a minor increase in its voter share, saw a tripling of MPs thanks partly to vote splitting between Labour and the Greens and Mike Thompson's widely praised performance in the second debate. This election would help cement the centrist Whig Party as a significant force in American politics. This fact was made more apparent when it won control of the Province of Connecticut later that October.

The right-wing populist Unity party saw its vote share decline, and its seat count nearly cut in half. This would be blamed on party leader Jim DeMint's vocal support for using military force to achieve the Reunification of the Realm during the debates, a position unanimously denounced by other party leaders. After the election, he refused to resign and had to be removed from the post by a leadership spill in August. He now serves as an independent after being suspended from the Party.









Decide on our labour leader from our two frontrunners.

 
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The OTL Portuguese imperial structure thinks in states anyway but it wasn't a federal system. A Portuguese state is similar to a UK constituent country. Calling its units states is within constitutionalism. As to whether it should be federal or not in TTL is their choice, the OTL Canadian monarchy is federal, the UK is devolved. But making TTL Amazonas a state within the UK might make some sense imo.
Oh, also, naturally, OTL Portugal sees (or at least saw) herself as a transcontinental and unitary country rather than Portugal proper that built an empire around herself.
 
Is there a reason why Liechtenstein and Luxembourg didn't join the German Confederation?

Having just been restored to the map after more than a century of French rule, Luxembourg elected to retain its independence. Though would, with the Dutch Republic, Germany, Slovenia, the Nordic Federation, and Poland, form the Zollverein shortly after German unification. I'll be getting into that soon!

As for Liechtenstein, they didn't send anyone to the conferences, And when the time came to sign on the dotted line.... again, no one turned up. So Liechtenstein continued independence is more of a case of forgetting to turn in a form than anything else. By the time any real thought was given to joining, the tiny nation was starting to find all manner of ways to profit from its sovereignty.

The OTL Portuguese imperial structure thinks in states anyway but it wasn't a federal system. A Portuguese state is similar to a UK constituent country. Calling its units states is within constitutionalism. As to whether it should be federal or not in TTL is their choice, the OTL Canadian monarchy is federal, the UK is devolved. But making TTL Amazonas a state within the UK might make some sense imo.
Oh, also, naturally, OTL Portugal sees (or at least saw) herself as a transcontinental and unitary country rather than Portugal proper that built an empire around herself.

Indeed they did! Many supporters of the federalist movement use that old system as proof they are merely returning to a glorious past than anything else. After the formation of the Union, Portugal slowly began to centralize power. As a result of that vision of herself as a transcontinental and unitary state, there was little need to devolve power down, at least in the mind of Lisbon. While this initially angered some in Brazil, once full voting rights were granted, Portugal proper lost control of the beast she had built.

The Federalist camp is pretty divided in what system to adopt, though, either a full federal model (Amazonas as a state etc.). Or something akin to the OTL UK, granting everything that isn't Brazil autonomy as devolved constituent countries within the Union. The issue with that is the King feels very strongly that it would be treason and a violation of his oath to keep "The Kingdom One and United."
 
Alright, Pete, a devolved system that is made up of states (Amazonas, Portugal, Lesser Sunda, etc.) is one and united 😂

You'd be right! And he would vocally disagree with you. At the moment, he's on damage control after that leaked recording of him!

I'd kinda like to get a glimpse of what pop culture ITTL is like. Right now I'm particularly wondering about this universe's counterpart to The Beatles?

I have some ideas for that coming up very soon! Anything you'd like to see in particular?
 
The Government of the Roman Papal Republic
The Government of the Roman Papal Republic
"I'm sorry, I think I passed out there for a moment. You said your Government works how?"
Average Briton after claiming to a Roman that the British Government is oddly designed
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The Government of the Roman Papal Republic
"I'm sorry, I think I passed out there for a moment. You said your Government works how?"
Average Briton after claiming to a Roman that the British Government is oddly designed
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Goals
 
Having just been restored to the map after more than a century of French rule, Luxembourg elected to retain its independence. Though would, with the Dutch Republic, Germany, Slovenia, the Nordic Federation, and Poland, form the Zollverein shortly after German unification. I'll be getting into that soon!
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it seems interesting that Hungary isn't in the Zollverein while neighboring countries like Slovenia and Poland are. Is there a particular reason for this, or am I overanalyzing?

I've also been wondering, without the Soviet Union ever existing, were there ever any communist or socialist states ITTL? If not, what's the current status of those ideologies?
 
Well, the flow chart doesn't look like a plate of spaghetti, so there's that.
I honestly don't think its convoluted.

Oh, it's pretty basic, don't worry; I have a way more convoluted system of Government coming up for another nation that will very much look like a plate of spaghetti that just spilled out of someone's pocket.

The shock is the whole Pope thing for most people.

That’s definitely a unique form of government. How did it come about?

I'll show more on this later, primarily due to compromise. After the war, the allies didn't really want to give Rome to Italy, which had backed Napoleon, or to the South, which had done the same, even if by force. So instead restored it to the Papacy and called it a day. Over the decades since, the Pope has been forced to give more and more power to the public. Hence the rather rudimentary yet... strange system,

Just four years ago, the Pope consented to create a Supreme Court outside, further limiting his power.

They call that a republic?

Well, it is, and it isn't!

I mean, it's as much a republic as Iran is IOTL, so...
Both OTL Holy See and Tibet are elective monarchies and even the elective Kingdom of Poland is referred to as a republic.
Holy See (also Tibet, thought I am not as sure about that) never claimed to be or was referred to as a Republic.

(True about Poland tho)

Ah, Poland, she'll have an odd system I'll show off soon!

Technically, the Holy See remains the unchanged theocratic absolute monarchy it always has been, and it just has to run a city-state that is increasingly lukewarm about it.

As for Tibet. She has a Prime Minister, a President, and a Dali Lama. So make of that what you will.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it seems interesting that Hungary isn't in the Zollverein while neighboring countries like Slovenia and Poland are. Is there a particular reason for this, or am I overanalyzing?

I've also been wondering, without the Soviet Union ever existing, were there ever any communist or socialist states ITTL? If not, what's the current status of those ideologies?

She'll be a part of a Russian-led Eastern Compact, as a result of it being Russian troops that liberated her at the end of the war. And as a comprise for allowing Hungary to retain control of "Our Slavic Brothers," Hungary does want to leave the compact and join what the Zollverein has become in 2022. But that would be a spoiler.

A few existed in Latin America, and China was partly under communist rule in the 1950s during a brief Civil War. Communism, for the most part, is not viewed all that seriously, and given its history of failed attempts at state takeover, it is a somewhat discounted force. That said, socialism is much more widespread. The American Labour party of 2022 is similar to the British Labour party of the 1940s and talks frequently about industry nationalization. Something that here doesn't get you laughed out of the room. Until Nixon began selling them off, the American Government owned quite a lot of stuff, from steel mills to rail lines to defence companies.
 
I have some ideas for that coming up very soon! Anything you'd like to see in particular?
Hmm, namely things that I figure would be most affected by the implications of the First British Civil War, like the aforementioned Beatles or anything to do with what OTL calls BBC. Is ABC this universe's counterpart to the former, and does the United Commonwealth have their own counterpart if so?
 
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