Geronimo : What if Osama Bin Laden was killed prior to 9/11?

Postal 2 relies heavily on Bush Era trends, so probably not, lol.

Manhunt is still a likely thing. Don't see why it would get butterflied in a no-9/11 timeline.
This reminds me, here's a list of games that were affected by the September 11th Attacks
Grand Theft Auto III - The paint scheme of Liberty City's police cars were changed from a blue-and-white design based on the NYPD to a standard black-and-white design, other changes include altering AI plane flight paths which went near skyscrapers, the ability to blow up airplanes with a rocket launcher, a few lines of pedestrian dialogue, talk radio, and the narration in the game's intro which mentioned dead police officers and terrorists. And the ability to shoot off NPC limbs was reduced to a unlockable cheat. Rockstar actually thought off cancelling the game after 9/11 believe or not, this didn't help due to the fact that their offices in NYC were a couple blocks north of Ground Zero. Also you know the famous GTA cover style with shots of the characters and what not? That would never exist without 9/11. The original cover featured large amounts of explosions which Rockstar thought was two sensitive.
Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro - The final level of the game took place on top of the Twin Towers, this changed to a generic pair of buildings with a bridge added in between, there was also a cutscene that would've taken place after the fight with Thor and Spider-Man. Other alterations were changed level names to avoid potentially insensitive references.
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem - There was going to be a playable character named Joseph De Molay, a Templar Knight during the crusades and textures that had Arabic writing were cut.
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty - There was a cutscene of Arsenal Gear, a giant mobile fortress, dislocating the Statue of Liberty and crashing into Lower Manhattan as well as a newscast showing the Statue of Liberty now resting at Ellis Island, and a scene where Solidus Snake shreds the New York Stock Exchange Flag with his sword during Arsenal Gears crash and the fall of said flag over his body after his death, American flags on all the flagpoles in New York were removed, and finally, Raiden's name was changed from katakana to kanji due to the former form of the name resembling "Bin Laden" in Japanese.
Propeller Arena - The game was completed but was cancelled and never released, the game is about dogfighting in planes and one level takes place around a city of skyscrapers based on New York.
Savage Skies - The game was originally conceived as a licensed tie-in-game endorsed by Ozzy Osbourne called Ozzy's Black Skies, but due to licensing issues and the impact of 9/11 caused the developers to rework the game and remove the Osbourne branding.
Tony Hawk's Pro-Skater 3 - In the Airport level where the player had to stop pick pocketers, they were originally terrorists.
 
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Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty - There was a cutscene of Arsenal Gear, a giant mobile fortress, dislocating the Statue of Liberty and crashing into Lower Manhattan as well as a newscast showing the Statue of Liberty now resting at Ellis Island, and a scene where the antagonist Solidus Snake shreds the New York Stock Exchange Flag with his sword during Arsenal Gears crash and the fall of said flag over his body after his death, American flags on all the flagpoles in New York were removed, and finally, Raiden's name was changed from katakana to kanji due to the former form of the name resembling "Bin Laden" in Japanese.
Sons of Liberty is probably one of the greatest games ever made, so the idea of it being even cooler is great news. :p
 
Time Magazine - March 27th, 2006
Time Magazine - March 27th, 2006

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I think people are vastly overrating the impact of the September 4th attacks in this thread -- while it's no doubt a tragedy -- people placing it on the level of 9/11 don't really know what they're talking about. The 9/4 attacks and 9/11 are definitely similar in their execution when it comes to attack of civillian infastructure, they both have completely different outcomes.
 
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I think people are vastly overrating the impact of the September 9th attacks in this thread
September 9th attacks? Don't you mean the September 4th attacks?
9/4 is probably only going to be viewed as a minor terrorist attack that doesn't really affect anything longterm, in my opinion
Given that this timeline's version of the War on Terror has Russia at the helm, you're probably right.
 
9/4 is probably only going to be viewed as a minor terrorist attack that doesn't really affect anything longterm, in my opinion

Exactly. What a lot of people don't realize is that a huge part of what made 9/11 so shocking and era-defining is the fact that it happened on U.S. soil.

Before 9/11, most Americans thought that major terrorist attacks were something that could only happen "over there". We thought that, with the Soviet Union gone, there was no great enemy to fear anymore.

When 9/11 happened, that mindset went away instantly. We feared that if such a devastating attack could happen here, it could happen anywhere.

There is a reason why it's called the "post-9/11 era".
 
Exactly. What a lot of people don't realize is that a huge part of what made 9/11 so shocking and era-defining is the fact that it happened on U.S. soil.

Before 9/11, most Americans thought that major terrorist attacks were something that could only happen "over there". We thought that, with the Soviet Union gone, there was no great enemy to fear anymore.

When 9/11 happened, that mindset went away instantly. We feared that if such a devastating attack could happen here, it could happen anywhere.

There is a reason why it's called the "post-9/11 era".
Absolutely. Without 9/11 we're still in the mindset of "that can't happen here" and that there's no real threat to the United States that exists.
 
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Just found an interesting history facts
Maybe TTL 2007, there's a small fire occured in one of the towers of World Trade Center, with no casualites, same as OTL Ostankino tower?

Disclaimer: I'm not telling what Iwanh to do on his TL, this just a small suggestion, final decision , adopt it or not depends on Iwanh for sure, hands down.
 
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Just found an interesting history facts
Maybe TTL 2007, there's a small fire occured in one of the towers of World Trade Center, with no casualites, same as OTL Ostankino tower?

Disclaimer: I'm not telling what Iwanh to do on his TL, this just a small suggestion, final decision , adopt it or not depends on Iwanh for sure, hands down.
OTL there was a 3-alarm fire at the North Tower in 1975 set by a disgruntled custodian
 
Wonder what 2000s Internet culture is like in a world without 9/11?
It might be very different
From chapter pop culture 2006
We saw MySpace were bigger than OTL
And WebTube wasn't doing well

In my opinion, the "Main Character" of this TL is : US, Afghanistan, Iraq and Russia.
Looking forward to see United States and Edwards again
 
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