Cobain Continues Redone: A Kurt Cobain Survives Timeline

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  1. TheGuyWhoHeartsHistory Well-Known Member

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    (This is minor, but who is the house speaker in 2005 ITTL?)
     
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    (Pelosi, naturally, given how it just seems to be her intended position)
     
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    March 7, 2005-The pilot episode of the anthology series version of The Devil's Advocate premieres on The WB to rave reviews and ratings. As Rex Reed states in a rare review of a TV project, "as a continuation of Kevin and Mary Ann Lomax's story, it truly is impressive. Though Keanu Reeves still can't do a Southern accent to save his life, in every other respect, his performance has improved, as has Theron's. And Pacino once again steals the show in his menacing role. It is a bit sad that the show will only consist of 20 episodes, and this is the last we will see of the Lomaxes, but thankfully, it should be worth it."
     
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    March 9, 2005-Nirvana is officially booked to appear at the Philadelphia performance of Bob Geldof's latest concert venture, Live 8, to try to convince the G8 nations to cancel debt payments for impoverished African nations and put a dent in poverty, on July 2.
     
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    March 10, 2005-Dick Cheney is interviewed on PBS NewsHour. Due to Cheney's constant advice and President Bush freezing out Elizabeth Dole, she had a temper tantrum regarding it as the 2004 campaign heated up. "If you're going to use him to give you advice on every little thing, why am I even here?! He may as well take the VP slot!" This was done, and Cheney became Bush's running mate. Jim Lehrer probes Cheney. "What has been different in the administration since you've taken the Vice Presidency?" Cheney shrugs his shoulders. "I would say that things are more or less the same. President Bush and his Cabinet are doing much the same as they always have, and there's been no real chaos over this transition at all. It's been operating quite smoothly."
     
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    March 13, 2005-Meryl Poster announces that Disney's distribution arm is formally changing names, dropping the Buena Vista name from major use, with the exception of Buena Vista Home Entertainment on a "use it or lose it" basis. The distribution arm is now named Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures, and that name shall be used not only in all future films, but used to replace on all films released under the Buena Vista name. "What difference does this make?" Poster asks. "Admittedly, not that much, other than it officially signifies that The Walt Disney Company controls its own films, and its own destiny."
     
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    (What next?)
     
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    (I imagine getting closer to release of Springbok's upcoming films for the year, and Harvey Weinstein's trial)
     
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    (Very well. I'll be interested in seeing how that goes)
     
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    March 17, 2005-During the Weinstein trial, a videotaped testimony and cross examination of Rose McGowan is played. During cross, Weinstein's lawyer retorts that McGowan came on to Weinstein and "just regretted it later." She is also castigated for comments spun as refusing to consider caring for pedophilia victims, and laughing at some people's associations with figures like Michael Jackson. McGowan is damaged somewhat, but clearly seems to have won the day.
     
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    Have there been any major technological changes as it relates to how media is consumed (ie, the shift from VHS to DVD to streaming, or the shift from cds/cassettes to mp3 to streaming, yeah, I know streaming wasnt really a thing at this point in the TL)?
     
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    Ask Toxic, he'll be of more help than me.
     
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    Yes, VHS gave way to DVD, like OTL, and it's become dominant in that respect. Just about every industry has adopted digital early, realizing from the start the sales potential. This, paradoxically, means that brick and mortar retailers actually do much better and don't simply experience a decline, as it is planned to simply phase them out by 2050. Every record label has MP3s for sale on their website, meaning that iTunes, as a store, doesn't exist, but iPods and iTunes as a storage library still do.
     
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    Precisely what Toxic said. Blockbuster also wisely moves into the digital distribution business here much earlier and stays afloat, making it harder for OTL distributors to compete.
     
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    March 19, 2005-Springbok announces that Warren Spector will officially head their video games division. Spector is best known for his work on Deus Ex and Deus Ex: Invisible War, as well as helping with the design of System Shock.
     
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    March 22nd, 2005: Theron and Cobain announce that Springbok will be producing their very own game as well, which is an open world action-adventure game entitled Zophre. Details remain sparse at this moment, although it is alleged that the game will focus on the fantasy world of a man with schizophrenia and the enemies it faces that want to destroy it.
     
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    March 24, 2005-Warren Spector lays a tentative release date for Zophyre for November 2006, though this is admittedly subject to change, especially with plans to study the tech and inner workings of the upcoming seventh generation of video game consoles, the Xbox 360, the PlayStation 3, and Nintendo's yet to be announced console. At the very least, the first look at the game will come at the 2006 Electronic Entertainment Expo, and much progress shall have been made in 15 months. On the same day, PBS announces the conclusion of its investigation of Charlie Rose. "We must sadly conclude that the reports against Mr. Rose are credible. Therefore, we must officially terminate his employment at once. This is a very hard decision for us, as Mr. Rose was considered one of our best journalists."

    March 26, 2005-During the Weinstein trial, lead prosecutor David Walgren brings on the head of Miramax's Italian division that broke Weinstein's wrongdoings to The Hollywood Reporter back in late 1998, detailing the ins and outs that happened during Weinstein's visits. The executive also states that Weinstein's brother Bob, while not fully aware of what was happening and not directly complicit in his brother's actions, failed in his job to protect those around him, or to take significant action. During cross examination, Weinstein's main lawyer, Robert Shapiro, attacks the executive, using Weinstein's claim repeated since '98 that Steven Spielberg, DreamWorks and Universal Pictures were largely responsible for breaking the allegations and "creating them wholesale" in order to boost Saving Private Ryan's chances at the Oscars. The same basic tactic occurs late in the day, when actress Asia Argento's videotaped testimony and cross examination is played, in which Shapiro attacks Argento's credibility, bringing claims that she seduced her way to get the the chance to adapt The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things and violated actor Jimmy Bennett on the set of that film. This clearly signifies that Bennett will be called during the defense's case, and that there is an obvious move to create one, if not several, trials within a trial to obfuscate the case, similar to how Shapiro and others, when representing O.J. Simpson during his criminal trial, made a large focus regarding the credibility of Mark Fuhrman. During an interview with MSNBC later that evening, famed lawyer Vincent Bugliosi, best known for convicting Charles Manson and the members of his "Family", as well as writing the book Helter Skelter and other notable true crime tomes, expresses outrage at Shapiro's actions. "Bob Shapiro and the other members of the Simpson 'Dream Team' got away with murder, in more than one sense, back in 1995 when they turned a case, that was supposed to be solely on Simpson, into whether Mark Fuhrman, because of his obvious intolerance, could plant evidence against Simpson solely because he was black, even though Simpson had never reached out the African-American community prior to the case. Hopefully, Mr. Walgren knows better than the prosecution in the Simpson case, and will not let this happen again."
     
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    March 29, 2005-From Broadway.com

    Springbok Announces Last Dance, Dates For New Productions

    It has been made official, after months of rumors. Jim Steinman's Dance of the Vampires will bow out from the Minskoff Theatre this summer. Despite statements to the contrary from Springbok Productions, the musical is going to give its final performance on June 15. The reason for this sudden about face? Walt Disney Theatrical wants to move its production of The Lion King to a bigger space, and the operating staff at the Minskoff made the decision. "Believe us, this is not the outcome that we wanted," Leonard Soloway, head of Springbok's musical theatre division, replied in a statement. "This show has been so beloved, and we were fully committed to entertaining the audiences for quite some time yet. But, with our other productions of the show elsewhere, including plenty of choices right here in the States (a North American tour and various regional productions in the likes of Atlanta, St. Louis, Denver, Houston and Fort Lauderdale), the fans won't be missing out on chances to see it. And we did have quite a healthy run on the Great White Way, so we can be proud of it."

    Not that Springbok will be merely twiddling its thumbs after Vampires closes. Springbok's highest forthcoming priority is Lestat, the much ballyhooed musical adaptation of Anne Rice's popular novels, and the first notable stage musical composed by the legendary partnership of Elton John and Bernie Taupin. It will also reunite much of the talent responsible for Disney's highly successful stage version of Beauty and the Beast, including librettist Linda Woolverton, choreographer Matt West, makeup designer Angelina Avellone, fight director Rick Sordelet, and director Robert Jess Roth. It will also feature sound design by Jonathan Deans, lighting design by Kenneth Posner, costumes by Susan Hilferty, and set design by Derek McLane and Dave McKean. "The production is basically the retelling of Lestat's story, especially the first two books in the series, Interview with the Vampire and The Vampire Lestat. It's the story of how a mortal man has to come to terms with immortality, a gift that comes with a terrible price of having to kill to live, and how he comes to develop his moral compass, grapple with the question of whether or not he is evil. Anne's books have always been so powerfully evocative with their imagery and flowing language, and Elton and Bernie's score is incredibly strong, possibly the best work they've done yet." The show will begin a tryout at the Curran Theatre in San Francisco on December 17, with a transfer to the Palace Theatre the following spring.

    At the moment, a second reading for the Disney/Springbok transfer of Tarzan will be held on April 2 at the Virgin Megastore in Times Square, of all places, followed by four successive workshop productions; Milwaukee on April 18-20, Calgary on May 5-9, Boston on July 11-14, and Providence on September 23-26. The show will then begin official previews at the Richard Rodgers Theatre, the largest of all Broadway theaters, on March 24, 2006, and will open on May 10. The show will be directed by Bob Crowley, who also is the set designer, choreographed by Meryl Tankard, with lighting by Natasha Katz, a score by Phil Collins, and a book by David Henry Hwang and David Ives. When queried about the production, Soloway had this to say. "I can't give too much away, but I do want people to know that the ending will be quite memorable, and certainly be much closer to Edgar Rice Burroughs' novels in its execution. I think we've got a truly kinetic, fast-paced, exciting rush for the audiences, and it will pay off handsomely."

    Springbok is also hard at work on helping Disney transfer The Little Mermaid and Mary Poppins (which premiered to a rave reception in London last September, with Springbok helping tweak the show for American audiences), as well as an English-language version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Soloway was quite terse and matter of fact about these productions. "We have no official dates set for these shows, because they're still in the process of development. I do know that The Little Mermaid was originally set to come out around this time, but Disney wasn't happy with David Ives' book for that production, so it's back to the drawing board there. I can't speak for David, but I'm sure he's grateful he at least got the chance to be involved with Tarzan as a consolation prize." In addition, Soloway admits that part of the reason that Hunchback is slow to come to the States is because of an unexpected bit of litigation. "Dennis DeYoung of Styx did a version of Hunchback in Nashville back in '97, and he's a little miffed, to say the least, about the Disney version. He's saying that all his investors for a New York run were scared off and that he had a lot of his own money in that, so he's threatening to sue us and Disney for money lost in that venture."

    Regardless of how that turns out, Springbok still has plenty of irons in the fire. Buoyed by the success of the recent film version of The Phantom of the Opera, a revamped stage tour, incorporating certain elements of the movie, is officially opening at the Fox Theatre in Atlanta on April 19, and is expected to run for quite some time. Also, a Las Vegas spectacular will be staged at The Venetian starting next June, with "updated technology and effects, and plenty of exciting surprises." Springbok is also at work helping bring Andrew Lloyd Webber's latest musical, The Woman in White, to Broadway, where it will premiere at the Marquis Theatre this November. Alas, it will have to make do without Michael Crawford, the original actor who portrayed the villainous Count Fosco, as he recently collapsed after a performance from intense dehydration caused by the fat suit he was wearing. Michael Ball has taken his place, and is likely to do so when the show arrives in New York. Springbok has a massive North American tour for Whistle Down the Wind, Lloyd Webber's collaboration with Jim Steinman, starting in Providence at Christmastime. "It will be very much based on the West End production," Soloway asserts. "There is precious little that needs to be changed, regarding staging and effects, though we certainly have helped brush up the book. If this succeeds like we think it can, there's no reason it can't move on to Broadway." And Springbok has entered a handshake deal with Lloyd Webber to help produce a long whispered about and gestating sequel to Phantom. "If this production comes about, then we want to help Andrew make it the best it can be, and hopefully temper some of his weaknesses."

    This kind of workload would be enough for most organizations. But that's still not the end of Springbok's work in theater. Despite not fully producing it, they have ponied up considerable money in the forthcoming film version of the highly successful stage musical version of Mel Brooks' The Producers. The film, which will open this December, reunites the highly successful leading duo of Nathan Lane as Max Bialystock and Matthew Broderick as Leo Bloom, which won the hearts of critics and the public during the show's run at the St. James Theatre. In addition, the film will host the likes of Uma Thurman and Will Ferrell in important roles, and despite rumors that Susan Strohman, the director of the stage version, taking over directing duties for the film, the honors have been given to an unexpected figure...Mel Brooks himself. "The whole thing is Mel's baby, starting when the original movie came out back in '68," Soloway explains. "There is no one better to take on the job, and to further demonstrate that he still has the comedic chops that made him famous." Springbok is also hard at work producing a US touring production of the show, and plans to work with Brooks on stage transfers (and potential movie versions) of Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles.

    And lastly, Springbok is also expanding with yet more impressive projects, such as a revival of Barry Keating's Starmites, an English version of Michael Kunze's Elisabeth, and planned film versions of Sweeney Todd and Les Miserables. When asked how Springbok can possibly manage all these potential ideas at once, Soloway merely shrugs. "Hope and faith go a long way."
     
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    March 30, 2005-Despite fierce protestations affirming his innocence, Bryan Singer is officially thrown out of his production company, Bad Hat Harry Productions, which is now placing itself and its assets on sale. On the same day, Andrea Constand, a former employee of Temple University, files a civil claim against Bill Cosby, claiming that he drugged and fondled her. Constand first made her allegations in January 2004, but this past February, the Montgomery County DA declined to prosecute, claiming that there was insufficient evidence. Thirteen women are named as potential witnesses if the case goes forward to trial. At the same time, California lawyer Tamara Lucier Green makes her own claims that Cosby drugged and assaulted her in the '70s. Through his lawyer, Cosby denies ever even knowing Green. At the moment, curiously, this sudden event is overshadowed by the Weinstein, Singer and Rose developments.
     
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