Thinking about starting smaller, with people who are controversial for less... criminal reasons, like Chevy Chase or Kirk Cameron.
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Thinking about starting smaller, with people who are controversial for less... criminal reasons, like Chevy Chase or Kirk Cameron.
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Funny thing about that, actually.
Michaela Dietz, voice actor for Amethyst, actually lent her voice to GTA V as a random background pedestrian.
Here's a video of some of her lines:
TV Tropes Pages: Super Mario Inc.
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Large parts of the game's plot make one very uneasy. Especially as you see your favorite Mario characters undergo a Painful Transformation into a dragon, or be forced to work in mines that are only minutes away from caving in on them.
The MechaBirdo's defeat in the Dreadlock Mines are Cream's Dying Dream
All that time in the mines finally took its toll on Cream as he slowly died.
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- Art Evolution: All of the characters in the game are portrayed with more detailed features, as well as slight redesigns to their overall appearances.
- Mario's eyes are now gray instead of blue, but he is otherwise similar in appearance.
- Luigi's eyes are no brown, and his overalls are a darker shade of green than in previous installments.
- Princess Peach is the only character to have received no significant changes to her physical appearance. That said, her dress no longer goes up to her neck, though it keeps the puff sleeves.
- Princess Daisy has the same redesign to her dress as Peach, but she also has the most changes to her physical appearance. Her hair is now a brighter red than in the past, her eyes are now green instead of blue, and she has freckles around her nose.
- Like his sister Peach, Prince Cream has few changes to his physical appearance, but his royal blue outfit now has a sash across it, and his emerald emblem is attached to said sash instead of on a necklace like during the PlayStation era.
- Badass Adorable: Prince Cream is promoted to playable in the final third of the game.
- Big Bad: Wart is the one who assemble the Mario Bros' enemies together.
- Big Brother Instinct: All four of the adult characters show this attitude whenever Cream is threatened by an enemy. In cutscenes, Mario often reacts with a rather nasty Death Glare whenever Cream is injured by an enemy.
- Build Like An Egyptian: Naturally for a Mario level in an Indo-Arab world, Subcon has a pyramid.
- Canary in a Coal Mine: The coal mine Wart had Cream sold off to uses him as sort of one. As while he does not actually enter the dangerous areas, his ESP means he can simply feel the walls to discover the dangerous gases.
- Color-Coded For Your Convenience: The ten Special Tickets in each world are colored different colors: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, black, white, pink, and cyan.
- Convection Schmonvection: As usual, the characters are only harmed by lava if they touch it. As can be seen with Mount Corona in the Wayra Province.
- Cool Big Sis: Peach is nothing but this to Cream the entire game. With this even being lampshaded by Cream and Nina, one of the NPCs in Wayra, when the latter asks Cream in a Q&A with the characters.
- Nina: What's it like to have a sister like yours?
- Cream: One of the best things I could ask for.
- Cool Train:
- Expy: Lord Imajeen, Lady Leena, and the latter's parents are all these of the characters in Doki Doki Panic!
- Admiral Chester is a rather obvious one of Captain Haddock. As can be seen with his standard curses being "Bazooka" or "Parasite".
- Final Exam Boss: Wart's boss fight involves all the playable characters going up again him and using their respective abilities.
- Hub World: The town of Port Able is home to all the rail lines the characters take to the other worlds.
- Manly Tears: Mario and Luigi shed these as Peach and Cream embrace after the latter is rescued.
- Mayincatec: The province of Wayra is practically an exercise in this trope. Albeit one that borrows the most from the Incas.
- Plot Coupon: The Special Tickets, which are strewn across the levels and used to access all the transport vehicles.
- Power-up Mount: Each of the playable characters has one. Mario has Yoshi, Luigi has Brad the Bird, Peach has Birdo, Daisy has Delfie the Dolphin, and Cream has Pennsy the Hippo.
- Promoted to Playable: Princess Daisy and Prince Cream make their first playable appearances in the franchise with this game.
- Shout-Out:
- Luis Del Flambé often ends his sentences with "I guarantee!"
- Significant Green-Eyed Redhead: Princess Daisy, by virtue of her redesign.
- Took A Level In Badass: Peach, Daisy, and Cream all do this once they are Promoted to Playable, with the former being the ones who eventually the latter, and the latter delivering the final blow to Wart.
- True Blue Femininity: Peach's pink dress is replaced with a royal blue variant from when she is kidnapped until she is freed and Promoted to Playable.
- Would Hurt A Child: All of the bosses are perfectly willing to kill or otherwise seriously injure Prince Cream, despite the fact he's only a pre-teen at his oldest.
- Annoying Video-Game Helper: Toad gets rather obnoxious as the game progress. Mainly due his habit of dry puns.
- Best Boss Ever: ALLof the bosses are tricky, but fun ones which use the player's abilities to their absolute maximum.
- Petey Piranha is considered by many one of the best starters bosses in gaming history. In his fight, you must spray water into his mouth until he asses out, then ground pound his belly.
- Luis Del Flambé and his Tricyclyde are remembered for how much fun they are, as well as how they eschew the traditional "Three Bops on the head" method of combat.
- Catharsis Factor: Getting to have Cream do the penultimate blow to Wart is very satisfying after he was sold off as a slave by the frog king.
- Complete Monster: Wart returns after the events of Super Mario Bros. 2, and is thirsty for brutal vengeance. His first crime is when sends a series of drones Mouser built to attack random civilians. Then, it get worse one he kidnaps the Princesses and Cream, giving the former two off to Bowser and Tatanga, and trying to have them blackmailed into marriage, lest he sell Cream to a dangerous mine. When he learns what is happening, Bowser even calls off his plans to marry Peach. Not that it stops Wart unfortunately.
- Even Better Sequel: Universally considered this to the Ultra duology for a variety of reasons. Including the larger worlds, the conventional "Bowser kidnaps Peach" Excuse Plot being virtually eliminated in a favor of a genuine narrative, and the sheer variety of locations and missions.
- Game-Breaker: One of the key reasons why Princess Daisy's popularity skyrocketed after this game. Her Double Jump allows her to reach all sorts of places that are otherwise too difficult for other character to reach.
- Harsher in Hindsight: Mouser's taunting comment to Cream when he asks what their mother wold think becomes this as of Super Mario Galaxy 2. Since there, it is revealed Rosalina is the ghost of his and Peach's mother, and Cream had the dubious honor of seeing her die.
- Moral Event Horizon: Wart's most obvious one is when he sold Cream to work at one of the world's most dangerous mines unless Peach and Daisy agree to marry Bowser and Tatanga respectively. Even when both agree, he sells the boy off anyway. It gets worse later, when he learns that the mine's owners and workers are secretly supporting the Fungarian Rebellion, so he has the owners imprisoned and tries to trap the miners, including Cream, inside the mine.
- Narm Charm: Cream's scream in terror when he dies actually did un-nerve several players. Including Grey De-Lisle, Princess Daisy's voice actress.
- Signature Scene: Cream's reunion with Peach in Dreadlock Mines after the battle with Mecha-Birdo.
- Though Act To Follow: Easily the trope that sank its follow-up, Super Mario Director. After the over-ambition of this game and numerous changes to the Mario series formula, many felt discontent with a game that eschewed many of these features. Accordingly, Super Mario Galaxy returned many of the features of this game like higher-stakes and a genuine plot.
- Tier-Induced Scrappy: Luigi is easily this trope once you unlock Princess Daisy. While Daisy does not jump as far as he does, she does have a useful double jump which in combined with sharing Peach's flotation abilities allows her to reach farther distances.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Considering the fact Wart wants revenge for the events of SMB2, it'd only be logical that Toad be involved somehow. However, Toad only appears as sort of the Mission Control for the playable characters, and neither him or Wart mention each other by name.
- The Woobie: Poor, poor, Prince Cream.
Large parts of the game's plot make one very uneasy. Especially as you see your favorite Mario characters undergo a Painful Transformation into a dragon, or be forced to work in mines that are only minutes away from caving in on them.
- Dreadlock Mines, near Rogueport, are poorly lit, full of poisonous gases, and in danger of collapsing all the time. The worst part? Prince Cream, who's only a pre-teen at oldest, is used as sort of a canary, and forced to enter parts of the mine that are full of lethal gas.
- Hell, the voice clips for the adults in the mine give players the creeps depending on who the player character is. Mario will simply call "Hello?" repeatedly, Luigi's clips are mostly reused from Luigi's Mansion, and Princess Daisy will try to whistle to grab people's attention. Peach, on the other hand, desperately calls out Cream's name in a despairing, and even tearful, tone of voice. Almost as if Cream has already died and Peach is in denial of it. Overlaps with Tear Jerker pretty quickly.
- The entire game centers around Fungaria being invaded and largely destroyed by Wart. So seeing such sites as Peach's Castle, or any place except Port Able in ruins, can be this.
- As the adults get closer to the center of Dreadlock Mines, we can faintly make out Cream sobbing and begging to be let free.
- Likewise, Peach desperately calling his name is pretty heartbreaking, since she is acting as if Cream is already dead and she's in desperate denial. In turn, this makes the sight of the two siblings embracing even more satisfying and at the same time Heartwarming.
- The Other Darrin:
- This is the first game in the series where Princess Daisy is voiced by Grey DeLisle, as in previous games she had been voiced by Hynden Walch like Princess Peach is.
- What Could Have Been:
- Early screenshots and artwork for the game suggest that Daisy's ridable animal would have been Donkey Kong.
- According to Yoshiaki Koizumi, Wario and Waluigi were originally going to appear as characters who Mario and Luigi would have to fight. Then, in a case of Defeat Means Friendship, they would also be Promoted to Playable, they would betray Wart after learning what he did to Cream.
The MechaBirdo's defeat in the Dreadlock Mines are Cream's Dying Dream
All that time in the mines finally took its toll on Cream as he slowly died.
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Monster/Dragon Ball
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Dragon Ball Z
Dragon Ball Super
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Monster/Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball
- General Tyrian is one of the most cruel and malicious members of the Red Ribbon Army. Having climbed up the promotion ladder on the corpses of his numerous victims, Tyrian is introduced coldly ordering the massacre of innocent villagers and summarily executing a subordinate who objects. After learning of Bulma's technical genius, he has her kidnapped and tries to force her to make him a Dragon Radar superior to the Global Dragon Radar under threat of torture, demonstrating his seriousness by shooting a captive in the knee. When Yamcha, Krillin and Puar come to save her, he releases poison gas in an attempt to kill them, not caring if some of his own subordinates also die. When this fails and they break her out, he doggedly pursues them, intent on recapturing Bulma and killing her after she completes her task and ensuring the others die slowly and painfully. Seemingly killed when Goku downs his aircraft, Tyrian is later revealed to have survived and taken over much of what remains of the Red Ribbon Army. Trying to take over the world himself, he attempts a grandiose scheme to force the world to submit to his tyrannical rule. After his operation is dismantled by the heroes, he releases King Piccolo and pledges his loyalty to him, secretly planning to usurp the Demon King after he's served his purpose. He takes part in the assault on Central City, personally slaughtering many innocent people. When Tien mortally wounds his lover Colonel Noir, he coldly and cruelly dismisses her as useless before taunting him over Chiaotzu's death. Once Goku arrives, he tries to force him to back down by taking Suno hostage, mentally stating that he'll kill the girl anyway after Goku is dead. Truly monstrous despite being only human, and perhaps the most loathsome individual in an already terrible group, General Tyrian helped to usher in a darker, more serious tone for the series.
- Fortuneteller Baba Saga: Tsumekuma is a warlord who seeks nothing less than to dominate the world. Ruling through force and fear, he holds everyone under his command in his grip of mortal terror. As a hobby, he has people kidnapped and hunts them for sport, brutally murdering them and devouring their remains when he inevitably catches them. Learning of the Dragon Balls, he captures Pilaf and his minions, stealing Pilaf's new Dragon Radar and forcing him to build him a Dragon Radar-proof box, threatening to kill Mai and Shu slowly and painfully if he doesn't comply. When he learns of a Dragon Ball in the isolated village of Turquoise Town, he slaughters the entire village to get it. After Goku learns of his Dragon Ball's location, Tsumekuma attempts to kill Pilaf and his minions so he can pin his crimes on them and steal the wish. Once this is no longer an option, he attempts to electrocute Goku to death, planning to turn his lightning gun on Goku's friends next. Mortally wounded by Goku after a bitter fight, he tries to ensure Goku dies too out of spite. While he appears relatively briefly, Tsumekuma proves one of the vilest villains in the canon continuity.
Dragon Ball Z
- Frieza is the tyrannical head of the Galactic Frieza Army, an organization that wipes out all life from planets, then sells the planets to the highest bidder. Prior to the events of the series, Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta, bringing the Saiyan race to near extinction despite their loyalty, as he feared that he was going to be overthrown by a Super Saiyan. During his invasion of Namek, Frieza killed many civilians, including Dende's caretakers and brother, even after he got the Dragon Balls. He also slaughtered several warriors and tortured Nail, Gohan, and Vegeta to near-death, and had Vegeta crying and begging Goku to stop Frieza, who then shoots Vegeta through the heart. He then blew up Dende, when he learned the boy could heal people. He then blew a hole through Piccolo, proceeded to blow up Krillin, and threatened Goku's son. When Goku showed mercy by giving the dying Frieza some energy, Frieza promptly tried to kill him, leading Goku to blow him apart. He later came back as a cyborg, and went to Earth with his father to destroy it, only stopped by Future Trunks. Resurrected by his underlings Sorbet and Tagoma, Frieza craved revenge on the Saiyans, and would stop at nothing to achieve it. After Tagoma suggested that Frieza should ignore the Super Saiyans and focus on his empire, Frieza killed him by blasting him into space. He started an invasion of Earth, destroyed an entire city, killed his entire army, except for Sorbet after they lost to the Z fighters, and tortured an injured Goku by stomping on his chest. When he was overpowered by Vegeta, he destroyed the entire Earth not caring if he would be killed in the explosion, just to spite the Saiyans. Genocidal, arrogant, and sadistic underneath his polite exterior, Frieza set a new standard for Dragon Ball villains.
- Android Arc: Cell, an Ultimate Lifeform created by Dr. Gero, inherited Frieza's sociopathic sadism and Vegeta's pride. He goes around towns eating thousands of people with his tail just to increase his powers, the last of his victims having his ordeal disturbingly prolonged in order to give him absolute fear of being absorbed. Cell then absorbs Android 17 and 18. In addition, Cell takes a sadistic pleasure in killing, as shown when he starts "the Cell Games", just to hold off destroying Earth so that he can see everyone's faces contort in terror and states he would've hunted down every single person on Earth one by one if he won, after which he would then destroy Earth then go on to other planets. Cell beats Gohan to near death and creates "Cell Juniors" to torture the other Z fighters so that he can transform into an even stronger form, which he succeeds by destroying Android 16 in front of him. When the fight stopped going his way, he tried to destroy the world with his self-destruct sequence, forcing Goku to perform a Heroic Sacrifice.
- Bojack Arc: Bojack is a sadistic, bloodthirsty Herunian space pirate who leads a group called the Galaxy Soldiers and has a direct body count that numbers in the billions. Long ago, he attempted to wipe out his own race and then went on a rampage throughout the galaxy, forcing the Kais to seal him and his minions inside a star. Upon release, he seeks revenge against the Kais who imprisoned him. Tracking the energy coming from the Cell Games to Earth, he plans to eliminate all fighters on the planet, then find the way to the Other World so he can kill the Kais and be rid of any obstacles in the way of future conquest. Bojack has his minions infiltrate a martial arts tournament by murdering four of Mr. Satan's pupils and taking their places, while he seemingly kills Vegeta in a surprise attack. When the infiltration is exposed, he orders his fighters to cut loose, resulting in the deaths of numerous innocents. During the resulting fight, Bojack shows absolutely no concern about collateral damage, and bursts into maniacal laughter when told about the huge numbers of people he and his minions have killed. He doesn't show any more concern about the deaths of his minions, simply saying they deserved to die for failing him. Taunting Gohan over Piccolo's apparent death, Bojack attempts to kill him by shooting an energy blast through Zangya, his last surviving minion.
- Majin Buu Arc:
- Babidi, the doppelgänger clone of Bibidi, who uses the evil in a person's heart to make them want to serve him, orchestrated the revival of Majin Buu, ultimately making him the one responsible for the cataclysmic amounts of death and destruction that occur later. Babidi kills his men when they are no longer useful, including brainwashed minions Spopovich and Yamu, after which he comments how enjoyable their deaths were; and throws Dabura, his loyal right-hand man, under the bus once Buu is revived. He took great delight in having Buu systematically kill the people of Earth so he could lure out Piccolo, Goten, and Trunks all for the purpose of getting his petty revenge against them. When he's asked to stop this by Goku, he then announces that he'll have more people killed just to spite him. Finally, he crushed the head of someone who gave him the names of Piccolo, Goten, and Trunks, just because he found the information to be useless. He also constantly threatens Majin Buu when the latter doesn't obey him.
- Super Buu has agency over his actions, unlike his previous forms, and simply chooses to be an Omnicidal Maniac. When Piccolo distracts Super Buu to allow Goten and Trunks time to master the fusion technique, Super Buu irritably uses his "Human Extinction Attack" to eradicate the entire population of Earth. Tormenting those not killed by staying in Kami Tower, Super Buu turns Chichi into an egg and smashes it for annoying him, and turns everyone else except Gotenks and Piccolo into candy before eating them alive. Absorbing Gotenks and Piccolo, Super Buu beats Gohan to near-death while repeating a mockery of Piccolo's teachings to mentally torment him. Absorbing Gohan as well, Super Buu declares he will use his newfound, nigh-limitless power to enjoy systematically wiping out all life on every planet in the universe he comes across. Becoming enraged by neither being able to overpower nor outsmart Vegito, Super Buu shrieks in frustration, releasing his power through them and begins warping the space between dimensions, causing them to collapse on each other and threatening the stability of the multiverse. A callous sadist, Super Buu would happily snuff out all sentient life just to spite Vegito for besting him in combat.
Dragon Ball Super
- Resurrection F Arc: Frieza critically injures Tagoma after the latter suggests that Frieza forget about the Saiyans, before forcefully makes him his "sparring partner" for his training, torturing Tagoma to the brink of death every day for the next four months. After reaching Earth, Frieza tells his men that whoever kills Krillin will get their own planet, knowing how much Krillin means to Goku. Frieza tortures Gohan by shooting him with energy beams, and is highly amused when Piccolo gets in the way of the blasts to save Gohan. When Frieza hears that Gohan has a family, he promises to kill them too, and orders Ginyu to kill Goten and Trunks. When Goku arrives, Frieza states that after he destroys Earth, he will destroy New Namek as well so there is no way to undo his evil acts. Before fighting Goku, Frieza kills all his minions just to demonstrate his power. During his fight with Goku, Frieza fires blasts at Goku's friends just to distract him. Just like in the movie, he then tries to destroy Earth when he finds himself cornered, all to spite the Saiyans. During the Universe Survival Arc Goku makes a deal with Frieza that, in exchange for Frieza fighting for Universe 7 in the Tournament of Power, he'll revive Frieza with the Dragon Balls. Frieza agrees, only to nearly kill Goku with Sidra's Energy of Destruction and attempt to make the same deal with Universe 9.
- Future Trunks Arc: Zamasu, a former Kai from Universe 10 and apprentice to the Supreme Kai Gowasu, has a strong distrust towards the mortals, because they keep making the same mistakes. Once Goku shows a power capable of rivaling the gods, he considers the mortals as inherently evil and dangerous. Eventually falling into villainy, Zamasu plans to eradicate all mortals in the multiverse, with a scheme that he calls "Zero Mortal Plan". To enact this plan, Zamasu murders his own mentor Gowasu, stealing the Potara earrings to usurp his status as a Supreme Kai, and the time ring to travels through timelines. Then, he travels in another timeline to collect the Super Dragon Balls, exchange his body with Goku's and kill him right in front of his family, before killing them as well, solely out of spite. Knowing that no one would be willing to help him for his plan, Zamasu, as Goku Black, formed a team with his future self. Together, they proceed to travel in Trunks timeline to destroy the Super Dragon Balls so that there is no way to reverse their plan, slaughter all gods to keep them from interfering, destroy many planets and slowly reduce humanity into near-extinction. Upon fusing with his future incarnation, Zamasu proceeds to cause mass destruction on Earth just to demonstrate his power as the "ultimate god". When Trunks managed to destroy his physical body, Merged Zamasu's spirit survives, and attempts to exterminate all life throughout the multiverse by merging with it, extending the effect on the others timelines. In all of his incarnations, Zamasu is a petty, hypocritical, and sadistic narcissist who thinks that the world should be reshaped in his own vision.
Video Games
- Budokai: Frieza is the Villain Protagonist of the first game's What If? story "Raging Frieza" & "The True Ruler". He becomes enraged when he's beaten to the Dragon Balls and thus can't become immortal, and fights the heroes. In succession, he defeats and presumably kills Gohan, Piccolo, and—after powering up—Vegeta and Goku. He successfully wishes for eternal life, then blows up Namek, after which he flies to Earth, planning to destroy it as well.
- Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors duology: Cell, in addition to his actions in canon, commits many crimes throughout various routes. During his story in the first game, when Dr. Gero tells Cell that they'll revive the Red Ribbon army, Cell refuses and remorselessly kills his creator when it results in a fight. After killing Gohan and the rest of the Z fighters, Cell creates countless Cell Juniors to hunt down and kill every last person on Earth while he goes to sleep. When Cell defeats Majin Buu, he decides he has no further use for Earth and destroys the solar system, going on to terrorize the rest of the universe in search of another fighter to give him a challenge. During one of his routes in the sequel, while waiting for the Cell Games to begin, Cell kills Future Trunks and takes his time machine for the sake of fighting and killing an alternate version of himself. In another route, enraged by Goku giving up during their fight in the Cell Games, Cell breaks his own rules and destroys the Earth anyway. During one of Piccolo's routes, Cell goes to Namek in an attempt to revive the destroyed Android 18 for the purpose of absorbing her. While there, he makes a deal with Cooler that he'll help Cooler terrorize Namek in search for the Dragon Balls, secretly planning on killing Cooler when they're all gathered.
- Fusions: Frieza and Cell prove to be just as monstrous as they are in canon. When Frieza is freed from hell by Tekka and his team, Frieza orders The Ginyu Force to kill them for no reason. When Tekka's team comes across Cell, Cell immediately tries to kill the group to lure out Goku for the purpose of fighting him. Later, the heroes find out that Frieza and Cell have joined Pinich's team for the purpose of manipulating him into performing the Ultra Fusion. Frieza and Cell then take over the fusion before attempting to destroy the Timespace Rift and everybody in it as Ultra Pinich, only stopped due to Beerus and Whis. The two then flee, opening up a portal to hell to create more chaos. They later escape to the real world in an attempt to destroy the entire galaxy.
- Xenoverse: The Demon God, Demigra, was imprisoned in a crack in time by the Supreme Kai of Time. To free himself, he sends out an image capable of acting on the physical plane to cause chaos and distort time. One of the timelines has him brainwashing Piccolo into trying to kill Goten and Trunks. Another has him trying to brainwash Beerus into destroying Earth. After his release, he plans to destroy the universe and reshape it so that everything revolves around him.
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- Evolution: King Piccolo is an evil Namekian who attacked Earth alongside Oozaru, bringing the human race to brink of annihilation before he was sealed away by seven mystics. Returning 2,000 years later, Piccolo decides to seek out the seven Dragon Balls with the intention of wishing for eternal youth, and then eliminating the human race in revenge for his imprisonment, beginning his search by destroying a village filled with innocent people. Piccolo would then attack Goku's grandfather, Gohan, in his home, before killing him by crushing him with the house's rubble. After Goku and his friends manage to retrieve the Dragon Balls, Piccolo has Mai steal them, nearly killing Goku in the process. When Goku transforms into Oozaru during his final confrontation with Piccolo, the latter has Goku attack his own friends, while also having him choke Master Roshi to death before he could re-seal Piccolo.
Comic Book/The Monk (DC Comics)
First appearing in September of 1939, the Monk (also known as the Mad Monk) is one of Batman's oldest recurring adversaries. Killed off in his second appearance, the Monk spent over forty years in obscurity... until Gerry Conway brought him back in a big way in 1982 (well, to be technical, he introduced his Earth-One counterpart).
Tropes
First appearing in September of 1939, the Monk (also known as the Mad Monk) is one of Batman's oldest recurring adversaries. Killed off in his second appearance, the Monk spent over forty years in obscurity... until Gerry Conway brought him back in a big way in 1982 (well, to be technical, he introduced his Earth-One counterpart).
Tropes
- Death Seeker: A big part of his character is that he believes himself to be an unholy abomination and wants to die... but he won't commit suicide. So he keeps hoping that he will be destroyed.
- Depending on the Writer: Whether his lack of interest in romance is motivated by religious devotion or (implied) asexuality is something nobody can seem to agree on.
- Even Evil Has Loved Ones: In a platonic sense. While he doesn't return Dala's affections, he nevertheless deeply cares for her, and it's shown that he's willing to move heaven and earth for her benefit.
- I'm Going to Hell for This: A rare dramatic example. While he genuinely believes he's carrying out God's will, he fears that his deeds will nevertheless cause him to suffer eternal damnation.
- Our Vampires Are Different: Sunlight causes him no harm other than reducing his powers, he's more associated with wolves than bats, and he can handle holy items with no problem. Discrepancies with other DC Comics vampires are explained by the fact that there are multiple strains of vampirism, and therefore multiple kinds of vampire.
- Red is Violent: Wears a scarlet robe and has quite the impressive body count.
- Tragic Villain: While the exact details vary between continuities, since the 1980s he's almost always been depicted as a deeply tragic figure who knows what he's doing is terrible and hates it... but feels he has no choice.
YMMV/TNA (excerpt)
- Badass Decay:
- Mick Foley went from "genuine world title contender" to "face GM who never wrestles at all and is at one point redirected away from his post by the Main Event Mafia so Miss Tessmacher can rule as interim GM" through the course of 2010 and early 2011. Granted, probably for the best given how broken down he had become, but it's certainly jarring.
- The Originals when the MEM were faces, then the MEM when the Originals were faces. Pretty much the only members who won consistently between Genesis and Slammiversary were Sting and Rob Van Dam (not counting Haas and Benjamin, they were only there out of being tied to Angle).
- Broken Base:
- Whether it would have been a good thing had the Hulk Hogan deal gone through was this for a while. The general consensus nowadays is that the short-term benefits would have been outweighed by the creative control that Hogan and Bischoff would have exercised.
- Similarly: Could TNA have survived on Monday nights, as was part of the plan for the Hogan deal? They've risen their ratings to a very healthy level since, being one of the top draws on Thursdays, but maybe that isn't an indicator, as the new timeslot wouldn't necessarily have coincided with good booking.
- Draco in Leather Pants:
- The entire Originals stable, as heels. See Unintentionally Sympathetic below. Daniels continued the tradition as he was first to turn heel again after the Originals/MEM storyline ended.
- Hamada, even as a heel, was exceptionally popular during her spell as Knockouts Champion, not least when she got the mouthy Spicy Latina, Thea Trinidad as her mouthpiece.
- Ensemble Darkhorse: Daffney got disproportionately high ratings during her Impact segments in 2009, even though she was a heel jobber. Joining her up with fellow popular lower-card heels the Beautiful People was a masterstroke; using that to transition her into the role of a face champion was even better.
- Les Yay: The entire Knockouts division has said something suggestive to each other at some point. Key offenders include Velvet Sky, ODB, and Katarina.
- Narm Charm:
- The name "TNA". They persist with it, even eighteen years later (though it's rarely said outside of the context of their championship belts) even though everyone and their dog knows it's not meant to stand for "Total Nonstop Action". What gives the charm is that the association may have helped to drive interest in Knockouts matches. "Come for the implied nudity, stay for the excellent Daffney/Hamada matches", perhaps.
- On the subject of Knockouts, Velvet Sky after her defeat to Daffney at Bound for Glory 2010. Her transition to darker ring wear, as well as continuing to carry around the riding crop, feels like it should be a predictable, cringeworthy move, as well as going off on rants against face champions to try and "recapture" a belt she's never won... but she makes it work somehow.
- They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: A minor example with the early 2012 transition of color scheme from reds to blues and greens. Some thought it made them lose their identity... when in reality it was done to differentiate Impact further from Monday Night Raw.
- Uncanny Valley: Mickie James and Angelina Love, while under the (metaphorical) spell of Katarina, looked almost inhuman due to how entranced they acted.
Detective Conan (excerpt)
Awesome
Funny
Heartwarming
Tear Jerker
- Call Forward: In the post-credits scene of The Face at the Window, Haibara tells Conan that she knew exactly how Ezou felt, setting up the plot of Countdown to Heaven.
- Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass: Kogoro/Richard, especially in The Face at the Window. His mere presence scares off the child's would-be assassins, and in the climax, he effortlessly uses his Judo skills to prevent one from escaping.
- Executive Meddling: A rare positive example. In the original American dub for "The Stalker" the sympathetic murderer was implied to be sent to prison. CBBC didn't like this, however, and so a separate ending dialogue was recorded which reveals that the case was thrown out.
- Germans Love David Hasselhoff: Or rather, the British love Conan. Seriously, he became as popular as Pokemon within four months, and won best overseas program at the BAFTA Children's Awards that year.
- Mexicans Love Speedy Gonzales: The London arc was immensely popular when it aired in Britain.
- Post-Kiss Catatonia: Haibara in The Face at the Window.
Awesome
- Kogoro effortlessly taking down an assassin with a Judo Throw in the climax of The Face at The Window
- The Face at The Window provides a meta-example. By 2001, the English dub hadn't produced the viewing figures Funimation had hoped for, and they had decided to discontinue it after dubbing the fourth film. By chance, a BBC exec saw some of the film whilst in Japan, and was able to convince CBBC to show it in four parts. It ended up being so popular that CBBC contacted Funimation and placed an order for the entire show to be dubbed. In short, CBBC's decision to screen The Face at The Window single-handedly saved the English dub from being cancelled.
Funny
- The ending of The Face at the Window. As Ezou is preparing to leave for Osaka, he thanks everyone in person for their help. He kisses Ayumi on the cheek, and Conan, seeing Mitsuhiko and Genta's reactions, suggests he might be in even more danger than he previously was. He then kisses Haibara on the cheek, leaving her shellshocked.
Heartwarming
- When Ezou arrives at Kogoro's office in The Face at the Window, Kogoro agrees to help without question (despite being a bit boastful). When Ezou thanks him at the end, he says that it was nothing.
- Why was Haibara so determined to help Ezou? Because she knows exactly how he feels.
Tear Jerker
- The ending of The Girl from the Black Organisation, in which Haibara collapses in tears after asking Conan why he couldn't save her sister.
- It's even more prevalent in the English dub, where Brina Palencia poured everything she had into it. The result? It won her a special award at the BAFTA Children's Awards, and is considered in Britain to be the show's saddest moment even today. Effectively, Vi Graythorn wept, and half of CBBC's audience wept with her.
the best movies never made
Who do have in the infamous Veruca (I want it naaaaaoooow!) role? :biggrin: Lindsey Lohan ?
www.alternatehistory.com
Photos from Alternate Worlds II (read FAQ first)
snip You should make a timeline thread for this,is interesting.
www.alternatehistory.com
the best movies never made
and his Friend Captain Haddock (Voiced by Christopher Lee) Say "Lily livered bandicoots" in your best Christopher Lee voice.....:openedeyewink:
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These are some more assorted ideas. This time for a collaboration I proposed with @AeroTheZealousOne for the video-game themed compliment to Blue Skies in Camelot.
Franchise/Super Mario Bros
Early Installment Character Design Difference
Franchise/Super Mario Bros
Early Installment Character Design Difference
- Mario and Luigi both had blue eyes, and their overalls were red and green respectively whereas their shirts were blue. During the SNES era, the colors were switched around on the shirts and overalls, and Mario's eyes became grey and Luigi's brown. While the color combos reverted to their original forms by the PlayStation era, the new eye colors remained.
- Princess Peach's dress originally had a thin deep pink band around her waist and the lower half of the dress skirt was a deep pink. Super Mario Ultra and all the subsequent PlayStation titles featured a redesign that replaced the band on her waist with panniers, and a ruffle at the dress' hem instead of the skirt area being a deep pink. Eventually, Super Mario Regions for the GameCube would introduce her final redesign, which omitted the collar, noticeably shortened the dress' neckline, and place her sapphire broach on a necklace instead of attaching it to the dress. Regions also gave several changes to her anatomy, most notably a slightly smaller head and a larger bust.
- Princess Daisy originally had longer hair, tan skin, and blue eyes. However, Mario Party 3 would introduce her first redesign, which shortened her hair and gave her freckles for the first time. Then, her playable appearance in Super Mario Regions would give her current design, which redesigned her dress in a similar matter to Peach's, and also made her a Significant Green-Eyed Redhead.
- Prince Cream's ruby broach was originally an oval shape like Peach's sapphire broach. It gained its current as part of his redesign for the GameCube games. Likewise, it was on a necklace, rather than attached to Cream's sash.
- Content from the SNES era toyed with the Mario Bros' origin being from somewhere other than Brooklyn, either being from Fungaria itself or somewhere else in the Mushroom World. This is why Mario and Luigi's baby forms appear in Super Mario World 0: Yoshi's Island. By the PlayStation era, however, the Brooklyn origin story had been established by canon, with the events of Super Mario RPG: Bowser's Return treating the Mushroom World was one akin to the world of Narnia.
- In early games which used her higher-pitched voice, Princess Peach was often portrayed as a Dumb Blonde, and also rather clumsy. This of course went away pretty quickly in the GameCube Era.
- Supplementary material such as comic books from the PlayStation era would often portray Daisy as somehow being related to the Fungarian Royal Family. Typically having her be King Toadstool's niece, and thus Peach and Cream's cousin. However, most of these ideas would eventually be phased out by the mid-GameCube era, and Daisy is depicted as only being a close friend to Peach nowadays.
- In his original introduction for Super Mario Ultra 2, Prince Cream's Psychic Powers were far wider in terms of variety. Most notably, his precognition was far more played up, with him being able to tell all the details of Bowser and Kamek's original plan to abduct Peach again. Later game like Super Mario Regions placed more emphasis on his mind reading and telepathy until those were his main traits. Had the game been released in the 2010s, he likely would have only been able to sense Bowser and Kamek's presence through their auras becoming stronger.
- Many of the voices for the characters only became established in the late PlayStation and GameCube eras. Specifically:
- Mario and Luigi originally had strong Brooklyn accents during the NES era to reflect their backstories. This changed with the SNES era, when Charles Martinet portrayed Mario and Luigi with Italian accents to reflect said heritage. Their definitive voices would come to fruition in the PlayStation era, when Martinet started voicing Mario using an impression of George Carlin as Mr. Conductor, and when Rob Paulsen first took over the role of Luigi.
- Princess Peach's few voice clips in the SNES games were originally a lot deeper and more regal sounding. With Super Mario Ultra onwards though, her voice became slightly higher-pitched and girlier, eventually evolving into her current voice with her speaking role in Super Mario Regions.
- Toad's voice in the PlayStation was originally much raspier and higher-pitched. However, most of the producers had always hated this voice, and when Toad had a major speaking role in Super Mario Ultra 2, they bought in Wayne Allwine, who simply lowered the pitch on his Mickey Mouse voice to provide Toad's voice.
- Prince Cream's original voice in Super Mario Ultra 2 was provided by Mary Kay Bergman. However, her hospitalization after the infamous 1999 bout with depression led to Nintendo having to recast the role, eventually having him be voiced by various children to this day - typically the sons of various NoA employees.
- A common complaint is how no one ever seems to make a big deal when Peach is kidnapped by Bowser, and even Peach herself rarely treats it as anything more than a mild inconvenience. Whereas when Cream is kidnapped, everyone panics, with the most apparent example being Toadsworth's level headed persona in Super Mario Regions that is replaced with his panicking when we learn what happened to Cream. However, this becomes more justified when you consider that Peach is almost always kidnapped by the same set of villains, many of whom are easily defeated by Mario with Peach rarely having any sign of a scratch on her. Cream on the other hand, is abducted by villains that are stronger and more vicious than the Koopa Troop, and defeating said villains is often more difficult than it seems. Plus, the heroes know that Bowser would only hurt Peach on purpose if she fought back or if he somehow wasn't himself. In stark contrast, most of the villains who abduct Cream make it clear that they're willing to hurt Cream reach their desired ends - and that's if hurting him isn't the desired end in and of itself.
- The Super Mario Ultra Duology
- Originally, the worlds in Super Mario Ultra 2 consisted of more left-over levels from the original Mario Ultra than the final product. However, quite a few of these levels were ultimately left out because they felt too derivative of levels in the first game, and replaced with different levels. Most notably, Calico Junction replaced one of these levels.
- According to Yoshiaki Koizumi, he had originally envisioned Prince Cream as Peach's twin, or otherwise being closer in age to her. However, he eventually concluded that having him be a child would add more emotional weight and drama to the story. Thus, he redesigned Cream accordingly to be about the same age as Kid Link, who he is still noticeably modeled after.
- Super Mario Sunshine:
- The game was originally going to featured the transport modes present in Super Mario Regions. However, fan outcry led to the return of the traditional portals instead.
- Bowser was also going to return to being the Big Bad in this game. However, Kozumi decided on Captain Heckbeard instead due to his popularity.
- The Kong Clan was originally going to appear as a group of helpful NPCs in Bandarjadaro, with Big Joe having kidnapped Candy Kong and Donkey, Diddy, and Dixie needing Mario's help to save her. However, Nintendo and Rare were still in the middle of their feud over Dinosaur Planet, so they were removed after Rare pulled the plug on that idea.
- The Super Mario Galaxy Duology:
- When Koizumi first conceived the idea of Rosalina being related to Peach and Cream, he envisioned them all as siblings, with Rosalina being the oldest of the three. However, someone eventually pointed out that having their mother die after Peach's birth would contradict statements in earlier material that Peach and Cream had the same mother. As such, the first game omitted the idea of Rosalina being related to the two from its plot, whereas the second game instead depicted Rosalina herself as being Peach and Cream's mother.
- Super Mario Unity:
- Toad was originally going to be the fourth playable character, and be distinguished from Captain Toad by being blue like in SMB2. However, Koizumi ultimately decided on having Princess Daisy take up the role instead.
- When Waluigi tries to attack Prince Cream in Mario Tennis Aces' Story Mode, Peach uses the nickname "Jafar" to insult Waluigi as she tells him to back off. In the Slovak translation however, she instead calls him "Ratafak", a reference to Ratafak Plachta from the Slovakian puppet show Slniecko. This is likely due to the fact Aladdin is rather obscure in Slovakia compared to most other 90s Disney fare. However, one could argue that this version actually works better than the original, since Ratafak is depicted as silly and rather dumb - sort of like Waluigi.
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Question, does Dimentio appear in your Animated Mario series idea? (He's one of my favourite Characters)
Yes. However, he is far less villainous than in his debut appearance. Even becoming occasional partners in crime with Fawful (voiced by Hank Azaria in a voice similar to his for Moe Syzlak).
This may go against the point but, since I want to use this thread to explore alternate incarnations of various characters(with PoDs justifying why or what happened) here's tropes associated with a alternate version of Zamasu that isn't a complete monster. Through in return he is eerily similar to another villain, especially when considering why this version isn't pure evil unlike our version. I'm probably gonna work on alternate versions of various characters and the tropes involved.
POD on what facilitates this change: The Japanese nuclear power plant incident in 2011 as a result of the earthquake results in a very strong ecological and anti-nuclear movement in Japan(or if they were there OTL they get a large shot to the arm TTL), some of which has vocal anarcho-primitivist and anti human-views on population and technology as well as human morality and progress. Alt-Zamasu is somewhat influenced as a allegory of these trends(much like how Frieza, who is still purely evil here, is influenced by the dark aspects of landlords and real estate developers) This intrestingly enough leads to a much less irredeemably evil figure wrt Zamasu.
Through I will say this is more morally nuanced in the sense of "character x is still a really bad villain but it's a bit harder to argue he's a complete monster and people mistake his ideas for being in the right." Also disclaimer that I do not endorse ecofascism so do not read this as such
Some tropes from alt-YMMV/DragonBallSuper regarding alt-Zamasu:
* Alternate Character Interpretation: Is Zamasu a tragic figure traumatized by constantly witnessing civilizations across the universe destroying themselves and their environment, or is he a delusional, zealous, self-righteous maniac acting under the pretense that only he know's what's best for the universe by resetting it, or both?
* Draco In Leather Pants: You'd find no shortage of fans claiming that Zamasu is fully in the right and that his views on life in the universe is right. Of course these fans ignore his wanton omnicides of various dimensions and planets in order to achieve his goals, and the fact that he might be just deluded into thinking that resetting the universe and remaking life in his image could allow for life to evolve without "inherent corruption".
* Hilarious In Hindsight: Zamasu is driven by the belief that viewed various lifeforms are prone to self destruction. Fast forward to Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame and the goal of the Big Bad, Thanos, is eerily identical.
* Unintentionally Sympathetic: Zamasu is intended at best to be while having understandable motives, ultimately delusional and misguided in his approach. Yet a vocal segment of fans take his side and view him more sympathetically than how he is intended to be seen. The fact that we get flashbacks showing him to be traumatized by constantly witnessing mortals destroying themselves dosen't help things.
It should be noted that I actually am a big troper and do know some people that would be the equvilent of mods in that fourm. I participate in the magnificent bastard and complete monster cleanup threads from time to time and I know KazuyaProta on tvtropes too.
Also thinking about posting alternate tropes of alternate versions of various characters here(ie: a character that's fully sympathetic be pure evil--essentially the opposite of the above, or a smug snake being reimagined as a magnificent bastard)
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Characters/Super Mario Bros/Allies
Prince Cream
"Was that you? Did you do that?"
Prince Cream is the prince of Fungaria, and the younger brother of Princess Peach. Having been confirmed by a royal physician to be a psychic, Cream is able to read minds, use telekenesis, and process information through a sixth sense. In spite of his near omnipotence, he is still a friendly and innocent kid.
Prince Cream
"Was that you? Did you do that?"
Prince Cream is the prince of Fungaria, and the younger brother of Princess Peach. Having been confirmed by a royal physician to be a psychic, Cream is able to read minds, use telekenesis, and process information through a sixth sense. In spite of his near omnipotence, he is still a friendly and innocent kid.
- Adorably Precocious Child: Typically.
- A Day In The Limelight: The Rise of the Sprixies game in WarioWare: Extended.
- All Of The Other Reindeer: The main reason why most of his friends are ones he knows because his sister Peach. As most of the other kids his age are scared of him because of his powers. Though in the RPGs, it's revealed that he's become more accepted among other royal children in Fungaria as time went on, with him often entertaining them with using his abilities.
- Annoying Younger Sibling: Peach sometimes has this opinion of him in the RPGs and Animated Adaptation. However, this is usually a case of Depending On The Writer, as they generally get along very well.
- The Baby of the Bunch: Cream is by far the youngest of the main characters - definitely among the protagonists when you consider the likelihood of Bowser Jr being younger.
- Badass Adorable: When he's Promoted to Playable, most notably in the RPGs and in Super Mario Comrades.
- Big Brother Worship: The main reason why the Marios and Peach usually allow him to tag along on their adventures even when the others are reluctant (unless said adventure is dangerous), as they appreciate how highly he thinks of them.
- Big Eater: A side of his character that's more commonly seen in the RPGs and the animated/comic adaptations. One example is in the IDW comics, where during the Sprixie Kingdom's celebration of Mario's victory over Cackletta, he is seen wolfing down a TWENTY course meal while the Sprixie Princesses cheer him on. However, these instances are usually Justified with the explanation that he uses a hefty amount of energy when using his psychic abilities both during the adventures and to clean up the messes left behind afterwards, and needs the food to recover all that energy he lost during the adventures; and that's on top of all the energy he uses in the sports and party titles.
- Blue Is Heroic: Wears a royal blue outfit, and fits the "heroic" part of the trope to a T.
- Breakout Character: At first, Nintendo only planned to have him be another character who would only appear as a major character in one game, then would be used to fill the roster in spin-offs. However, his popularity due to his endearing personality led to getting enough fans to become one of the series' major characters. With him eventually becoming one of the "Mario Six"; The group of major Mario characters that includes Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, Yoshi, and himself.
- Break The Cutie: Happens with a near alarming frequency in most of the RPGs where he plays a major role in the plot. Though this also applies in the IDW comics even more so. Fortunately, he usually gets better pretty quickly.
- Characterization Marches On: When he debuted in Super Mario Ultra 2, his precognition was far more played up than in his later appearances in both later games and in comics. It would be the more plot-heavy RPGs and his role in Super Mario Galaxy 2, that would lead to his main powers being sixth sense and ability to sense spirits and bad omens.
- Children Are Innocent: By far one the sweetest and most playful of the main characters.
- Composite Character: Of the various human child characters that appeared in the early Golf and Tennis titles. Yoshiaki Koizumi even stated that he planned to use Kid from the Mario Golf series until creative disputes with Camelot led to him redesigning the character to create the young Prince.
- Deadpan Snarker: Often seen in the RPGs when he is trying to hide being Enraged By Idiocy.
- Deconstructed Character Archetype: Despite being among the most famous modern examples of Psychic Children, Cream's abilities are often portrayed as a source of grief in lots of content featuring him. For instance, The Gadd Experiments and Super Mario Comrades both have him placed under inhumane experiments to test the extent of his powers, whereas most of his family outside of his father and older sister care more about him as a means to their ends than as a person. As a result, he's becomes more and more reluctant to use his abilities unless he absolutely has to, though this is reconstructed when he uses these same powers to start asserting dominance over those who want to try and exploit him.
- Distressed Dude: In his debut in Super Mario Ultra 2, where Kamek gave him the same fate as Peach in the first game. As well as in Super Mario Comrades before he was rescued.
- Everyone's Baby Brother: As many a member of Mario and Gang's Rogues Gallery has learned the hard way.
- Expy: Yoshiaki Koizumi specifically envisioned Cream as being based off the several human characters that appeared in the early Camelot-produced Mario sports titles. Most notably Kid from the original Mario Golf for the PlayStation.
- Fan of the Underdog: In the IDW comics, he's one of the few characters who openly thinks Luigi is better than Mario. Though it may be in part because Luigi generally teaches him in a way that appeals more to his playful side than the wiser, but also blunter and stricter Mario.
- Jerkass Ball: Like most other characters in the Mario Strikers series. Notable examples being when he insults his opponents, or curses in anger when the other team scores. Fortunately, he never takes his anger out on his team-mates.
- Kid-Appeal Character: Young, innocent, and cheerful despite the occasional cheek. Though unlike most examples, he easily can stand up for himself in a fight.
- Kid Hero: The one thing all incarnations of the character have in common is that he is only a pre-teen at oldest. He is also the only major character with a confirmed age, as Yoshiaki Koizumi stated in an Iwata Asks interview that he was nine years old during the events of Super Mario Ultra 2.
- Missing Mom: His and Peach's mother was rarely if ever mentioned. Sometimes, Fanon will say that Rosalina is the re-incarnation of their mother, whereas others will assume she's in Heaven like Princess Daisy's father King Aaron.
- Nice Guy: Friendly, caring, and earnest towards his family friends and allies; his enemies don't get that side of him.
- Pink Girl, Blue Boy: The Blue to his sister Peach's Pink.
- Promoted to Playable: Alongside his sister and Daisy in Super Mario Comrades.
- Psychic Children: One of the most famous examples in recent times. His psychic abilities include clairvoyance, remain psionically connected with his sister Peach, sensing and contacting the supernatural, limited mind-reading abilities, and telekinesis.
- Shipper On Deck: Supports the idea of Mario and Peach getting together, this is more apparent from his interactions with Peach in the RPGs.
- Sitcom Arch-Nemesis: Has this rivalry with William, Lord Jules' son in many of the animated adaptations. To be fair though, it's usually William who instigates their feuds and has to learn the lesson in the end.
- Tagalong Kid: The first part is largely subverted, as he is usually of a major help when he joins the Mario Gang on their adventures. Especially in the RPG games and Super Mario Comrades, where he is easily the game's most powerful character.
- Wise Beyond Their Years: Definitely knows a bit more than a kid his age should know, and is also able to read a room easily though his mind-reading and other ESP abilities.
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Thought I'd do some real life examples for some of the ideas I have planned for certain TLs. Some of these are loosely based on ideas @TheMann and @Murica1776 gave me feedback on at various points in the past. With an idea loosely based on one present by @KingOnTheEdge.
Short-Lived Big Impact
Short-Lived Big Impact
- The War of the Shadows between the United States and the British Empire only lasted for slightly more than a decade from 1948 until 1961. However, several major events of the 1950s and early 1960s like as the Poland-Lithuania Unification, the Italian Civil War and subsequent Partition, the Indian Religious Conflicts, the Porto-Brazilian Monarchy's re-establishment, the Re-establishment of French Indochina, and the Commonwealth of Greater South Africa's formation were all directly tied to the political strife in one way or another. These events, as well as those of other events worldwide, still have ripples flowing through the world today.
TvTrope's Trivia page for Disney’s Dinosaur: The Series
- Acclaimed Flop: Received low ratings and only ran for a single thirteen-episode season, but is considered a great show by those who have seen it. It is particularly praised for being much more character-driven than the film.
- Bad Export for You: The version broadcast on Disney Channel Australia censored many scenes.
- Cancellation: Met this as a combination of its high budget and poor ratings. Not only was it the most expensive project Disney’s television unit had undergone at the time, but was Darker and Edgier than all the other animated shows the channel was airing. Additionally, it received a PG-rating, a rarity for the channel, and was written for general audiences rather than just children. This made it a poor fit for Disney Channel, as the network was increasing heading into a “kids-only” style.
- Creator’s Favorite Episode: At a writers’ reunion panel, the interviewees stated that they thought “Episode 2” was their finest work for the series. Many fans would agree to it being one of the better ones.
- Deleted Scene: A fully animated one for “Episode 4” was released by the crew years after the show ended. They confirm that it was removed for time purposes.
- Doing It for The Art: The crew took great pride in the show’s scientific accuracy and art style. While a few fans disliked the show being done with 2D hand-drawn animation, rather the film’s CGI, most praised it.
- Dueling Works: Aired around the same time as the first season of the more successful live-action Jurassic Park: The Series on CBS. This is often cited as a key reason for its low ratings.
- Executive Meddling: Disney Channel executives were disdained by the mature themes and storytelling. Thankfully, the crew won most of their battles, but to the great delay in the show’s production.
- Keep Circulating the Tapes: Until the remastered Blu Ray release, this was the sole way to watch every episode after the show went off the air.
- Late Export for You: Did not air in Brazil until 2006.
- The Other Darrin: All the film’s cast was replaced with the exception of D. B. Sweeney returning as Aladar.
- Out of Order: For unknown reasons, “Episode 7” aired before “Episode 6”, leading to a small continuity error. Thankfully they are in the correct order on streaming services and the Blu Ray.
- Science Marches On: The show was very accurate with what was known about prehistoric life at the time. However, new discoveries in the years since it was created reveal some errors:
- “Episode 3” mentions that Coelophysis were cannibals. The fossil evidence of this has been discredited.
- The Spinosaurus in “Episode 4” is a terrestrial apex predator. We now know them to be aquatic fish eaters.
- The Allosaurus in “Episode 7” is much larger than we now understand the species to be.
- Likewise, the Leedsichthys in “Episode 10” is far too big.
- Several episodes mention that sauropods use gastroliths to digest their food. This theory is considered unlikely today by some paleontologists.
- Screwed by the Network: Was never a favorite of the Disney Channel, in fact they did not strongly consider giving it a second season.
- Troubled Production: It was hoped that the series could premiere in fall 2000, just a few months after the movie. But various production troubles meant it would not come to be broadcast until 2002.
- Unfinished Dub: Only the first two episodes were dubbed in French. These have never been released to the public.
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An extract of TvTropes's Lets Play/ Vinesauce page.
Angrish: Whenever he's frustrated at a game or a chat member, he will often degenerate into incoherent, raspy rambling that has been compared unfavourably to a "demented Donald Duck choking on a bone".
Beserk Button:
Cathphrase:
-For all the lack of skill in the world, his Paper Mario: Sticker Star's stream genuinely saw him lose several times due to him being too accustomed to the possibility of unlimited attacks to realize he could only attack with specific stickers.
Dan Browned: If he can, Vinny will try to pass himself off as being familiar with games or what they're based on. But sometimes, he clearly doesn't know as much about them as he claims to.
Insistent Terminology: It's not "having a short memory", it's "bouncing around many games".
-It's not "Italian-American", it's "Italian-descended American".
-It's not "stubborness" it's "challange".
Angrish: Whenever he's frustrated at a game or a chat member, he will often degenerate into incoherent, raspy rambling that has been compared unfavourably to a "demented Donald Duck choking on a bone".
Beserk Button:
- "Memes". Vinesauce simply does not like those, in any way. Starting off as an (understandable) dislike of overused jokes from other parts of the Internet or previous streams, over time this has warped in hatred of anything even passingly popular for more than a day outside his sphere or from a stream of his older than three days, Flying off the handle whenever that happens.
- The "Sonic" franchise as a whole annoys him to no end, as evidenced by his only foray in it, namely the "Sonic '06" stream.
- Talking about his allegedly tiny hands will get you banned from his streams.
- If you want to keep watching, don't mention that he's "ITalian-American", or he'll get extremely angry.
Cathphrase:
- "Jabronis!", usually when talking about either Trolls (or, at least, what he percieves to be Trolls).
- "Eat dick!", when heavily frustrated with game mechanic or boss fight.
- "Crusty" is his favourite adjective to refer to graphics that he finds unappealing, regardless of artistic style.
- "I can't memorize all this shit!"
- "Whaaat?"
- "Why do I have to do all of that?"
- "Jeebuz!"
- "Fucking shit!"
- "Yeah, why not make this even harder?"
- "I'm pressing all buttons and nothing's happening!"
- "Bronx determination, fucker!"
- "Say ["meme"], say it again, do it, do it you asshole, do it one more fucking goddamn time!"
- "[Game] isn't meant to be played by human beings."
- "I don't eat pizza, I eat only burgers." Note: Vinesauce, being Italian-american, feels Cultural Cringe at the idea of being implied to be Italian and tried to upplay his "Americaness".
- "Money is nice, y'know? Could always use the tip!"
-For all the lack of skill in the world, his Paper Mario: Sticker Star's stream genuinely saw him lose several times due to him being too accustomed to the possibility of unlimited attacks to realize he could only attack with specific stickers.
Dan Browned: If he can, Vinny will try to pass himself off as being familiar with games or what they're based on. But sometimes, he clearly doesn't know as much about them as he claims to.
Insistent Terminology: It's not "having a short memory", it's "bouncing around many games".
-It's not "Italian-American", it's "Italian-descended American".
-It's not "stubborness" it's "challange".
Note that I don't hate Vinesauce or anything like that, it's just that I figured that having him be akin to DarkSydePhil would be a fun experiment, as they actually were pretty similar very early on. Also, it's pretty unfinished for now.
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From YMMV/Sonic The Hedgehog 3:
- Author's Saving Throw:
- Some complained that it didn't make much sense for Eggman to have been as blindsided by Shadow's betrayal as he was in the previous game, considering he had already been backstabbed by Chaos. This game's heavy implications that Eggman had anticipated the possibility of another double-cross and was tossing around possible contingencies in his head helped quiet those criticisms. In retrospect, it does help explain why he was almost immediately prepared to start brainstorming ways to stop the Colony Drop and took a lead role in planning and executing the scheme.
- Many criticized the previous game for its lack of explanation, both of what happened in the transition from SA1 to SA2 and of the plot and background pertaining to the game itself. The fact that this game skillfully explains not only itself, but also the previous two installments, was viewed as a welcome evolution.
- The presence of only three (four if you count the driving minigames) playstyles in SA2 was viewed as overly samey and failing to distinguish the characters, with the fact that Tails spent all his time in his mech (aside from one of the aforementioned driving minigames) being a particular point of criticism. In this game, not only does Tails spend most of his stages on foot, but Rouge's gameplay was changed to stealth. The only two player characters who can be truly said to share a playstyle are Sonic and Darkquills, and there's an in-universe justification for that.
- Base-Breaking Character: Noir is a very polarizing character. To some, he's a sympathetic and compelling grey-shaded character who serves as an interesting foil to Shadow. To others, he's an annoying, unnecessary presence who alternates between wangst and edgelord behavior and an unworthy successor to Shadow. While the vitriol between his fans and detractors has cooled off over the years, he remains very divisive.
- Broken Base:
- The revelation that Sonic is in fact the perfected Ultimate Life Form. Some think it adds a lot to both him and the series. Others, however, think it's unnecessary and even cheapens his character.
- While the canonization of what is now known as the "Sonic Multiverse" was and still is a move meeting with near-universal acclaim, the revelation that the Adventure games were set in an Alternate Continuity from the Classic games was not. Some defend it by saying it makes sense due to differences in character design and setting. Others say it comes out of left field and raises more questions than it answers.
- Rouge's stealth gameplay. It's either a unique and fresh experience that helps to distinguish her from Knuckles and underscore her Character Development, or gimmicky, out of place and derivative of other games.
- Franchise Original Sin: Some later installments of the franchise have taken flack for focusing too much on "procedural" stuff. However, the GUN tribunal and other plot points and moments of exposition in this game — while still well-received — have been pointed to as an early indicator of what was to come in retrospect. Then again, these events were viewed as a natural development as the games grew more complex, and also helped to address criticisms made of previous games failing to explain things enough detail, resulting in apparent plot holes. Moreover, this content takes up significantly less time than similar content in later installments would.
- It Was His Sled:
- The revelation that the Adventure series takes place in an Alternate Universe from the Classic series was a major shock and game-changer at the time, but nowadays, it's one of the first things people learn about the Sonic franchise.
- Sonic is the true Ultimate Life Form, and the late Shadow was a prototype.
- The Stinger where Rouge finds what seems to be Shadow in one of Eggman's bases has become extremely memorable, meaning just about every new player knows about it in advance.