AHC: Prevent a hated fictional character from becoming hated

There are many fictional characters who audiences cannot stand. Of course, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Some fictional characters are intentionally made to be despised. Joffrey Baratheon, Dolores Umbridge, and Carter Burke are standout examples of this.

With that said, this thread isn't about those characters. This is about fictional characters who the creator didn't intend to be disliked, but still end up as a target of audience hatred. Oliver Brady, Wesley Crusher, and Jar-Jar Binks are some of the most notorious examples, but far from the only ones.

Your challenge today is to prevent characters who became objects of hatred despite authorial intent from being as hated as they were.

I'll get things started off with an idea of how to prevent this from happening to Scrappy-Doo. Believe it or not, he was actually a popular character when he first appeared, and was seen as breathing new life into a franchise that had grown stale; his introduction actually gave Scooby-Doo a much-needed ratings boost. Unfortunately, the showrunners had problems keeping the cast together, and used his initial popularity as an excuse to write Fred, Velma and Daphne out of the show, leading him to take their roles. Not helping matters is that he was pushed front-and-center at a time when the show was losing its way (most infamously having the group deal with real monsters, which was seen as a betrayal of one of the show's core principles), leading him to be accused of helping cause the unpopular drift.

My idea is this: find some way to keep the core of the show intact and its cast together. That way, even if the franchise goes dormant like it did IOTL, people are more likely to look back on the little ankle-biter with fondness than revulsion.
 
Barney The Dinosaur...

Maybe give him a less dopey voice. And write a theme song that doesn't involve expressing actual love for children he's never met before.

Related to that last point, re-jig the humour-culture of the early-to-mid 90s to have less emphasis on darkness and irony, so that Barney isn't subject to a constant barrage of pedophile jokes.
 
...Your challenge today is to prevent characters who became objects of hatred despite authorial intent from being as hated as they were...
<shrug>
Sometimes producers and editorial teams simply make the mistake of misreading an audience. Especially if they get caught up with how super-duper-awesome an idea is from their own perspective(s) without realising that said perspective(s) differs/differ considerably from those of the their intended audience.
 
As a trekie, let's see what we could do for Wesley.

Firstly, less of the "Shut up, Wesley" business, and give him and Picard a better relationship. Since Jean-Luc was friends with both Beverley and Jack Crusher, he should really be more of an honorary uncle figure towards Wesley. Even though Jean-Luc doesn't get along with children generally, that doesn't mean he has to dislike this one, especially when he realises just how smart Wesley is.

Also, give Wesley some friends amongst the junior staff, or maybe a few of the older children of the Enterprise crew.

Nog managed to have a good dynamic with Chief O'Brien, after all, despite being rather annoying to begin with. No reason why Wesley couldn't endear himself to the audience more.
 
To my understanding, Barney the Dinosaur (and by the extension the purple dinosaur protagonist) got the hate it got due to the fact it aired in a timeslot during which most college students watched TV and in a time period where Internet was still very much the domain of nerdy university students and technicians*. There's very little that can be done there, short of moving its timeslot a hour or two ahead for whatever reason, or speed up the Internet's spread just enough that TV becomes less relevant for young adults earlier.

Jar-Jar Binks might've been saved by not having that accent and voice, since that was what most people found annoying, more than the mannerisms. That, or seclude the character to specific, comedic-relief-only scenes and never make him appear during more dramatic scenes.

*=While it's true there were parents hating it as well, it had more to do with the fact of repetition (little children like nothing more than to enjoy a specific piece of media over and over again, after all) than anything else, and applies to just as many toddler shows.
 

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There are many fictional characters who audiences cannot stand. Of course, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Some fictional characters are intentionally made to be despised. Joffrey Baratheon, Dolores Umbridge, and Carter Burke are standout examples of this.

With that said, this thread isn't about those characters. This is about fictional characters who the creator didn't intend to be disliked, but still end up as a target of audience hatred. Oliver Brady, Wesley Crusher, and Jar-Jar Binks are some of the most notorious examples, but far from the only ones.

Your challenge today is to prevent characters who became objects of hatred despite authorial intent from being as hated as they were.

I'll get things started off with an idea of how to prevent this from happening to Scrappy-Doo. Believe it or not, he was actually a popular character when he first appeared, and was seen as breathing new life into a franchise that had grown stale; his introduction actually gave Scooby-Doo a much-needed ratings boost. Unfortunately, the showrunners had problems keeping the cast together, and used his initial popularity as an excuse to write Fred, Velma and Daphne out of the show, leading him to take their roles. Not helping matters is that he was pushed front-and-center at a time when the show was losing its way (most infamously having the group deal with real monsters, which was seen as a betrayal of one of the show's core principles), leading him to be accused of helping cause the unpopular drift.

My idea is this: find some way to keep the core of the show intact and its cast together. That way, even if the franchise goes dormant like it did IOTL, people are more likely to look back on the little ankle-biter with fondness than revulsion.
Keeping the cast of a cartoon together?
 
As a trekie, let's see what we could do for Wesley.

Firstly, less of the "Shut up, Wesley" business, and give him and Picard a better relationship. Since Jean-Luc was friends with both Beverley and Jack Crusher, he should really be more of an honorary uncle figure towards Wesley. Even though Jean-Luc doesn't get along with children generally, that doesn't mean he has to dislike this one, especially when he realises just how smart Wesley is.

Also, give Wesley some friends amongst the junior staff, or maybe a few of the older children of the Enterprise crew.

Nog managed to have a good dynamic with Chief O'Brien, after all, despite being rather annoying to begin with. No reason why Wesley couldn't endear himself to the audience more.
I feel like they wanted Wesley to be relatable to younger fans, but they ended up taking his character into Mary Sue territory to the point where he's not really relatable to anyone. He's basically a child prodigy, has a time-space-mind-bending alien tell him how incredibly important and special he is, and he ends up in an important position on the bridge of the Federation's flagship despite having no training whatsoever. Even when I was about Wesley's age, I always felt like he was some kind of interloper who didn't deserve his position.

I think if they had him be more of a normal kid and less of a wunderkind, he would've been hated a lot less.
 
have micheal jackson play the role of jar jar binks as he was once proposed by lucas. this was before the child molest accusation and at that time mj was still very popular
 
<shrug>
Sometimes producers and editorial teams simply make the mistake of misreading an audience. Especially if they get caught up with how super-duper-awesome an idea is from their own perspective(s) without realising that said perspective(s) differs/differ considerably from those of the their intended audience.
Cocaine is one hell of a drug.
 
As a trekie, let's see what we could do for Wesley.
To be frank, not only would this not help people hating Wesley, it would probably do the opposite. “Shut up Wesley” isn’t a cause of people hating him, its a way people express that hatred.

People hated him because he was incredibly annoying and sulky, while simultaneously being a super mega genius who saves the ship repeatedly. He’s also a self-insert for Gene Roddenberry, which is forgivable when a 14 year old writing fanfiction does it, not so much when an old man does so. He’s also always right. Always, and any characters who disagree with him are wrong, stupid, and unreasonable; regardless of whether him being right makes sense.
 
No, it wasn't. Those accusations existed already in the early 90's*. It was before people cared about it.

It was between the 1993 allegations, which Jackson settled by paying the accuser, and the early 2000s allegations, which didn't emerge until a documentary was released in 2002.

But yeah, for all the complaints we hear about celebrities being "tried in the media", the early 90s reportage obviously did little to damage Jackson's reputation, if Lucas wanted to put him in a kids' film.
 
Jar Jar Binks: Give him and the Gungans normal voices. Many people hated Jar Jar's voice and thought he was really annoying.
Night King: Don't kill him off so easily! Have him avoid the trap at Winterfell and march his army south to King's Landing, destroying Cersei and her forces. Then have the heroes defeat him there. Also don't have the White Walker army collapse after he's killed.
Tobias (Pokémon): Introduce him in a Legendary/Mythical special like the Mega Evolutions special to give him some actual characterization. (Legendary/Mythical special with Cynthia as its protagonist. Cynthia investigates the disappearances of Legendaries and Mythicals, and confronts the person responsible. After an epic 6v6 battle, Cynthia wins, but it's close. She finds out Tobias only wants to be stronger and doesn't mean any harm.)
 
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Short of TNG season 1 being much better written I don't see how to help Wesley. Basically everyone was insufferable except Worf who barely spoke or did anything, Data who got to have no emotions, and maybe Tasha Yar who they killed off.

Maybe you could have him just be a young nsign who Picard or Riker have taken under their wing, so his Mary Sue moments early on can be written off as an out of character moment just like all the other ones that gets forgiven as time goes on.
 
Use Wesley to show what being a kid on a starship is about. If there's a red alert show him running down the halls to get to where ever he is supposed to hide during an emergency.

Don't let him solve anything crazy at first.

If he gets a status as part of the crew (after a period of time) give him a job. Pilot or engineer. Not both.

Really though if I wanted to give a teenager a job have him call the roll of the kids from school after a saucer separation to make sure kids are accounted for or something.

Then disappear him off to the academy for a few years before getting him back as a new ensign.
 
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If he gets a status as part of the crew (after a period of time) give him a job. Pilot or engineer. Not both.
I don't know. It kind of makes sense for a cadet to do as learn as many jobs as neccesary only in later years of the academy to specialise.

But yeah, the thing about Wesley is to not go overboard with his character. He may be smart, but so is every one on the Enterprise, Data, Geordi, Picard, even Worf in his own way. So avoid Wesley saving the ship, but he could help others saving the ship. And than he gets noticed and slowly get more responsibilities. You simply need better writing. I started watching TNG in season 3 and season 3 and 4 Wesley was not realy annoying anymore, simply because they wrote him better. At first I didn't understand the hatred, until I ssaw the first season of TNG and at that point it was too late, I didn't hate Wesley. I still don't realy. I believe Kess, Neelix, T'Poll (and most of the characters from Enterprise) and almost all Bajorans from DS9* are far more annoying than Wesley Crusher.

*I am fine with the TNG or Voyager Bajorans, but I dislike the Bajorans from DS9.
 
I don't know. It kind of makes sense for a cadet to do as learn as many jobs as neccesary only in later years of the academy to specialise.
He wasn't even a cadet and he was the main pilot and an engineering wunderkid.

A cadet or junior officer can probably cover multiple stations but they won't be the red alert operator of those stations.
 
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