So, your challenge here is to have Disney (the House of Mouse) and Warner Bros. (the House of Wabbit) merge together at a plausible date to form one big mass media and entertainment conglomerate.
What's the name of that TL to be specific?Not Disney and WB, but I did this with Paramount and Disney in my timeline.
Would that still happen if Walt Disney never smoked in his entire life and lived longer?My guess would be a corporate takeover of Disney sometime between 1979 and 1984, when Disney was struggling a bit, and then something like the Time-Warner merger IRL happens in the mid 80s. In 1984 a Wall Street hedge fund manager (Saul Steinberg) almost bought Disney out
Time Inc. was an incredibly large media company in the 80s. IRL the 1989 Time Warner merger was the largest in US history when it happened, and it survived. So it's definitely possible that a similar merger could take place in the largely unregulated 80s and surviveHow big of a merger does it have to be before the FTC turns up and goes "oh, hold on a sec..."?
The TL is in my signature: The Enterprise Completes its Five Year MissionWhat's the name of that TL to be specific?
Would that still happen if Walt Disney never smoked in his entire life and lived longer?
But would've a Disney-Warner Bros. merger in the mid 80s been possible if Walt Disney didn't smoke?I don't know if Walt Disney actually survives all the way into the 1980s if he didn't smoke. He would have been 79 years old in 1980. The smoking obviously didn't help
Assuming either of the Disney brothers (Walt + Roy) survived into the mid-80s, no. They would never sell the family business. Roy Disney Jr. (Roy E. Disney) was still an executive at the House of Mouse during the 80s though. In fact, it was Roy Disney Jr. who helped save the company from the 1984 corporate takeover attempt by Saul Steinberg.But would've a Disney-Warner Bros. merger in the mid 80s been possible if Walt Disney didn't smoke?
Generally most timelines with non smoking Disney have him live up to 1993 or 1994 at most. Main example being American Magic.The TL is in my signature: The Enterprise Completes its Five Year Mission
Disney between 1980 and 1984 had some board room turmoil. They went through three CEOs (Donn Tatum, Card Walker and Raymond Watson) before Michael Eisner came in and saved the company in 1984. I don't know if Walt Disney actually survives all the way into the 1980s if he didn't smoke. He would have been 79 years old in 1980. The smoking obviously didn't help
Roy Disney lived to 78 IRL, so perhaps a healthy Walt gets into his 80sGenerally most timelines with non smoking Disney have him live up to 1993 or 1994 at most. Main example being American Magic.
the opposite, Fox and WB tried a merger but because post buyout AT%T was a mess that one failed(seems ATT only wanted the cable and HBO channels) and give them the film studio but something happened and failedBefore they bought Fox, there were rumors Disney was sniffing around to buy Warner Brothers - oddly enough, as part of a joint bid with Fox/NewsCorp that would have split Warner Bros assets between the two companies, along with a few concessions/swaps of IP and the like.
It fell through, with hindsight, because I'm sure that this is where the seeds for Newscorp offloading Fox for a king's ransom to Disney were first planted.
WTF, where Paramount got all that money to begin with? that was after bludhorn died tooIRL, Paramount almost bought Time for 12.2 billion before WB came in with the larger offer that resulted in Time Warner
Gulf+Western sold off all their non-entertainment assets after Bluhdorn died in 1983WTF, where Paramount got all that money to begin with? that was after bludhorn died too
yet they loss it later on, damn a shame them, that purchase would have been something elseGulf+Western sold off all their non-entertainment assets after Bluhdorn died in 1983
So how old would Walt Disney exactly be and what year would Walt live up to?Roy Disney lived to 78 IRL, so perhaps a healthy Walt gets into his 80s