AHC: Form alternate/new ethnic groups of the world

French Canadians in Texas (Franco-Canadiens en Texas)
Language: French, Spanish, and English.
Ancestry: French and French Canadian (Both Acadians and Quebecois).
Religion: Roman Catholic with some being Atheists, Agnostics, and Protestants.
Culture: Acadian, French, Quebecois, Texan, and Southern culture.
Region: Southeastern Texas near Louisiana.

The Mexican government is wanting settlers to come and populate Texas to protect it from uprisings from hostile Indigenous tribes and in our timeline the Mexican government invited Anglo-Americans to settle land in Texas if they learned Spanish and converted to Catholicism. But in a alternate timeline the Mexican government invites French and French Canadian settlers from Canada, Louisiana, and France as well as Anglo American settlers from the United States to go populate Texas with settlers to protect Northern Mexico from an uprising from Indigenous tribes such as the Comanche.

Protestant Anglo American settlement in Texas would be banned by the Mexican government because the Anglo Americans weren't willing to assimilate to their culture because they kept on being Protestants and continued to speak English and refusing to learn and speak Spanish. But French and French Canadian settlement in Texas would still be allowed because they were Catholic and even though some of the French and French Canadian settlers might not assimilate like the Anglo Americans would the Mexican government may discourage future French and French Canadian settlement or even tolerate some of the differences the French and French Canadians had such as speaking French instead of Spanish.
Eh, it's a bit too complicated
 
White Manchus

Language:
Russian, with Manchu, Mandarin, and Mongolian as common second languages.

Ancestry: Overwhelmingly Russian with some Manchu admixture. Only in recent years has the taboo against miscegenation with Han and Mongols begun to erode.

Religion: Mostly Orthodox Christian.

Culture: As the descendants of the stateless soldiers who militarily restored Emperor Puyi and Empress Anastasia, the White Manchus live comfortably within Cathay's aristocracy. They strongly adhere to the Orthodox faith and Russian language despite having adopted Chinese dress and food. They are also highly militaristic, being the only ethnicity in Cathay subject to conscription.

Despite mostly being descended from peasant soldiers, their current life style reflects that of the upper echelons of Imperial Russian high society, with extravagant Ballets and Balls making up much of their social calendar.

Space: Spread across Cathay (OTL's Mongolia, Tuva, Outer Manchuria, and China north of the Yellow River) but the largest concentration is around Harbin.
 

jocay

Banned
Cananéens

Language:
French (official, majority), Arabic (official, majority) Syriac (liturgical), Neo-Aramaic (small minority spoken in the Galilee and Mount Lebanon regions) and Yiddish (found in isolated communities in the Judea regions)

Ancestry: Overwhelmingly Levantine with French and other European admixture. Miscegenation between European settlers and the locals has been rampant since the conquest in the late 18th century by the French commander Francois Baron de Tott that the ethnic lines had blurred to the point of sheer irrelevance.

Religion: Mostly Roman Catholic (plurality), Sunni Islam, Druze, Greek Orthodox, Shia Islam, Judaism and non-denominational Muslims (minority)

Culture: Any outsider would confuse the Cananéens as westernized Arabs or localized French but the truth is somewhere in the middle. They are a proudly Levantine people that due to almost two centuries of French rule have been impacted by European influences. The lot of them are Christians though many others still hold a diversity of different creeds. Some may say that they are a people stuck in time, adhering to the mores and traditions of 18th and early 19th century Bourbon France.

Space: Canaan (Sinai + Israel + Lebanon + Palestinian territories + Alawite areas of Syria) though there are communities dispersed throughout Latin America, Africa and Oceania.
 
Last edited:
Iberian Mestizos

An alternate timeline: Several thousand Natives and Mestizos are brought to Spain by the Conquistadors during the colonial age. Also the Jesuits brought Indio and Mestizo students to Spain for studying religion. The Mestizos stayed in Spain, founded communities and also intermixed with the population. Some were settled in Andalusia. Mestizos also travelled into other European regions like Sicily, Netherlands, etc. and to the Phillipines, Florida, Mexico.

Religion: Catholic

Ancestry: Aztec, Maya, other Mezosamerican ancestors and Spaniards.

Culture: Spanish Catholic, to some degree Mezoamerican practices.

Regions: Iberian peninsula, Portugal.
 
Gydingar

History:
Since atleast the 11th century, jewish merchants from both Germany and Spain established trading networks in Scandinavia, interested in the regions furs and amber like so many others. As the Hansa began to more and more dominate trade in Scandinavia, the kings of Denmark, Norway and Sweden one after another extended official invitations of Jews to settle in their lands, hoping that they could prove a useful ally against the german traders. Scandinavia became a place of refuge for Jews and the jews living there developed a seperate culture and interpretation of Judaism than the Sephardic and Ashkenazi jews. At it's height in the 1920's there lived just under half a million jews in Scandinavia. Though over half were murdered in the holocaust, many managed to either flee before the german invasion or hide during the occupation. Many surviving jews moved to Israel after the second world war, but there is still somewhere between 150,000-200,000, mostly secular, jews living in Scandinavia today.

Religion: Jewish, secular

Ancestry: Sephardic Jewish, Ashkenazi Jewish, Nordic

Language: Gytisk (amalgamation of various Nordic languages, hebrew, german and slavic), Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Finnish, Icelandic

Culture: Mixture of various Jewish and Nordic cultural practices, one notable difference is the observence of the Sabbat, which traditionally starts at sunset, is often fixed to a precise hour of the day as to avoid it starting very late or not at all in the summer and very early in the winter.

Space: Mainly coastal Scandinavia, large populations in capital cities but also Bergen, Esbjerg, Gothenburg, Wisby and Turku. Small minorities (below 500) living in Russia and Estonia, a relic of Sweden's time as a great power.
 
Bambini Misti

Language:
Italian, though those who's fathers decided to stay and actually marry their sexual partners and raise a family together would grow up speaking both their parents languages.

Ancestry: Depends on the individual, but generally they have ancestries from all over Africa(particularly Egypt and Zanzibar) and Asia (Particularly India and China).
Religion: Catholic

Culture: Southern Italian, though those who know their fathers and who keep in contact with them, or even more than just that, may also incorporate that culture into their lives.

Region: Kingdom of Italy, particularly its capital Naples and the surrounding area.

Brief History:
With the rise of wealth across the Africa and Asia, non whites were able to head over to Europe in large numbers as tourists. Southern Italy in particular would be a frequent visit for Asian and African men. With its immense poverty and very poorly enforced laws, Italy wouldn't become known as the "Whorehouse of the Occident" for nothing. At first, it would be merely European, and in particular German, men who would come to Italy for "services", but as non-Europeans start heading into the nation for the same reasons, the children produced from the illicit "relationships" would be treated differently then the children of foreign European men. With their more distinctly foreign features, the Bambini Misti would be looked down upon by Italian men as a sign of how Italy was so different from the rest of Europe as a whole, although in time they would be accepted as just being apart of the nations make-up. After-all, no matter who their fathers were, they were all pretty raised raised as Italian as everyone else in the nation. Nonetheless, these children, along with most of the children of Italian prostitutes, would grow in slums and have poor education. The women would follow in their mothers footsteps, while the men would end up as part of various criminal organizations; although things would certainly look up for the Bambini Misti and all of Italy following its Revolution.
 
Kaihosadoreis [1]
While i really like the idea of Yoruba-Japanese communities its much, much more likely that Malagasy or Littoral Southeastern Africans would be purchased.

Malagasy would be especially sought after because 1. Yoruba would die at much greater numbers by the time they came to Japan 2. Before the late 18th century most Malagasy who were enslaved were highlanders sold by coastal kingdoms 3. All highlanders were intensive terracing rice farmers.

edit: also nearly all women were skilled silk weavers which was an incredibly important economic skill in Japan and East Asia.
 
Last edited:
Eastern Norsemen: Vikings who venture and settle in the East into what is now Russia or also called "North Asia". Later, expand into Central Asia with the Russian Empire.

Location: North Asia(Russia), Ural and Volga region, Pontic regions(Ukraine) and Siberia. They form around 30-50% of the Russian Empire.

Language: North Germanic language along with various East Slavic languages including Russian.

Religion: Eastern Orthodoxy predominant with Norse minority particularly towards Siberia.

Ancestry: Mostly Norse/North Germanic with a significant Uralic and Slavic ancestry.
 
Alasakyans

Language:
Russian, English, French and many recognized Native American /naturalized Siberian tongues .

Location : OTL Alaska

Religion: Eastern Orthodoxy dominant with Islamic , native religion and shamanic minorities

Culture: Slavic with heavy influences from Inuit, Tartar, Centeral Asian and Native American traditions

Ancestry: Russian with heavy influences of the myriad ethnicities in the former Russian empire.

POD : The Alaska purchase fails to materialize leaving Alaska in the hands of the Russian empire .

Seeking to populate Russia’s American possessions , the Tsardom begins a policy of exiling “undeseriable” populations, criminals and political enemies to the colony, akin to what Britain did with Australia.

When gold soon afterward is discovered a massive migration from all corners of the empire occurs though Alaska is still considered a “backwater” in St. Petersburg. This neglect causes the Alaskyans to itch for independence.

They get their chance in WW1 which results in the Romanovs being ousted in revolution and forced to flee to Russian America. However they find themselves reduced to purely ceremonial rulers kept only to legitimize Alaskyan independence from the new born Soviet Union.

And so the Alaskyan Union is born
 
Last edited:
Dardanian
Language
: Dardanian, a language related to, but distinct from, Albanian. (ITTL they are grouped under “Illyrian”)
Region: Dardania (OTL Southern Serbia)
Ancestry: Illyrian, Albanian, minimal Slavic and Turkic ancestry is prevelant.
Religion: A mix of Christianity, Islam and irreligion
 
Morlacchi
Language:
Morlacchian, Illyro-Romance with heavy South Slavic influence
Region: mainly Bosnia and Herzegovina, interior of Dalmatia (mainly Romanija Mountains, Berkovici, Ljubinje)
Ancestry: Latinised Illyrians, with Slave c admixture
Religion: Orthodox Christian
 
Southern Italy basically becomes the Thailand/Philippines of Europe. The Bambini Misti( Google translate Italian for mixed children) are an ethnic produced due to lots of non Europeans visiting Italian prostitutes.
I know, I'm Italian after all. But how did you come up with such an idea? Also, Bambini misti is a mouthful. Just "Misti" is fine.
 
I know, I'm Italian after all. But how did you come up with such an idea? Also, Bambini misti is a mouthful. Just "Misti" is fine.
Well, I was noticing that there were a lot of ethnic groups made here that involved Europeans going to foreign lands and mixing with the natives, and since that is such an overused idea, I wanted to try something different.

And I had recently read an article on how there's a bunch of mixed race children in the Philippines fathered by white men who are left to live in poverty.

And in general, I just happened to notice the common trope of white men always getting it on with non white women( particularly Asian women) and how that disproportionately outweighs the opposite in both real life and fiction.

So, I thought of creating a scenario where the opposite happens.

And I chose Southern Italy for this because I like to leave bits and pieces of my timeline setting all over the site. And on of these pits involved Italy never really unifying and the north and central being brought into a centralized Holy Roman Empire ( though Roman is replaced with German). Meanwhile, southern Italy just becomes a mess and is essentially a playground for people to indulge in their vices. Although, that is a temporary state before Southern Italy is reformed for the better.
 
Canaani

Language
: Hebrew, but with extensive Arabic influence

Region: Israel-Palestine / the Levant

Ancestry: Jewish (mostly Mizrahi, but also Sephardi and Ashkenazi etc.) and Levantine Arab

Religion: mostly irreligious, but if religious then one of: Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Bahai

Canaanism became the dominant Zionist theory in the 1930s and, after the 1948 war of independence, the resultant state embraced the Palestinian refugees and embarked on developing a unified post-Jewish and post-Arab national identity. The new national, cultural, and ethnic identity is distinctly Levantine, predominantly an Arabized Jewish society
 
Well, I was noticing that there were a lot of ethnic groups made here that involved Europeans going to foreign lands and mixing with the natives, and since that is such an overused idea, I wanted to try something different.

And I had recently read an article on how there's a bunch of mixed race children in the Philippines fathered by white men who are left to live in poverty.

And in general, I just happened to notice the common trope of white men always getting it on with non-white women( particularly Asian women) and how that disproportionately outweighs the opposite in both real life and fiction.
That's pretty noble of you. Like, unironically. I like your thought process, and despite what some people like saying, the Mezzogiorno could have turned out way worse, even if OTL is still pretty bad.
 
From my Amalingian Timeline

Dal Caoimhian

Language:
Dal Caoimhian Gaelic (Ulster Gaelic with a substrata of Hispano-Vulgar Latin

Region: Southern Spain and Northern Morocco

Ancestry: Gaelic, Berber and Hispanic

Religion: Predominantly Celtic Church Christian with some Roman Orthodox minorities.

Dal Coaimhians are the descendants of Gaelic mercenaries and settlers who were first settled in southern Spain to defend the land from Berber raiders. Falling under the leadership of the sea-queen Caoimhe, they became officially recognized as Federates withing the Gothic-Roman Empire during the multi-faceted civil war of the 8th century, known as The Ruination.

Master seafarers, Dal Caoimhe would expand under its founder's descendants, eventually spreading into northern Maurentania. They would establish themselves as some of the most successful raiders and traders of the era. Dal Caoimhe would also become instrumental in the translating and channeling of Greek and Roman learning to the broader Gaelic world.
 
Last edited:
Formosan Japanese

Language
: Takasago-ben [1], which stems from the Kyushuan dialect of Japanese (specifically a mix of Nagasaki-ben and Saga-ben dialects) with significant Portuguese, Seludongese [2], Formosan Aborigine and Ryukyuan influences, as well as Portuguese as a second language. Mixed Japanese-Seludongese families tend to use Japanese.
Ancestry: Descendants of Japanese Catholics who have moved to the northern half of the Portuguese Overseas Province of Formosa (Known as Takasago in Japanese) since the later half of 16th century, mostly from OTL Hizen province (especially from the Portuguese Colony of Nagasaki), and as well as from other provinces in Kyushu like Bungo and Hyuga later on following the Meiji Restoration, due to the emigration quota set up by the Oda Bakufu [3]. They mostly come in two waves; the first one coming from OTL Nagasaki and Saga Prefectures until the opening up of Japan, the second wave coming from all over Kyushu in the late 19th century.
Religion: Predominantly Roman Catholic, although a vast majority still cling on to Shinto practices
Culture: Out of all of Portugal's Asian possessions, Formosa's Japanese population is very loyal to the Portuguese crown, on the same par as the Ryukyu Islands. Although they still kept their Japanese traditions and customs, they were also impacted under centuries of Portuguese rule, which led to a rise of a Lusified Japanese culture that is distinct from the culture of Japan's home islands.
Space: 10 million, around 50% of Formosa's population of 20 million, in the region of Nova Beira (Kita-Takasago) [4], with diaspora populations in the Lusitanian Commonwealth, particularly in Brasil, Terrastralia and Portugal itself. Originally 2.5 million in 1930, the rapid modernization and investment of Portugal's Overseas Provinces in the late 1930s led to very high birth rates and low mortality rates in Formosa, increasing the population slightly more than a fourfold. Intermarriages between ethnic Japanese and Seludongese from the southern half, known as Novo Alentejo [5] are not uncommon, especially in the capital of São Domingos [6].

[1] Historically, the Japanese called Formosa as "Takasago" (高砂), which means "Highland Nation"
[2] The language of the people of Northern Luzon, which is basically Kapampangan with Portuguese, Ilocano and Pangasinan influences
[3] TTL Japan is ruled by the Oda Shogunate, they still impose some kind of a sakoku, but it's not as very harsh as the OTL Tokugawa one, and this one favors the Portuguese more, with missionaries converting at least Kyushu to Catholicism, but Japan's trade is limited to Nagasaki in this case.
[4] OTL Taiwan north of the Zhuoshui river
[5] OTL Taiwan south of the Zhuoshui river
[6] OTL Taipei with Tamsui district
 
Top