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Susano

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Zajir said:
While it's true that some most countries did retain their national flag after becoming communist some of them didn't (Vietnam, North Korea)
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Well, flag yes, but it seems almost all lost their arms. And god, where communist "arms" (this does need the "") ever unheraldic and ugly. Dear soviets, heraldics is not landscape art:rolleyes:
 

Nicole

Zajir said:
While it's true that some most countries did retain their national flag after becoming communist some of them didn't (Vietnam, North Korea)
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In both those cases, neither country had a nation pre-communism (being colonies) and the former national flag became associated with anti-communist forces in the south. Though even the North Korean flag is claimed as a combination of traditional symbolism and communist symbolism, the red star on white being an evolution of the red-and-blue symbol, and red white and blue are the traditional colors of the Korean flag. (and every other flag on Earth :rolleyes: )
 

Zajir

Susano said:
Well, flag yes, but it seems almost all lost their arms. And god, where communist "arms" (this does need the "") ever unheraldic and ugly. Dear soviets, heraldics is not landscape art:rolleyes:
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Communists shouldn't even have herladry as it's by definition a practice of the nobility.
Also Poland and Czechoslovakia retained their coat of arms, Poland just took the crown off, and Cezchoslovakia just put their a socialist star and the new Slovak symbol.
File:Czechoslovakia_COA_1961-1989.svg
 

Cloudy Vortex

Susano said:
Well, flag yes, but it seems almost all lost their arms. And god, where communist "arms" (this does need the "") ever unheraldic and ugly. Dear soviets, heraldics is not landscape art:rolleyes:
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Any Communist government would shoot you for calling their emblem "arms". Heraldry is worse than capitalist, it's downright feudal. The quite non-Communist French do not officially have a state arms or seal. What is usually called that, IIRC, is simply a monocrome stamp put on passports and other official documen in lieu of the Tricoloure (which isn't monocromatic and can't be used as an ink stamp).
 

Cloudy Vortex

Just in case anyone asks, the following states possess an emblem rather than a coat of arms:

Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bhutan, Brunei (it's called a crest), Cameroon, Cape Verde, China, Comoros, DR Congo, Djibouti, El Salvador, Eritrea, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Guatemala, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, India, Iran, Israel, Italy, Japan (imperial seal), Kazakhstan, North Korea (they call it a coat of arms:rolleyes:), South Korea (ditto), Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mexico, Micronesia, Mongolia, Mozambique, Nepal, Nicaragua, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Qatar, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Togo, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United States (we have a Great Seal with a heraldic coat of arms on the obverse), Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, and Vietnam.

States with coats of arms are still the majority, if barely. The United Kingdom even has an extra one for use in Scotland.

Here's the link.
 

Nicole

The United States possesses both a Great Seal and a Coat of Arms... the Great Seal makes use of the Coat of Arms, but the Coat of Arms could theoretically be used standalone as well.
 

False Dmitri

FWIW, the book on heraldry I have at home has a section called "Communist heraldry." It's slightly odd, but the Communist bloc did have a system of iconography used in its arms - wheat, ribbons, sunrises, stars, and, yes, the occasional landscape. 19th Century heraldry also used landscapes. Look at the arms of, for example, Costa Rica. It's a bit busy, and most heraldists today reject that sort of thing, but it was in fact used in real life.
 
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