charles the bold

  1. Walking on the Silver Line: A Valois-Bourgogne TL

    It's time for the long awaited (hopefully) rewrite of my original TL, Kingdom-Building: A Valois-Bourgogne TL. The first chapter will be posted soon.
  2. Kingdom-Building: A Valois-Bourgogne TL
    Threadmarks: Chapter 1: The Birth of Philip IV of Burgundy

    "Anne of Beaujeu, any good historian says she was the power behind the throne and the reason that the kingdom came to be, but we should not neglect the contributions of the three dukes who laid the foundations for the Burgundian Kingdom." -Josh Tucker (Side note: This man has a really good...
  3. Mary of Burgundy born male?

    I've thought about this for a while, but I have been preoccupied with other TL's to focus on it, but now I've found time to discuss this. What if Mary of Burgundy (Philip of Burgundy after his grandfather in this TL) was born a male instead of a girl? One thing that would obviously change is...
  4. WI: Margaret of York has a son

    In OTL, Margaret of York, daughter of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York and Cecily Neville had a childless marriage with Charles the Bold. But what if Margaret had given birth to a son in 1473, named Phillip (after Charles' father). What would be the butterflies of this occurrence...
  5. Zestinobambino

    The Burgundy-Naples Alliance

    Mary the Rich (1457 - 1482) was probably the wealthiest heiress of her time. As the only child of Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy, Mary was the heir to the Duchy of Burgundy and all the lands that her father and grandfather had acquired, including most of the Netherlands. Naturally, that...
  6. eliamartin65

    The Red Rose and the Golden Fleece - A 15th Century TL
    Threadmarks: Preface

    PREFACE Grand Collar of the Burgundian Order of the Golden Fleece, established in 1430 by Philippe III, Duke of Burgundy, in order to celebrate his third marriage to Princess Isabel of Portugal. Having fallen out of disuse during the rule of Philippe's son Charles, the order was later...
  7. Avrorrange

    WI Charles the Bold of Burgundy was a woman?

    Suppose Charles the Bold(let’s call her Isabella of Burgundy after her mother)was born a woman and she remains the only child(like otl), she’s probably gonna succeed her father’s rule.Who would she marry? I am guessing that she would be married to Henry VI of England to maintain the English...
  8. The Pale and the Purple Rose
    Threadmarks: Prologue

    The pale and the purple rose, That after cost so many blows When English Barons fought, A prize so dearly bought By the fam’d worthies of that shire, Still best by sword and shield defended were. - Thomas D'Urfey @VVD0D95 @isabella @RedKing @eliamartin65 @Dragonboy @The_Most_Happy @Rose’s...
  9. The Kingdom of Lorraine

    What if Charles the Bold had more than one daughter by Isabella of Bourbon? In particular what if Mary of Burgundy had an older sister and so was not her father‘s heiress presumptive?
  10. Mary of Burgundy, Queen of England

    What would happen if Elizabeth of York died in 1471 leaving Edward free to remarry to his sister Margaret’s step-daughter?
  11. eliamartin65

    PC: Charles the Bold's niece as Duchess of Burgundy in 1477

    Hello everyone! I'm here with a plausibility check on the following scenario: A hypothetical niece of Charles the Bold (whom I've taken the liberty to named Emma, after an old Queen of the Franks) becomes Duchess of Burgundy. So, Philip III of Burgundy and Isabella of Portugal have more kids...
  12. RedKing

    WI: Charles the Bold gave military support to the House of Lancaster?

    In our timeline, Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy, held Lancastrian sympathies up until the Readeption, when he switched to supporting the Yorks militarily. This was a huge boon for the Yorkists and helped them emerge triumphant against the Lancastrians in the Readeption. But what if Charles’s...
  13. PC: Indepent Burgundy post Nancy

    The idea is simple - Battle of Nancy happens just like OTL, and Charles the Bold dies without son on January the 5th, 1477. Is there any way for his daughter, Mary of Burgundy to somehow "salvage the situation" and save her father's legacy? Adn to be clear, since XV/XVI political system wasn't...
  14. FernandoPerla

    Kingdom of Burgundy

    Charles the Bold, duke of Burgundy (1433 –1477), wanted the Burgundian state to become a kingdom. How do you think he could have achieved this? He needed full autonomy from both the Holy Roman Emperor and the king of France. Do you think with this full autonomy, Burgundy could have become even...
  15. The Grand Duchy of the West - A Valois-Burgundian TL

    Hello everyone! Consider this my new and improved Burgundian Timeline starting from the marriage of Charles the Bold and Margaret of York. Rather then continue to update chapters in my other tl, which is just gonna make everyone confused given the comments from older chapters, I'm just gonna...
  16. eliamartin65

    WI: Charles the Bold has a surviving brother

    Hi everyone, second post here. During my research on the Burgundians/Habsburgs, I noted that Charles the Bold - father of Mary of Burgundy - had two slightly elder brothers who died shortly before Charles's birth in 1433. But let's say that Isabella of Portugal manages to have another son with...
  17. WI: France Successfully Receives Charles the Bold's Burgundy With At Most Minimal Bloodshed

    Instead of constantly alienating Charles the Bold of Burgundy whose daughter eventually married Maximillian Habsburg, what if Louis XI of France pursues a better approach that gets Charles to marry off his daughter to Louis's son? Assuming France manages to receive Burgundy that way, how is the...
  18. Isabella, Yorkist Queen

    What if Edward IV was the first child of his parents (instead of the third, switching birthdate with Anne) and Philip of Burgundy and Isabella of Portugal had also a surviving daughter (born in 1436) who married him in 1454, during York’s protectorate?
  19. Anne, Duchess of Bedford

    What if Anne of Burgundy, first wife of John of Lancaster, Duke of Bedford survive him and then remarried to sir Richard Woodville (like her husband’s second wife had done in OTL), becoming mother of an ATL Elizabeth Woodville who will become Queen Consort of Edward IV as her OTL counterpart...
  20. WI: Charles the Bold survives Nancy?

    What if Charles the Bold hadn't been killed at the Battle of Nancy? How might history be altered?
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