Alternate Electoral Maps II

[Osk]

"Soqualist Unity"

This doesn't seem to be a typo, so I have many questions

It most certainly is not! Soqualism (or Equalism, as it is known in the more socialist friendly European nations) is an ideology that arose ITTL's America; inspired by the works of varying political philosophers of TTL's America. Soqualists are essentially on the left of the spectrum, are pacifists, and believe in an underlying equality for all peoples. When describing economic classes, they adhere more to the Boydian* vernacular as opposed to the Marxist vernacular.

* Arthur Boyd, a leading economic and political thinker in 19th Century America ITTL.

 

[nofynofie]

Bryan victory 1896.

 

[Tex Arkana]

JFK doesn't get assassinated, and runs for re-election in '64.

John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) 56% Popular Vote - 412 Electoral Votes
Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Richard Schweiker (R-PA) 43% Popular Vote - 126 Electoral Votes

And the county map.

Kennedy easily wins a majority of counties, but Rockefeller still holds his own.

 

[nofynofie]

And the county map.

Kennedy easily wins a majority of counties, but Rockefeller still holds his own.

A dream!

 

[Calthrina950]

I can. I'll post it sometime tonight or tomorrow.

That would be fine.

 

[ElectricSheepNo54]

The website I used is Gravit Designer, I just used the online usage feature and I was able to go from there. Here's the site address if anyone was interested.
https://www.designer.io

How did you fill in the different states?

 

[Tex Arkana]

That would be fine.

Here it is.

 

[Calthrina950]

Here it is.

Thank you. It does look very different from the map that I created. There are a lot more Republican counties, just as I thought there would be. The middle of the country, for example, is almost completely Republican. There are also a significant number of Republican counties in the Midwest. If I am correct, the Democrats do carry a majority of counties here.

Also, I was wondering about the white vote by state? I would assume that Trump still won it in most of the Southern states. Would you guess as to exactly which states he carried it? And do the Democrats win it overall?

 

[Tex Arkana]

Thank you. It does look very different from the map that I created. There are a lot more Republican counties, just as I thought there would be. The middle of the country, for example, is almost completely Republican. There are also a significant number of Republican counties in the Midwest. If I am correct, the Democrats do carry a majority of counties here.

Also, I was wondering about the white vote by state? I would assume that Trump still won it in most of the Southern states. Would you guess as to exactly which states he carried it? And do the Democrats win it overall?

Clinton certainly carries the white vote, given she's winning nationwide by nearly 30%.


This would be my map as to states where she did and didn't win the white vote:

 

[Historia Crux]

How did you fill in the different states?

All I did was open up the image (in this case the 2020 electoral map, a svg file if that helps) and clicked on the map til the individual states can be highlighted with a red outline, clicking on a specific state will highlight it with blue and also allow you to change the shape if you want but it'll open up other functions like the fill feature which allows you to change the color. I'm new at using this myself but hopefully this helps.

 

[jonnguy2016]

2016 map if Republicans nominated Cruz. His resultView attachment 344859 would be worse in the rust belt but better in many swing states. Do you think it is accurate?

Cruz has many of the flaws as Trump(extremist and unlikable) and none of the WWC appeal. He loses pretty badly IMO.

 

[Tex Arkana]

Cruz has many of the flaws as Trump(extremist and unlikable) and none of the WWC appeal. He loses pretty badly IMO.

the map for Cruz vs Clinton would probably be Obama 2012 + North Carolina and Arizona for Clinton, IMO.

 

[jonnguy2016]

the map for Cruz vs Clinton would probably be Obama 2012 + North Carolina and Arizona for Clinton, IMO.

I think Cruz wins Arizona(he isn't as hated by Hispanics)

 

[Tex Arkana]

I think Cruz wins Arizona(he isn't as hated by Hispanics)

I'm not so sure, his immigration positions are just as extreme as Trump's, and even farther to the right in certain aspects. on top of this, Cruz is just extremely unlikable and would probably do worse with Arizona whites than Trump did.

 

[Keeganc2020]

I could see Hillary at 475 or more if Trump runs third party ... like there's a reason almost everyone fucking hates Ted Cruz and he's ugly and annoying...

 

[Bjornhattan]

I could see Hillary at 475 or more if Trump runs third party ... like there's a reason almost everyone fucking hates Ted Cruz and he's ugly and annoying...

I don't think looks come into it to be fair. Besides, neither Hillary or Trump are exactly more attractive than Cruz. Rubio maybe but I don't think people would vote for him just because of that.

 

[Calthrina950]

Clinton certainly carries the white vote, given she's winning nationwide by nearly 30%.


This would be my map as to states where she did and didn't win the white vote:

How would it possible for her to win Idaho and Nebraska without carrying whites? Are there enough minorities in those states to carry them?

 

[Keeganc2020]

I don't think looks come into it to be fair. Besides, neither Hillary or Trump are exactly more attractive than Cruz. Rubio maybe but I don't think people would vote for him just because of that.

I mean Romeny was a very handsom man and Trump Picked Pence because he looks like every stepfather that your mother just married.

 

[Tex Arkana]

How would it possible for her to win Idaho and Nebraska without carrying whites? Are there enough minorities in those states to carry them?

I assumed she would carry both states narrowly, so yes there are enough minorities in those states for Clinton to win them by 1-3% without winning the white vote outright.

 

[DPKdebator]

On a similar note, how would this look on a county level? https://www.americanhistoryusa.com/campaign-trail/game/540888