Introduction
My initial aim in devising this ATL was to put German troops into an occupied Tyneside during the severe winter of 1947. This arose out of some short stories I was working on set in that same milieu. I have had at least two attempts including one of those periodic “what if Sealion had succeeded” posts that so annoy people! Since then I have read many of the already published timelines here and elsewhere and come to the conclusion that the only way to get German troops in Newcastle in 1947 is for them to have been invited in. Any change that provided Germany with enough resources to enable Sealion to go ahead successfully would in all probability have led to such a different WWll that Sealion simply wouldn’t arise.
Inviting Germany in requires major changes in the UK and almost certainly means keeping the UK out of the War. I had already settled on a Fascist Britain before stumbling across a scary thread from 1992 on shw-i looking at a similar theme, although in this case it arose before the Nazis. I wanted to have Nazi Germany in all its repulsiveness and in action on Tyneside during that winter.
This ATL would have serious implications for me – I probably wouldn’t exist! I was born in 1946 on Tyneside, my father served in North Africa, an Uncle was at D-Day and my grandfather was at the Somme and Passchendaele, all of which will turn out rather differently as this ATL develops. So – onwards…
The basic premise is generally drawn from George Dangerfield’s book, ‘The Strange Death of Liberal England’, in which he argues that: four great rebellions before the Great War effectively destroyed the Liberal Party as a party of government. These rebellions were the Conservative Party’s fight against the Parliament Act 1911; the threat of civil war in Ireland by the Ulster Unionists under Sir Edward Carson with the encouragement of Conservative leader Andrew Bonar Law; the Suffragette movement under the Pankhursts; and the increasingly militant trade unions under the influence of syndicalism.
According to Dangerfield events were building to a major crisis in 1914, which was only prevented by the outbreak of war. In this ATL, I want to explore what might have happened if the impact of these inter-related factors had been just that little worse, starting in 1910 in the period of the 'Great Unrest' between 1900 and 1914, and specifically with the Tonypandy Miners Strike of 1910. In OTL, although troops were called in and used, no deaths ensured. What if however, things had gone badly? A major loss of life in this strike would have a knock on effect throughout the remaining time up to the outbreak of WW1. Even in OTL this period saw a huge increase in the numbers of people involved in strikes and in Trades Union membership.
Events move on from there to take in the Llanelli strike of 1911, where in OTL two men were shot by the army, the Liverpool Transport Strike of 1911, where again 2 men died and on through a whole series of strikes. Add to this the Home Rule crisis, an increasingly militant suffrage movement and as importantly links between these movements via increasingly active syndicalist and socialist groups and things have the potential to turn very nasty, very quickly.
I intend to structure the TL as if it was a documentary history of the period. Each post will be in the form of a letter, diary entry, official report from the period or perhaps a historic analysis of events looking back from a later time period. This means that there may be contradictions between items – no one sees the same event in the same way – in terms of what actually happened or in terms of how significant they might be.
I have the first post about ready so that will follow quite quickly. Any first thoughts on the overall TL would be welcome however. I will say however that I'm still not sure about the jackboots on Tyneside theme - that may be expecting too much. I'm still aiming to end the TL around 1947 though.
Inviting Germany in requires major changes in the UK and almost certainly means keeping the UK out of the War. I had already settled on a Fascist Britain before stumbling across a scary thread from 1992 on shw-i looking at a similar theme, although in this case it arose before the Nazis. I wanted to have Nazi Germany in all its repulsiveness and in action on Tyneside during that winter.
This ATL would have serious implications for me – I probably wouldn’t exist! I was born in 1946 on Tyneside, my father served in North Africa, an Uncle was at D-Day and my grandfather was at the Somme and Passchendaele, all of which will turn out rather differently as this ATL develops. So – onwards…
The basic premise is generally drawn from George Dangerfield’s book, ‘The Strange Death of Liberal England’, in which he argues that: four great rebellions before the Great War effectively destroyed the Liberal Party as a party of government. These rebellions were the Conservative Party’s fight against the Parliament Act 1911; the threat of civil war in Ireland by the Ulster Unionists under Sir Edward Carson with the encouragement of Conservative leader Andrew Bonar Law; the Suffragette movement under the Pankhursts; and the increasingly militant trade unions under the influence of syndicalism.
According to Dangerfield events were building to a major crisis in 1914, which was only prevented by the outbreak of war. In this ATL, I want to explore what might have happened if the impact of these inter-related factors had been just that little worse, starting in 1910 in the period of the 'Great Unrest' between 1900 and 1914, and specifically with the Tonypandy Miners Strike of 1910. In OTL, although troops were called in and used, no deaths ensured. What if however, things had gone badly? A major loss of life in this strike would have a knock on effect throughout the remaining time up to the outbreak of WW1. Even in OTL this period saw a huge increase in the numbers of people involved in strikes and in Trades Union membership.
Events move on from there to take in the Llanelli strike of 1911, where in OTL two men were shot by the army, the Liverpool Transport Strike of 1911, where again 2 men died and on through a whole series of strikes. Add to this the Home Rule crisis, an increasingly militant suffrage movement and as importantly links between these movements via increasingly active syndicalist and socialist groups and things have the potential to turn very nasty, very quickly.
I intend to structure the TL as if it was a documentary history of the period. Each post will be in the form of a letter, diary entry, official report from the period or perhaps a historic analysis of events looking back from a later time period. This means that there may be contradictions between items – no one sees the same event in the same way – in terms of what actually happened or in terms of how significant they might be.
I have the first post about ready so that will follow quite quickly. Any first thoughts on the overall TL would be welcome however. I will say however that I'm still not sure about the jackboots on Tyneside theme - that may be expecting too much. I'm still aiming to end the TL around 1947 though.