I think a link won't be a problem. What plugin specifically do you use? The one by Pyrochild or somebody else's?
Map Thread XVII
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I think a link won't be a problem. What plugin specifically do you use? The one by Pyrochild or somebody else's?
https://forums.getpaint.net/forum/44-plugin-packs/
I have Pyrochild and Boltbait’s but as they both have an Outline tool, either one should be suitable for your purposes. It saves a lot of time and they both add some pretty nifty tools.
Religion of Capitals of Lebanese districts:
Maroon sort of : maronites
orange : Orthodox
other orange: Greek Catholics
green: Shia
dark green: sunni
blue-green Druze
When I become a teacher, I wanna get some of these really well done really detailed maps printed out and hung up on the walls so that kids who think that only Europe has an interesting or important history can see that the entire world's history is fascinating.I've been working on a map of OTL India in 1680 for a while now. Here's a map with the Mughal Empire's subahs (provinces) explicitly defined. The richest subahs include Bengal and Bihar, with their associated textile industries, as well as Khandesh due to a diversified number of goods - though Maratha raids ensured that its prosperity was in decline. Large map is linked.
And here is a map of India with Mughal vassals and rebellions instead. I added in a rebellion in Bundelkhand, which my research showed was in rebellion beginning in 1671 and lasted so long largely because it was in an immensely forested region the Mughals only really supported through vassals in the first place. Bundelkhand was later inherited by the Maratha Empire thanks to a notable Bundeli princess being married to the Peshwa (boring dynastic politics - not just an European thing). Some more vassals than the previous versions are indicated, mostly in Gondi country in Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra. Note that these vassals are gradually becoming more irrelevant with power centralized in the subahs (though this later reversed as the Mughal Empire overexpanded and collapsed). It also shows the Grand Trunk Road, the ancient trade artery of India expanding from from Chittagong to Kabul, explicitly labelled. Large map is linked.
Yea, I’m on an RP community with some people and they’re all super Eurocentric, if only I could just put up like a gallery of these
I wish there was a map that was huge and of amazing quality, but was of West Africa. West Africa at one point (and still does) had as complex and interesting of culture and history as Europe, but at this point is seen as a rather useless backwater that was colonized relatively easily by the encroaching Europeans. I wish there was a map of, say, Mali at it's prime, or something way before the Europeans arrived so i can at least have something to point to to say "look, your history is interesting too!"
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I know the map is so old and the ones we have now more detailed and technically nicer, but I can't help but smile when I see that old style and those old colors. Brings back good memories of map threads past.
Just finished Chinapa's economic "association" the Co-Prosperity Sphere. It's really the successor to the old Empire, only via economic means rather than political.
Nusantara is the only real "rival" to Chinapa in the Sphere, and that's really way overhyped in Eastern news, for what it is, since they really want to see disorder in one of the last bastions of CyberPolitik.
Also, Austellia [green country at the bottom, Australia analogue] is officially an "Associate", but it has considerable Chinapan-Nusantaran economic influence over it.
Fairly nice 1855 almost-OTL map here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/map-thread-xvii.426654/page-81#post-15968688
Fairly nice 1855 almost-OTL map here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/map-thread-xvii.426654/page-81#post-15968688
It doesn't appear available?
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Hey @Aqua817, I know I left this place a few months ago, but I made a series of West African maps a while back as well. I don't think I ever posted them here. Give me likes.
Funny, shows up for me. Here's the Deviantart version:
https://banananaise.deviantart.com/art/Alternate-History-Map-West-Africa-circa-1855-713847287
Some of the wording and inspiration borrowed from @B_Munro's wonderful maps.
The latest iteration of my Post-Apocalyptic Political Aftermath, set in a world where creatures of myth and legend are real, and decide to give humanity the finger. However, certain elements within the supernatural do like humanity, so they fight in our name. Fortunately for humanity much of the inter-supernatural battles occurred behind in the scenes, away from public eye, though humanity had its own problems to deal with- mainly, zombies. Lots of zombies. Like in World War Z, many political changes occurred because of this, and the world order changed too. Whether for the better or for the worse...well...only time will tell.
The United States has since regained control over all its territory, though it is a far cry from the old "superpower" that existed prior to 2015. It is a nation wracked with poverty, crime, corruption, and has been forced to cooperate with the Mormons (who, as it turns out, have quite a few magical artifacts in their possession), as well as a few other less scrupulous supernatural organizations. Combined with the rapidly-spiraling-out-of-control-evangelical-uprising that has consumed much of the South, the United States is a nation besotten with problems (The election of a former Catholic (female) exorcist [plus, she's the descendant of Roland, wielder of Durandal] doesn't help PR either.) Nevertheless, its overall economy is still the largest in the world, and under Rebecca Roarfield's administrations, Washington has at last pulled its head out of its ass and begin to participate again in international organizations. It managed to save a third of its population, an unusually high percentage for non-island populations, especially given the enormity of its prewar population as well.
Cuba, whose Communist regime managed to impose order, wipe clean the zombie menace, and take in millions of immigrants, both American and otherwise, has become the world's economic superpower, with the GDP of prewar South Korea and the innovation to match it.
The European Federation has arisen from the ashes of devastated Europe, and while it has a long way to go before becoming a true United States of Europe, it is, still much more united than OTL's European Union. Although it is no global power, the EuroFed has proved to be the most dynamic postwar power, achieving impressive economic growth that is noticeably _faster_ than the United States, under a mix of free market economics and open borders with technocratic development and high-tech research pushed from above, although some skeptics point out this is just because they had a much lower place to start from. However, like most powers nowadays, the Europeans eschew regionalism in favor of globalism- the European Army is deployed in depopulated Slovakia and Hungary, and oversees the resettlement of Arab/Berber minorities in Algeria and Tunisia. They are a respectable force abroad, and are the largest contributor of units to the new United Nations' International Command. Europeans today are the most belligerent anti-supernatural major power, with old international hostilities for the large part now turned outwards to the great enemy, and great slaughter of supernatural invaders is made in European TV shows and movies. Only the young, born after Europe's economy revived and the cities rebuilt, have trouble seeing why they should hate "those damn demons" so much.
The Ukraine barely survived the war, with two rival regimes competing for the title of "best Ukraine". The internationally recognised government (well, by the US and the EU anyway) hates everyone, but tends to consider the EU as the lesser of two evils.
The Restored Russian Empire straddles the Eurasian continent, a palace coup having overthrown Putin in 2019 as the Apocalypse winded down (the leaders of the coup decided to install a figurehead Romanov monarch to garner support, though as of late said monarch is beginning to gather much influence for himself). Russia has a little sphere of influence in Central Asia and the eastern Ukraine, though, as with most other countries, Russia is in no shape (or desire, for that matter) to create a global alliance.
That job has fallen to none other than the British, who, if you're looking at it from a pro-British nationalist perspective, really won the Apocalypse. During the Apocalypse the British Isles were the springboard from which attacks on the supernaturally-infested mainland were launched, and a large supernatural population came to reside in Britain, aiding it in its endeavors and helping to rebuild it at a faster rate than practically any other country. Although there was considerable pro-independence sentiment following the war, with many Britons feeling no need to attach themselves to the sinking ship of Europe, the United Kingdom eventually settled to distance themselves from Europe, but not exactly break from it- as an Associate State of the European Federation. Instead the British built their fortunes abroad, and actually managed to reunite part of the Commonwealth- well, the white bits mainly-, whose combined power is enough to propel the entire organization into great power status. With most other countries withdrawing inward, the British have made a killing with their internal Commonwealth market connecting Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the West Indies Federation, and the restored Kingdom of Sarawak, and have significant global presence abroad. Technically they could hold a seat on the United Nations Security Council as representatives of both the Commonwealth and the European Federation, but given the accusations of excessive British power that would follow, they don't, which is why the seats are currently held by a Sarawakian and a Pole.
China was devastated by the Apocalypse, but by 2022 the Communists were the only real power left in China (Taiwan's attempt to retake the mainland ended largely in failure.) Nevertheless, there were significant elements in the Communist Party who saw that Communism was largely irrelevant in this new age, and in 2025 there was a quiet coup which resulted in the end of Communism and the declaration of China as a democratic republic under the _independent_ Unificationist Party (largely just the Communist Party's moderates, but renaming themselves.) It's a rather turbulent republic, with common disappearances of opposing candidates of the ruling party, in spite of the observation of genuine democratic reforms.
The Japanese have had a long, slow, recovery, and, apart from rediscovering their traditional roots of Shintoism and (not too intense) nationalism, retain an almost Scandinavian gloomyness to this day.
Africa remains a mess: although a surprising number of individual Africans managed to survive (already used to dealing with deadly disease, murderous killers, living off the wilderness, and with lots of Cold War surplus weapons at hand) few of the ramshackle governments survived, and while tropical zombies rotted fast enough that by the time more developed nations were ready to give a hand they were mostly already “non-functional”, much of the interior remains a chaos intermittently controlled by various petty warlords. The UN controls the coasts and prevents marine zombies from passing inland (mostly) but it is stretched thin over a vast area and member nations still remembering how much better they had it before the Apocalypseare reluctant to pony up more funds. The south has done much noticeably better than the north, but perhaps king of the scrapheap is South Africa, which has reverted to white rule (all those Afrikaner right-wing survivalist organizations actually proved useful), and, along with reinstituting apartheid, has also encouraged white immigration, which has overall seen noticeable results with balancing the population in favor of the whites. Talking heads in Pretoria mutter that the white population of South Africa will reach ten million before long, which causes other talking heads to grumble why we haven't killed all the damn kaffirs yet.
The Congo survived thanks to the help of James Bradley, a powerful human who is up to his neck in supernatural influence, having convinced the powers that be of Hell to aid him in stabilizing the Congo. Under Bradley's tenure the Congo has recovered from the Apocalypse, although most Congolese are pissed that they are not only being dominated by a white man, but by white demons as well.
South America generally did well, although the interior also is largely uncontrolled by either side, as well as contested with a demon warlord who, fleeing from Lucifer's archangelic wrath, has established himself in the mortal plane.
India profited well from the fracturing of Iran, though the government is having a nasty headache from the Naxalite rebellion that has flared up again after a decade-long ceasefire. Despite starvation in the safe areas, enough survived that with the absorption of Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Balochistan, India has become the most populous nation in the world, at the grand total of 216 million. (China follows closely behind with 202 million.)
Iraq was unified by an ambitious Iraqi warlord who has hence proclaimed the restoration of Iraq as a Hashemite Kingdom. Nevertheless, Zeid bin Ra'ad has not returned to Iraq, leaving it without a king, as Jordan next door mutters all kinds of things about false monarchy and whatnot, but the "Twin Monarchies", as they are generally called, get along relatively well, with the recent 2033 summit of what remained of the Arab League possibly producing the hope of a new and revived Arab Federation.
There was a fair share of noticeably crazy things done during the Apocalypse to guarantee national security, like Israel building a wall around itself- which largely succeeded, as well as the Portugese attempt to literally pick up their country and relocate it to Angola, which also surprisingly succeeded, despite the fact that James Bradley and the armies of Hell are currently intervening in the shakily controlled north to put down rebels there, something which the ill-named Estado Novo protests, but with their hands full trying to pacify all the Africans and a growing right-wing majority among the three million or so whites that live there, well, what is New Portugal gonna do about it?
The Special Organization, ostensibly the Ottoman Empire's commando unit, but really the Empire's supernatural-suppressing organization, has emerged once again and taken outright control of the Hejaz from the Saudis. This has pleased a lot of people, but it has displeased a lot of others, the US and Israel for obvious reasons, various Islamic groups for others: the Iranians because they are mostly Sunnis, and various Salafist groups because they are fairly orthodox by, say, third century After Hejira standards – in other words, a bunch of tolerant softies who won’t even put Yazidis to the sword and think the (true) Apocalypse will come in Allah’s own good time.
The few remaining members of the ancient Chinese kung fu fighting/element bending/demon-fighting secret societies (mostly suppressed by former Chinese Emperors, since they often fought corrupt officials as well as demons, and the State doesn’t want any such independent-minded exceptions to its monopoly of force) have mostly quietly moved abroad, mainly to Taiwanese territory, while the more narrowly murder-and-demon-trapping focused Yellow Emperor’s Hand have been suborned by Chinese anti-supernatural rule . Disagreeing with the Special Organization, the old Egyptian Medjai have been forced to flee a depopulated Egypt (and the radical hyperislamicist Saudi Arabia next door) as an international Whatsit-fighting mercenary organization, although the buzz on the supernatural grapevine is that that some have also established themselves in the Egyptian Underworld, where they are working to reform the System from within, so to speak.
Technology has pushed forward, if in new directions than before. The British, as mentioned above, are the world leaders of supernaturally-mixed technology, and with a boosted military-industrial complex, the world is reaching to catch up. Many vehicles, especially heavy-duty ones, float on magic, which allows the crossing of rough or swampy ground, and even rivers or lakes (the only limitations being that magic is really bad at bringing you to an abrupt stop that mechanical brakes would easily do, at least for small or medium-sized ones anyway.) Other spin-offs include building perimeters that only admit people who have been "recognised" by the building's magical "system", although people with a _certain_ set of skills are able to override such limitations (of course, government defenses are much, much harder to crack.) Sub-orbital jumps using magic between Europe and North America are becoming increasingly common, and doctors nowadays are usually trained magical healers as well- being able to create and regenerate nerve cells did wonders for the neuroscience profession. Cloning meat is currently in the works, and talk of creating hotels in space isn't too far down the line either.
Disputes against the supernatural have been prevalent as of late, and ground zero of these disputes has been the US, where the Religious Right has been for some time calling for a more “holy” government to deal with the various supernatural forces lurking about, an end to US cooperation with “ungodly” regimes, laws against polytheism, and the destruction rather than study and containment of supernatural forces and entities, and the forcible “liberation” of the Black Hills Treaty Indigenous Spirit Reservation. The election of _semi-retired_Catholic exorcist Rebecca Roarfield as president provoked an outbreak of religious hysteria which has since grown to an outbreak of wide-spread rioting, civil disobedience, “non-cooperation” and attacks on “Polytheists” and “Witches” across much of Baptist America, as well as some parts of the midwest. As yet none of the state governors have followed the calls for “neutralization” or even “secession”, but there have been rumblings from both Texas and Florida.
And it turns out that the gods of myth and legend aren't the only one out there, as minds vast and incomprehensible turn their attention to the newly-supernaturally-aware world, plotting their newest amusement with humankind....
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That makes sense.
Where is it's capital? I noticed Chicago was never nuked, or occupied by a foreign power, so I'm betting it's there. Why's the radiation in the DC zone so awful? Unlike most areas it looks like it never got cleaned up.
Also, I don't know if this is a mistake or purposeful, but I noticed the Sea Levels dropped around the 2060's, but then came back in the final map. Is that purposeful or a mistake?
Ye gods, methinks that the thrice-be-damned Religious Right is going to end up starting a civil war - that will not please the rest of the Americans and their supernatural allies... if the Evangelicals do start pulling states out of the Union, the government is undoubtably come down hard on them and their ilk... with all that has happened and what is coming down the pipe, the US needs to remain unified and strong...
Just finished Hennodia.
Personally, to me the most interesting bits are the two Switzerlands [one between France, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands, and one just above Greece]. One has the language diversity, the other the clocks. Another interesting bit is the Scania-analogue that speaks Elfdalian. [Green bit below Finland and Sweden]. Elfdalian is an interesting linguistic nugget in our world that I wanted to give it its own country there.
Yep, and not proud of it. Then again, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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