Some little fragments of a map I'm slowly working on in which the US loses the Spanish-American War.
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hey, i'll count 2/3 as close enough, and i also respect china being the third post in the tripolar world, definitely makes things a bit more fun than 'european-american world domination (again)'Nothing quite so exotic, I'm afraid: Russia, America and China.
Britain used to be one of the poles, but was basically torn apart by the Americans on one side and the Chinese on the other in the decolonization push of the 1940s-50s, and now all that's left are the Dominions + a few other colonies.
although that wasn't specified by OP in previous posts, i do see where you're coming from in that regard. that really should've been my first guess, if anything.I think he's trying to go for a "wank" route, kind of like how B_Munro usually does with his stuff
Yes precisely. It’s a successful first Serbian revoltIs this an earlier independent Serbia?
A world where both the ussr and china collapse in 1991:
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China was too unstable in the early 90s to keep Manchuria, and the yellow thing is basically belarus 2.0How does manchuria become independent? And what's that yellow colored thing in Southern China?
Belarus has an identity separate from Russia that can justify such separation. That yellow thing doesn't.China was too unstable in the early 90s to keep Manchuria, and the yellow thing is basically belarus 2.
Did I mention the han genocides of the 90's?Belarus has an identity separate from Russia that can justify such separation. That yellow thing doesn't.
The same goes for "Manchuria". Yeah, you can point out the Manchu ethnic group, but they're mostly assimilated, and the region is majority Han by a large margin.
Also, forgot to mention, but congrats on making Mongolia majority Chinese lol.
Manchuria is like 98% Han so any attempted genocide there isn't even going to get off the ground, and the Han in Inner Mongolia outnumber the Mongols like 4.5 to 1.Did I mention the han genocides of the 90's?
No, I haven't seen any mention of such genocides in your original post.Did I mention the han genocides of the 90's?
For China to be too unstable to "keep" Manchuria, there would need to be a popular independence movement in Manchuria. Such a thing never existed in 1991, because, as has been stated, Manchuria is 98% Han Chinese. If you want an independent Manchuria, you're better off having it split off along ideological lines, not manufacturing some kind of ethnic situation that doesn't exist in real life.China was too unstable in the early 90s to keep Manchuria, and the yellow thing is basically belarus 2.0
The only bits of China that Mongolia could eat without issues are Northern Chahar.For China to be too unstable to "keep" Manchuria, there would need to be a popular independence movement in Manchuria. Such a thing never existed in 1991, because, as has been stated, Manchuria is 98% Han Chinese. If you want an independent Manchuria, you're better off having it split off along ideological lines, not manufacturing some kind of ethnic situation that doesn't exist in real life.
For example, rather than China "collapsing", it suffers another civil war. The majority of mainland China winds up controlled by a republican government a la Taiwan (and is also reunified with Taiwan), while the CCP clings to power in Manchuria. International arbitration creates a DMZ situation between Manchuria and China similar to the one that exists between North and South Korea. Manchuria would still technically be called "The People's Republic of China", but shorthand would likely just be "Manchuria" or "North China" in the same way we refer to the "Republic of China" as Taiwan.
That doesn't allow Mongolia to absorb Inner Mongolia (nor should it, that's a ridiculous situation), and it does't allow for the existence of a Chinese "Belarus" (which is also ridiculous), but it at least gives you an independent Manchuria.
Everyone has offered the classic gripes with this map, but lets say we do want a realistic balkanized China, what does that look like?A world where both the ussr and china collapse in 1991:
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