1524-1527
In March 1524, Princess Renee, aged 13, arrived in Dogmersfield, much like her unfortunate precedessor, Katherine of Aragon. Prince James was now a tall and dashing man of seventeen who was now spending every two years in each of his parent's domain. He greeted his bride with a kiss on the hand, smiling charmingly at her, speaking to her in fluent French. Renee, for her part, was a friendly and warm girl who wanted nothing more than to fit in with her new family. She also seemed quite taken with her soon to be husband, finding him very wonderful.

The wedding of Renee and James would not be for another three years, but in the meantime the couple would live together and get to know each other. First they spent some time in Northumberland, with James' childhood friend, the son of the Earl of Northumberland. Among the ladies with Renee came Anne Boleyn. It is not known just how much Renee and James know of Hal Percy's courtship of Anne Boleyn. What is known is when the Earl of Northumberland rejected the idea that Anne would be his daughter-in-law, the Prince and Princess of Wales were quick to speak up in favor of the marriage.

As the future Lady Percy wrote in her letters: "It is always useful to have someone in your corner, but when those people happen to royalty, you suddenly find yourself winning every match."

Despite the good beginning, it soon became clear that helping his friend with the woman he loved was not the only reason, James had wanted to stay in Northumberland for a time. Joan North[1] was a silkwoman and had somehow charmed the Prince of Wales. In August of 1524, it was discovered that Joan was carrying the Prince's baby much to the heartbreak of his wife who had been kept in the dark about her husband's affairs.

Queen Margaret was furious as was King James. Although the Scottish King had his fair share of mistresses and bastards, he had remained faithful since the day Margaret had arrived in Scotland. Both parents urged Prince James to find a husband for his mistress and not acknowledged the child.

Prince James only did half of what his parents demanded, he found a husband for Joan, a wealthy Londoner, but when she gave birth to a baby girl, named Joan, James wasted no time celebrating the birth of his baby daughter. Renee surprised everyone by showing up at the feast, even drinking a toast to little baby's health. However, despite her brave face, it was clear that her feelings for the prince had cooled considerably as she wrote to Queen Margaret, requesting to spend some time in Wales while her husband was in Scotland. Officially because as the Princess of Wales, it was her duty to get to know the Welsh people. Unofficially, she did not want to be in the same room as James, let alone the same country.

Over in Spain, Ferdinand and Isabella welcome their first-born child, a daughter named Catalina. Much to his brother's ire, Ferdinand refuses to get involved in third Italian war, deciding instead on exploration and colonization much like his brother-in-law King John. Both Katherine and Juana try to change his mind, but he simply tells them: "I respect both of you very much, but I will not involve myself in petty squabbles to inflate my own ego. If Francis dares to attack Naples or Sicily, I shall put the rogue down, but for now I wish to distance myself from such matters." To his shock, it would not be France who decided to attack Sicily.

Emperor Charles was not happy. He had a son and two daughter with Mary. He was the ruler of a vast Empire, but he still felt cheated by not getting his grandfather's lands despite being his mother's oldest son. When Ferdinand refused to help him in the Italian war, he decided to press his claim on the Naples, and Sicily. If he thought this would intimidate Ferdinand or cow him into submission, he was wrong. His normally gentle brother was enraged at his betrayal and promised retribution if his brother tried.

If Ferdinand was angry, King Francios of France and King Henri of Navarre were overjoyed by Charles' threat. A divided Hapsburg house was perhaps the best thing for France. They sent letters to the younger Hapsburg, suggesting treaties and alliances. To his mother and aunt's dismay, Ferdinand accepted both alliances. The union would bear fruit when a timely rescue by King Ferdinand saved King Francois from being captured in Pavia.

Just when Emperor Charles was certain things could not get worse, King Louis II of Hungry and Bohemia died. His stepgrandmother, Anne was elected queen and she reveled a shocking secret. She had eloped with his distant cousin, Ernest of Bavaria [2], removing any chance for Charles to have her married to a Hapsburg supporter. No one knew exactly when Anna and Ernest eloped, or how the couple had even pulled it off. Many historians wonder if it was a romantic love story or if Anna had simply not wanted to be a pawn in the Hapsburg politics and had thought marrying a member of the Wittelsbach dynasty would get her much support.

Things were getting out of hand, and unfortunately they would not get better for the Emperor as Martin Luther's reforms were spreading throughout Germany.

1. Joan North was the sister of Edward North, the First Baron North and she was actually a silkwoman for Anne's household when she was queen.

2. John Zápolya a.k.a OTL disputed King of Hungary. Ernest of Bavaria (1500-1560), third son of Duke Albert IV of Bavaria-Munich and his wife, Kunigunde of Austria, daughter of Fredrick, Holy Roman Emperor.
 
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er, Anne was elected queen a

She won't be elected queen on her own, and Zapolya had as many enemies as supporters. Many Hungarians seen him as lowborn, because of rather humble origins of his family. Not to mention, that Bohemians have exactly zero reason to follow this decision, as they feared that king who hails from Hungarian nobility would deprive them from Moravia, Silesia and Lusatia (lands Matthias Corvinus once held). And Anna's uncle - Sigismund (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund_I_the_Old), could be the other viable claimant and would probably be enraged at his niece for marrying Zapolya without his consent (Ferdinand was the husband set for her by first Congress of Vienna), not to mention that Zapolya is not connected with Reich, and Sigismund feared that he'd be surrounded by hostile alliance, which is not something that Zapolya can achieve.
So expect war of Bohemian-Hungarian succesion.
 
Ferdinand was the husband set for her by first Congress of Vienna
Actually, ITTL Ferdinand is accepted as heir of his grandfather by the Cortes of Castile and Aragon and marries Isabella of Portugal. Meanwhile otl Charles v marries Mary Tudor. So at the Congress of Vienna, Maximilian is the only Habsburg male available so Anna is betrothed to him.
 
She won't be elected queen on her own, and Zapolya had as many enemies as supporters. Many Hungarians seen him as lowborn, because of rather humble origins of his family. Not to mention, that Bohemians have exactly zero reason to follow this decision, as they feared that king who hails from Hungarian nobility would deprive them from Moravia, Silesia and Lusatia (lands Matthias Corvinus once held). And Anna's uncle - Sigismund (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund_I_the_Old), could be the other viable claimant and would probably be enraged at his niece for marrying Zapolya without his consent (Ferdinand was the husband set for her by first Congress of Vienna), not to mention that Zapolya is not connected with Reich, and Sigismund feared that he'd be surrounded by hostile alliance, which is not something that Zapolya can achieve.
So expect war of Bohemian-Hungarian succesion.
Anna is widowed and of age so neither Louis or Sigismund can marry her against her will. In OTL she was NOT engaged to Ferdinand of Austria at the Congress of Vienna, but again to a not specified grandson of Maximilian with the agreement who she would marry the Emperor if neither grandson accepted to marry her in a year.
ATL she can marry only Maximilian as both Charles and Ferdinand are already engaged/married elsewhere
 
Actually, ITTL Ferdinand is accepted as heir of his grandfather by the Cortes of Castile and Aragon and marries Isabella of Portugal. Meanwhile otl Charles v marries Mary Tudor. So at the Congress of Vienna, Maximilian is the only Habsburg male available so Anna is betrothed to him.

But as a widow of Maximilian, she'd remain in Vienna.

Anna is widowed and of age so neither Louis or Sigismund can marry her against her will. In OTL she was NOT engaged to Ferdinand of Austria at the Congress of Vienna, but again to a not specified grandson of Maximilian with the agreement who she would marry the Emperor if neither grandson accepted to marry her in a year.
ATL she can marry only Maximilian as both Charles and Ferdinand are already engaged/married elsewhere

And did OP mention her marriage to Maximilian? And I did not state that she couldn't marry Zapolya. Just simply stated that Bohemians won't accept Zapolya as their king and a lot of Hungarian nobility did not like him, so they'd turn to Sigismund as a candidate for their thrones.
 
But as a widow of Maximilian, she'd remain in Vienna.



And did OP mention her marriage to Maximilian? And I did not state that she couldn't marry Zapolya. Just simply stated that Bohemians won't accept Zapolya as their king and a lot of Hungarian nobility did not like him, so they'd turn to Sigismund as a candidate for their thrones.
Yes, is mentioned twice in the previous post on Europe and also in that post Anne is called step grandmother of Emperor Charles. Sigismund (or Charles) will likely get Bohemia but a Zapolya married to Anne will secure Hungary without too much troubles
 
Yes, is mentioned twice in the previous post on Europe and also in that post Anne is called step grandmother of Emperor Charles. Sigismund (or Charles) will likely get Bohemia but a Zapolya married to Anne will secure Hungary without too much troubles

Charles has like...no rights to Bohemia and is not liked by the estates (old Imperial ability to nominate Bohemian heir in absence of natural heir was revoked by Charles IV), and as far as Zapolya is concerned, disagree. The people who supported Ferdinand IOTL did this not only because they cared about Anna, but they didn't like Zapolya and saw him as unfit to rule Hungary, so I expect war of Hungarian succesion between Sigismund and Zapolya.
 
1528-1529
(Author's note: I decided to change Anna of Hungary's husband see previous post for more).

Queen Anna of Bohemia and Hungary gives birth to her first born child, a son who she called Maximilian in honor of her first husband. She and her husband Ernest make Charles the godfather as a peace offering. They would go on to have fifteen children.

Emperor Charles is in no mood to be flattered. Not even the birth of his third daughter makes him any less angry at both his stepgrandmother's actions, nor his brother's betrayal. Even worse is the pope's stanch refusal to intervene on his behalf. To make matters even more humiliating, with the combined strength of France, Spain and England, he is forced to concede Flanders as well as Milan to the French as part of the peace agreement. He returns to Vienna, to lick his wounds. [1].

Sigsmund of Poland is not thrilled that he was passed over in inheriting Hungary and Bohemia for his niece and her husband. However, he accepted the outcome so long as his daughter was able to marry the new Prince Maximilian and a future daughter married his son Sigsmund. [2].

King Francois was feeling pretty happy with all that he had accomplished. He installed his old friend Monty to Flanders to act as governor. After the passing of Claude, Francois had been reluctant to marry again, preferring just to spend time with his mistress. However, wanting more allies to curb the Hapsburg's influence, he decided to marry Hedwig Jagiellon [3], daughter of King Sigsmund of Poland. She was fifteen-years-old when she came to France. She greeted her stepchildren and husband warmly, showing a maturity and wisdom beyond her years. She even went out of her way to befriend Francois' mistress, Anne de Pisseleu d'Heilly, saying: "I come to this country as a stranger, I will need your guidance to navigate the court and the king." King Francois and Mademoiselle Anne were oddly charmed by her bluntness and honesty. She also managed to befriend her stepchildren in record time, perhaps using the same methods, her own stepmother had used to win her over.

Despite Ferdinand occupying some of his lands [4], King Henri of Navarre bore him no ill will. He even decided to betroth his newborn daughter Jeanne with Ferdinand and Isabella's son, Infante Juan who was born in the year before. This would end up paying off in the future. But for now the two monarchs struck up an odd friendship. Even more amusingly, theirs wives did too. Although Marguerite and Isabella were as different as day and night, they managed to grow quite close, writing to each other every other week.

England was not quite as happy. Just when King James had finally managed to get the Irish lords to surrender, the sweating sickness broke out, starting from London before spreading through the country. King James was forced to stay in Ireland, closeted with the newly named Earl of Tyrone which was uncomfortable for both men. Prince James was in Scotland which mercifully was spared the disease. Wales was not and he sent hundred of letters to his wife to make sure she was well, promising to return to Wales as soon as he could---without his mistress. Thankfully Princess Renee did not fall ill.

Prince Arthur, Prince Henry, Prince Alexander, Princess Margaret, Princess Dorthea and Princess Mary also escaped the deadly touch of the sweat, although it is a close call when one of Prince Arthur's companions falls ill after playing with him.

Unfortunately, the sweat does get one member of the family. Queen Margaret herself. Refusing to flee London, Margaret suddenly collapses one day, and spends days in bed, on the brink of death. The physician fears the worst and the remaining members of the council scramble begin to plan for Prince James' accession. "At least he is of age," one courtier notes grimly. "This way, we won't have to deal with the headache of a regency council."

Miraculously, Queen Margaret recovers to the relief of the entire country and none are as happy as her husband and children. "Oh, my Margaret, I am ashamed. despite knowing how strong you are, I doubt you and feared I would lose you forever," King James wrote.

Once things are settled and the sickness has finally been abated, the royal family make a beeline for London, ready to embrace the queen, mourn for the lives lost and celebrate those who survived.

In 1529, when England was recovering from the epidemic, Princess Renee would discover she was pregnant. It was agreed that she would give birth in Wales, some people even suggested Pembroke castle when the late King Henry VII was born. Thinking it might be a good omen, Queen Margaret agreed. James returned to his wife's side, wanting to take of her during her long months of pregnancy.

In November, Renee would give birth to a daughter [5] much to everyone's disappointment. The girl was named Anne after Renee's mother Anne of Brittany and her friend Anne Percy who was the girl's godmother.

1. Butterflied the Sack of Rome. No prisoner pope.

2. In real life, Sigsmund the Old's son did marry Anna's daughters. Catherine of Poland, his youngest daughter, married Prince John of Sweden. Here she is marrying Maximilian.

3. Hedwig of Poland was Sigsmund's daughter from his first marriage. She was born in 1513. Originally she was to marry King Gustav of Sweden but the marriage fell through because of his reformer leanings.

4. Ferdinand's grandfather, Ferdinand of Aragon managed to occupy half of Navarre in the 1510s. As you may have guessed, that's not going to matter in the long run.

5. Based off of OTL Anne d'Este who was born in 1531.
 
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Is this TL still alive?

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With France having the burgundian inheritance and Northern Italy under there control would that not but the House of Valos in the ascendancy
 
Family tree so I can remeber and not have to scoll through every time.
King James of Scots m. Queen Margaret I of England

1. Prince James Duke of Rothesay and Cornwall, Prince of Wales b. February 21, 1507 m. Renee of France b. October, 1510
1. Princess Anne born November 16, 1529​
2. Princess Margaret b. July 15,1508 m. Luís of Portugal, Duke of Beja b. March 3, 1506
3. Prince Arthur Duke of Ross. b. October 20, 1509
4. Prince Henry, Duke of Richmond, Earl of Pembroke b. April 10, 1512
5. Princess Dorothea, Duchess of Ferra, b. March 3, 1513
6. Prince Alexander Stewart, Duke of Somerset, Earl of Mar b. April 30, 1514
7. Princess Mary b. October 8, 1516.

Mary of England b. 1496 m. Holy Roman Emperor Charles b. 1500
1. Archduke Maximilian b. 1516
2. Archduchess Mary b. 1517
3. Archduchess Eleanor b. 1519
4. Archduke Felipe b. 1522
5. Archduke Charles b. 1525
6. Archduchess Joanna b. 1528

King Ferdinand III of Aragon and VI of Castile m. Isabella of Portugal b. 1503
1. Princess Catalina b. 1524
2. Princess Isabel b. 1526
3. Prince Juan b. 1527 will be married to Jeanne of Navarre b. 1528.
4. Princess Maria b. 1528
 
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Great to see this back will the Stewarts keep Calais or will it still fall to France or even restart the wars between England or know the kingdom of Britannica.

Will you keep this story going until the end of the century or dering the century after
 
1530-1533
The start of the new decade brought much change to England. Firstly, Princess Margaret and Princess Dorthea left their home country to marry Luis of Portugal, Duke of Benja [1] and Ercole II d'Este, Duke of Ferrara [2] respectfully. The two princesses were sent off with a fond and tearful goodbye.

There was also the matter of Prince Arthur and Princess Mary's marriage. As Margaret and James had already found domestic brides for the older sons, they sought to find a wife from the daughters of the German princes. Margaret sent a letter to his sister, asking for suggestions, making it clear that any duke with Lutheran sympathies was out of the question. As for Princess Mary the younger, they decided to betroth her to Sigismund Augustus of Poland. Now that their children were all married or engaged, they turned their sights on a greater matter.

In the spring of 1530, King James and Queen Margaret began to push for the union of crowns. To show a unity, they decided to marry Henry to Helen Stewart [3], the daughter of the late Earl of Lennox, and Alexander to Anne Bourchier [4], the only heir to the Earl of Essex in order in order to show that Scotland and England were equally important.

Cardinal Wolsey [5] and Alexander Stewart, Bishop of St. Andrews [6] worked tirelessly to convince both parliaments to accept the union of crowns. The discussion would last months turning into a years. Although, there was still hostility, King James and Queen Margaret's work for the past twenty years to entwine their two countries went a long way to making the official union an attractive prospect.

On November 22 1531, Prince Alexander was born much to cheers and joy of the people. He was named Alexander after Alexander the Great, one of James' personal heroes. (There was some grumbling by the English lords that he had chosen a name that had was shared by three kings of Scotland. He was called the Duke of Cornwall and the Duke of Rothsay. Although he was born in Wales, he was taken to London to be christened by the Archbishop of Canterbury. His godparents were the Holy Roman Emperor and the Holy Roman Empress along with the King and Queen of France.

After the christening, there was a full week of jousts and feasts. Then James and Renee would travel to Stirling where they would spend two years with Anne and Alexander.

Over in Navarre, while England was celebrating, the king and the queen had just suffered a blow. Prince Jean had been his mother's miracle as many thought she was too old at age thirty-nine. Jean of Navarre died in December, breaking his parents' hearts and making it almost certain that his sister Jeanne would succeed him.

Considering Jeanne was engaged to Prince Juan of Spain, this worried King Francois and he strongly suggested to his brother-in-law that they break break the betrothal and marry Jeanne to someone else, perhaps someone French. King Henri disagreed, noting in a letter that if he did so, it could insult King Ferdinand to the point that he might break the alliance and reconcile with Emperor Charles.

King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella were also worried, but for different reasons, and suggested that Jeanne should brought up alongside her groom to be. This was rejected by Marguerite and Henri who did not want to loose custody of their only child. Instead it was agreed that Jeanne would go to Spain when she turned fourteen.

Queen Hedwig of France gave birth a son. who Francois named Louis after his predecessor and his ancestor. Meanwhile the union of Brittany is finally complete and the son of Francois and Claude, Dauphin Francois is sent to Brittany to govern. He is engaged to Archduchess Mary in hopes of gaining peace, and allowing Burgundy to be eventual run by a descendant of Mary of Burgundy. His brother, Henri, is engaged to Catherine de Medici.

Over in Austria, Emperor Charles was still brooding over his loses. He and Mary would experience tragedy when Archduke Maximilian died of consumption at age sixteen. He had been engaged to his first cousin Catalina of Spain arranged by his grandmother, Joanna who had hoped this would bring the two brothers together. Instead, Archduke Philip would be engaged to Catalina while his brother, Charles would marry the daughter of Queen Anna of Hungary and Bohemia also named Anna.

More tragedy would strike when Empress Mary would contract a fever while pregnant with her seventh child. She would give birth to a stillborn and die in 1533 at age thirty-seven. Charles was bereft for many months, having lost his heir and his wife within a year.

Amidst the English court's morning of Empress Mary, the parliaments of England and Scotland finally vote on the union of the crowns. On July 23 1533, it is decreed that King James and Queen Margaret are officially known as King James and Queen Margaret of Great Britain.

1. Second son of King Manuel. In history, he never married.

2. OTL Renee of France's husband.

3. Helen Stewart is the daughter of the Earl of Lennox who was distantly related to King James. She was born sometime in the late 1510s to the early 1520s.

4. Anne Bouchier was the wife of Thomas Parr, the Baron Parr. She is quite scandalous.

5. Thanks to butterflies and a lack of stress caused by the Great Matter, Thomas Wolsey lives longer.

6. King James' illegitimate son. Again, thanks to butterflies and no war between Scotland and England, he is alive and well.
 
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King James of Scots m. Queen Margaret I of England

1. Prince James Duke of Rothesay and Cornwall, Prince of Wales b. February 21, 1507 m. Renee of France b. October, 1510
1. Princess Anne born November 16, 1529​
2. Princess Margaret b. July 15,1508 m. Luís of Portugal, Duke of Beja b. March 3, 1506
3. Prince Arthur Duke of Ross. b. October 20, 1509
4. Prince Henry, Duke of Richmond, Earl of Pembroke b. April 10, 1512
5. Princess Dorothea, Duchess of Ferra, b. March 3, 1513
6. Prince Alexander Stewart, Duke of Somerset, Earl of Mar b. April 30, 1514
7. Princess Mary b. October 8, 1516.

Mary of England b. 1496 m. Holy Roman Emperor Charles b. 1500
1. Archduke Maximilian b. 1516
2. Archduchess Mary b. 1517
3. Archduchess Eleanor b. 1519
4. Archduke Felipe b. 1522
5. Archduke Charles b. 1525
6. Archduchess Joanna b. 1528

King Ferdinand of III Aragon and VI 1504 of Castile m. Isabella of Portugal b. 1503
1. Princess Catalina b. 1524
2. Princess Isabel b. 1526
3. Prince Juan b. 1527 will be married to Jeanne of Navarre b. 1528.
4. Princess Maria b. 1528
Who is this Ferdinand III and VI?
 
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