WI: A major right wing terrorist attack leads to a crackdown

Chimera0205

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The year was 2003 and thousands of fans cheered 50 cent preformed his hit song In Da Club but right in the middle the song the stadium was rocked by a massive explosion. By the time the smoke cleared 300 lay dead and twice as many suffered series injurys. It didnt take Law enforcement officers too long to identify the perpetrators as part of a racist extremist group. This was the height of the terrorist panic and the federal authoritys have no choice but to crack down on right wing extremism. Suddendly the parts of FBI and homeland security taked with dealing with right wing extremism are flooded with funds, personnel and uneneding public support.

What happens from here?
 
The year was 2003 and thousands of fans cheered 50 cent preformed his hit song In Da Club but right in the middle the song the stadium was rocked by a massive explosion. By the time the smoke cleared 300 lay dead and twice as many suffered series injurys. It didnt take Law enforcement officers too long to identify the perpetrators as part of a racist extremist group. This was the height of the terrorist panic and the federal authoritys have no choice but to crack down on right wing extremism. Suddendly the parts of FBI and homeland security taked with dealing with right wing extremism are flooded with funds, personnel and uneneding public support.

What happens from here?
Prople start hating the alt-right almost a decade earlier
Also it would be interesting to see how it impacts politics
It is safe to assume that it would cause backlash against politicians who are considered too right-wing like Steve King
Also nationalist regimes would be seen with more suspicion and less admiration
 
Right-wing Trutherism kicks in: the concert bombing was a plot by Democrats to distract attention away from Muslim terrorism. Additionally, fellow-travellers of the racist-right comb through rap lyrics to find evidence that whites are being provoked by black militants into this kind of action("Not that we support violent reprisals, of course, but we're not the ones who started this war."). About half of Republicans believe the first theory, the other half believe the second, and a not-insiginifcant number manage the cognitive feat of believing both.

None of this dissaudes the FBI from investigating right-wing terror groups, though Republican leaders try to spin the bombers as lone-wolves, not connected with the wider conservative movement.
 

Chimera0205

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Right-wing Trutherism kicks in: the concert bombing was a plot by Democrats to distract attention away from Muslim terrorism. Additionally, fellow-travellers of the racist-right comb through rap lyrics to find evidence that whites are being provoked by black militants into this kind of action("Not that we support violent reprisals, of course, but we're not the ones who started this war."). About half of Republicans believe the first theory, the other half believe the second, and a not-insiginifcant number manage the cognitive feat of believing both.

None of this dissaudes the FBI from investigating right-wing terror groups, though Republican leaders try to spin the bombers as lone-wolves, not connected with the wider conservative movement.
Thats one thing to do when its one guy shooting up a church and only killing half a dozen people but you absolutely cant spin the second largest terrorist in US history that was undeniebly done by a sizeable group. Its a hell of alot harder to spin a couple dozen co conspirators as lone wolfs or false flag operators then one or two and its borderline impossible to spin 300 dead. Did you miss the part about this bieng done by a right wing extremist GROUP.
 
the GOP will down play it a down like the Oklahoma bombings if this but it will not work and we will see something like the Oklahoma bombing reactions
 
Right-wing Trutherism kicks in: the concert bombing was a plot by Democrats to distract attention away from Muslim terrorism. Additionally, fellow-travellers of the racist-right comb through rap lyrics to find evidence that whites are being provoked by black militants into this kind of action("Not that we support violent reprisals, of course, but we're not the ones who started this war."). About half of Republicans believe the first theory, the other half believe the second, and a not-insiginifcant number manage the cognitive feat of believing both.

None of this dissaudes the FBI from investigating right-wing terror groups, though Republican leaders try to spin the bombers as lone-wolves, not connected with the wider conservative movement.
Except that even after Charlottesville most republican spoke against White Supremacists
There is also the problem that this scenario is based on the idea of a right-wing terrorist attack at the start of the warof terror, meaning the pubblic reaction would be far stronger
 

Chimera0205

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the GOP will down play it a down like the Oklahoma bombings if this but it will not work and we will see something like the Oklahoma bombing reactions
Oklahama was one guy (maybe 2 if some fairly plasible theorys are to be believed) not an organized group and thus was easier to spin as a crazed lone wolf.
 
Right-wing Trutherism kicks in: the concert bombing was a plot by Democrats to distract attention away from Muslim terrorism. Additionally, fellow-travellers of the racist-right comb through rap lyrics to find evidence that whites are being provoked by black militants into this kind of action("Not that we support violent reprisals, of course, but we're not the ones who started this war."). About half of Republicans believe the first theory, the other half believe the second, and a not-insiginifcant number manage the cognitive feat of believing both.

None of this dissaudes the FBI from investigating right-wing terror groups, though Republican leaders try to spin the bombers as lone-wolves, not connected with the wider conservative movement.

While others will think, that it is the Government who did the bombing, so to take more of our rights away and to expand the Police State.
 
Thats one thing to do when its one guy shooting up a church and only killing half a dozen people but you absolutely cant spin the second largest terrorist in US history that was undeniebly done by a sizeable group. Its a hell of alot harder to spin a couple dozen co conspirators as lone wolfs or false flag operators then one or two and its borderline impossible to spin 300 dead. Did you miss the part about this bieng done by a right wing extremist GROUP.

Just like 9/11 with its group of culprits and almost 3000 casualties did not result in a myriad bullshit theories about the supposed agenda and perpetrators? Get a grip.
 
People cheer and conspiracy theorists on every side go wild. More neo-Nazis/KKK types go to prison.

there will be a hunt on the internet for these groups and this could lead to the death of the alt right

These types of white supremacists barely even used the Internet and thought Stormfront was run by Jews/was controlled opposition.

Prople start hating the alt-right almost a decade earlier
Also it would be interesting to see how it impacts politics
It is safe to assume that it would cause backlash against politicians who are considered too right-wing like Steve King
Also nationalist regimes would be seen with more suspicion and less admiration

How can anyone hate a movement which wouldn't exist for another decade? It's like saying the sinking of the Lusitania caused more people to hate the Nazis.

Right-wing Trutherism kicks in: the concert bombing was a plot by Democrats to distract attention away from Muslim terrorism. Additionally, fellow-travellers of the racist-right comb through rap lyrics to find evidence that whites are being provoked by black militants into this kind of action("Not that we support violent reprisals, of course, but we're not the ones who started this war."). About half of Republicans believe the first theory, the other half believe the second, and a not-insiginifcant number manage the cognitive feat of believing both.

Half of Republicans, seriously? You can't even get numbers that high for 9/11 truthers, and I'm pretty sure that Oklahoma City bomber conspiracies poll even lower as to number of believers. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of conspiracies are instead about how the government did it to start a race war to kill all blacks and other black nationalist sort of conspiracies. Given the history of conspiracy theories in some black nationalist circles along similar lines (government created AIDS/crack cocaine to kill black people), this is probably going to be the case.

None of this dissaudes the FBI from investigating right-wing terror groups, though Republican leaders try to spin the bombers as lone-wolves, not connected with the wider conservative movement.

But they already had during the 90s, and most of those groups had the majority of their (small) membership imprisoned.

Thats one thing to do when its one guy shooting up a church and only killing half a dozen people but you absolutely cant spin the second largest terrorist in US history that was undeniebly done by a sizeable group. Its a hell of alot harder to spin a couple dozen co conspirators as lone wolfs or false flag operators then one or two and its borderline impossible to spin 300 dead. Did you miss the part about this bieng done by a right wing extremist GROUP.

Oklahoma City was almost entirely done by two people. You don't need a big group to commit a terrorist attack. Just look at the Aryan Republican Army, The Order, and other neo-Nazi terrorists in the US. Those weren't big groups.
 
Just like 9/11 with its group of culprits and almost 3000 casualties did not result in a myriad bullshit theories about the supposed agenda and perpetrators? Get a grip.
Except none of them were taken seriously
Also if this attack had been real, it would have happened a few years after 9/11 meaning that islamic terrorism and alt-right would be considered 2 faces of the same coin
 
I can see the Anarchist types going nuts over the narrative of "Oh the Government did so they can take more your rights away" added to whatever their narrative is on Government and Statism.
 

Chimera0205

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Just like 9/11 with its group of culprits and almost 3000 casualties did not result in a myriad bullshit theories about the supposed agenda and perpetrators? Get a grip.
And no one actually took 9/11 truthers seriously. No matter how undeniable the evidence is theres always gonna be that one nutjob calling it conspiracy. But that's the thing. Its a NUTJOB. No one took 9/11 truthers seriously.
 
And no one actually took 9/11 truthers seriously. No matter how undeniable the evidence is theres always gonna be that one nutjob calling it conspiracy. But that's the thing. Its a NUTJOB. No one took 9/11 truthers seriously.

You can’t kill ideas. Just look at Islamic terrorism.
i was saying that online just like with Islamic terrorism onlin the usa increased it a lot by investigating for any possible connections and to find radicalized people cougu nsa cough I was not saying the destrcution and with the support of powerful people could yes that happened
 

Chimera0205

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i was saying that online just like with Islamic terrorism onlin the usa increased it a lot by investigating for any possible connections and to find radicalized people cougu nsa cough I was not saying the destrcution and with the support of powerful people could yes that happened
I wonder if the NSA directly targeting right wingers with thier spying will change the rights tune on NSA spying and how being against it is UNAMERICAN!? and "letting the terrorist win"
 
The standard US right-wing defence to Nazi allegations is to state that the Nazis are leftists- because Nazi= "German National Socialist Worker's Party", which means that the Nazis are just Commies who really hate Jews, Christians and American freedom, and that the Democrat(ic) party are thus closer to being Nazis.

The more Randian elements simply view Nazi-ism as another form of collectivism, and thus an enemy of their individualist viewpoint.
 
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