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Tbh I'm a bit new at this but I will add some in 👍
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Well, this'll get ugly. The Soviets have an enormous conventional advantage on the continent and the Anglo-Americans are not set-up to deliver atomic weapons into the USSR: bomb-pits weren't established in Britain until the fall, atomic storage facilities weren't built until the early-50s and the Middle Eastern bases were never made ready plus overall readiness of the units themselves was poor, riddled with crippling training and maintenance defect. The western operational plan to defend the Middle East, a British one codenamed "Sandown", was basically a fantasy.
Where the Soviets run into a problem is that once they've seized everything they could (continental Western Europe, the Middle East, all of continental Asia contiguous with the USSR), their basically presented with the same problem the Germans were after winning in France: "What the fuck do we do now?" They have no good options in bringing the war to Britain or America. That gives the Anglo-Americans all the time in the world to build up their conventional and nuclear forces in Britain. It may take SAC two years to work out it's problems, but their fucked past that second year of war. Maybe, if their lucky, they'll land some atom bombs on Britain or Japan in late-'49 or early-'50. But that'll be awhile.
eeeeeeeeeeeeee I love apportionment stuff! fun times, I'm very excitedDon't wanna get too far ahead of myself but I want you all to know I taught myself how apportionment equations work just for this timeline.
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With a World War III that breaks out in 1948 just three years after its predecessor conflict the world is going to not want another war of this scale ever happen in a millennia. Pop culture and sports will irrevocably changed much less compared to 1962 and 1983 when the Soviets actually had a decent nuclear arsenal. Eastern Europe is going to be devastated very badly in this conflict.Don't wanna get too far ahead of myself but I want you all to know I taught myself how apportionment equations work just for this timeline.
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No, it is "still" a conventional war, I think Stalin started this was at this time because Russia itself could not be attacked directly with nukes (he didn't care about the rest). As soon as Russia has Nukes, he will use them (outside of Russia). It is a strange situation, that the only targets for these Nukes are outside the core coutry of both nucelar powersOh, fuck.
The only good thing about this war, it's that it's a conventional one, rather than a nuclear holocaust.
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Yes, but very little "hard" information on the location of the targets that they need to hit, Russian infrastructure, location of factories, even towns was not known by the Allied Forces.Confused the Americans have the Flying Fortress bombers that could fly from Canada in to Siberia whilst not where the fighting is it would still hurt Russia the same goes for Japan the American can his the island that the Russians took and as an after thought could again bomb Russia and they could even hit the Russians from the the Middle East lots of option.
Confused the Americans have the Flying Fortress bombers that could fly from Canada in to Siberia whilst not where the fighting is it would still hurt Russia the same goes for Japan the American can his the island that the Russians took and as an after thought could again bomb Russia and they could even hit the Russians from the the Middle East lots of option.
Taking out Baku and Ploiesti is AFAIK sufficient to make the USSR have a very bad time.They couldn't hit Russia where it would matter the most. They still may very well hit those regions if needed though.
In 1948 Western allied readiness is basically nill, that sort of bombing is probably going to take 6 months to a year to set up, by which point the Soviets have probably reached the Pyrennes, and will likely be moot as the B-36 will be rushed into service to start hitting Russian cities with nukesI’ve mentioned this in some other threads. Russia never experienced the effects of strategic bombing on the scale that had been unleashed on Germany and Japan. Imagine the psychological effects just 500 Lancaster bombers would have on massed Russian troops. Remember the Wallies know every possible marshaling area in Germany and Austria. A round the clock bombing campaign of Lancasters, B-17s, B-24s, and B-29s would be hell on earth for the Russian forces. The Wallies wouldnt even need much accuracy. Just turn eastern Germany into a moonscape. That’s not even counting the Wallies tactical airpower.
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What's the status of the B-36? What about stripped down and extra fuel tanked RB-29's to recon and find the targets?Yes, but very little "hard" information on the location of the targets that they need to hit, Russian infrastructure, location of factories, even towns was not known by the Allied Forces.
The Allies understood fully that they stood at an initial disadvantage. The very fresh Operation Doorknock plans took this into account. The plan was to hold out in Germany until the allies, and more specifically America could fully mobilize. Multiple fall back lines were designated back to the Rhine and even the Maginot with more fortification built upon each. When the criteria are fully met the Allies would break the Soviet assault and push back.
Taking out Baku and Ploiesti is AFAIK sufficient to make the USSR have a very bad time.
I’ve mentioned this in some other threads. Russia never experienced the effects of strategic bombing on the scale that had been unleashed on Germany and Japan. Imagine the psychological effects just 500 Lancaster bombers would have on massed Russian troops. Remember the Wallies know every possible marshaling area in Germany and Austria. A round the clock bombing campaign of Lancasters, B-17s, B-24s, and B-29s would be hell on earth for the Russian forces. The Wallies wouldnt even need much accuracy. Just turn eastern Germany into a moonscape. That’s not even counting the Wallies tactical airpower.
What's the status of the B-36?
What about stripped down and extra fuel tanked RB-29's to recon and find the targets?