This isn’t really the case in most of the world by 2022, given that there never was an equivalent either to our world’s Cold War or War on Terrorism.
There’s no equivalent to WikiLeaks by 2022.
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This isn’t really the case in most of the world by 2022, given that there never was an equivalent either to our world’s Cold War or War on Terrorism.
There’s no equivalent to WikiLeaks by 2022.
By 2022, the three Far Southwest states have been assimilated into the United States, with the majority in each state being English-speaking; the Spanish-speaking communities in each state tend to be first generation immigrants.
All regions of the USA are politically assimilated/integrated into the wider country by 2022, although some regions are economically better off than others. For example, the Canadian states, Far Southwest, and Cuba are better off economically than the Midsouth.
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And not to belabor the issue but does politically also mean culturally and personally ? Im sure its been addressed up thread but how common is the desire for a return to Canada or the CSA across the population and expressed in separatist groups or parties and what have you over 100 years on in what was Canada and nearly 80 in what was the CSA ?
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Not even the JWR or the Ecos that came after them had a massive surveillance state? Or was the JWR more comparable to East Germany and their Statsi more than the modern day NSA?
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The JWR was similar for most of its history to East Germany.
The Ecological Union initially moved away from any kind of surveillance state, but over time developed a system of encouraging its citizens to “voluntarily” report on anyone suspected of ideological opposition. The Ecological Union, over time, eventually comes to resemble the dystopian future society as shown in the movie Interstellar.
Separatist groups in the Midsouth and Canadian states, where they exist, are far on the political fringe in both regions by 2022. There’s no real desire in either region for the restoration of either the former Dominion of Canada or the former CSA.
Some more questions:
-How conservative is German political culture compared to the early 20th century? And what's the status of other german monarchies such as the Bavarian royal family?
-How effective would the militaries of the great powers of OTL be compared to the great powers of OTL?
-In OTL, American historians have something called "The Big 3 of American History," consisting of the Revolution, Civil War, and WW2. They have this name due to being the most popular historical subjects in US History. Has the First Great War replaced the Civil War in that position ITTL (if the big three are still a thing, that is). Also, how are the wars from the Second Mexican War up to the Second Great War tackled in American pop-culture like movies ITTL (compared to OTL)?
-Following that up, how do other countries tackle the SGW in their media?
-What was media (mainly movies) like in the Empire of Japan, JWR, and Ecoist Japan? I recall something about Syndicalist realism, so I'd assume a mixture of Soviet films mixed with North Koran propaganda for the JWR (The latter in the Empire of Japan as well).
-Lastly, what was wartime propaganda like in the 4th Pacific War compared to OTLs Pacific War?
-How conservative is German political culture compared to the early 20th century? And what's the status of other german monarchies such as the Bavarian royal family?
-How effective would the militaries of the great powers of OTL be compared to the great powers of OTL?
-In OTL, American historians have something called "The Big 3 of American History," consisting of the Revolution, Civil War, and WW2. They have this name due to being the most popular historical subjects in US History. Has the First Great War replaced the Civil War in that position ITTL (if the big three are still a thing, that is). Also, how are the wars from the Second Mexican War up to the Second Great War tackled in American pop-culture like movies ITTL (compared to OTL)?
-Following that up, how do other countries tackle the SGW in their media?
-What was media (mainly movies) like in the Empire of Japan, JWR, and Ecoist Japan? I recall something about Syndicalist realism, so I'd assume a mixture of Soviet films mixed with North Koran propaganda for the JWR (The latter in the Empire of Japan as well).
-Lastly, what was wartime propaganda like in the 4th Pacific War compared to OTLs Pacific War?
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By 2022, there are different ways to define oneself as “conservative” in the German Empire. Some on the political right tend towards the nationalist parties, while others might be primarily concerned about social issues; one of the most powerful political parties in the German Empire by 2022 is the Center Party. Others on the political right might be primarily concerned about economic issues, and tend toward parties or factions rooted in economic liberalism.
To summarize, there is a broad political right in the German Empire by 2022, but voters on the right tend to focus on specific issues or causes.
By 2022, the other aristocratic families in the German Empire have clearly defined public/constitutional roles. They’re also firmly part of the German Empire’s celebrity culture.
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It depends on the great power in question. The militaries of all great powers would be definite conventional challenges for the OTL US military of 2022, though the militaries of the great powers are somewhat behind our world with some kinds of technologies, such as stealth, or drones, or the integration of digital communications for military purposes.
Bharat, Brazil, Russia, the German Empire, and the Austro-Hungarian Empires all have more powerful militaries in comparison to their respective OTL counterparts.
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By 2022, there’s not really an equivalent among US historians to a “Big Three” of major wars. The American Revolution, the two Great Wars, and the Fourth Pacific War are the conflicts that are focused on the most in US culture. In the long term, the four wars between the USA and CSA will probably be grouped together, both by academics and the general public, as the North American Wars.
By 2022, the War of Secession and Second Mexican War are not really popular subjects in US culture, regardless of medium. There’s not really a popular audience in the USA for settings in which the country loses a war.
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By 2022, the Second Great War tends to be a more popular setting for fiction in the USA, German Empire, and Austro-Hungarian Empire, in comparison to the United Kingdom, France, and Russia.
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In the JWR, the first generation of movies tended to be strongly ideological in nature, in line with the priorities of Syndicalist Realism: most approved narratives centered around the conversion of a character from being politically “ignorant” to being a true believer in Syndicalism. For movies with historical settings, the narratives were required to celebrate the lower classes/peasantry: imagine Seven Samurai if there had been no samurai.
Later in the life of the JWR, the ideological fervor began to lessen. By the ascension of Himura Tamiko as the country’s last People’s Friend in the 1990s, a lot of movies in the JWR wouldn’t have been out of place in the Warsaw Pact nations of the 1970s: an emphasis on being satisfied with one’s lot in life, of not expecting anything new.
Himura Tamiko attempted to create her own cult of personality while in power, including through movies. Some movies went as far as to brazenly rewrite history to put Himura at the center of all important events in the life of the JWR. This attempted cult of personality never took hold before the fall of the JWR in the early 2010s.
The Ecological Union initially removed all restrictions on filmmaking and after coming to power. However, the movies of the Ecological Union gradually came to reflect the priories of the regime’s ideological shifts. By 2162, entertainment is produced for a public in the Ecological Union that has been taught that powered flight and space exploration are myths, and that one should aspire to nothing more and nothing less than life as a farmer.
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US propaganda during the Fourth Pacific War had a number of continuities with US propaganda during the Second Great War, with Ishii Yamada substituting for Jake Featherston. One thing that US propaganda made a point not to do was to demonize all Japanese people, or Japanese-Americans.
By 2162, the Ecological Union doesn’t deny the existence of flight in general, only the idea that powered flight is technologically feasible. Such craft, when they do appear over the Ecological Union, are described along the lines of “unidentified flying creatures.”
Yes, in a couple of elections. But it was only one state in each election, under unusual circumstances.
What was the cultural impact of superbombs and superbombings IOTL? And how does post-war media about the bomb compare to OTL counterparts (As in, is there as much of a focus on the Superbomb and atomic sciences as there were IOTL)?
Also, I assume something akin to movies like Barefoot Gen or even some allegorical films were made in either Britain or France.
And I don't remember if it was mentioned in the books, but how long did it take for the great powers to learn of the side effects of the Superbombings and who handled it the best and worst during the SGW?
And what kind of film genres are most popular in the US as of the 2010s/2020s? What are the Monty Python crew up to ITTL?
Lastly, after reading about how the Action Française treated the Jewish population of France, what kind of nasty stuff did Tsarist Russia do during the war and how are Russian Jews doing as of 2021? Is there still a significant population?
Also, I assume something akin to movies like Barefoot Gen or even some allegorical films were made in either Britain or France.
And I don't remember if it was mentioned in the books, but how long did it take for the great powers to learn of the side effects of the Superbombings and who handled it the best and worst during the SGW?
And what kind of film genres are most popular in the US as of the 2010s/2020s? What are the Monty Python crew up to ITTL?
Lastly, after reading about how the Action Française treated the Jewish population of France, what kind of nasty stuff did Tsarist Russia do during the war and how are Russian Jews doing as of 2021? Is there still a significant population?
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So they don't even have airports, much less have any sort of aircraft, I'm assuming. When did they demolish all of their airports?
The Tsarists are stated to go the route of outright massacre and extermination of Jews and anyone they deem "undesirable"; perhaps there are even some deported to Siberia as well. They for sure had help from collaborators wherever they invaded. This is switching from a longtime policy of sporadic pogroms and state terrorism of OTL, to finishing them off once and for all, basically mirroring what the Nazis did to the Jews during the Holocaust. This is even acknowledged by Saul Goldman himself, and even thought/knew that what the Russians were doing was almost no different than what the CSA was doing to its blacks. Not only that, he even thanked Featherston for not scapegoating Jews in the CSA. The French would not have directly gone that route like their fellow Entente allies.
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