The Union Forever: A TL

I also agree to Rowland running for a Third term. He seems to be one of the best presidents that America has had so far. Although the matter of him running for a third term all depends on the Chinese situation. If China has backed down and shows no visible signs of aggression then Rowland might be inclined to leave Washington on a high note. However if he runs with China not seeming to get close to the brink of war, then there might be some opposition from Conservatives who believe the president should only serve two terms while the Democrats will paint him as a tyrant. If China is looking to conquer Japan or is going full North Korea by wanting to nuke America, then Rowland gets all the justification he needs. Hope he leads us to victory in the war.

By the way Mac Gregor, I know it might be too much to ask but can we have threadmarks? I want to read the old chapters but I can't find them because of the difficulty of sorting through 334 pages of posts.
 
By the way Mac Gregor, I know it might be too much to ask but can we have threadmarks? I want to read the old chapters but I can't find them because of the difficulty of sorting through 334 pages of posts.

I don't think he can. If I recall correctly, the thread was started by a different account of his that was lost. It may or may not take an appeal to the mods to make the new account the thread owner, if they can even change such a thing.
 

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I'm loving the TL so far, good job!
What of Pop Culture ITTL? Does Video Gaming rise up? Who are the main companies?
Popular books? Music? Television?
 
I don't think he can. If I recall correctly, the thread was started by a different account of his that was lost. It may or may not take an appeal to the mods to make the new account the thread owner, if they can even change such a thing.

It might be possible to incorporate old account to new account.
 
2012: Foreign and Domestic Developments
2012


Foreign and Domestic Developments



In January, Nevada became the first U.S. state to approve the use of autonomous automobiles, popular known as “aut-auts.” Several companies were working on aut-aut designs including Sentinel, VisQuest, and Autotopia but a practical model for the mass market was still a few years away.

The
XIX Winter Olympiad was held in Burlington, Vermont the first winter Olympics to be held in the United States since 1960.

The civil war in the Republic of the Umbangi intensified as
Nigeria deployed troops to prop up the existing government against Colonel Den Ayandho’s rebels. In response West Africa began covertly backing Muslim separatists in northern Nigeria resulting in a slew of bombings and drive by shootings. Later in the year, Congolese troops would be reported operating north of the Umbangi river despite official denials coming from Lukunga.

Still reeling from last year’s embarrassment over the Ryukyu Islands Crisis, Chinese Executive Yu Qishan made several provocative statements regarding the status of the Khanates of Mongolia and Uyghurstan resulting in forceful posturing by the Russians to protect their sphere of influence. Several analysts viewed these outbursts as signs that Yu might be losing his grip on power.

In the summer, the Kingdom of Tonga ended its protected state status regaining total control over its foreign affairs. Tonga under Queen Mele Tupou VI, who had recently transformed the nation into a constitutional monarchy, opted to stay a member of the ComNat.

On September 3, the research and development section of the German firm Krupp AG unveiled a new type of
smart ammunition. Known as Die Wespe, the round could track its target when illuminated by a laser designator, updating its flight path dozens of times per second.

In November, Peter Rowland became only the second American president in history to ever be elected to a third term. A strong economy and his deft handling of continuing technocratic aggression convinced a majority of voters to stick with Rowland and the Republicans. Although it was Rowlands closest presidential election to day, many Democrats were still apoplectic about yet another electoral defeat. Despite the loss, the Democratic candidates Governors Caleb Greenhalgh of Pennsylvania and Roger Lefevre of Panama acquitted themselves well with Lefevre becoming a rising star in the party.

On December 21, 86 members of a neo-Mayan cult committed
mass suicide at a remote camp in the Yucatán Peninsula. The Mexican government of President Amalia Orozco was criticized for ignoring warning signs that the group was planning something dangerous on the supposed end-date of the 5,126-year Mesoamerican Long Count calendar.


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2012 Presidential Election​
 
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Either we are heading to another war in Asia in the near future or we are about to see a break up of the Chinese like we did with the Soviets OTL.
 
It seems that China is going to war against Russia and/or PTO or then Chinese leadership understand that Yu is too dangerous for their intersts and oust him from office.

Africa seems being going towards bigger war.
 
In the style of recent posts, I give you Canada's political parties as of 2010:

Recently, Canadian politics have not only been split along the standard western right-left alignment, but also on weather Canada should be aligned with the Commonwealth of Nations or the League of American Republics. This split, which had been evident since the League's earliest days but only recently came to a head, leading to the split of the Conservatives and the defection of many Liberals to more left-wing parties. Thus, while coalition governments had existed before, they have been much more common in the last few decades, with the last single-party government falling after the election of 1997. The Republicans, those who support joining the LAR, are more politically polarized than the Monarchists, who support the Commonwealth, meaning that the moderate Monarchist parties have been able to form coalitions and maintain power in some form; their has never been a Republican government.

Conservative Party: More commonly known as the Progressive Conservatives or the Liberal Conservatives since the split of 1993, although no their has been no official name change, is largely center-right with some further right members, it supports mostly free markets, traditional values, remaining in the ComNat, and staying under the British Monarchy. Divided between Red Tories, who support moderate economic regulation and closer ties with the Liberal Party, and the Blue Tories, who strongly support a free market free of regulation. The Reds currently hold the party leadership, and participate as junior partners in a coalition with the Liberals.

Liberal Party: The Liberals were effected much less by the recent Republican Monarchist divide; A small portion of their members have joined the Republican parties further to the left, but their has been no major split like their was in the Conservative Party. Center to Center-Left economically, supporting higher taxes to support social programs, but also supporting only moderate regulations on the economy in recent years. They support the ComNat, and are generally very socially liberal. Despite this, they work well with the Red Tories due to similar positions on the economy and the Commonwealth, and are currently leading a coalition government with them.

Canadian Party: The Canadian Party, also known as the Nationalists, were formed in the split of 1993 from right-wing, Republican members of the Conservative Party, taking roughly half the parties MPs and base with them. Economically, they support largely protectionist policies outside of the free trade agreement in the LAR, but lower taxes and less spending on social programs; they are Right-Wing and even Far-Right when it comes to most issues. Socially, they support mostly traditional values, but also a strong national Canadian identity that transcendence religion or language. They also support strong limits on immigration, especially outside of the groups already established in Canadian culture.

Labour Party: Formed out of the industrialist labor unions of the early days of the Confederation, the Labour Party has been largely unchanged. They are a left-wing, socialist party, supporting the nationalization of key industries, worker protection, and strong economic regulations. They were the earliest supporters of Canadian republicanism, although not every member supports the LAR, with some claiming the organization's economic policies will endanger worker's rights. Has strong ties to the Farmer's Party, due to similar economic positions, and the fact that they rarely run in the same ridings.

Farmer's Party: Formed out of state parties to protect farmer's rights, the party is left-wing economically, having an agrarian socialist background, but is also frequently socially conservative, again due to its rural roots. Strongly Republican and pro-LAR. Has an unofficial alliance with the Labour Party.

Parti Quebec Libre: A Socially Liberal and Social Democratic party founded to have a voice for Quebec interests in parliament. One of the loosest party organizations in Canada, it is split into too factions: those who want Quebec to become independent (themselves split on weather an independent Quebec would be a Republic or a Monarchy), and those who simply want to push for cultural, linguistic, and political autonomy (this faction is usually pro-commonwealth. Current participating in the grand coalition between the Conservatives and the Liberals.

Ecoist Party: A center-left party founded on ecoist ideals. Neutral on the issue of Republicanism.

Technocratic Party: Supports the establishment of a Technocratic State and joining the TU. Highly authoritarian and Krulikist due to moderate technocrats being largely centered in the Labour Party.
 
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2012


Domestic Developments



In November, Peter Rowland became only the second American president in history to ever be elected to a third term. A strong economy and his deft handling of continuing technocratic aggression convinced a majority of voters to stick with Rowland and the Republicans. Although it was Rowlands closest presidential election to day, many Democrats were still apoplectic about yet another electoral defeat. Despite the loss, the Democratic candidates Governors Caleb Greenhalgh of Pennsylvania and Roger Lefevre of Panama acquitted themselves well with Lefevre becoming a rising star in the party.


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2012 Presidential Election​
Where's Puerto Rico?
 
What's the status of DC voting rights? There's not been a 23rd Amendment evidently, so is DC in an entirely worse position than present day OTL?

Great work BTW. Read the whole thing over the weekend and it's fantastic.

Oh, BTW, what's been going on in my home state of Utah in this timeline? It got statehood only four years earlier ITTL and it looks to have reliably voted democrat, so has everything gone basically the same as IOTL there except that totally not SpaceX is there?
 
What's the status of DC voting rights? There's not been a 23rd Amendment evidently, so is DC in an entirely worse position than present day OTL?

Great work BTW. Read the whole thing over the weekend and it's fantastic.

Oh, BTW, what's been going on in my home state of Utah in this timeline? It got statehood only four years earlier ITTL and it looks to have reliably voted democrat, so has everything gone basically the same as IOTL there except that totally not SpaceX is there?

Glad you have enjoyed the TL, thanks for the support. To answer your questions...

1) D.C. currently doesn't have any federal voting rights. However, D.C. does have a fair degree of power delegated from Congress to elected city goverments (known as Home Rule in OTL). I will be discussing an important development regarding the district next update.

2) Utah has been doing well ITTL and has a growing population. Like you said it is an important center for some American space companies. It's border with Nevada is in a slightly different spot than OTL. Do you have any suggestions for Utah?
 
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By the way Mac Gregor, I know it might be too much to ask but can we have threadmarks? I want to read the old chapters but I can't find them because of the difficulty of sorting through 334 pages of posts.

I don't think he can. If I recall correctly, the thread was started by a different account of his that was lost. It may or may not take an appeal to the mods to make the new account the thread owner, if they can even change such a thing.

It might be possible to incorporate old account to new account.

Any plans for threadmarks in this thread?

Great question about adding threadmarks. As mentioned my original account was linked to my university email which has long been defunct. I don't know if the admin can grant me access or not.
 
I'm loving the TL so far, good job!
What of Pop Culture ITTL? Does Video Gaming rise up? Who are the main companies?
Popular books? Music? Television?

Thanks for the support Beta.003. There is certainly video gaming ITTL. I've mentioned a few of the companies in the past but don't have a comprehensive list. If anyone has any suggestions for games or brands they would like to see in the TL send me a message. Music has been covered, and there are a slew of alternate genres. Audio and electronic books are gaining a wider share if the market.
 
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