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Not following the Bushido code of Honour and being Japanese..... I sense a major problem for Mr. Kishi about to enter stage left.....


Oh, if it's strictly on Bushido terms, then Kishi should have already commited seppuku. Thus far, he:

-Failed to take up arms against those who would do Japan and the Emperor harm

-Lives in luxury while others endure the privations of war

-Violated his own family's honour and vows to his wife

-Attempted rape, and of an officer's wife at that.

-Was bested in wits and strength by said woman

The last one alone alone is good enough reason:

Kishi endured a humiliating beating at Capt. Yoshioka and Lt. Miyabara's hands. Worse for Kishi, they thought him so unworthy an opponent, they couldn't even be bothered to kill him- a sign that they had no fear of him. True Bushido does not permit the slaughter of a defenceless opponent.
 
Oh, if it's strictly on Bushido terms, then Kishi should have already commited seppuku. Thus far, he:

-Failed to take up arms against those who would do Japan and the Emperor harm

-Lives in luxury while others endure the privations of war

-Violated his own family's honour and vows to his wife

-Attempted rape, and of an officer's wife at that.

-Was bested in wits and strength by said woman

The last one alone alone is good enough reason:

Kishi endured a humiliating beating at Capt. Yoshioka and Lt. Miyabara's hands. Worse for Kishi, they thought him so unworthy an opponent, they couldn't even be bothered to kill him- a sign that they had no fear of him. True Bushido does not permit the slaughter of a defenceless opponent.

Again, Kishi's whole life proves how much that whole "bushido" thing is a whole scam.

The same way that Himmler's chickenshit and chickenhawk behavior disproves the supposed valor of Nazism.
 
While there is no one unified Bushido code, there are Seven Virtues:


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of which the OTL WWII IJA upheld precisely none
 
You know, we have a number of well known figures here. I wonder if one particular Canadian will show up. Said Canadian being Leo Major.

Because there’s “Badass” and there’s “I managed to capture an entire city from the Nazis on my lonesome with no backup”.
 
You know, we have a number of well known figures here. I wonder if one particular Canadian will show up. Said Canadian being Leo Major.

Because there’s “Badass” and there’s “I managed to capture an entire city from the Nazis on my lonesome with no backup”.

And refusing to get the medal he got for it to be pinned on by Monty because Major thought that Monty was an incompetent and unworthy to do so!
 
And refusing to get the medal he got for it to be pinned on by Monty because Major thought that Monty was an incompetent and unworthy to do so!
actually that was his first one for capturing 93 german soldiers by himself that he refused the medal. capturing a city solo was his first medal and capturing a hill in korea with snipers in close quarters was his second.
 
The Kishi Affair: Supplement
From the archives of Asahi Shimbun, February 23rd, 1943

"COAL KING OF FUSHUN" FACES TWO TRIALS

Reporting from Hsinking, Manchukuo and Dairen, Kwantung Territory.

NOTORIOUS playboy businessman Nobusuke Kishi's legal woes have no end in sight. As President and Managing Director of Fushun Coal and Aggregates KK, Kishi now faces a class-action lawsuit regarding the quality of FC&A's products. A consortium comprising Mitsui and Company, Kawasaki subsidiary Kawasaki Kissen Kaisha (K-Line), South Manchurian Railway, Trans-Manchurian Railway and Toyoda Automatic Loom Ltd. brought suit against Kishi and FC&A in a Hsinking court today.

The consortium brings forth a series of charges which allege that FC&A, under Kishi's instructions, knowingly shipped substandard coal and construction aggregates in breach of contract, and in the case of the two railways, violations of the Manchukuo Weights and Measures Act, routinely taring railcar scales improperly and shorting weights. According to a K-Line representative, speaking on condition of anonymity: "(Kishi) has cheated us time and time again, with shipments well below specified grade, short in weight, and often entirely unusable. Such business practices are despicable during peacetime, but downright dangerous with a war going on. Both the Army and Navy depend on K-Line contract shipping, and we can no longer tolerate these actions. If a ship trying to burn inferior or contaminated coal cannot keep pace with the convoy, the troops deprived of the supplies will suffer"

A spokesperson for FC&A called the allegations "ridiculous" and a "Zaibatsu Conspiracy... targeting Kishi, who in Manchukuo's early days, tried to prevent them from gaining excess power and influence"
 
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Seems someone is going after Kishi's wealth- terrible shame.


The allegations that Kishi faces there are very serious ones. Although the word itself is never used, what he's doing, according to the companies, is tantamount to profiteering. He is not just engaging in sketchy business practices, but said practices directly impede the war effort.

Granted, part of it is political. Kishi worked with Tojo and Doihara in the pre-Muto years to keep the Zaibatsu out of Manchukuo. Kishi has money, but nothing compared to Mitsui, Kawasaki and Toyoda. It also doesn't help Kishi any that all of them are, or are effectively defence contractors as well. Kishi's business had to resort to other ways to ensure maximum profits...
 
Does Kishi still even have friends right now? Tojo is disgraced for the crushing defeat at Xuzhou. Doihara has been forced into early retirement for opium addiction. Worse, Kishi has earned the enmity of an Imperial cadet line, the Higashikuni IIRC, as the wife of the junior officer he tried to rape was a subordinate of Prince Higashikuni's son. Count Terauchi has already made it clear he's not going to cross good officers for some upstart merchant who's not even a good one. Ditto for Marshal Hata.

The zaibatsu despise him for not playing ball: they might not like competition, but they're prepared to compromise as that's only good business, except Kishi doesn't want to even consider compromise. And again, he's not even a good businessman, if his goods are junk and his services crooked.

And even the hard-right in Japan, which may be sympathetic to Tojo and Doihara, will be going up in flames at the notion that Kishi is into war-profiteering. Yes, the zaibatsu are also making money out of the war, but at least they deliver what they promise and are paid for. Kishi doesn't even do that from the look of things. As far as the hard-right are unconcerned, Kishi is unpatriotic.
 
On another note than Kishi...

Given that the three largest navies in the world (at least as of 1935) are all on the same side, has there been a naval battle larger than those of World War One since then?
 
On another note than Kishi...

Given that the three largest navies in the world (at least as of 1935) are all on the same side, has there been a naval battle larger than those of World War One since then?

Doubtful, When the U.S, British, and Japanese navies are now on the same page, who could rightfully challenge them? Nazi Germany couldn't seriously make up its mind on what it wanted out of its navy until they did, and even then it didn't last long, nor was it as glorious as a full scale grandiose naval battle like Trafalgar or Jutland (though the fact that hunting U-Boats could probably be the military version of whaling sounds like a pretty awesome thing when you look at it that way.) Italy is largely contained to the Mediterranean, and doesn't have the resources to fight those kind of battles anyway. And the Soviet Navy in WW2 is just the Soviet Navy in WW2...
 
The Soviets are explicitly stated to have naval ambitions though, and Japan is explicitly said to be extremely unhappy about the notion. Britain is less explicit with their reaction, but it's more or less the same as the Japanese's.
 
The Soviets are explicitly stated to have naval ambitions though, and Japan is explicitly said to be extremely unhappy about the notion. Britain is less explicit with their reaction, but it's more or less the same as the Japanese's.
True, but the Navies arrayed against them post-WWII are likely to outnumber them by a similar amount. (British and Japanese larger than OTL, US Smaller, but more or less a wash in total).
 
The Soviets are explicitly stated to have naval ambitions though, and Japan is explicitly said to be extremely unhappy about the notion. Britain is less explicit with their reaction, but it's more or less the same as the Japanese's.
True, but the Navies arrayed against them post-WWII are likely to outnumber them by a similar amount. (British and Japanese larger than OTL, US Smaller, but more or less a wash in total).


To be fair, the Soviets had naval ambitions IOTL, but a combination of the Great Patriotic War destroying much of the Soviet's Industry, especially its shipbuilding ones, and the viewpoint that any resources the Soviets may need they can get in the Eurasian landmass kinda neutered that as well. To the point that ultimately the Soviets ended up adopting the same HoI4 Naval Doctrine Nazi Germany did after the war (when they started with the largely obsolete Fleet in Being.)
 
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