The Camelot King and His Pomegranate Queen - A Collaborative Timeline
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Thank you! They will! I invite you to also participate in the next one. I will start it in a few days.
Tudor Family Tree 1560
Henry VII of England (1457-1505) m. Elizabeth of York (1466-1505)
1a. Arthur I of England (1486-1547) m. Catherine of Aragon (1485-1547)
2a. Margaret of England (1489-1510) m. James IV of Scotland (1473-1503) m. James V of Scotland (1476-1541)
3a. Henry, Duke of York (1491-1559) m. Margaret of Angouleme (1492-1527) m. Anne Boleyn (1501-1536) m. Kathryn Howard (1523-) -annulled 1542- m. Mary of Kildare (1519-) -annulled 1543, reinstated 1556- -nun-
4a. Elizabeth of England (1492-1495)
5a. Mary of England (1496-1519) m. Christian II of Denmark (1481-1548)
6a. Edmund, Duke of Somerset (1499-1500)
7a. Miscarriage (1502)
8a. Edward, Duke of Somerset, Pope Constantine II (1503-) r. Kathryn Howard (1523-)
9a. Stillborn Daughter (1504)
If I left anyone out, or made any mistakes, please let me know.
1a. Arthur I of England (1486-1547) m. Catherine of Aragon (1485-1547)
1a. Elizabeth of England (1503-1536) m. Ferdinand II of Portugal (1505-1538)
2a. Mary of England (1503-) -nun- m. Henri II of Navarre (1502-1555)
1a. Miscarriage (1528)
2a. Blanche III of Navarre (1529-) m. Louis, Duke of Orleans (1533-1553) m. Juan Francesco, Duke of Alba (1537-)
1a. Philippe of Orleans (1548-1553)
2a. Miscarriage (1553)
3b. Juan Francesco, Prince of Viana (1557-)
4b. Miscarriage (1558)
5b. Miscarriage (1558)
4b. Blanca Isabella of Navarre (1559-)
5b. Maria Catalina of Navarre (1560-)
3a. Stillborn Son (1542)
4a. Henri, Prince of Viana (1542-1555)
5a. Gaston of Navarre (1547-1555)
3a. Arthur II of England (1504-1560) m. Beatrice of Portugal (1504-)
1a. Arthur III of England (1523-1560) m. Marie of France, Castile and Aragon (1529-1549) m. Anne of Brittany (1533-)
1a. Arthur, Duke of Monmouth (1549-1556)
2b. Catherine I of England (1556-)
3b. Beatrice of England (1556-)
4b. Anne of England (1558 -)
5b. Miscarriage (1559)
6b. Miscarriage (1559)
7b. Miscarriage (1560)
2a. Catherine of England, Abbess of Dartford Priory (1527-) -nun-
3a. Mary of England (1529-) m. Juan, Prince of Portugal (1534-)
4a. Henry, Duke of Lancaster (1531-1560) m. Isabella Luisa of Savoy-Milan (1545-)
1a. Stillborn Daughter (1560)
5a. Margaret, Duchess of Normandy (1538 -) m. Charles, Duke of Tourraine (1535-1552)
6a. Eleanor of England (1541-) m. Fredrick, Prince of Denmark (1538 -)
7a. Philippa of England (1541-) m. James VII of Scotland (1541-)
8a. William, Duke of Clarence (1549-)
4a. William of England (1505-1505)
5a. Miscarriage (1506)
6a. Margaret of England (1507-) m. Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor (1508-1525)
1a. Fredrick IV, Holy Roman Emperor (1523-) m. Jadwiga of Poland (1527-)
1a. Elisabeth Constance of Austria (1555-)
2a. Catherine of Austria (1525-1541) m. Vladislaus III of Hungary (1523-)
7a. Cecily of England (1509-1541) -nun, excommunicated- r. George Boleyn, Earl of Wiltshire (1504-)
1a. Stillborn Daughter (1541)
8a. Henry, Duke of Richmond (1511-) m. Jane Seymour (1508 -)
1a. Edward, Earl of March (1542-) m. Catherine of Bedford (1541-)
9a. Owen, Duke of Clarence (1512-1536) m. Catherine Parr (1512-)
10a. Jasper, Duke of Bedford (1512-) m. Antonia of Austria (1510-)
1a. Catherine of Bedford (1541-) m. Edward, Earl of March (1542-)
11a. John, Duke of Gloucester (1515-) -in Holy Orders-
12a. Catherine of England (1516-) m. Alain, Prince of Britannia (1513-)
13a. Joanna of England (1518 -) m. Philip, Prince of Asturias, Dauphin of France (1519-1538) m. Luis, Duke of Beja (1527-)
2a. Margaret of England (1489-1510) m. James IV of Scotland (1473-1503) m. James V of Scotland (1476-1541)
1b. Margaret of Scotland (1505-1506)
2b. James, Duke of Rothesay (1508-1509)
3b. Annabella of Scotland (1510-1511)
3a. Henry, Duke of York (1491-1559) m. Margaret of Angouleme (1492-1527) m. Anne Boleyn (1501-1536) m. Kathryn Howard (1523-) -annulled 1542- m. Mary of Kildare (1519-) -annulled 1543, reinstated 1556- -nun-
1a. Stillborn Son (1507)
2a. Miscarriage (1508)
3a. Henry, Earl of Nottingham (1509-1542) m. Mary of Kildare (1519-) -nun-
4a. Elizabeth of York (1511-) m. Conan, Count of Etampes (1515-)
1a. Henri of Etampes (1531-) m. Michelle de Wartelle (1539-)
1a. Constance of Etampes (1556-)
2a. Michel of Etampes (1559-)
2a. Margaret of Etampes (1532-) m. Charles de Foix (1533-)
1a. Catherine de Foix (1556-)
3a. Alan of Etampes (1534-)
4a. Richard of Etampes (1537-)
5a. Isabelle of Etampes (1542-)
6a. Anne of Etampes (1542-)
5a. Miscarriage (1516)
6a. Margaret of York (1518-1525)
7a. Stillborn Daughter (1523) -possibly illegitimate-
8b. Miscarriage (1527)
9b. Anne of York (1529-) m. Francis II of France (1535-1553)
10b. Edward, Duke of York (1529-) m. Mary Seymour (1543-)
1a. Edmund, Earl of Nottingham (1556-)
2a. Edward of York (1559-)
11b. Miscarriage (1536)
12c. Cecily of York (1541-)
13d. Mary FitzYork (1542-)
14d. Miscarriage (1542)
15d. Henry FitzYork (1543-)
4a. Elizabeth of England (1492-1495)
5a. Mary of England (1496-1519) m. Christian II of Denmark (1481-1548)
1a. Christina of Denmark (1515-) m. Wilhelm I, Holy Roman Emperor (1493-1541)
1a. Ernest of Bavaria (1530-)
2a. Christian of Bavaria (1530-)
2a. Miscarriage (1516)
3a. Mary of Denmark (1519-) m. Albert, Duke of Prussia (1490-)
1a. Sophia of Prussia (1538 -)
2a. Albert of Prussia (1551-)
3a. Heinrich of Prussia (1542-)
4a. Miscarriage (1519)
6a. Edmund, Duke of Somerset (1499-1500)
7a. Miscarriage (1502)
8a. Edward, Duke of Somerset, Pope Constantine II (1503-) r. Kathryn Howard (1523-)
1a. Catarina of Rome (1549-)
2a. Constantine of Rome (1553-)
3a. Elisabetta of Rome (1559-)
9a. Stillborn Daughter (1504)
If I left anyone out, or made any mistakes, please let me know.
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Why are the children of Constantine II and Katherine Howard "Fitzroy"? Edward is not king of anything and "Fitzroy" stood for "child of the king". Pope Alexander VI's bastard children were given the last name of "Borgia" which was his own surname. NOT "Fitzroy".
I figured because Edward was English, he would adopt the English standard of naming illegitimate children Fitzroy. From what we have seen from Edward, he is proud and haughty, and also corrupt, so it is not hard to believe he would call his children “son/daughters of the King”.
While corrupt he would probably not use "Fitzroy" as that is just asking for trouble with the actual king... They would likely just be "Tudor" as he is Tudor or they would be offered title and their surname would go off of their title e.g. "d'Angouleme"
Trastamara Family Tree 1560
Ferdinand II of Aragon (1452-1505) m. Isabella I of Castile (1451-1504)
1a. Isabella, Princess of Asturias (1470-1498) m. Alfonso, Prince of Portugal (1475-1491) m. Manuel I of Portugal (1469-1506)
2a. Miscarried Son (1475)
3a. Juan, Prince of Asturias (1478-1497) m. Margaret of Austria (1480-)
4a. Juana I of Castile and Aragon (1479-1507) m. Philip, Duke of Burgundy (1478-1503)
5a. Maria of Aragon (1482-1507) m. Manuel I of Portugal (1469-1506)
6a. Stillborn Daughter (1482)
7a. Catalina of Aragon (1485-1547) m. Arthur I of England (1486-1547)
If I made any mistakes, or left anyone out, please correct me.
1a. Isabella, Princess of Asturias (1470-1498) m. Alfonso, Prince of Portugal (1475-1491) m. Manuel I of Portugal (1469-1506)
1b. Miguel, Prince of Asturias (1498-1500)
2a. Miscarried Son (1475)
3a. Juan, Prince of Asturias (1478-1497) m. Margaret of Austria (1480-)
1a. Stillborn Daughter (1497)
4a. Juana I of Castile and Aragon (1479-1507) m. Philip, Duke of Burgundy (1478-1503)
1a. Leonor I of Castile and Aragon (1498-1556) m. Francis I of France (1503-1547) m. Fredrick II, Elector Palatine (1482-)
2a. Charles I of Castile and Aragon (1500-1507)
3a. Isabella of Austria (1501-) m. Sigismund I of Poland (1467-1551)
1a. Isabella, Queen of Poland (1523-)
2a. Catherine of Poland (1526-) m. Arthur, Count of Montfort (1531-)
3a. Albert of Poland (1527-1527)
4a. Mary of Austria (1503-) m. Louis II of Hungary (1506-1529)
1a. Vladislaus III of Hungary (1524-) m. Catherine of Austria (1525-1541) m. Anne of Cleves (1515-)
1b. Catherine of Hungary, Empress Maria of Byzantium (1542-) m. Dmitri Ivanovich of Russia, Emperor Basil of Byzantium (1544-)
2a. Jadwiga of Hungary (1527-) m. Fredrick IV, Holy Roman Emperor (1523-)
3a. Elisabeth of Hungary (1529-) m. Amadeus, Duke of Savoy-Milan (1520-1546)
1a. Stephan, Duke of Savoy-Milan (1544-1550)
2a. Isabella Luisa of Savoy-Milan (1545-) m. Henry, Duke of Lancaster (1531-)
3a. Galeazzo, Duke of Savoy-Milan (1546-)
5a. Maria of Aragon (1482-1507) m. Manuel I of Portugal (1469-1506)
1a. Juan III of Portugal (1502-1508)
2a. Isabella of Portugal (1503-1555) -nun-
3a. Beatrice of Portugal (1504-) m. Arthur, Prince of Wales (1504-1560)
4a. Ferdinand I of Portugal (1505-) m. Elizabeth of England (1503-1536)
1a. Juan IV of Portugal (1523-1555) m. Anne of France, Castile and Aragon (1521-)
2a. Luis I of Portugal (1527-1560) m. Joanna of England (1518 -)
1a. Miscarriage (1543)
3a. Miscarriage (1529)
4a. Duarte, Duke of Silvan (1536-1555)
5a. Manuel II of Portugal (1507-) m. Jacquetta of Brittany (1517-)
1a. Juan, Prince of Portugal (1534-) m. Mary of England (1529-)
1a. Beatrice of Viseu (1556-1558)
2a. Juan of Portugal (1558 -)
3a. Alfonso, Duke of Silvan (1560-)
2a. Jamie, Duke of Viseu (1536-)
3a. Manuel, Duke of Beja (1538 -)
4a. Stillborn Daughter (1540)
5a. Beatrice of Portugal (1547-)
6a. Margaret of Portugal (1552-)
7a. Joanna of Portugal (1554-)
6a. Stillborn Daughter (1482)
7a. Catalina of Aragon (1485-1547) m. Arthur I of England (1486-1547)
If I made any mistakes, or left anyone out, please correct me.
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OK fair enough.
I'd like to ask why the switch of names from Katherine to Catarina and Elizabeth to Elisabetta also
Because the Pope is living in Italy and thus would use Italian names for the children.
French Family Trees 1560
Louis XII of France (1462-1508) m. Jeanne, Duchess of Berry (1464-1505) -annulled 1498- m. Anne I, Duchess of Brittany (1477-1506) m. Joanna of Naples (1479-1509)
1b. Claude, Princess of Britannia (1499-1559) m. Jacques de Rohan (1478-1518) m. Christian II of Denmark (1481-1548)
2b. Stillborn Son (1501)
3b. Francis I of France (1503-1547) m. Leonor I of Castile and Aragon (1498-1556)
4b. Jean, Duke of Brittany (1505-1507)
5b. Miscarriage (1506)
6b. Miscarriage (1506)
7c. Catherine of France (1509-) m. James VI of Scotland (1514-1560)
1b. Claude, Princess of Britannia (1499-1559) m. Jacques de Rohan (1478-1518) m. Christian II of Denmark (1481-1548)
1a. Alan V, Prince of Britannia (1513-) m. Catherine of England (1516-)
1a. Isabelle of Brittany (1529-1529)
2a. Arthur, Count of Montfort (1531-) m. Catherine of Poland (1526-)
1a. Conan of Brittany (1556-)
2a. Catherine of Brittany (1558 -)
3a. Stillborn Son (1560)
3a. Anne of Brittany (1533-) m. Arthur III of England (1523-)
4a. Conan of Brittany (1535-)
5a. Jacques of Brittany (1538 -)
6a. Claude of Brittany (1538 -)
7a. Isabelle of Brittany (1547-)
2a. Conan, Count of Etampes (1515-) m. Elizabeth of York (1511-)
3a. Jacquetta of Brittany (1517-) m. Manuel II of Portugal (1507-)
4a. Anne of Brittany (1518 -) m. Alexander Stewart (1513-)
1a. John Stewart (1539-)
5b. Claude of Denmark (1522-) m. Ivan IV of Russia (1527-)
1a. Stillborn Son (1539)
2a. Feodor Ivanovich, Tsarevich of Russia (1542-)
3a. Dmitri Ivanovich of Russia, Emperor Basil of Byzantium (1544-) m. Catherine of Hungary, Empress Maria of Byzantium (1542-)
4a. Anastasia Ivanova of Russia (1547-)
5a. Olga Ivanova of Russia (1557-)
6a. Tatiana Ivanova of Russia (1558 -)
7a. Ivan Ivanovich of Russia (1558 -)
8a. Maria Ivanova of Russia (1559-)
6b. Christian III of Scandinavia (1523-) m. Isabella Alfonsina of Naples (1519-)
1a. Fredrick, Prince of Denmark (1538 -) m. Katarina Vasa (1539-1554) m. Eleanor of England (1541-)
1a. Miscarriage (1554)
2b. John of Denmark (1557-)
3b. Dorothea of Denmark (1557-)
4b. Fredrick-Cristian of Denmark (1558 -)
2a. Clara of Denmark (1542-)
3a. Christian of Denmark (1548 -)
2b. Stillborn Son (1501)
3b. Francis I of France (1503-1547) m. Leonor I of Castile and Aragon (1498-1556)
1a. Philip, Prince of Asturias, Dauphin of France (1519-1538) m. Joanna of England (1518 -)
1a. Francis II and I of France, Castile and Aragon (1535-1553) m. Anne of York (1529-)
1a. Philippe VII and I of France, Castile and Aragon (1551-1556)
2a. Charles, Duke of Tourraine (1535-1552) m. Margaret, Duchess of Normandy (1538 -)
1a. Charlotte of Tourraine and Normandy (1551-)
2a. Charles IX and I of France, Castile and Aragon (1553-)
3a. Eleanor of France (1536-1554) m. Juan Francisco, Duke of Alba (1537-)
1a. Maria Beatrice of Alba (1554-)
4a. Henri, Duke of Luxembourg (1536-1541)
2a. Louis of France, Castile and Aragon (1519-1523)
3a. Anne of France, Castile and Aragon (1521-) m. Juan IV of Portugal (1523-1555)
4a. Jeanne of France, Castile and Aragon (1522-) m. Fredrick, Duke of Calabria (1509-)
1a. Stillborn Son (1542)
5a. Miscarriage (1523)
6a. Eleanor of France, Castile and Aragon (1525-) m. Lorenzo I of Sardinia (1512-)
7a. Marie of France, Castile and Aragon (1529-1549) m. Arthur III of England (1523-1560)
8a. Louis, Duke of Orleans (1533-1553) m. Blanche III of Navarre (1529-)
1a. Philippe of Orleans (1548-1553)
2a. Miscarriage (1553)
9a. Francis, Duke of Berry (1536-1542)
10a. Charles, Duke of Alencon (1539-1542)
4b. Jean, Duke of Brittany (1505-1507)
5b. Miscarriage (1506)
6b. Miscarriage (1506)
7c. Catherine of France (1509-) m. James VI of Scotland (1514-1560)
1a. Miscarriage (1529)
2a. James VII of Scotland (1541-) m. Philippa of England (1541-)
3a. Arthur, Duke of Ross (1541-)
4a. Eleanor of Scotland (1551-)
If I made any mistakes, or left someone out, please correct me.
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Catarina is the Portuguese spelling, the italian one is Caterina (and her brother would be Costantino)
Just about Claude of Brittany and her descendants. Since Brittany and Normandy became the Principality of Britannia they use the title of Prince/Princess and the name Britannia now.
What about "of Rome" for the Papal children?
Of Rome sounds very pretentious, doesn't it? It is possible, though
I know but if Pope Constantine is the proud/haughty man he seems to be, he could. Especially as he's the one who launched the Crusade that crushed the Ottomans - could make him a bit big-headed.