Amash isn’t really an option in 2008 given he hasn’t even been in Congress yet-2012 maybe but that’s still tricky. Webb I though would be better for Defense and Hagel OTL endorsed the Dems in 2008 and initially supported the Iraq War which combined ITTL led to him not making the cut.
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Amash isn’t really an option in 2008 given he hasn’t even been in Congress yet-2012 maybe but that’s still tricky. Webb I though would be better for Defense and Hagel OTL endorsed the Dems in 2008 and initially supported the Iraq War which combined ITTL led to him not making the cut.
I was thinking that this was 2012 Ron Paul. Try Chuck Muth at State? Or someone from the corporate world? Maybe even Giuliani?
Giuliani wouldn’t be even remotely on the table for Ron Paul’s Secretary of State.
Did you scour Ron Paul endorsers and people involved with the campaign in '08 and/or '12 or with Johnson's in '12 and/or '16 or with Bob Barr '08? Also, maybe John Kasich makes some sense.
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"Year of the Woman"
President: Senator ELIZABETH WARREN (D-MA)
Vice President: Congresswoman TERRI SEWELL (D-AL)
Secretary of State: Fmr. Deputy Sec. of State WENDY SHERMAN (D-MA)
Secretary of the Treasury: Economist MARIANNE BERTRAND (I-IL)
Secretary of Defense: Fmr. Undersec. of Def. for Policy MICHELE FLOURNOY (D-VA)
Attorney General: Fmr. Deputy Attorney General SALLY YATES (D-GA)
Secretary of the Interior: Congresswoman DEB HAALAND (D-NM)
Secretary of Agriculture: CEO of Feeding America CLAIRE BABINEUX-FONTENOT (I-GA)
Secretary of Commerce: CEO of Patagonia, Inc. ROSE MARCARIO (D-CA)
Secretary of Labor: Fmr. Governor JENNIFER GRANHOLM (D-MI)
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Fmr. Health Commissioner LEANA WEN (D-MD)
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: V.P. for Energy and Environmental Policy of the NMHC EILEEN LEE (D-VA)
Secretary of Education: Fmr. Chancellor of the State University of New York NANCY L. ZIMPHER (D-NY)
Secretary of Transportation: Congresswoman ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON (D-DC)
Secretary of Energy: Fmr. Chair of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board SHIRLEY ANN JACKSON (D-NY)
Secretary of Veterans' Affairs: Fmr. Vice Chief of Naval Operations Admiral MICHELLE HOWARD (D-DC)
Secretary of Homeland Security: Fmr. Assistant U.S. Sec. of Homeland Security for Intergovernmental Affairs JULIETTE KAYYEM (D-MA)
President: Senator ELIZABETH WARREN (D-MA)
Vice President: Congresswoman TERRI SEWELL (D-AL)
Secretary of State: Fmr. Deputy Sec. of State WENDY SHERMAN (D-MA)
Secretary of the Treasury: Economist MARIANNE BERTRAND (I-IL)
Secretary of Defense: Fmr. Undersec. of Def. for Policy MICHELE FLOURNOY (D-VA)
Attorney General: Fmr. Deputy Attorney General SALLY YATES (D-GA)
Secretary of the Interior: Congresswoman DEB HAALAND (D-NM)
Secretary of Agriculture: CEO of Feeding America CLAIRE BABINEUX-FONTENOT (I-GA)
Secretary of Commerce: CEO of Patagonia, Inc. ROSE MARCARIO (D-CA)
Secretary of Labor: Fmr. Governor JENNIFER GRANHOLM (D-MI)
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Fmr. Health Commissioner LEANA WEN (D-MD)
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: V.P. for Energy and Environmental Policy of the NMHC EILEEN LEE (D-VA)
Secretary of Education: Fmr. Chancellor of the State University of New York NANCY L. ZIMPHER (D-NY)
Secretary of Transportation: Congresswoman ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON (D-DC)
Secretary of Energy: Fmr. Chair of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board SHIRLEY ANN JACKSON (D-NY)
Secretary of Veterans' Affairs: Fmr. Vice Chief of Naval Operations Admiral MICHELLE HOWARD (D-DC)
Secretary of Homeland Security: Fmr. Assistant U.S. Sec. of Homeland Security for Intergovernmental Affairs JULIETTE KAYYEM (D-MA)
Yes, but there's nothing stopping her from being a cabinet member, as she is a US resident
She would have to be a U.S. citizen, which is different from being a U.S. resident.
She's been teaching in the United States for longer than I've been alive, and she's a faculty member at one of the nation's most prestigious universities. If she isn't a citizen already, she would be able to get citizenship status incredibly quickly.
Surprised to not see fictional characters among these (besides Olympic gods)
Cabinet 1993-2001
President: Barbara Gordon - Fmr. District Attorney of Gotham (Superman & Batman: Generations)
Vice President: Andrew Shepard - Fmr. Governor of Calisota (The American President)
Secretary of State: Thomas J Whitmore - Fmr. Senator of South Dakota (Independence Day)
Secretary of the Treasury: Jed Bartlet - Fmr. Governor of New Hampshire (West Wing)
Secretary of Defense: James Marshall/Jack Ryan - Fmr. spy of the CIA (Jack Ryan/Air Force One)
-Deputy Secretary of Defense: Miles Hutchinson - West Wing
Attorney General-Jack Stanton (Captain Erzat! Bill Clinton) - Fmr. Governor of Arkansas (Primary Colors)
Secretary of the Interior-Tom Beck- Fmr. Governor of Missisipi (Olympus has fallen)
Secretary of Agriculture: Frederick Randolph Garner (Lois & Clark)
Secretary of Commerce: Al Noah (Captain Erzat! Al Gore)- Fmr. Senator of Tenessee (Eagle)
Secretary of Labor: John Haynes - Fmr. Senator of Texas (West Wing)
Secretary of Health and Human Services: D. Wire Newman (West Wing)
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Bob Russel - Fmr. Congressman of Colorado (West Wing)
Secretary of Education: Charles Brown (Peanuts)
Secretary of Transportation: Matt Douglas (My Fellow Americans)
Secretary of Energy: Lewis Berryhill (West Wing)
Secretary of Veteran Affairs: Percival Flitzwallace (West Wing)
Secretary of Homeland Security: James Dale (Mars Attacks)
President: Barbara Gordon - Fmr. District Attorney of Gotham (Superman & Batman: Generations)
Vice President: Andrew Shepard - Fmr. Governor of Calisota (The American President)
Secretary of State: Thomas J Whitmore - Fmr. Senator of South Dakota (Independence Day)
Secretary of the Treasury: Jed Bartlet - Fmr. Governor of New Hampshire (West Wing)
Secretary of Defense: James Marshall/Jack Ryan - Fmr. spy of the CIA (Jack Ryan/Air Force One)
-Deputy Secretary of Defense: Miles Hutchinson - West Wing
Attorney General-Jack Stanton (Captain Erzat! Bill Clinton) - Fmr. Governor of Arkansas (Primary Colors)
Secretary of the Interior-Tom Beck- Fmr. Governor of Missisipi (Olympus has fallen)
Secretary of Agriculture: Frederick Randolph Garner (Lois & Clark)
Secretary of Commerce: Al Noah (Captain Erzat! Al Gore)- Fmr. Senator of Tenessee (Eagle)
Secretary of Labor: John Haynes - Fmr. Senator of Texas (West Wing)
Secretary of Health and Human Services: D. Wire Newman (West Wing)
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Bob Russel - Fmr. Congressman of Colorado (West Wing)
Secretary of Education: Charles Brown (Peanuts)
Secretary of Transportation: Matt Douglas (My Fellow Americans)
Secretary of Energy: Lewis Berryhill (West Wing)
Secretary of Veteran Affairs: Percival Flitzwallace (West Wing)
Secretary of Homeland Security: James Dale (Mars Attacks)
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C U R S E D L A B O U R
Prime Minister: Maurice Glasman (Labour)
Chancellor of the Exchequer: Caroline Flint (Labour)
Foreign Secretary: Kate Hoey (Labour)
Home Secretary: Paul Embery (Labour)
Defense Secretary: Jonathan Rutherford (Labour)
Health Secretary: Lisa Nandy (Labour)
Education Secretary: Chuka Umunna (Labour)
Prime Minister: Maurice Glasman (Labour)
Chancellor of the Exchequer: Caroline Flint (Labour)
Foreign Secretary: Kate Hoey (Labour)
Home Secretary: Paul Embery (Labour)
Defense Secretary: Jonathan Rutherford (Labour)
Health Secretary: Lisa Nandy (Labour)
Education Secretary: Chuka Umunna (Labour)
Time for more Timeline 191 except its more like our world than Timeline 191 (Mixing both Fictional and Real People here)
Union, Shepard´s Cabinet (1993-2001):
President:
Thomas J Whitmore - Fmr. Senator of South Dakota (Independence Day)
Vice President:
Andrew Shepard - Fmr. Governor of Calisota (The American President)
Secretary of State:
Jack Douglas (Executive Decision)
Secretary of the Treasury:
Robert Rubin
Secretary of Defense:
Albert Nimziki (Independence Day)
Attorney General:
Warren Christopher
Secretary of the Interior:
Matt Douglas (My Fellow Americans)
Secretary of Agriculture:
Dan Glickman
Secretary of Commerce:
Ron Brown (1993-1996)
William M. Daley (1996-2001)
Secretary of Labor:
Robert Reich
Secretary of Health and Human Services:
Donna Shalala
Secretary of Education:
(1993-1995) Phillium Benedict (Recess)
(1995-2001) Madeleine Kunin
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development:
Andrew Cuomo
Secretary of Transportation:
Norman Y. Mineta
Secretary of Energy:
Bill Richardson
Secretary of Veteran Affairs:
Jesse Brown
Chief of Staff:
Josiah Bartlet
Confederacy, Clinton´s Cabinet (1994-2000):
President:
Bill Clinton - Fmr. Governor of Arkansas
Vice President:
Al Gore - Fmr. Senator of Tenessee
Secretary of State:
Madeleine Albright
Secretary of the Treasury:
Lloyd Bentsen (1994-1999)
Ken Kato (1999-2000) (West Wing)
Secretary of Defense:
Charles White (Executive Decision)
Attorney General:
Janet Reno
Secretary of the Interior:
Bruce Babbitt
Secretary of Agriculture:
Mike Espy
Secretary of Commerce:
Mickey Cantor
Secretary of Labor:
Alexis Herman
Secretary of Health and Human Services:
Walter Broadnax
Secretary of Education:
Richard Riley
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development:
Henry Cisneros
Secretary of Transportation:
Federico Peña (1994-1997)
Rodney E. Slater (1997-2000)
Secretary of Energy:
Hazel R. O'Leary (1994-1997)
Federico Peña (1997-2000)
Secretary of Veteran Affairs:
Togo D. West Jr.
Chief of Staff:
Mack McLarty
Union, Shepard´s Cabinet (1993-2001):
President:
Thomas J Whitmore - Fmr. Senator of South Dakota (Independence Day)
Vice President:
Andrew Shepard - Fmr. Governor of Calisota (The American President)
Secretary of State:
Jack Douglas (Executive Decision)
Secretary of the Treasury:
Robert Rubin
Secretary of Defense:
Albert Nimziki (Independence Day)
Attorney General:
Warren Christopher
Secretary of the Interior:
Matt Douglas (My Fellow Americans)
Secretary of Agriculture:
Dan Glickman
Secretary of Commerce:
Ron Brown (1993-1996)
William M. Daley (1996-2001)
Secretary of Labor:
Robert Reich
Secretary of Health and Human Services:
Donna Shalala
Secretary of Education:
(1993-1995) Phillium Benedict (Recess)
(1995-2001) Madeleine Kunin
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development:
Andrew Cuomo
Secretary of Transportation:
Norman Y. Mineta
Secretary of Energy:
Bill Richardson
Secretary of Veteran Affairs:
Jesse Brown
Chief of Staff:
Josiah Bartlet
Confederacy, Clinton´s Cabinet (1994-2000):
President:
Bill Clinton - Fmr. Governor of Arkansas
Vice President:
Al Gore - Fmr. Senator of Tenessee
Secretary of State:
Madeleine Albright
Secretary of the Treasury:
Lloyd Bentsen (1994-1999)
Ken Kato (1999-2000) (West Wing)
Secretary of Defense:
Charles White (Executive Decision)
Attorney General:
Janet Reno
Secretary of the Interior:
Bruce Babbitt
Secretary of Agriculture:
Mike Espy
Secretary of Commerce:
Mickey Cantor
Secretary of Labor:
Alexis Herman
Secretary of Health and Human Services:
Walter Broadnax
Secretary of Education:
Richard Riley
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development:
Henry Cisneros
Secretary of Transportation:
Federico Peña (1994-1997)
Rodney E. Slater (1997-2000)
Secretary of Energy:
Hazel R. O'Leary (1994-1997)
Federico Peña (1997-2000)
Secretary of Veteran Affairs:
Togo D. West Jr.
Chief of Staff:
Mack McLarty
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February 2019 reshuffle
Prime Minister: Boris Johnson
Chancellor of the Exchequer: Sajid Javid
Foreign and International Development Secretary: Dominic Raab
Home Secretary: Priti Patel
Defence Secretary: Ben Wallace
BEIS: Rishi Sunak
DHSC: Matt Hancock
DFE: Gavin Williamson
MHCLG: Robert Jenrick
DWP: Therese Coffey
Justice: Lucy Frazer
Trade: Liz Truss
DEFRA: Victoria Atkins
Northern Ireland: Oliver Dowden Scotland: Alistair Jack
Wales: Simon Hart
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (Brexit): Michael Gove
Leader of the House of Commons: Grant Shapps
Chief Whip: Steve Barclay
Chair of the Conservative Party: James Cleverly
Transport and DCMS are folded into BEIS and MHCLG, while DFID loses its Secretary if State.
Prime Minister: Boris Johnson
Chancellor of the Exchequer: Sajid Javid
Foreign and International Development Secretary: Dominic Raab
Home Secretary: Priti Patel
Defence Secretary: Ben Wallace
BEIS: Rishi Sunak
DHSC: Matt Hancock
DFE: Gavin Williamson
MHCLG: Robert Jenrick
DWP: Therese Coffey
Justice: Lucy Frazer
Trade: Liz Truss
DEFRA: Victoria Atkins
Northern Ireland: Oliver Dowden Scotland: Alistair Jack
Wales: Simon Hart
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster (Brexit): Michael Gove
Leader of the House of Commons: Grant Shapps
Chief Whip: Steve Barclay
Chair of the Conservative Party: James Cleverly
Transport and DCMS are folded into BEIS and MHCLG, while DFID loses its Secretary if State.
Some of the stuff he said during the election caused him to be taken out of frontline campaigning fearing he was a liability. There were rumours that he would be replaced following the election and he himself seemed surprised he wasn’t replaced in the days after if you watch some discussions with him.
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Banned
President: Tom Daschle
Vice President: John Kerry
Secretary of State: Bill Richardson
Secretary of the Treasury: Robert Rubin
Secretary of Defense: John P. White
Attorney General: Rose Bird
Secretary of the Interior: Roy Romer
Secretary of Agriculture: Tom Vilsack
Secretary of Commerce: Matthew Barzun
Secretary of Labor: Kathryn O. Higgins
Secretary of Health & Human Services: Judd Gregg
Secretary of Housing & Urban Development: John Hickenlooper
Secretary of Transportation: Lee Iaccoca
Secretary of Energy: Steven Chu
Secretary of Education: Bruce N. Reed
Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Hershel Gober
Secretary of Homeland Security: Brian L. Stafford
Chief of Staff: Ron Klain
EPA Administrator: Katie McGinty
Director of National Intelligence: Louis J. Freeh
UN Ambassador: Wendy Sherman
Administrator of the Small Business Administration: Chris Dodd
Vice President: John Kerry
Secretary of State: Bill Richardson
Secretary of the Treasury: Robert Rubin
Secretary of Defense: John P. White
Attorney General: Rose Bird
Secretary of the Interior: Roy Romer
Secretary of Agriculture: Tom Vilsack
Secretary of Commerce: Matthew Barzun
Secretary of Labor: Kathryn O. Higgins
Secretary of Health & Human Services: Judd Gregg
Secretary of Housing & Urban Development: John Hickenlooper
Secretary of Transportation: Lee Iaccoca
Secretary of Energy: Steven Chu
Secretary of Education: Bruce N. Reed
Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Hershel Gober
Secretary of Homeland Security: Brian L. Stafford
Chief of Staff: Ron Klain
EPA Administrator: Katie McGinty
Director of National Intelligence: Louis J. Freeh
UN Ambassador: Wendy Sherman
Administrator of the Small Business Administration: Chris Dodd