Stonewall Jackson's Way: An Alternate Confederacy Timeline

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Chapter Eighty-Four: Foch, France, and Fraternity?
Chapter Eighty-Four: Foch, France, and Fraternity?
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A depiction of the Palais Bourbon, where the fateful vote was held​

As the members of the French National Assembly gathered at the Palais Bourbon, the tensions were high. Many people had surrounded the building, and were vigorously chanting for the preferred candidate. The chant heard loudest of all was coming from the midst of the former veterans, many of whom had come in the uniforms with their flags and weapons, a foreboding sign to some members of the legislature. They were heard to repeatedly yell out, "Foch, France, Fraternité!" As more and more members walked in and took their seat, the crowd, which was rapidly transforming into an unruly mob, started pressing in on the building demanding to be let in to view the voting. The legislators, fearful of a potential fallout should their votes become public knowledge, declined. Nevertheless, the mass of Parisians continue to slowly press forward against the guards, forcing the legislator to facilitate a compromise. As the last of the members arrived, they promised to send out members of the building’s guard to announce the vote tallies every few minutes. Satisfied for the moment, the advance of the people abated, although they tensely held their ground. After a few moments, however, the political divides between them became clear and chanting once more began in favor of their candidate, dividing the crowd.
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A photograph of the sprawl of French citizens gathered in the blocks around the Palais Bourbon waiting for the vote.
Eventually, the legislature was convened and the voting began. As promised, the guards periodically brought out the latest counts. From the beginning it was clear the contest was between Clemenceau and Foch. For the crowd, however, this is what they desired, as very few supporters of either Jonnart or Messimy had so passionately supported their candidate as to join into the already highly strained atmosphere. As the voting continued, the lead between the two leading candidates kept switching hands. No one truly knew who was going to win as the reports kept being brought out, which only served to further increase the strife between the two camps. After one report where it was announced Clemenceau was leading was delivered, an enraged Foch supporters stormed over to a particularly vocal Clemenceau supporter and tore his sign out of hands before tossing it to the ground. The Clemenceau supporter promptly tackled the man, with the brawl ensuing and even growing until members of the guard intervened and separated the two men. For all subsequent reports, guards stood between the two sides to prevent a rehashing of the violence, but even that was proving barely enough to keep it down.
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A group of Foch supporting veterans taken during the legislative voting process, with the man at center believed to have been the man who started the brawl
As inevitably would happen, a candidate eventually won the election. Ultimately, in a narrow vote, George Clemenceau triumphed over Foch, Jonnart, and Messimy to be elected France's next president. Unfortunately for any celebrations planned to commemorate his victory by his supporters, the pre-existing chaos soon devolved into outrage and violence from Foch's supporters, and present to harness and exploit this was Marshal Philippe Pétain. Having been closely monitoring the proceedings with Foch, d'Espèrey, and several other close advisers, when news of Clemenceau's triumph was brought to him, he knew the time had come to activate their back up plan. Mounting a white horse reminiscent of the one rode by Napoleon in the famous David painting, Pétain, who had already had several dozens armed veterans waiting in the entrance of the hotel they were staying in, rode through the streets of Paris rallying former soldiers, or just anyone with a weapon who supported Foch to follow his lead. Soon, he had amassed hundreds of followers, which only grew much larger when he reached the mobs outside the Palais Bourbon. Chanting out "Foch, France, Fraternité!", he and his impromptu army closed in on the building. When at the block where it stood, Pétain would dismount and address his followers. In his speech, he called for them to storm the Palais Bourbon, which the crowd was already ready to do and started doing even before he started his next sentence. Easily overwhelming the dozen guards standing at the door, the rioters turned revolutionaries were soon in the room where the legislators themselves were meeting. Reasserting control over the situation, Pétain ordered the obvious and what had already been done, namely to hold the legislators hostage at gunpoint.
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Pétain on his ride that would forever change France
With the blood of the republic on their hands, Pétain and his followers decided to deliver the coup de grâce. Striding over the minister's stand, Pétain would draw out his pistol and level it towards the head of Aristide Briand, who had taken over as prime minister following the elevation of George Clemenceau to the acting presidency. As Briand started murmuring something out, Pétain fired point blank into his face, with immediately fatal results. Claiming the murder was a righteous and necessary action to destroy those who tried to destroy the republic, Pétain ordered his men to bring forward elder statesman Alexandre Ribot, who had served as prime minister four times in the course of his career and was well-liked by most. Again leveling his pistol, this time at the head of Ribot, Pétain ordered him to declare the election results null and void and to have a new count. In response to this, Ribot would quietly whisper, "I'd rather die alongside the republic than join the conspirators in its murder." With that, Pétain dispatched Ribot with another point blank shot to the head. Finally, Georges Leygues would be brought to the front and be inaugurated as France's fourth prime minister in two weeks. Having supported and voted for Foch, and also wanting to avoid the fate of Briand and Ribot, Leygues agreed to Pétain's demands, and declared the previous voting null and void. With that, another round ensued. Pétain warned that any man who voted against Foch was to be promptly executed by one of the mob. Despite that, a few brave souls still cast their votes for Clemenceau, including Paul Painlevé, Gustave Delory, and Édouard Herriot. All three men, along with all the others who voted against Foch, were shot down or even bayoneted in the case of Delory by the crowd on Pétain's orders. When the balloting was finished, Pétain ordered Leygues declare all the votes against Foch to have been invalid, which a trembling Leygues would do. With that, the dismantlement, collapse, and ultimate destruction of the French republic at the hands of some who had been among its most ardent defenders was complete.
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The Final Prime Ministers: Briand, Ribot, and Leygues
With his "unanimous" election to the presidency, Foch, at the urging of Pétain and d'Espèrey, set about consolidating power. First, he had Clemenceau arrested and put on trial for treason against the republic and attempting to thwart the will of the people. Despite his impassioned defense, or his attempts at it over the boos and hisses of Foch's supporters, Clemenceau would ultimately and unsurprisingly fall short. On January 31, 1920, he would be executed by a military firing squad. With his main rival for power eliminated, Foch went about eliminating the vestiges of opposition within the National Assembly. Surprisingly, Leygues would be allowed to keep both his post and his life, although he was effectively downgraded to a rubber stamp for Foch’s policies. Many of his colleagues, however, weren't as lucky. Foch loyalists within the National Assembly would reveal the members who had cast their votes against Foch in this initial round. With that knowledge in hand, Foch would go about rounding them up and systemically executing them. In their place, he would install men, many of whom were veterans, who were loyal to him. He also forced every man in the National Assembly to swear a new oath. Instead of pledging to protect the republic, in the new oath they pledged to uphold the supremacy and stability of the French head-of-state. By July, France had essentially devolved into a triumvirate of power divided between Foch, Pétain, and d'Espèrey.
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The French Triumvirate: Foch, Pétain, and d'Espèrey
Despite the repression of the supporters of Clemenceau, or even any dissent against the new system in general, one man still held out hopes that he could achieve his dream within France. That man was Leon Trotsky. Having fled Russia in the wake of Lenin's failed revolution and subsequent execution, Trotsky had moved to France in the hopes that it would prove to be a more fertile breeding ground for the socialist revolution he hoped to ferment. When he had first arrived, he had established a Russian language newspaper to update those in France on the goings on within Russia, especially in relation to their revolution. Eventually, however, he had shifted the paper's focus when the most he could generally print for the weekly publication was that the guerillas under Josef Stalin and Nikolai Podvoisky continued to harass the czarist's forces from their camps in the Urals. Instead, he would transform it into a vocal mouthpiece in support of socialism within France. Although Clemenceau was certainly not as radical as he desired, Trotsky nevertheless supported him in the presidential election in the belief that he was a step in the right direction, and perhaps a necessary stepping stone for the French people if they were to eventually accept true socialism as viewed in the eyes of Trotsky. Although he was not in attendance of the crowd of Clemenceau supporters who had swarmed the Palais Bourbon, he had nevertheless been attentively following the latest reports, and broke out in celebration when news of Clemenceau’s victory was brought to him. His triumph, however, was soon transformed into agony when word of the subsequent proceedings and the coup were brought to his attention. When he returned to his newspaper publishing building the next day, he found it sacked, with the printing press mangled and the type scattered, as well as the ink spilled over and used to write pro-Foch slogans on the walls. Already outspoken in his opposition to Foch during the election cycle, Trotsky now came to be an enemy of the regime he had established, and vowed that he would lead the socialist revolution that would overthrow it.
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Leon Trotsky​
 
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Ah, the sick irony that comes with a coup. Accusing your enemy of seeking to do what you're currently doing.

I don't think I've hated any ATL figure I've read about on this site more viscerally than this Phillipe Pétain. Bravo. 👏

And now I'm looking forward to when karma comes for them and true democracy can be restored in France.
 
Ah, the sick irony that comes with a coup. Accusing your enemy of seeking to do what you're currently doing.

I don't think I've hated any ATL figure I've read about on this site more viscerally than this Phillipe Pétain. Bravo. 👏

And now I'm looking forward to when karma comes for them and true democracy can be restored in France.
Thank you for the compliment! I'm glad that you are enjoying (Is that the right word considering the chapter's situation?) reading this timeline. I wouldn't hold my breath for democracy's return in France though, it is going to be a long road...
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Thank you for the compliment! I'm glad that you are enjoying (Is that the right word considering the chapter's situation?) reading this timeline. I wouldn't hold my breath for democracy's return in France though, it is going to be a long road...
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Ok not so bad-
*sees the end*
Oh. Ok that's bad
 
Chapter Eighty-Five: The World Responds
Chapter Eighty-Five: The World Responds
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Russian troops marching in preparation for war
As soon as word broke of Foch's coup and installment of himself as France's new president, which soon became clear was a dictatorship, the world recoiled in shock. All had known of the devastated state of the nation, yet they still had not expected such a rapid crumbling of their democracy. Even more surprising was that it had been generally accepted by the French people. Perhaps it was due to their weariness towards war, or perhaps they truly believed in Foch's promises, but with the exception of a few groups of fervent Clemenceau supporters or those firmly attached to France's democracy, very little public resistance had come out to oppose him. This was not to say there was not any underground resistance, which there certainly was, but no large scale public riots or revolts began. Despite the seeming stability of the regime, the major powers in Europe, Great Britain and Germany, were still worried about it and maintained a hostile attitude towards it, fearing the outbreak of another war on the continent. A diplomatic summit between the two nations was called for to plan out how they would cooperate to oppose the recent turn of events and perhaps even restore the republic. These efforts, which became known as the Amsterdam Conference due to being hosted in that city, soon collapsed as a result of bickering between the British commissioners--Prime Minister David Lloyd George, Leader of the Conservative Party Arthur Balfour, and Leader of the Liberal Party H. H. Asquith--, all of whom were rivals for the Premiership. Combined with the passive aggressive nature of Kaiser Wilhelm II, who lead the German representatives of himself, Chancellor Theobald von Bethmann-Hollweg, and Foreign Secretary Richard von Kühlmann, towards the British, and it came as little surprise when no conclusion was met.
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The Delegates to the unsuccessful Amsterdam Conference: George, Balfour, Asquith, Wilhelm, Bethmann-Hollweg, and Kühlmann
Russia, meanwhile, was not fooling around. Weakened by his loss in the Great War and the recent revolt under Lenin, Czar Nicholas II was not in the mood to see his sole remaining ally on the continent collapse in on itself. While he was worried that France would start another war, he was worried more so that France would prove to have a destabilizing effect on his already disrupted empire. He also did not want to appear weak by sitting out a conflict, due to his damaged image within Europe. Thus, he began raising an army to join in the effort he believed was coming to restore the French republic. Commanded by Aleksey Kuropatkin, a close friend of the Czar's who had managed to avoid having his reputation destroyed by the war, it consisted of three infantry corps under the command of Generals Aleksei Brusilov, Lavr Kornilov, and Nikolai Yudenich. Mobilizing and training went well, but due to Britain and Germany failing to decide on any course of action to take, it ultimately was in vain. In fact, Kaiser Wilhelm would actually misinterpret it as a Russian plan to regain lands lost during the Great War, causing him to nearly declare war before Nicholas explained the army. Without any allies to back him and already having an exhausted population and logistical system, Nicholas decommissioned the army, leaving only a small amount to continue fighting the guerilla groups of former Lenin supporters in the Urals.
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Aleksey Kuropatkin, Aleksei Brusilov, Lavr Kornilov, and Nikolai Yudenich
The Triple Alliance, in the meantime, held quiet over the whole affair. All three had not enjoyed especially close relationships with France before the conflict, and with Foch now coming out with stance antagonistic to them due to their standing by during the Great War, they saw little reason to attempt to grow closer. They also, however, saw little reason to attempt to overthrow them either, for much the same reasons that they didn't enter the Great War, namely isolationism towards Europe and the cost of effort, supplies, and manpower required for the endeavor. Even if they had overthrown him, they were not certain what their next step would be, as any other figure with a legitimate claim to the French presidency had been executed (Clemenceau), exiled (Jonnart), or agreed to collaborate with the regime (Messimy), meaning they would have to become tangled into the recreation of a new French government from the ashes. Ultimately, a meeting between Presidents Coolidge, Underwood, and Reyes would come to the same conclusion. Thus, it seemed the Foch's regime would go unchallenged by the world for the moment.
 
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Chapter Eight-Six: The CSA Presidential Election of 1921
Chapter Eight-Six: The CSA Presidential Election of 1921
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A photograph of excited Arkansas Democratic delegates, hoping to finally reclaim the Executive Branch
For the 21 years, the Liberty Party had managed to hold onto the executive branch of the Confederate government. Weathering the collapse of their coalition with the moderate Democrats, and winning two elections that were predicted to be Democratic years, it seemed that they were charmed in presidential elections. By 1921, however, they were a thoroughly weakened and exhausted party. By holding power for so long, they had managed to get much their agenda passed, and were struggling to develop new initiatives for their party to campaign on. Furthermore, they were finding it difficult to find a new face to rally behind. Until the 1915 election, every one of their presidential candidates had served as a general in the American Civil War, which by now was a bygone era. Without their traditional and preferred candidate to rally behind, they turned to the next best thing, a hero of another war, namely the Mexican Revolution. Secretary of War George H. Thomas Jr., however, declined to be a candidate just as he had done in 1915. With Underwood ineligible, and both Vice-President Duncan and Secretary of State Culberson unenthusiastic about running, the leaders of the current administration were out as well. Thus, the convention descended into madness.
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Woodrow Wilson addressing a crowd at the convention. Despite being humiliated during the Cleburne administration, Wilson hoped his career would rebound, and attempted to bring this about at the 1921 Liberty National Convention
As it opened, the lack of a prominent figure seeking the nomination left a vacuum that would be filled by a plethora of minor candidates. Among them were first term senator Joseph T. Robinson of Arkansas, former Vice-President and current Georgia senator M. Hoke Smith, Ambassador to the United States John W. Smith, Major General Duncan Hood (who had the endorsement of Thomas Jr.), Postmaster General Milford W. Howard, and Arizona Senator Marcus A. Smith. A minor, and largely ignored, candidate took the form of former Secretary of the Navy Woodrow Wilson. Currently out of favor with most of the party due to his conniving against Cleburne, he was unsurprised when his candidacy failed to gain much steam. Realizing that the only way he could regain power was to be in favor with the eventual nominee, Wilson began probing the bases of his rival candidates to attempt to predict who would receive the nomination. Meanwhile, the first ballot took place, with M. Hoke Smith leading, as he was the most favored by the party establishment. The rest of the candidates filled out the delegate count without any notable surprises. Knowing Smith was too close to the administration he tried to overthrow to be willing to take his support, Wilson would instead extend his backing to the runner-up, Ambassador John W. Smith. And as the ballots continued, and M. Hoke Smith began slowly bleeding support, many others within the convention came to the same result. Seeing the tide finally moving towards a nominee, President Underwood would endorse John W. Smith's candidacy. Following some politicking by Wilson within the Virginia delegation, Smith finally received enough delegates on the 34th ballot. By nominating a dark horse and relatively unknown candidate, the Liberty Party realized they would have trouble with fundraising for the campaign. This, alongside with wanting to solidify the base of the Southwestern states, can explain the selection of Chihuahua Governor Enrique "Henry Clay" Creel as Smith's running-mate, as he had a vast personal fortune from his business endeavors. Overall, many of the average party members found the ticket uninspiring, unexciting, and bland.
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John Smith and Enrique Creel
The Democratic Nominating Convention, by comparison, was highly energized. Three promising candidates were presented in the form of Speaker of the House Carter Class of Virginia, South Carolina Senator Coleman L. Blease, and former North Carolina Senator Furnifold Simmons. Each was able to rally considerable support for their candidacies despite being from neighboring states, and each stood out from one another. Glass was seen as a moderate who wouldn't shake up the current, and quite prosperous, establishment and instead enact Democratic versions of the current programs. Blease, meanwhile, was the radical, calling for the repeal of the abolition amendment, the removal of Confederate Army troopers from African-American communities to allow the white vigilantes to once again become the rule of law, and the stepping back from relations with the United States, including possibly even annulling the greatest achievement of the Underwood administration, the Triple Alliance. Simmons, finally, represented a mixture of Glass and Blease. While supporting Glass' positions on adapting many of the current government policies to a Democratic version and maintaining the Triple Alliance, he also supported Blease's points on racial issues, including the amendment and army encampments. His effective hedging between the two camps provided Simmons with the early lead in the convention, but the three way race ensured no candidate secured the necessary delegate count. Hoping to undermine the Glass campaign and break the deadlock, Simmons would reach out to General-in-Chief of the Confederate States Thomas J. Jackson II, son of President Jackson. From the sidelines, Jackson II had been quieting watching the convention and pondering if he should announce himself as a candidate. When Simmons reached out to him, that was the last prodding he required. Jackson's entry shocked the convention floor. Further surprise was brought about when Glass dropped out and endorsed Jackson, which led many to suspect either he had been the one to convince him to enter the race, or that he had swiftly made a deal with the general. Ultimately, the latter was true, having been promised the State Department. Glass' delegates, combined with those he drew from Blease and Simmons, gave Jackson the support he needed for the nomination. Once nominated for the presidency, Jackson endorsed Simmons to be his running-mate to acknowledge the role he had played in bringing him into the convention. The convention quickly nominated him on the first ballot. Thus, the Democrats finally had their war hero, and they were certain of victory come November.
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Thomas Jackson II and Furnifold Simmons
From the start, all signs seemed to point to a landslide Democratic victory. Even the candidates of the Liberty Party acknowledged this. Smith would rarely leave his home throughout the campaign, claiming he preferred front-porch addresses, but privately saying that the race wasn't even worth the train fares. Similarly, Creel would hold back much of the funding that he had been nominated for, and even at one point considering dropping himself from the ticket. Meanwhile, Jackson and his surrogates crisscrossed the nation, magnifying his achievements in the Mexican Revolution and appealing to the common man. Many newspapers of the day would point out that Jackson II had more in common with President Andrew Jackson than his father President Stonewall Jackson. When questioned why his political stances varied so widely from his father's, Jackson II would cite the time he had spent in the field. Unlike his father, he had risen through the ranks without a start at general, and he had fostered much closer relations with the common soldier. He also stated that the times had changed from the days of his father, and the best policies for the nation had changed with it. Ultimately, his campaign to connect with the common man succeed, and it seemed that in every state, even traditionally Liberty ones, banners of "Jackson for the Confederacy" or "Like Father, Like Son" were affixed in public places. When election night came, Jackson eagerly sat by the telephone with his friends and close advisers. Smith, meanwhile, slept through it in his mansion.
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A photograph of Smith's mansion, where the few campaign rallies he did host were held
When the results came in, they were the crushing landslide everyone had expected. Jackson had stomped Smith, winning 130 electoral votes compared to 32. Jackson had carried South Carolina, Arkansas, Florida, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, North Carolina, Virginia, Alabama, Sonora, Chihuahua, and Georgia. Smith had only won Maryland, Tennessee, Arizona, Baja California, and Verdigris. Jackson's crushing victory has often been attributed to his ability to not only rally Democrats out in droves, but also due to his appeal to traditional Liberty states. The most prominent examples of this were Sonora and Chihuahua. Although both were heavily Liberty, returning a fully Liberty congressional slate, they had gone, albeit narrowly for Jackson. This was likely to due to their memory of him being their defender during the Mexican Revolution, as well as the appeals to the common folk who populated the state. With an expanded majority in the House and a Senate flipped Democratic, Jackson and the Democratic Party seemed to have the mandate of the people to enact their policies.
 
Thank you for the compliment! I'm glad that you are enjoying (Is that the right word considering the chapter's situation?) reading this timeline. I wouldn't hold my breath for democracy's return in France though, it is going to be a long road...
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So does that mean France becomes TTL's version of Germany or Japan? Or more like Italy or even the Soviet Union? Or all of the above?
 
So does that mean France becomes TTL's version of Germany or Japan? Or more like Italy or even the Soviet Union? Or all of the above?
It is most similar to OTL Germany and the Soviet Union, and a little Japan. I wouldn't say that it is going to be a TTL version of any OTL country, but I guess similarities could be drawn between it and certain aspects of OTL countries.
 
sorry for the randomish question @TheRockofChickamauga but Have you given any thought to what confederate minority culture is going to look like ? by which I mean mexican confederates african confederates ect?

Sorry for the out of topic question but I recently read the recent parts of the timeline as well as visiting mexico and reading a MLK Bio and that made wonder.
 
sorry for the randomish question @TheRockofChickamauga but Have you given any thought to what confederate minority culture is going to look like ? by which I mean mexican confederates african confederates ect?

Sorry for the out of topic question but I recently read the recent parts of the timeline as well as visiting mexico and reading a MLK Bio and that made wonder.
I'm guess I'm glad that this TL is still getting looked at by people here on the site. I'll admit that looking back on it now, it certainly isn't up to what I think I can do now, but for being my first TL and my entry into this site in general, I still have a special place for it.

Anyways, back to what you were originally talking about, I'll have to be honest and say, no, not really. I really haven't thought all that much about any cultures ITTL, regardless of country or race, unless it directly connected to the story told. This TL started out as really me just testing the waters of this site, and seeing if and/or how I fit into the community. I didn't really think about what cultural impacts the butterflies of this TL would produce, and I'll be the first to admit that studying the development of culture(s) throughout a nation's history, especially ones with no relations to its political movements or military endeavors, have never been my strong suit. So, I'm sorry to disappoint, but not really.

But if you, having now read this TL, have thoughts, I'd be all open to hearing them, as they could help alleviate my blind spot. So, if you do, feel free to just post them here in the thread (or via PM, if you think that would be better), as I am eager to hear what you have to think or have already thought of. This also goes for anyone else who has ideas about developing more of the lore of this TL. I know I haven't really interacted with or made plans for updating this TL for a while, so maybe reading your thoughts can give me a spark of inspiration of what to write about. I know I kind of left France on a cliff-hanger, but I haven't had any real original or creative ideas for this TL in a while (which is largely why I started A House Divided Against Itself). For now, I am all ears to any thoughts on things like culture or other undermentioned topics from anyone.
 
Something I just discovered.
George Pendleton is president in this timeline from 1865-1869, followed by Daniel Sickles.
In 1846, Pendleton married Mary Alicia Key, the daughter of Francis Scott Key.
In 1859, Sickles murdered Philip Barton Key II, the son of Francis Scott Key.

That means the immediate successor to Pendleton is the murderer of his brother in law.

 
Something I just discovered.
George Pendleton is president in this timeline from 1865-1869, followed by Daniel Sickles.
In 1846, Pendleton married Mary Alicia Key, the daughter of Francis Scott Key.
In 1859, Sickles murdered Philip Barton Key II, the son of Francis Scott Key.

That means the immediate successor to Pendleton is the murderer of his brother in law.

So that means he has even more reason to be angry at Sickles for stealing away the Democratic presidential nomination from him. If only I had known when I was writing the chapter way back then!

Great historical sleuthing, by the way.
 
So that means he has even more reason to be angry at Sickles for stealing away the Democratic presidential nomination from him. If only I had known when I was writing the chapter way back then!

Great historical sleuthing, by the way.
Thanks! I stumbled on that realization while doing research for the update on my Daniel Webster timeline
 
Thank you for the compliment! I'm glad that you are enjoying (Is that the right word considering the chapter's situation?) reading this timeline. I wouldn't hold my breath for democracy's return in France though, it is going to be a long road...
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So, Foch and Trotsky's marriage ends in disaster?
 
Ah, that would be because I don't have enough space in my signature to fit in another timeline. It's called the Great Orator. If you go to my profile page, its on the about section.
"Daniel Webster timeline"? It's not in your sig is it? Sounds like something I'd definitely be interested in.
 
Thanks! I stumbled on that realization while doing research for the update on my Daniel Webster timeline
Oh, so it is making a return? I'm eagerly looking forward to the next update if it is!
"Daniel Webster timeline"? It's not in your sig is it? Sounds like something I'd definitely be interested in.
I can highly recommend it thus far.
So, Foch and Trotsky's marriage ends in disaster?
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Now that this thread has sparked up again, I have a bit of a question for anyone who is still viewing it. I think it is clear now that the new chapters for this TL have reached their end. Obviously, the TL is completed, and everything since then has just been add-ons, and with the election of Jackson Jr. to the presidency I think it has found another good stopping point. Nevertheless, some of the other material that I have provided has been left as cliffhangers (most notably the presidents lists and the fate of France). So, I was thinking about adding a second epilogue just to wrap up all those cliffhangers, putting the last of my ideas for this TL out for the public to see and finally laying it to rest so as to soley focus on new projects while also not having to worry about leaving questions unanswered. Despite realizing objectively that this isn't a hyper realistic or extremely well-written TL, I still hold fond feeling for it as my introduction to this site and for the groundwork it laid for my future endeavors. So would anyone be interested in a short of wrap-up chapter like that?
 
So, I was thinking about adding a second epilogue just to wrap up all those cliffhangers, putting the last of my ideas for this TL out for the public to see and finally laying it to rest so as to soley focus on new projects while also not having to worry about leaving questions unanswered

bit late but yes!
 
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