Is this TL a good start?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 66.7%
  • No

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • Perhaps?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    12
  • Poll closed .
I just realized the irony of the Battle of Rio Rosario: Italian-built warships and German-built submarines on the Ecuadorian side against Italian-built submarines and German-built warships on the Colombian side.
 
Well...South America is turning into a shitshow potentially. Wonder if we'll see any border changes from this and will we see any developments in Central America soon? *cough*Federal Republic of Central America reunification?*cough*.

Not exactly crazy considering how freaked they would be of how close the conflict is to their borders, especially Panama.

Central America update will be nice though all the same.
I don't really think that there will be any border changes but that's just my opinion
 
Can we have colombian DAS staging a magnicidio against Chávez??? *puppy eyes* :v
It would be very cool but would also kill any hope of a compromise. If you kill the leader of a country it will be almost impossible for his successor to sign a peace treaty since it would be seen as a "surrender" without being removed from power himself.
 
It would be very cool but would also kill any hope of a compromise. If you kill the leader of a country it will be almost impossible for his successor to sign a peace treaty since it would be seen as a "surrender" without being removed from power himself.
Yes, I think that you're right. The war has just started and I think that it would be a bit too much to already kill Chávez. You also need to consider that this war would most likely last for a very short period of time before other powers would get involved and try to end hostilities. IMAO killing Chávez would just escalate things and would not resolve anything in the long run. It's better to just use your special forces to harass enemy supplies and to target the enemies oil infrastructure.
 
It would be very cool but would also kill any hope of a compromise. If you kill the leader of a country it will be almost impossible for his successor to sign a peace treaty since it would be seen as a "surrender" without being removed from power himself.
Yeah. Killing another country's leader is no way going to resolve a war.
 
Yes, I think that you're right. The war has just started and I think that it would be a bit too much to already kill Chávez. You also need to consider that this war would most likely last for a very short period of time before other powers would get involved and try to end hostilities. IMAO killing Chávez would just escalate things and would not resolve anything in the long run. It's better to just use your special forces to harass enemy supplies and to target the enemies oil infrastructure.
Indeed. This is true.
 
Chapter 52
Times of the Caucasus:
Alliance of Patriots of Georgia and Prime Minister David Tarkhan-Mouravi Win Re-Election.

May, 2008.
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"The current pro-Russian regime in Georgia needs to be broken and fast. Georgia must not stay within the Russian sphere of influence." - Davit Kezerashvilli, Political refugee in Turkey. Minister of Defense during the Georgian Civil War and former close colleague to former President Sakaashvili.

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Russia Today:
Sakhalin-Kuril Oblast holds first gubernatorial election after reform!

May 2008

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The elections took place after the oblast reformed itself on April 12th, 2008, after which the province named itself the Oblast of Sakhalin-Kurils' instead of simply the Oblast of Sakhalin. Popular leader of the Green Party, Alexey Lushnikov has won the elections in the province. He has supported the ongoing ecological works in the area and has stated that he would continue them, and encourage them even further, as the island of Sakhalin and the Kuril Archipelago continues to become a Green Party stronghold in the Czardom of Russia.

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New York Times:
Rudy Giuliani confirmed as the Republican Nominee to the 2008 US Presidential Elections. Tom Tancredo remains his running mate.

May 4th, 2008

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Rudy Giuliani and Rick Perry

The duo have won the republican nomination to the Presidency. Giuliani faced a close run battle with Arizona Senator John McCain. Nicknamed 'America's Mayor', Giuliani has become quite popular as of late with his anti-authoritarianism speeches and his pro-active voice to be involved in Venezuela and Egypt as the Andean War continues and the Egyptian Civil War continues. Both Wars have created a massive slump in the economy and Giuliani has released a paper called the 'American Economic White Paper' which lists multiple ways with which he plans to bring the economy back up to shape. The recent recession has also brought into light many a drug problems and the drug smuggling racket in America is at an all time high. Giuliani has also promised to be 'Tough on Drugs' and has promised a 'War on Drugs' and start aiding Mexico more directly in their struggle against the drug cartels that control many swathes of Mexico.

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Some political observers have stated that Giuliani was this election's conservative faction as other than Giuliani's ambiguous position on Abortion [1] the man has become the spokesperson of many ideologies of the American conservatives.

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Times of America:
President Kerry raises the threat of Sanctions against Ecuador and Venezuela, even more in the case of the latter, in a bid to end the Andean War.

May 2008

President Kerry stated yesterday in the White House that he would place Sanctions against the countries of Ecuador and Venezuela if the two sides did not come to terms with Colombia by the end of the month. This comes as no surprise really to many and comes as Ecuador occupies significant passes in southern Colombia and Venezuela smashed the Colombian army with the aid of FARC and Communist rebels at the Battle of Serrania del Perija. The US President has stated that around 120 Ecuadorian companies and 270 Venezuelan companies and economical holdings would be targeted if the sanctions were placed and both sides did not come to terms with one another, and promised more military aid to Colombia as well, heightening tensions in the region as the Ecuadorian and Venezuelan populace riot in front of the American embassies in their respective nations due to this news.

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Kerry announcing sanctions if the war did not end.

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Times of Brazil:
Ecuador, Colombia, and Venezuela sign the Treaty of Kingston in Jamaica ending the state of hostilities of the Andean War. People Riot in Ecuador, Colombia and Venezuela.
May 28, 2008

The terms of this treaty are simply:-
1. Status Quo Antebellum territorially.
2. Colombia to pay $1.5 billion to Ecuador to pay for the damages done by Colombian raids into Ecuador.
3. Venezuela and Colombia to pay each other $450 million and $550 million respectively for damages of the war to one another.
4. Colombian government forbidden from entering Ecuadorian soil for any purpose with prior permission from the Ecuadorian government.
5. A Demilitarized border between all states involved.

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Refugees from the Andean War.


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Times of Europa:

Historic Climate Change Agreement Signed at Frankfurt.

May, 2008

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I think if the us directly intervened in the Egyptian civil war could make Libya also intervene and also inflamed anti American sentiment in the middle east, btw is the American still in iraq and Afghanistan
 
I think if the us directly intervened in the Egyptian civil war could make Libya also intervene and also inflamed anti American sentiment in the middle east, btw is the American still in iraq and Afghanistan
Us intervention in Egypt is for the future if it happens.
Us withdrew from Iraq but still has troops in Afghanistan.
 
Well...there goes Columbian hopes of a reunited Gran Columbia, not that they had much of a chance anyway.

Still, wonder how the smaller nations of Central America will be feeling? Might cause feelings of wanting to act more closely as a loose Federation or something EU like?

Either way, Central America deserves a look in and I wonder that since we are in 2008 if Russia won the bid to host Euro 2012 here instead of Poland and Ukraine like OTL? Being in better place financially Russia does stand a better chance and hopefully without being joint hosts that another nation can be there *cough*Scotland*cough*
 
Well...there goes Columbian hopes of a reunited Gran Columbia, not that they had much of a chance anyway.

Still, wonder how the smaller nations of Central America will be feeling? Might cause feelings of wanting to act more closely as a loose Federation or something EU like?

Either way, Central America deserves a look in and I wonder that since we are in 2008 if Russia won the bid to host Euro 2012 here instead of Poland and Ukraine like OTL? Being in better place financially Russia does stand a better chance and hopefully without being joint hosts that another nation can be there *cough*Scotland*cough*
we'll see
 
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