It kinda is. Somewhat.
Don't tell Blair that.
The aftermath is not going to be pretty for him
Russia Resurgent - A TL
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Don't tell Blair that.
The aftermath is not going to be pretty for him
Not finding it a free version on either one, could you take a picture of the text from hard copy ?
I did find some articles on the topic but they have Thabo Mbeki strongly reject the idea
Should Britain have invaded Zimbabwe?
According to Thabo Mbeki, Tony Blair wanted to overthrow Robert Mugabe by force. The former PM denies this – but would it have been such a bad idea?
www.independent.co.uk
I'd change the cause from the leaving Commonwealth which other nations have done and the members of said organization won't like to an issue around the White Farmers: Kith and Kin and the fact many of them also hold British citizenship seems like a better bet.
Hm, I guess I will change some part of it.Not finding it a free version on either one, could you take a picture of the text from hard copy ?
I did find some articles on the topic but they have Thabo Mbeki strongly reject the idea
Should Britain have invaded Zimbabwe?
According to Thabo Mbeki, Tony Blair wanted to overthrow Robert Mugabe by force. The former PM denies this – but would it have been such a bad idea?
I'd change the cause from the leaving Commonwealth which other nations have done and the members of said organization won't like to an issue around the White Farmers: Kith and Kin and the fact many of them also hold British citizenship seems like a better bet.
Small point in Russian pop culture: I feel like ITTL, the Russians might listen to these songs and feel prideful or hopeful, unlike OTL.
A bit more explanation: these songs are from Gostya iz Budushchego (Guest from the Future), a cult Soviet sci-fi miniseries. Maybe the Russians would like to revive the series and use it as pop culture exports with certain degree of hi-class Russian characteristics.
A bit more explanation: these songs are from Gostya iz Budushchego (Guest from the Future), a cult Soviet sci-fi miniseries. Maybe the Russians would like to revive the series and use it as pop culture exports with certain degree of hi-class Russian characteristics.
Chapter 27: Eurovision and Conflict.
Chapter 27: Eurovision and Conflict.
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Euro News:
Russia wins Eurovision 2005!
May 21, 2005
The Russian government is very proud to announce that the Russian contestant for the Eurovision Contest 2005 held in Kiev, Ukraine has won the Eurovision contest 2005! Natalia Podolskaya, a famous singer in the Czardom of Russia sang her song, Slava, which was a song that depicted the bravery of Russian troops in the Cold War, in the Great Game and the Great War to snatch the prize away from the nearby Greek contestant Helena Papirizou. Russian folk songs integrated with modern music and modern electronic sounds has been the rage recently in eastern Europe and many parts of Central Europe. The Russian government is pulling all the stops as Russian folk culture and Russian folk music and dances continue to grow more famous throughout the entirety of Europe. Famed Russian dance groups have already been booked in many studios of Stockholm, Helsinki, London, Paris, Berlin, and much more important centers of culture to perform their beautiful cultural arts.
natalia podolskaya winning the 2005 Eurovision Contest.
Vice-Chancellor Boris Nemtsov called this cultural awakening and cultural influence heartening in a speech yesterday.
“It is the warmest regards from the coldest parts of Russia from where we can see the influence of culture spreading far and wide. Even the most coldest of men would be happy to see the growth of our culture. The victory in Eurovision is simply another way forward for Russian culture and the Russian people as a whole. Congratulations Natalia! And congratulations Russia!”
The Russian government has also stated that they would like to become the host for Eurovision one day in the near future. From what we can tell from the statements released by the government and the organization, it seems that Eurovision 2007 will be held in St. Petersburg, Russia. Though this has not been confirmed, the government of Russia has stated that when Natalia returns from Kiev after the contest is finished, Her Imperial Majesty, Czarina Maria I will be the one to give Natalia the prize from Mother Russia itself. The Czarina has reportedly stated that she is more than happy to congratulate the contestant and stated that the monarchy of Russia would be more than happy to fund more cultural shows of Russian culture and folk traditions outside of Russia.
Russian Kalinka performers in London.
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Himalayan Times:
Russian Ambassador and Nepalese Foreign Minister sign revolutionary new deal.
July 7th, 2005
The Russian Ambassador to the Kingdom of Nepal, Ivan Markovnikov and the Prime Minister of Nepal, Girija Prasad Koirala has signed a massive new deal in Kathmandu yesterday. This deal has come forward after Russian intelligence and Russian enterprises showed a good amount of interest in the energy sector of Nepal. The Russian government has stated that for stability to reign back in Nepal, which is undergoing the brutal Nepalese Civil War, the Russian government was going to be selling weapons along with supervisors to the tiny Himalayan Kingdom. This has come under a time of slight relief for the tiny Himalayan monarchy as the kingdom struggles to hold the communists down and the death toll mounts. Added to the fact that King Gyanendra of Nepal continues to agitate for direct rule, the political situation in Nepal is tense, however if the Russian military arms deal with Nepal is successful, then it is highly likely that the Russian weapons and supervisors may be able to turn the tide in the Nepalese Civil War.
Nepalese Army in the Nepalese Civil War.
In return, the Kingdom of Nepal has agreed to conduct the construction of two major mega-projects; the Trishuli Hydropower Dam, the Marshyangdi Hydropower Dam and the Mustang Air Field Farm. The Russian government is going to be funding these projects according to the deal signed by both nations. New Delhi has expressed it’s displeasure over what some call ‘Russian meddling in the sphere of influence of India’. Nonetheless, the deal has gone ahead.
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The African News:
France announces commitment of 2500 troops in Chad as the Chadian Civil War continues to excel in intensity
July 28th, 2005
The French government has stated that the French Armed Forces will be placing around 2500 armed soldiers in Chad to aid the Chadian government to put down the Front for United Democracy (FUC) in the Chadian Civil War. The Chadian Civil War has already claimed the lives of hundreds in Chad, and the scale of the conflict only seems to be growing. The French government has also come under heavy fire from the United Nations Human Rights Council and the United Nations General Assembly as evidence of war crimes from the Chadian government continue to come to the forefront. The Chadian government is an authoritarian government that controls the freedom of it’s people, and the entirety of the world knows this, however it is also for all intents and purposes a French client state in the Sahara, which has made French intervention in the country inevitable. Nonetheless, the continued support for an undemocratic and authoritarian government who is not above committing war crimes has stated to reflect badly on France, as some members of the French government have called for French troops in Chad to be taken out, and let the internal conflict blow over between the two sides.
Chadian Civil War frontlines, (south is government), (north is FUC).
Meanwhile the Russian government has made their support of the Front for United Democracy clear for all to see, and has stated that the Russian government would not allow the freedom of the Chadian civil population go imprisoned. The Russian government has however put out an olive branch towards France to find a proper solution to the crisis brewing in Chad. The French government has rejected these peace talks, and President Chirac has been adamant that the status quo would be maintained in Chad, which in turn has angered his Russian opponents.
The Russian government has also slammed the French government for terminating the scholarships of around 500 Russian students studying in universities all across France in retaliation for the proxy war brewing in Africa. The Russian government has called the termination of the scholarship “A gross intervention of putting innocent people as bystanders and hostage by the French government.”
Russian students in France.
In return, the Russian government has also retaliated by freezing all French assets in the Collective Security Treaty Organization Free Market. This has already made inflation grow in France, and some budget issues have been announced already. It is unclear whether or not the French government will respond by freezing Russian assets as well, however the Russian government has made it clear, that whilst they would wish for peace talks, they would not be talking from a position of weakness, but would be talking from a position of utmost strength.
President Kerry of the United States of America has called for a thaw in relations, and has stated that the United States of America would be more than willing to aid the stalled peace talks between the two sides of the Chadian Civil War, and the proxies of Russia and France. Russia has already announced that they would be more than willing to accept the peace talks, however the French government has provided no statement till now. Further news will be provided when the French government issues a statement.
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The New York Tribune
Britain Occupies Zimbabwe with South Africa
August 11th, 2005
As British Tanks and South Africa Tanks roll into Harare, the British intervention in Zimbabwe is over. However Mugabe tried to escape in the ensuing chaos of the Battle of Harare, however Special SAS units from the British portion of the intervention, managed to intercept him and his forward guard in time to capture the dictator and strongman of Zimbabwe. The country of Zimbabwe has been put under full occupation. The British government under Tony Blair has stated that the occupation would be conducted for a period of 3 months, when a new democratic government would be elected by the people of Zimbabwe, and the British and South African troops and armed forces would then withdraw from Zimbabwe. The people of Zimbabwe fed up with the abysmal economic condition of their country, has mostly accepted the occupation, however sources do talk about isolated incidents of guerilla warfare from Mugabe loyalists. Nonetheless, Mugabe will be brought before the Hague where he will be judged for his human rights violations in front of the international community.
Mugabe was captured by SAS troops.
Prime Minister Tony Blair has stated that Britain would be willing to fund the reconstruction and re-management of the Zimbabwean economy and nation under the guidance of the Commonwealth of Nations. The interim government formed in Harare formed of pro-democrats jailed by Mugabe have accepted this offer. From what we can understand, British troops are already withdrawing from Zimbabwe, with only the bare minimum being kept, however South African troops have been told to stay put for the large part. We will have to wait to see how the situation in Zimbabwe unfolds.
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Military Journal:
Russia lays down Second Aircraft Carrier as Military development continue to grow.
August 27th, 2005
The Russian government had initially stated that they would be constructing three new aircraft carriers, however instead, looking at their budgets, the number was reduced to two. The first aircraft carrier was laid down in 2003 as the IRS Shtorm, and the second aircraft carrier of the Shtorm class, IRS Alexander II has been laid down and begun construction in Sevastopol, alongside her sister ship which is around ¼ completed. The Russian government has stated that IRS Shtorm will be joining up with the White Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy and being attached to the fleet whilst the IRS Alexander II will be attached to the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
IRS Shtorm in the North Atlantic in 2014.
According to the sources we do have currently, it seems that the Russian government has also increased their limit for the SM-Boggrom from 15 squadrons to 18 squadrons, which brings the total number of the fifth generation plane to around 216. Currently there are around 32 SM-Boggroms in active service, and the Russian government has stated that the total number of 216 would be reached by 2008, making the Russian Airforce a deadly foe. There are also whispers circulating about, that Russia wishes to send a squadron of the SM-Boggrom to Chad from where they will aid the FUC, to send a message to France. This has neither been proven nor substantiated, however from what we can understand, the French government is not taking this lightly as French SAMs have been seen in Chad recently.
The Black Eagle Main Battle Tank has also entered production lines in the Czardom of Russia, and around 150 are expected to be constructed and entered into service by the end of 2005. The Russian government has stated that the Armored Divisions containing T-80s will be sent to Siberia, where their turbine engine allows them to work even in the freezing cold temperature, and that the Black Eagle and the T-90 would become the backbone of the main heavy hitter Russian Armored Forces. The Russian government has also recently released a statement stating that the Russian Air Force currently has 400 Su-47 warplanes, which have raised a lot of heads in NATO command. Nonetheless, from what we can understand, European countries, barring France at the moment, are becoming more and more lukewarm to the idea of an anti-Russian pact in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization or the European Union as Russian economic ties in Europe and vice versa continue to grow. It is unknown how this will affect relations between pro-Russian European states and anti-Russian European states in the future.
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Euro News:
Russia wins Eurovision 2005!
May 21, 2005
The Russian government is very proud to announce that the Russian contestant for the Eurovision Contest 2005 held in Kiev, Ukraine has won the Eurovision contest 2005! Natalia Podolskaya, a famous singer in the Czardom of Russia sang her song, Slava, which was a song that depicted the bravery of Russian troops in the Cold War, in the Great Game and the Great War to snatch the prize away from the nearby Greek contestant Helena Papirizou. Russian folk songs integrated with modern music and modern electronic sounds has been the rage recently in eastern Europe and many parts of Central Europe. The Russian government is pulling all the stops as Russian folk culture and Russian folk music and dances continue to grow more famous throughout the entirety of Europe. Famed Russian dance groups have already been booked in many studios of Stockholm, Helsinki, London, Paris, Berlin, and much more important centers of culture to perform their beautiful cultural arts.
natalia podolskaya winning the 2005 Eurovision Contest.
Vice-Chancellor Boris Nemtsov called this cultural awakening and cultural influence heartening in a speech yesterday.
“It is the warmest regards from the coldest parts of Russia from where we can see the influence of culture spreading far and wide. Even the most coldest of men would be happy to see the growth of our culture. The victory in Eurovision is simply another way forward for Russian culture and the Russian people as a whole. Congratulations Natalia! And congratulations Russia!”
The Russian government has also stated that they would like to become the host for Eurovision one day in the near future. From what we can tell from the statements released by the government and the organization, it seems that Eurovision 2007 will be held in St. Petersburg, Russia. Though this has not been confirmed, the government of Russia has stated that when Natalia returns from Kiev after the contest is finished, Her Imperial Majesty, Czarina Maria I will be the one to give Natalia the prize from Mother Russia itself. The Czarina has reportedly stated that she is more than happy to congratulate the contestant and stated that the monarchy of Russia would be more than happy to fund more cultural shows of Russian culture and folk traditions outside of Russia.
Russian Kalinka performers in London.
****
Himalayan Times:
Russian Ambassador and Nepalese Foreign Minister sign revolutionary new deal.
July 7th, 2005
The Russian Ambassador to the Kingdom of Nepal, Ivan Markovnikov and the Prime Minister of Nepal, Girija Prasad Koirala has signed a massive new deal in Kathmandu yesterday. This deal has come forward after Russian intelligence and Russian enterprises showed a good amount of interest in the energy sector of Nepal. The Russian government has stated that for stability to reign back in Nepal, which is undergoing the brutal Nepalese Civil War, the Russian government was going to be selling weapons along with supervisors to the tiny Himalayan Kingdom. This has come under a time of slight relief for the tiny Himalayan monarchy as the kingdom struggles to hold the communists down and the death toll mounts. Added to the fact that King Gyanendra of Nepal continues to agitate for direct rule, the political situation in Nepal is tense, however if the Russian military arms deal with Nepal is successful, then it is highly likely that the Russian weapons and supervisors may be able to turn the tide in the Nepalese Civil War.
Nepalese Army in the Nepalese Civil War.
In return, the Kingdom of Nepal has agreed to conduct the construction of two major mega-projects; the Trishuli Hydropower Dam, the Marshyangdi Hydropower Dam and the Mustang Air Field Farm. The Russian government is going to be funding these projects according to the deal signed by both nations. New Delhi has expressed it’s displeasure over what some call ‘Russian meddling in the sphere of influence of India’. Nonetheless, the deal has gone ahead.
***
The African News:
France announces commitment of 2500 troops in Chad as the Chadian Civil War continues to excel in intensity
July 28th, 2005
The French government has stated that the French Armed Forces will be placing around 2500 armed soldiers in Chad to aid the Chadian government to put down the Front for United Democracy (FUC) in the Chadian Civil War. The Chadian Civil War has already claimed the lives of hundreds in Chad, and the scale of the conflict only seems to be growing. The French government has also come under heavy fire from the United Nations Human Rights Council and the United Nations General Assembly as evidence of war crimes from the Chadian government continue to come to the forefront. The Chadian government is an authoritarian government that controls the freedom of it’s people, and the entirety of the world knows this, however it is also for all intents and purposes a French client state in the Sahara, which has made French intervention in the country inevitable. Nonetheless, the continued support for an undemocratic and authoritarian government who is not above committing war crimes has stated to reflect badly on France, as some members of the French government have called for French troops in Chad to be taken out, and let the internal conflict blow over between the two sides.
Chadian Civil War frontlines, (south is government), (north is FUC).
Meanwhile the Russian government has made their support of the Front for United Democracy clear for all to see, and has stated that the Russian government would not allow the freedom of the Chadian civil population go imprisoned. The Russian government has however put out an olive branch towards France to find a proper solution to the crisis brewing in Chad. The French government has rejected these peace talks, and President Chirac has been adamant that the status quo would be maintained in Chad, which in turn has angered his Russian opponents.
The Russian government has also slammed the French government for terminating the scholarships of around 500 Russian students studying in universities all across France in retaliation for the proxy war brewing in Africa. The Russian government has called the termination of the scholarship “A gross intervention of putting innocent people as bystanders and hostage by the French government.”
Russian students in France.
In return, the Russian government has also retaliated by freezing all French assets in the Collective Security Treaty Organization Free Market. This has already made inflation grow in France, and some budget issues have been announced already. It is unclear whether or not the French government will respond by freezing Russian assets as well, however the Russian government has made it clear, that whilst they would wish for peace talks, they would not be talking from a position of weakness, but would be talking from a position of utmost strength.
President Kerry of the United States of America has called for a thaw in relations, and has stated that the United States of America would be more than willing to aid the stalled peace talks between the two sides of the Chadian Civil War, and the proxies of Russia and France. Russia has already announced that they would be more than willing to accept the peace talks, however the French government has provided no statement till now. Further news will be provided when the French government issues a statement.
***
The New York Tribune
Britain Occupies Zimbabwe with South Africa
August 11th, 2005
As British Tanks and South Africa Tanks roll into Harare, the British intervention in Zimbabwe is over. However Mugabe tried to escape in the ensuing chaos of the Battle of Harare, however Special SAS units from the British portion of the intervention, managed to intercept him and his forward guard in time to capture the dictator and strongman of Zimbabwe. The country of Zimbabwe has been put under full occupation. The British government under Tony Blair has stated that the occupation would be conducted for a period of 3 months, when a new democratic government would be elected by the people of Zimbabwe, and the British and South African troops and armed forces would then withdraw from Zimbabwe. The people of Zimbabwe fed up with the abysmal economic condition of their country, has mostly accepted the occupation, however sources do talk about isolated incidents of guerilla warfare from Mugabe loyalists. Nonetheless, Mugabe will be brought before the Hague where he will be judged for his human rights violations in front of the international community.
Mugabe was captured by SAS troops.
Prime Minister Tony Blair has stated that Britain would be willing to fund the reconstruction and re-management of the Zimbabwean economy and nation under the guidance of the Commonwealth of Nations. The interim government formed in Harare formed of pro-democrats jailed by Mugabe have accepted this offer. From what we can understand, British troops are already withdrawing from Zimbabwe, with only the bare minimum being kept, however South African troops have been told to stay put for the large part. We will have to wait to see how the situation in Zimbabwe unfolds.
***
Military Journal:
Russia lays down Second Aircraft Carrier as Military development continue to grow.
August 27th, 2005
The Russian government had initially stated that they would be constructing three new aircraft carriers, however instead, looking at their budgets, the number was reduced to two. The first aircraft carrier was laid down in 2003 as the IRS Shtorm, and the second aircraft carrier of the Shtorm class, IRS Alexander II has been laid down and begun construction in Sevastopol, alongside her sister ship which is around ¼ completed. The Russian government has stated that IRS Shtorm will be joining up with the White Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy and being attached to the fleet whilst the IRS Alexander II will be attached to the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
IRS Shtorm in the North Atlantic in 2014.
According to the sources we do have currently, it seems that the Russian government has also increased their limit for the SM-Boggrom from 15 squadrons to 18 squadrons, which brings the total number of the fifth generation plane to around 216. Currently there are around 32 SM-Boggroms in active service, and the Russian government has stated that the total number of 216 would be reached by 2008, making the Russian Airforce a deadly foe. There are also whispers circulating about, that Russia wishes to send a squadron of the SM-Boggrom to Chad from where they will aid the FUC, to send a message to France. This has neither been proven nor substantiated, however from what we can understand, the French government is not taking this lightly as French SAMs have been seen in Chad recently.
The Black Eagle Main Battle Tank has also entered production lines in the Czardom of Russia, and around 150 are expected to be constructed and entered into service by the end of 2005. The Russian government has stated that the Armored Divisions containing T-80s will be sent to Siberia, where their turbine engine allows them to work even in the freezing cold temperature, and that the Black Eagle and the T-90 would become the backbone of the main heavy hitter Russian Armored Forces. The Russian government has also recently released a statement stating that the Russian Air Force currently has 400 Su-47 warplanes, which have raised a lot of heads in NATO command. Nonetheless, from what we can understand, European countries, barring France at the moment, are becoming more and more lukewarm to the idea of an anti-Russian pact in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization or the European Union as Russian economic ties in Europe and vice versa continue to grow. It is unknown how this will affect relations between pro-Russian European states and anti-Russian European states in the future.
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Regards to Zimbabwe, I wonder for South Africans if the thought of the once proposed 'Greater' South Africa superstate might have gone through the minds of many while they occupy the country...
Tidier borders if we see Botswana and Namibia join in! That all said, wonder if we'll see border changes with more African superstates coming around soon?
Tidier borders if we see Botswana and Namibia join in! That all said, wonder if we'll see border changes with more African superstates coming around soon?
Two words why african superstates don't really work unlike what many people in this forum believe.
Ethnicity
Religion.
Tensions too high. Superstates would take at least a period of time of at least 3 decades to slowly ease into. Too fast and it would implode on itself.
