Rebirth of an Empire "O Renascimento de um Império" v2.0

Pressing citizens into sailing was also viewed negatively in the public plaza since the instauration of the Merchant Navy. Most speakers now considered that sea drafts impacted the economy and the Navy negatively by employing unskilled men away from jobs where they were more needed towards a risky profession.

After this war, will the government institute something like a NAval Reserve, like the French inscription maritime: any seamen had to register on a list, which would be called in cases of emergency?

King Joseph II was dragged to the spotlight of the war by the power vacuum left behind by Pombal’s growing frailty and the lack of major military heroes, forcing him to face the fears of the war dead on.

Let's hope he will grow, especially in a time of reforms.

In Brazil, colonial governors voted in assembly to informally oppose the war in an overwhelming 7-to-3 majority, the only exceptions being Cisplatina, Paraná and Southern Rio Grande, which were politically more militarized and geographically less vulnerable to French naval threats. The remaining states, feeling more exposed, nevertheless accepted to continue providing full economic, diplomatic and professional troop support as they could not legally refuse support in what was being politically described as a defensive maritime war, but refusing the commitment of their native Army of Brazil to avoid attracting French wrath.[1] This sentiment became especially prevalent in 1782, when Admiral Pierre Saint Tropez began his string of victories down the Atlantic against the English, including at Cape Verde.

Will French territories near Brazil be annexed in case of victory?

On the 27 April 1782, more than a year later, the main bodies of the Portuguese Merchant fleet and of the Portuguese Navy finally organized themselves at Lisbon. The ships built in the 100 Thousand Tons program, previously unmanned, were now crewed by the sailors and veterans serving the Merchant Fleet willingly. To many people the sight of these men boarding the warships in the northern ports was the first sign of confidence the government showed in the war, affecting the perception of the king from there on after.

In case of victory, will the burghers ask for more representation in government: sure, something like a Parliament might be too far but will more burghers be nominated in high posts and councils?
 

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hmmm intresting so this war cause a fear of home invasion causing more forts to be built than before and increasing fortifactions
also nice too see that this will cuase a reformation of navy to better uit modern standards
ince again a amazing update
With Brazil being in charge of its own defense and with a mentality of Brazil first then empire it makes sense that Rio and the Portuguese provinces in South America would take a much more keen interest in their own defense. At same time Portuguese Empire navy is way stronger than iOtl and a huge part of the navy is both based in South Atlantic and new naval yards in Brazil are transforming it to a major ship building center. So naval reforms and expansions will continue. The war itself will serve as a reminder of the country's need for strong naval force.

Senegal/French Africa after the last update:
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French interests in Africa, India and elsewhere are in danger of being over run, if not for conquest then as part of bargaining chip, although for some reason France always seemed to escape wars with a greater share of its wealth / territory than it was implied in its war losses. For this confuses some people today with the attitude of forcing a country to accept being forced by other powers to their territory demands. In fact we can see the territory loses of the 7 year war and iotl ARW that France escaped with much better retention of its territory than its war effort and success suggested.

So as to what we can expect, we will need to wait for peace treaty of war f 1783.
A meritocracy avant la lettre .
New blood instead of aristocratic dinosaurs
Using the best people in the right moment can and will make a difference in this hard times and in the future
Sim, yes.
The Portuguese due to the limited number of qualified nobel born individuals is either going to have to promote mediocracy or promote people not of noble rank but with good/great skills to the many positions. This is especially true in the outset, luckily till now the country's leaders have opted for about 2/3 of its appointment for skills instead of noble blood. As the higher learning centers "colegio de nobres" and universities turn out both nobles and non noble students this will provide the country with a wider range of options to fill the country's many military and administration posts.

Are the Land based Fortifications on par with the Coastal Fortification?
Fortifications are place in strategic locations and most land based fortifications are at first wooden forts, over time many are converted to strong steel/stone/concrete structures as the need dictate. Many a time the need for a fortification could disappear due to pacification of an area, continued expansion inland requiring fortification in other newly acquired areas and older fortifications are either dismantled or abandoned.

So to answer your question, it depends where military danger is consistent the country has and will build strong military structures as strong or even stronger than coastal Fortifications. The biggest threat to the Portuguese empire spread out over 5 continents and around the globe will be naval and that will be a huge part of the country's defense.
 

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After this war, will the government institute something like a NAval Reserve, like the French inscription maritime: any seamen had to register on a list, which would be called in cases of emergency?
The current Portuguese model of Portuguese Merchant Marine provide the Portuguese with some flexibility in terms of both manpower and ships in times of war and with the limited population in Metropolitan Portugal the implementation of program like the French be hard. That being said we are touching on another major distinction of both the Portuguese army and navy; that being the inclusion of non-Europeans as part of its forces. We have already had a few posts in the past about the recruitment of non-Europeans in the military and navy and over time they will not only continue to be a major contingency of the Portuguese armed forces but also make inroads in the command structure. Therefore we can say the Portuguese reserves are non-Europeans who will continue to constitute a greater percentage of the Portuguese armed forces. Note: there is no difference in terms of training and quality of troops between Europeans and non-Europeans as we are have witnessed in the previous posts.

Let's hope he will grow, especially in a time of reforms.
Yes he does continue to grow, he afterall was very young when he became king, not having the luxury of gaining knowledge and experience while observing his father or mother governing. He has one of the country's longest reigns and during his reign the country will progress and modernize which will be led by him.


Will French territories near Brazil be annexed in case of victory?
hm.. to tell that would spoil the surprise, that being said I think we need to understand Portuguese actions during this war has been defensive war and neither Brazilian forces nor Portuguese forces have both the capabilities and strength to wage both an offensive and defensive war. Also as I mentioned before it seems that France allways seems to land on its feet. It get slapped as a result of the wars it losses but never punished.


In case of victory, will the burghers ask for more representation in government: sure, something like a Parliament might be too far but will more burghers be nominated in high posts and councils?
Yes over time this seems to be where the country is headed. While iOTL, constitutional monarchy only arrived in Portugal after the civil war here we can see how a more prosperous and stronger Portugal would be more likely to implement it sooner.
 

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Boa Tarde, Good afternoon, hope everyone is safe and healthy along with all your friends and family.

I wanted to make an announcement that after over four years writing and editing the TLThrudgelmir2333 has decided to step back and concentrate on editing and providing support to the TL. I want to thank him with all my heart the tremendous effort and dedication he has made in writing for we are over 1,000 pages of writing and still counting. He has brought a real wonderful talent to the TL and it is that much better and richer due to his effort. Thank you, Obrigado.

The TL will be continuing and we have a lot of stories and history to tell and still write. Which bring me to the next part I am looking for contributors and budding writers who would like to contribute be I writing, artwork or other support. It can be for a specific topic/story or ongoing basis. Those interested can contact me and we can talk about their interests and knowledge and we can then decide what be best way they can be involved.

We normally write anywhere between 1-2 years in advance of the posting schedule, this way we can review and discuss topics and flush out ideas and figure out how thing will fit in.
Thank you for your readership, support and most of all interest in the story of the Portuguese.

Lusitania
 
Noooooo, I've become so used to there being another chapter since i started this amazing story i'm really sad to have caught up to the newest chapter haha, Based of the main problem of the navy being lack of trained crew it looks like they'll need to build more naval colleges in the colonies.
 

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Noooooo, I've become so used to there being another chapter since i started this amazing story i'm really sad to have caught up to the newest chapter haha, Based of the main problem of the navy being lack of trained crew it looks like they'll need to build more naval colleges in the colonies.
Hi there there will be lots of new chapter. I will continue writing and Thrudgelmir2333 will continue as editor and support. In addition I am looking for contributors who can write, draw and or research to provide either specific contribution for specific stories, topics or ongoing. Email me if interested. Thanks.

Otherwise see you Sunday with next post.

stay safe.
 
The Three-Years War (1780-1783) - The Luso-French Maritime War (1780-1782) (6 of 7)

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The Three-Years War (1780-1783) (cont.)

The Luso-French Maritime War (1780-1782) ( 6 of 7)

Atlantic Theatre (1780-1782) (cont.)

Maritime Escalation & Congo Region Combat

The objective delineated by Admiral Castro was the following; the Portuguese Navy and the Merchant Fleet would act towards maintaining trade routes and delaying a potential French amphibious offensive until the vulnerable entry points in the Metropolis were properly fortified with coastal defenses. To this end, the Portuguese Army pledged its resources to accelerate construction and arming on the ground, not expecting a land expedition from the French thanks to Spanish neutrality. Should the defenses be completed in time, an amphibious invasion would be likely deemed impractical and the Portuguese would be able to sign white peace with Paris. Moreover, decisive battles were to be avoided at all costs.

Prospects for the war were worrying, however. As already stated, technological and industrial ceilings limited construction speed in Portugal. It could take years to complete the necessary protections and both navies could in the meantime be eliminated by combat. As for the fleet itself, the Merchant Navy ships compensated the absence of the Indian and South Atlantic squadrons enough for the present forces to reflect the same might that was aimed to reach that of the Russian Imperial Fleet, but the French armada, built up to surpass the British still surpassed the Portuguese one almost two-to-one.

An interesting hypothesis was proposed by the war room; the tense political situation in France could mean that a decisive battle would have a determining effect in French morale, as big ships were expensive to replace and people in France were angry enough at the King for starving them.

King Joseph II, however, opposed this hypothesis. He maintained his determination not to aggravate the French economy, especially at the risk of his own forces, though this was mostly motivated by an humanitarian perspective that was not shared by his cabinet and war room. Even so, orders were pushed through to avoid frontal combat.

Eventually, maritime warfare factually begun, with Portuguese squadrons patrolling for weaknesses in French ships and these, in answer, beginning to attack Portuguese ships in the Atlantic as well. Portuguese government tried unsuccessfully through diplomacy to get the French to stop but the French were adamant that Portugal and Great Britain were allies and therefore in war together with them.

In October 1781, following the defeat in Chesapeake of Cornwallis at the hands of the Americans and French, enough French ships were relieved for the French to send a naval task force of 10 warships against Luanda in an attempt to capture the town and push the Portuguese away from the Congo region. French interest in the Congo region had been spiked since the end of the 4th Luso-Kongo War, when the international enclave of Cabinda was established thanks to a Franco-Dutch diplomatic intervention to ensure the free interaction of the West with the Congo Basin regardless of the stardom of Portuguese presence in the area. Scientific pursuits had increased in number since explorers under the Lencastre tenure mapped the western branches of the Congo River, as well as a possible source of the Zambezi, and the first pharmacies and laboratories were opened in Luanda.

There was thus a modernized interest in capturing the region. The strategy to hurt Angola was sound, though, due mostly to the fact that Intel provided by Admiral Struffen as he made his way around the Cape to India suggested that the most aged squadron in the Portuguese Navy was stationed there, with some old warships still featured after old galleon designs.

The Angola-Congo territory, however, under the leadership of Duke Lencastre and Marquis Henry, had developed their land defenses significantly after the Fourth Luso-Congo War, with the main naval entry point of Luanda being garrisoned by two brigades made up of veterans of the war with the Manikongo and the city itself comprising of a bay with a hilled fort armed by coastal defenses unrivalled in the basin.

The brutal battle of Luanda lasted for weeks, with the ten ships repeatedly trying to break the stubborn resistance from the neutral base in Cabinda. At one point, the aged galleons on the Portuguese side were so damaged they got stuck in the bay and were fed through boat from the harbor with ammunition and crew, forming a wooden wall of old bronze cannons desperately trying to fight off the various, more agile French ships. The Marines conducted the effort heroically, making use of their amphibious training to man the wrecked boats, scrapping the bottom of the barrels to fire just one more shot.

Meanwhile support continued from the shore, with people rallied to carry guns to the hill and fire at the French, miss them or not. Marquis Henry continuously sent rations from his northernmost territory to Luanda.


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Portuguese Luanda defended itself against the attacking French despite its aged ships thanks mostly to natural defenses, low sea width in the bay and a strong support from land

The town’s defenses proved too strong and when a Portuguese naval force from Brazil arrived in the area it was able to defeat the French in the naval battle off the coast of Angola. The French force lost 2 ships and 5 other ships were damaged in the fighting while the Portuguese lost 3 ships. The French force was forced to withdraw and retreat to Cabinda again and plan another offensive. The new Manikongo, Pedro V, however, was allied to the Portuguese as well as the main diplomatic force in the region and threatened to nullify Cabinda’s neutrality and kick off the French himself if the fighting continued. This left the remaining French possessions in the South Atlantic and Indian Ocean unprotected from both Portuguese and British attacks.

Fantastic! Now my bay is filled with broken ships - just what I wanted! Would someone please get the crane?!
-Duke Lencastre, yelling at his captains after the lengthy battle of Luanda

The Nightmare at Sea & The Catastrophe of Cantabria

In December 1781, a French naval force of 25 ships started attacking Portuguese shipping off the St. Vincent Cape, where the routes to Brazil and West Africa laid, and throughout the Lisbon-Azores area, where the supply lines to the North American theater crossed. At this particular point in time, the Anglo-French fighting was focused further north, meaning the French had a small window of opportunity to attack Portugal provided they could clear a sea path immediately.

The French fighting, however, was impaired by winter sea storms assailing the North Spanish coast, where the main Franco-Luso sea path was located, and while a similar force was based in Marseille in the Mediterranean, it was currently fighting the Gibraltar squadrons of the English and could not reliably ensure a southern path. Therefore, throughout December, January and February, French fighting limited itself to harassing commerce with small unfocused squadrons and scouting the naval path from their base in La Rochelle. Moreover, traditionally a slavery port, the naval base had undergone a period of recession following the repeal of slavery in Portugal and England, not to mention the increasing famine in the countryside made financial matters more unstable. The port could only outfit a few expeditions at a time compared to its prime, hurting the offensive further.

Even so, on 3 March 1782, the 25 French ships gathered at La Rochele under Admiral François de Grasse, just returned from his victories in New York. He had initially intended to further his grand plan against the British in America by sailing south and, in collusion with the Spanish colonies, conduct an attack on Jamaica where the English held a major sugar plantation arguably more important than the Thirteen Colonies themselves. The evolution of the war, however, presented the French with a shift of fate; back in 1779, the British king himself, George III, had declared to Lord Sandwich that the Caribbean possessions took priority in protection, resulting in a gradual built up of English forces there.

In November 1781 upon arriving in Saint Domingue, François was given a red flag to interrupt the plan and sail back home on the grounds of the overwhelming enemy presence and the positive situation in mainland America, instead focusing back in Europe where his leadership was needed to conduct an offensive on Lisbon.

Thus the French began their more direct assaults on Portuguese waters. It was then that begun the worst period of the war for the Portuguese, with the French captains successfully interrupting trade lines and attacking convoys. Throughout March and early April, the Portuguese lost a small fortune in captured cargo ships and the Lisbon-London supply lines were effectively cut.


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Admiral François de Grasse
1723-1788
The French Admiral led the French offensive from the naval base at La Rochelle

Admiral’s François offensive was spectacular, interrupting the most important profit line for Portugal north of Lisbon and seizing dozens of small convoys. The sheer capital speculation caused by this sent the Chamber of Commerce into a frenzy, unable to contact its assets in Hamburg and beyond. The month of November of 1781 was nicknamed “The Nightmare at Sea” due to the merchant terror of setting sail from Oporto to England and more as well as the seemingly powerlessness of their English allies to put a stop to it.

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The Nightmare at Sea
Purple: French Offensive
Black: Portuguese main commerce lines
French Operations effectively cut an artery of Portuguese profits, forcing the weaker country to play on French terms

In reality, however, the effective damage was limited due to a number of factors; the French naval base, as already stated, was unfit to feed a larger scale offensive, meaning some of the French were able to force Portuguese vessels into surrender without a ball to load their frightening cannons with, but of course this bluff only went so far, and the anxiety leading to this month had been so great that many interested parties had withdrawn their exchanges through the Biscay Bay anyway or took the longer route to England and Ireland.

It still needed a mobilized effort to break this faux blockade; the Frota Mobilizada, possessing over 50 small-scale war vessels (the most impressive ships were watered down versions of Castro Model second-rates and barely numbered four or five), initiated its wide-spanning screening offensive on the Biscay Bay. Throughout December, amidst winter storms and the cold, the large but weaker fleet engaged the 25 French warships at open sea in a wide-width battle that would last weeks and weeks (being truthfully composed of a series of indirect skirmishes meant to render French efforts to snip Portuguese commerce ineffective).

To join the Portuguese containment of the French operation was a small force of British vessels from their own blockade closest to the combat area. At the peak of the long battle, over 100 ships were in one way or other involved in this particular sea area, playing hide-and-seek with one another while allowing the Portuguese commerce to seep through the rear.


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Battle of Biscay Bay
Vice-Admiral Bernardo Esquivel and Admiral Grasse fought the vital, long spanning sea battle of the Biscay Bay across several weeks, which screened the heavier French fleet into a smaller, contained sea area away from the commerce vessels

December and January were the months this battle lasted and were filled with dread for the Portuguese side, on which its entire self-protection and market profits hinged. Should the screening fail, the French would be allowed to continue playing cat and mouse with the British Fleet and endanger the stability of the Portuguese empire, which depended almost entirely on maintaining its own expensive logistics through commerce profits. The Frota Mobilizada was motivated but outmatched, barely possessing the firepower needed to fight French ships to a standstill.

However, what ended up occurring omened the outcome of the war itself; the Portuguese merchant vessels, being smaller and recently fit, were faster and more flexible than the French warships and thus able to hit-and-run the French giants for days on end. The French main advantage was the targeting of the commerce lines, but if the Portuguese fleet convoyed it while harassing the heavy ships it could escort the merchants and skirmish the enemy at the same time making use of its superior speed and numbers, meaning the French could neither catch up with the Portuguese or bait them.

At one point, nearing the 24th of December, Admiral Grasse attempted a grand blockade by overlapping its ships over the commerce line before sailing southwards, as if to net the Portuguese, but the Frota Mobilizada merely responded by counter-bombarding French ports while escorting the ships in the coast gap left behind by the French. Similar strategic blunders continued to occur throughout early January, including an attempt to amphibiously invade Northern Portugal with assailants botched by Winter sea storms.

It was still, however, considered the darkest period of the war not for the French, but for the Portuguese, as there was a genuine widespread fear that the naval screening would fail, and French soldiers would be landing on northern beaches before long. The ports worked around the clock to support the logistical nightmare that was the screening, which ships repeatedly assailed the enemy, retreated, restored strength at the ports and came back to the task in a cyclical manner. There was hardly a day when the shipyards at Oporto and Viana do Castelo weren’t operating in repairs or replenishment, which contributed to an atmosphere of panicked labor throughout the country where the people could directly see the casualties and damage the screening was taken.

This knife-cutting atmosphere came to a climax on the 16th of January, when the HMS Miguel, a minor frigate that took part in the screening and took heavy combat damage as part of the ship rotation maneuver, shipwrecked at Vienna itself. After days and days of struggling through the waves to return to safe port, the vessel came within barely a mile from shore and the people of Viana were treated to the sight of the battered ship falling apart just before reaching safety, drowning many of its sailors and forcing the survivors to take the lifeboat ashore.

This event became iconic to the war, turning to life a fear many had in the mainland that their best efforts would be for naught. The scene of the ship barely failing to complete its route after harsh weeks of enduring storms and battles was witnessed by many Viana residents and workers, who had vigils on the Montedor Lighthouse[1] who sounded the alarm to the town whenever a ship from the screening was sighted and became a topic of pessimistic or romantic art in the late 1700s and early 1800s not to mention, later on, the birth of Realism.


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‘Queda do Arcanjo Miguel’ Painting Series
The circumstances surrounding the sinking of the ship were iconic to the Three Years War and immortalized in several paintings across separate art ages

The impact of this era went beyond paintings; the dawn of sea-set epic opera which after 1815 spawned musical works by composers like André da Silva Gomes, who had to send off his adoptive sons to war and created (ITTL) ‘Noite no Mar’ as a requiem to the battles with the French Navy, were based on the feelings of terror, anxiety and doom preceding the ongoing period of rise in political forces which were argued that had their roots not in the Napoleonic Wars, but in the Three-Year War. These works, which used combinations of string and drum harmonies to simulate the scale of sea battle escalation as well as the terror onshore and out in the sea, not to mention their ultimate importance to everyone’s lives, would later on impact the works of close-by artists like Fernando Sor in Barcelona, who composed some of his (ITTL) guitar plays detailing the terrors his compatriots endured in Zaragoza and other northeastern Spanish cities as a result of Napoleonic invasions.

The battle had to continue regardless of popular terrors, however, and so it did throughout January. Admiral de Grasse grew increasingly frustrated with his inability to deliver a decisive blow and discontentment with his performance began to grow amongst his captains; they were being endlessly stalled by a force of more numerous but smaller ships aided by bad weather while also being constantly threatened by British fleet searches for them. Both La Rochelle and Paris soon began to demand from De Grasse a decisive confrontation so, on 12th of January, he decided to sally out a grand sea offensive to overwhelm the pipsqueak fleet, ‘British threats be damned’.

This, however, proved to be the ultimate mistake; even if the French ships were being unexpectedly held back, they held the long-term advantage of firepower and sailor numbers, meaning that simply enduring the initial period of hardships would ultimately yield a window of opportunity in the latter winter months to safely overwhelm the Portuguese Navy. The political pressure hailing from inner France, at the time boiling with revolutionary movements and famine, pushed the offensive onward, however, into forcing de Grasse to try his luck in the current conditions.

The result was the Battle of Cantabria; on 21 January 1782, a powerful node of de Grasse’s fleet, comprising of eight battleships, sailed along the length of the northern Spanish coast and met, near Santander, the corresponding Portuguese force tasked with screening them. The Portuguese expected to engage the French as usual, hitting and running until the French assault became unsustainable and returned to La Rochelle. Headed by minor captains and rear-admirals, the force also was short on supply and farther away from home ports than the French themselves (the Bay of Biscay was geographically Franco-Spanish territory with little history of Portuguese naval war activities).

The French, however, under orders from de Grasse and fed up with the status quo of the overlapping ‘Battle of Biscay Bay’, fully engaged and gave pursuit to the Portuguese vessels, who had hoped to bluff the French into avoiding conflict. Led by the HMS César, the French force attempted to take advantage of prevailing winds in the middle of bad weather to push their heavier vessels over the lines of the lighter Portuguese ships.

In one of the most vicious naval slugfests of recent history, the Frota Mobilizada squadron, comprised of just 15 ships of third and fourth rate ships amounting to little over 300 cannons against 8 third and second-rate ships with an overwhelming 500 guns, had its long-range mobility advantage completely nullified by French initiative and daring maneuver, and thus forced to fight the French wooden hulks at medium to close range. Lasting over six hours, the affair was one of the ugliest scuffles in the history of the Portuguese Navy (and merely a footnote in French Naval history, which was ripe with battles with the Royal Navy and the Spanish), and strategically speaking the victory was all but assured to the French. Should they crush this force, a hole would be punctured through the Portuguese screening that would allow a narrow oversea offensive against Portugal itself even if the rest of the whole battle line was uncompromised. [2]
They were successful, but this was the extent of their success.

The factor that ultimately decided the development of this slugfest were the following:
  • The Portuguese lighter fleet had an architectural advantage stemming from Castro’s reforms, meaning that their smaller ships were abnormally powerful, and their heavier ships were abnormally mobile, with the main core advantage result being that of a greater nuclear flexibility of forces;
  • The Portuguese sailors, though less numerous, hailed from native and catholic Irish communities well-trained schools belonging to the Merchant Navy and motivated by the ‘Nightmare at Sea’ psychological factors. The French sailors, albeit also well trained, faced untraditional circumstances and a lack of personal stake in the offensive, meaning they were willing to take less risks and staying longer in the fight;
  • The French desperation was strong, but it could not overturn the undeniable conditions that turned the Battle of Biscay Bay into a bog in the first place, namely the winter weather and the poor tactical conditions themselves, so the smaller conflict at Cantabria was equally detrimental to their attack;
  • There was a complex unbalance in centralized leadership between the two sides. The Frota Mobilizada was better organized to fight along a greater length of naval line, decentralizing authority and skill in preparation for a naval screening instead of a concentrated battle. This meant that, in the event of being ambushed and disorganized, the Portuguese ships were better prepared to act out in the interest of the echelons at expense of the greater battle itself (accepting losing the possibility of decisive breakthroughs for long term battle sustainability), and this was the exact scenario they were facing at Cantabria, albeit at a different scale of authorities. The French, on the other hand, had been fighting to take advantage of their greater resources, investing in a breakthrough, meaning their captains were less prepared to act independently;
The result was a massively inefficient offensive. The French ships, packing more firepower, were unable to align their broadsides effectively despite the enclosed range and thus exchanged a far inferior fire rate than optimally possible. The French sailors, packing greater numbers, were unable to maneuver and fight their enemies on equal grounds, with the tighter Portuguese ships being more adapted to the sea conditions and their men more motivated to fight to the last drop of blood.

This growing catastrophe became obvious as soon as the French ships became both unable to keep the majority of the Portuguese ships locked in close-range, as their more mobile vessels kept escaping and sailing around them while their heavier ships were surviving direct bombardments before escaping, sometimes without central orders yet contributing to a collective goal. The longer the battle lasted, the clearer it was the French ships were losing organization and the harder the battle plan fell into disarray.

This did not mean the Portuguese were unscathed; they lost half their forces by the last stages of the battle while the French ships still fought on and many of their ammunitions were spent. The long term strategic advantage, however, was slipping from French hands because they were wasting far more resources and lives fighting a smaller force than it should ever be necessary.

This culminated into the unthinkable; at 21:52, the HMS César, a major element of the French squadron, blew up unexpectedly after sustaining hours and hours of gradual damage trying to bring down the enemy. This was a major blow to both the French forces and their morale; the initial plan predicted a swift, crushing blow over the ambushed Portuguese screening ships and, instead, the battle dragged out for hours, they faced unexpectedly motivated resistance and one of their warships was now completely destroyed.

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‘Catastrophe Cantabrique’
The prolonged fighting with the ‘Frota Mobilizada’ led to the destruction of the HMS César, a powerful French warship that should have not had so much trouble against Merchant Fleet volunteers

The destruction of the César was a major morale blow to the French Navy stationed at La Rochelle. While it was a single ship among twenty-five, the French offensive had maintained its motivation based mostly on the fact that their sheer weight had allowed them to endure the hornet tactics of the enemy and that the eventual victory was assured by the advantage of firepower. Therefore, should they just persist, their more powerful fleet would overwhelm the enemy’s numerical advantage and make it to Lisbon, so the French had the theoretical long-term advantage.

The loss of the first heavy ship to the tactics of prolonged, safely played low firepower interceptions by the Portuguese, therefore, was a clear sign that this was untrue and that the Frota Mobilizada held the advantage at long term even if their small elements were ambushed like in the Battle of Cantabria. This meant it didn’t matter how the French went at it with their current resources or how much they focused their movement; it was not possible to break through the current enemy fleet.

Moreover, following the destruction of the César, other French warships further north were also forced back to La Rochelle after heavy close-range fighting. While they were not sunk, they were exhausted and the British Fleet, which had loomed in the Channel all winter, took advantage of de Grasse’s missteps to tighten its blockade on the French mainland.

On 27 February 1782, French Foreign Minister Vergennes, at the time stationed in Madrid to negotiate the conditions of Spanish neutrality, offered the Spanish the securement of their Caribbean possessions, including Florida, so as to cease their plans to resume hostilities on Gibraltar and Portugal. This was pressured by their naval losses in the Bay of Biscay against the Portuguese Navy, which threatened to compromise the gains they obtained in North America, as well as by the economic situation of France itself; over the years preceding the war, Portugal had become an increasingly important importer of goods to French stability and the heads of state feared that continuing the war would break the fragile financial situation for good.

De Grasse’s defeat, however, was still heavily frowned on and the admiral had to file for martial court, where he successfully sued to be cleared of blame. With the fighting in Biscay however, Luso-French hostilities in the Atlantic were finished as a whole as well.

[1] iOTL The Montedor lighthouse was only constructed in 1910, but here the shipyard development in Viana spawned an earlier construction of the lighthouse in the late 1770s.

[2] When Napoleon came to power he would use the historical sea battle with the Portuguese as one of recent examples that would motivate Napoleon into believing it was possible to do the same in the Channe
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Note:
The Luso-French Maritime War was a significant war and major challenge for the Portuguese Empire. It was the first time the Portuguese were being tested by a European power after the fiasco of the 7 year war in which the Portuguese had to be bailed out by the British. The Portuguese Empire of 1782 was not the same country from 20 years earlier. This was a country that had re-built its navy and armed forces. Instituted major and complete overhaul of its naval and army officer and troop training and recruitment. While the Portuguese were not as powerful as the French it had one advantage on its side, that France was also fighting the British forces throughout the world and could not devote its full force on the Portuguese. But was the Portuguese rebuilding enough? Would the Portuguese navy and armed forces be ready to meet and defend the country? Those were the major questions not only on the minds of the people but the nobles, government and merchants. Questions/Comments

Note regarding posting of this section. The Luso-French Maritime War is over 40 pages and will be divided in approximately seven sections.

Note that iOTL the Portuguese were able to sit out this war. But growth of Portuguese Empire, the recent betrothal of British King's eldest daughter to the Portuguese king and the refusal of the Portuguese to bow down to the French threat meant it would be forced to fight .

So we now come to the conclusion of the war with France, what have the French learned? First when they got over the shock, they had to reasses the situation. They had just suffered repeated defeats and while they had been bested by continued British and now Portuguese navies the French decided there was no reason to continue with a war they had no chance of winning and if they continue it might weaken France even more.

Please return on May 03 as we post the 7th and final part in
The Three-Years War (1780 -1784)
- The Luso-French Maritime War (1780-1782).
 
On 27 February 1782, French Foreign Minister Vergennes, at the time stationed in Madrid to negotiate the conditions of Spanish neutrality, offered the Spanish the securement of their Caribbean possessions, including Florida, so as to cease their plans to resume hostilities on Gibraltar and Portugal. This was pressured by their naval losses in the Bay of Biscay against the Portuguese Navy, which threatened to compromise the gains they obtained in North America, as well as by the economic situation of France itself; over the years preceding the war, Portugal had become an increasingly important importer of goods to French stability and the heads of state feared that continuing the war would break the fragile financial situation for good.

De Grasse’s defeat, however, was still heavily frowned on and the admiral had to file for martial court, where he successfully sued to be cleared of blame. With the fighting in Biscay however, Luso-French hostilities in the Atlantic were finished as a whole as well.
So the French asked/convinces Spain to not attack Gibraltar and Portugal, did I understand correctly?
 

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So the French asked/convinces Spain to not attack Gibraltar and Portugal, did I understand correctly?
Yes, mostly because Paris wants the Portuguese Navy out of the war, or they would fully back this offensive.
The French at outset of war supported Spanish attack on British Gibraltar and Portuguese kings Diplomatic gamble showing that Spain would not have the resources to accomplish the siege of Gibraltar and wage war on Portugal worked.

Fast forward 2 years and Portuguese bold and stoic defense against the French had shown the futility of French position being beaten by a smaller opponent thus exposing the French navy to attacks by the powerful British navy. Thus the French government started thinking of peace treaty earlier than iotl due to its greater losses as result of having to also fight Portuguese.
 
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The Three-Years War (1780-1783) - The Luso-French Maritime War (1780-1782) (7 of 7)

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The Three-Years War (1780-1783) (cont.)

The Luso-French Maritime War (1780-1782) ( 7 of 7)

Ultimate Ceasefire

Simultaneously, the Portuguese sent a joint Luso-British naval force of 30 ships under the command of Admiral Pinto de Silva following de Grasse’s fallback to impose an informal blockade, placing themselves along the French coast as a warning against further hostilities but not actually attacking any French vessels.

In India, Admiral André Struffen, unharmed from the negotiations with Vice-Admiral Rebelo, went on to score significant naval victories against the British forces of Sir Edward Hughes, namely at the battles of Sadras, Providien, Negapatan and Cuddalore, on the Eastern Indian Ocean that allowed France to save their last bastion in the sub-continent, Pondicherry. The admiral had initially intended to crush the British forces first before returning to retake Mahé, but the losses sustained to secure their positions in India were so that it grinded their operations to a halt, as well as their collaboration with Tipu Sultan, resulting in another ceasefire.

Fighting from the French all throughout the world slowly came to a stop as the Americans secured their victories against the British and the French machine ran out of economic fuel. The result was that the British were unable to dislodge the French and the French were unable to continue their offensives, so conditions were met to bring the whole war to an end.

This included the Mediterranean Sea, where the French became unwilling to support Spanish claims on Gibraltar after a series of successful Anglo-Luso reliefs on the outpost. With no longer any major power challenging each other, British naval supremacy on the seas remained, Portuguese commerce continued to flow, Spanish Caribbean possessions were secured and enlarged and, finally, the French obtained about as much revenge for the Seven Years War as they could at the time. On 2nd of March, Foreign Minister Vergennes signed an official ceasefire with War & Foreign Affairs Minister João Castro de Linhares, ending this front of the war.

Unfortunately, the Three Years War would not end for Portugal. On the agreed Negotiations of Nantes, hostilities between Lisbon and Amsterdam would spark and the Second Luso-Dutch War would begin, continuing the sea conflicts well into 1783.


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The Luso-French Maritime War was a significant war and major challenge for the Portuguese Empire. It was the first time the Portuguese were being tested by a European power after the fiasco of the 7-year war in which the Portuguese had to be bailed out by the British. The Portuguese Empire of 1782 was not the same country from 20 years earlier. This was a country that had re-built its navy and armed forces. Instituted major and complete overhaul of its naval and army officer and troop training and recruitment. While the Portuguese were not as powerful as the French it had one advantage on its side, that France was also fighting the British forces throughout the world and could not devote its full force on the Portuguese. But was the Portuguese rebuilding enough? Would the Portuguese navy and armed forces be ready to meet and defend the country? Those were the major questions not only on the minds of the people but the nobles, government and merchants. Questions/Comments

Note regarding posting of this section. The Luso-French Maritime War is over 40 pages and will be divided in approximately seven sections.

Note that iOTL the Portuguese were able to sit out this war. But growth of Portuguese Empire, the recent betrothal of British King's eldest daughter to the Portuguese king and the refusal of the Portuguese to bow down to the French threat meant it would be forced to fight.

The French realizing that to continue fighting the Portuguese would be futile and with the stronger British Navy still in play any victory against the "puny" Portuguese would leave their navy susceptible to be destroyed by the British. So, with war still raging on in North America and high seas against Britain the French notified the Portuguese that they wishes a cease fire. The Portuguese wanting nothing more eagerly accepted. In Lisbon hope that peace was afoot they gladly participated in the Nantes Negotiations.

I know that this section is smaller than normal sections, but it was done so I can post the next section today the
Nantes Negotiations (1782)
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The Three-Years War (1780-1783) - The Nantes Negotiations (1782)

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The Three-Years War (1780-1783) (cont.)

The Nantes Negotiations (1782)

We must prevent the British from buying peace instead of making it, lest we be forever eclipsed from world matters.
-French Foreign Minister Vergennes to his allied counterparts

By March 1782, all the powers involved in the Anglo-French War, which included those of the American Revolutionary War, the Fourth Anglo-Dutch War and the Three-Years War, were either growing spent, were checkmated or had been outright defeated in the grand global conflict. While it was true that the British were losing ground in America to the Franco-Spanish-American rebellion, Spain had been coerced in all other theaters to a ceasefire and France had agreed with Portugal to end hostilities as well, leaving the only major fighting to occur between the powers in the area of the small triangulation of Paris, London and Amsterdam. At Madrid the Spanish King agreed to begin naming his terms for the future treaty of Paris while at Amsterdam, increasingly exhausted from the internal fighting between the Orangists and the Patriots and regretting their involvement in the American Revolution, the Dutch also began preparing for cutting losses.

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Even though the British refused to admit defeat, the shrinking of the active fighting was allowing most other powers to begin preparations for negotiations

With the Seven-Years War to look back on, the Dutch, French, Americans, Spaniards and even the Portuguese saw a signing of peace treaty in 1782 at their favor, as it would prevent the superior British navy from seizing further territory or upset the scales against the Thirteen Colonies again, thus preventing a massive territorial gain akin to the British conquest of Canada. French Foreign Minister Vergennes was the capital figure of this diplomatic effort as well as the author of the North American peace proposal most countries planned to support, the new 1782 Treaty of Paris, which would grant the United States independence but confine their western border to the Ohio River.

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French Foreign Minister Vergennes & The Ohio River Proposal
This Minister and his proposal for North American borders provided the most likely chance for peace in the short term

The American revolutionaries weren’t thrilled with this proposal; one of the catalysts to their revolt had been the demarcation of the Northwestern Territories as part of British Canada and this proposal saw through that they would get their independence recognized but would lose all claims to this land for good. The counterproposal, however, was instead to make these territories into a great native American state to act as buffer between the United States and Spanish Louisiana. Moreover the lack of actual settling of Americans into these lands made skepticism grow among the non-interested parties as well as contestation from the Spanish towards American claims to this area.

Patriot John Jay believed he could get a better offer by negotiating the terms with the British directly, cutting off Spanish and French interests and paving the path to turning America into a valuable trade partner for the British Empire.[1] He was impeded, however, by the sheer urgency from the other powers to reach an accord by 1782, the main reason being the damage caused to the French fleet by the Portuguese Mobilized Fleet and Spain’s pull off from the Great Siege of Gibraltar thanks to Joseph II’s diplomatic pressuring, which led to Paris herself approaching London with an early peace off instead of John Jay.

Thus began the ‘Nantes Negotiations’, named so after the Brittany city where the involved powers met to discuss a predetermined peace offer. Allied to the Spanish and Portuguese Foreign Ministers in this matter, the French were able to prevent the Patriots from sweeping their desired outcome and loss cut from their hands and prevented Great Britain from signing separate peace treaties, instead inciting London to agree to an all-out end to the war.

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The Nantes Negotiations
The Prime Ministers of at least five great nations of the time met to agree on a beneficial end to the massive conflict caused between them

The circumstances leading to the success of this reunion were not amicable; most powers at the table with the exception of Portugal and Holland felt their hand force, with the Spanish frustrated by their inability to siege Gibraltar, the British estranged from the Americans by allied reminders that their loyalists would not be compensated by the Patriots and the French embittered by the loss of the war in general and the near-total destruction of French India. These three greater powers, however, had appealing counterweights to negotiating peace while the three lesser powers (the US, Holland and Portugal) merely wished to end the war as a form of damage control before the little gains they obtained were annihilated.

Represented by John Nay, the Patriots showed willing to sign a peace treaty so long as their claims to the Northwestern Territories were entertained. Represented by Cipriano Ribeiro Freire, however, Portugal demanded that the US were not rewarded for starting the war that pulled his nation to conflict to begin with, a point with which the Dutch sympathized on as their own losses began piling up. Secretary Cipriano had direct instructions from King Joseph II to seek the consolidation of Portugal’s gains in India, something he was convinced would be a fair claim as it meant Portugal would simply gain a few money reparations and the Indian port of Mahé that Vice-Admiral Rebelo captured. Finally Holland sought to end the war without losing further colonies to the British.

The trio of main powers, however, wished to defend none of this; the Spanish and French had no desire to let America be a British trade ally, Britain wished to seize a LOT of the Dutch colonies and while the Portuguese claim to Mahé was taken seriously, it was just as seriously contested by the French and none other than the Dutch party, who both believed this to be an unacceptable transition as it would put most of Western Indian shore under Portuguese control. Citing the new treaty of Satari, Cipriano claimed that control over said commercial area was already factually in Lisbon’s hands, so much that the first year of commercial profits totaled between Damão and Diu in the Gulf of Cambay alone was starting to touch the feet of British Surat itself, and that the French were not able to enforce their claims over Mahé anymore. Portugal also argued that they were the best hope for European-led stability in said region as well as the best hope Britain’s rivals had to compete with the British East India Company.

Amsterdam, however, voiced an even stronger objection to this, claiming that Portuguese naval dominion through the entire western Indian shore would create an open road for Lisbon to attack Dutch possessions, particularly Dutch Ceylon and perhaps Dutch Indonesia in the long run. The situation against the British alone was already so dire that the VOC had requested for the first time in history help from the Dutch Fleet itself and two months earlier the British had even captured Trincomalee, the finest port they had on the island. Moreover, Dutch South Africa was spared capture only by intervention from Admiral Struffen himself a year earlier, who was on his way to fight the Portuguese in India.

All I want is for our gains to be secured. They were small, and surely the other nations will see them reasonable.
-King Joseph II’s naïve objectives told to Secretary Cipriano

Negotiations continued for months until, in August, news arrived of Struffen not only liberating Trincomalee but also defeating Hughes in naval battle before reinforcing the port of Pondicherry, at the time under siege.[2] This turn of events strengthened the Franco-Dutch situation in India and confirmations were made that a ceasefire had been agreed to between the French and the Portuguese, effectively surrendering Mahé.

Considering the previous situation in which the French stood to lose *all* of their possessions, the Portuguese capture of Mahé sort of came as a relief as it seemed it allowed Struffen to save Ceylon and Pondicherry from the British. London was also stunned at the first sound defeat suffered. Moreover, incoming news suggested the situation threatened to spill over to Sumatra, where the British and the Dutch were also fighting.

All of a sudden, the French seemed to be capable of endangering the British triumph. London accused Lisbon of conspiring against their India Company, to which Cipriano had to defend the argument that the Goa colony merely acted in self-preservation. Tensions and urgency to find peace increased throughout the summer and London began fearing that the United States would not be the only colony they would lose, should Struffen’s unexpected string of successes continue. The British representative David Hartley suggested Portugal to reinforce their naval power in exchange for siding with their claim of Mahé and securing monetary gains….

… to which the Dutch threatened to include Portugal as an enemy in the Anglo-Dutch War should they accept.

On 31st of August King Joseph II received the news from Cipriano that Portugal was presented with the ultimatum by the Dutch; either they signed a humble peace treaty surrendering the open path towards Dutch colonies in India, or Portugal would continue to be at war, this time with the naval power that first ruined it. Heartbroken, lambasted by the Queen for his naiveté and under advice from his Navy, Armament and War Ministries, King Joseph II ordered the secretary and his diplomats to return from Nantes after declaring war on Holland.


[1] iOTL the Americans did bypass the French and negotiated directly with the British and became one of Britain’s major trading partner and major part of the investment in America came from Britain.

[2] iOTL Struffen fought Hughes to a standstill and was unable to gain more significant victories.



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The Portuguese had just agreed to a cease fire with the French and having secured Mahé in India the Portuguese felt with their string of victories that Mahé should be Portuguese. With that attitude and in hindsight naïve the Portuguese were not prepared for the distrust that existed in Europe. Britain upset at its only ally helping bring French navy to the brink had instead chosen to stop. While neither Dutch who were very suspicious of Portugal and its many gains while allied with the biggest threat to its empire the British were not about to let the Portuguese strengthen its position and put its empire in India and elsewhere in jeopardy. Meanwhile the question of the soon to be independent for BNA colonies was on everyone's minds. There were no friends that the USA had, no country was about to let the USA be any stronger and larger than necessary. All countries viewed its independence with both suspicion and distrust. They had their own interests to think of and felt that colonists were a danger to them. Questions/Comments

So the Portuguese went from being in high spirits at the start the negotiations to finding themselves fighting an old adversary, the Dutch. One empire on the upward swing while another in the downward swing. Could the Dutch curtail Portuguese wings and limit its growth like it had almost 150 years or would the Portuguese finally put the ghost of its defeat to bed and turn a new chapter in its dealing with the Dutch?


Please return on May17 as we post the 1st part in The Three-Years War (1780 -1784) -The Second Luso-Dutch War (1782-1783).
 

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is the american peace treaty same as otl?
Ah yes I can see with the Nantes negotiations we could ask that. First Nantes negotiations was highlighted because the Portuguese and several other players wanted hostilities to end, but as seen for the Portuguese it led to the inevitable war against the Dutch.

The other topic and original POD of the war, the patriot revolt against England was going iotl but the attitudes from European countries towards them were historical.

Note: we do cover the ARW in detail later after Dutch war.

So back to your question are the patriots able to win and achieve independence yes..... the trick will be in the negotiations though.

FYI nothing the Portuguese have done has any substantial impact on the outcome of the war in North America. Portugal is not present in that theatre.

After the ARW we get to the peace treaty of 1783 which is its own convoluted event.
 
Ohhh I like this political drama. In some ways, it's even more thrilling than all the awesome sea battles you wrote previously. Poor Portugal just wants to be left alone with their small gains, but the Dutch just can't let their old enemies get away with anything.

The Netherlands and Portugal have an old rivalry with each other - kinda like the English and French. The Dutch are the bad guys in this TL and I'm sure Portugal will prevail somehow, but a funny thought came to me. Somewhere, in another universe, there's a Canadian author called Batavi (Ancient dutch tribe near Roman Gaul) that writes Dutch wank TL's on AH.com and the reverse is currently happening in their pre-1900 TL lol
 

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Ohhh I like this political drama. In some ways, it's even more thrilling than all the awesome sea battles you wrote previously. Poor Portugal just wants to be left alone with their small gains, but the Dutch just can't let their old enemies get away with anything.

The Netherlands and Portugal have an old rivalry with each other - kinda like the English and French. The Dutch are the bad guys in this TL and I'm sure Portugal will prevail somehow, but a funny thought came to me. Somewhere, in another universe, there's a Canadian author called Batavi (Ancient dutch tribe near Roman Gaul) that writes Dutch wank TL's on AH.com and the reverse is currently happening in their pre-1900 TL lol
Yes like in real life, political intrigue can count as much as battle victories. When we look at peace treaties over the years some countries seemed over the years to have a horseshoe up their asses. It seems that there was much consideration in the balance of power outcomes when negotiations were taking place as the military situation. When political intrigue is added It does add some level of reality to the TL which is one of the objectives we had when we re-started the TL.

As for the rivalry yes it was Inevitable l, we have one empire growing economically and expanding while one is stagnant and due to geography right smack middle of the major powers attacking each other using its territory as stomping ground.

As for the other writer in another universe, only thing I can state is that he is writing fantasy novel. The British were Dutch main rival not the Portuguese and any attack against the Portuguese would of involved Portugal calling on the British for assistance. Nothing else needs be said.
 
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Great update, that was a very feasible transition from an almost secured peace to a Dutch-Portuguese war. Is the previous accord with the French and the general parties involved in the negotiations conclusive? IE Spain, Britain, France, etc. leaving warfare behind for the moment while the remaining conflict becomes a strictly Portuguese-Dutch affair where negotiations will be done strictly between the two powers involved? Or is there potential for another mediation occurring that sees other powers trying to get at pieces of the Dutch Empire once Portugal wins? ( ;) )
 
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