Plausible Carthage Wank?

Alright so, update...

In my writings, I have it so that Hannibal's sons who I've decided to call Abdeshmun and Bodeshmun will end up spending time in Greece that makes them appreciate Greek Theatre, Science, Math, and many aspects of Greek culture. This leads to a semi-hellenization of Carthage with a nice Punic twist.

I also have them continue to pursue their father's conquests in Spain and Mauretania. This means that Carthage will move into southern France and the area of modern day Western Sahara. Sound good/plausible?
 
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Also, I've been talking with some friends about this and how plausible is it for Carthaginians to establish cities/colonies all around Africa and perhaps the British Isles?
 
Time to revive this thread. I've been working (albeit slowly) on the written aspect of this timeline, and I've gotten this far. I would also like to make note that this first post is essentially to provide the essential background needed for the POD’s of the Second Punic War. Later posts will be far more indepth and informative as it takes ancient history in an entirely new direction.

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218 BC - Hannibal Barca departs from Carthago Nova late in the Spring, fighting his way through the tribes of northern Spain. Hannibal then continues over the Pyrenees and into southern Gaul until he reaches the foothills of the Alps and narrowly avoids a Roman Army dispatched to meet him near Massalia.

- Messengers from the Insubres and Boii offer to guide the Carthaginians over and through the Alps in order to help them with their revolt against Rome. It is a long and tiring journey, full of unique challenges and the loss of many men but after several weeks, he found that he and his army had succeeded and were now looking at the fertile plains and valleys of Italy.

- In December, Hannibal meets the Roman army led by the consul Tiberius Sempronius Longus at the River Trebia. Publius Cornelius Scipio (Scipio Africanus), the son of Publius Scipio, is killed in the Battle of Trebia.

- Hannibal Barca of Carthage continues his long march south to Rome while still trying to persuade the cities under Roman influence to come to his cause. Hannibal also sends back most prisoners he takes with the order to spread the word that Carthage does not seek to conquer, but merely to liberate.

217 BC - It’s June, and Hannibal is preparing to meet yet another Roman army (this time under consul Gaius Flaminius) at Lake Trasimene. Gaius is rash like Tiberius and has his army devastated by Hannibal’s cunning and brilliant tactics once again. In less than three hours, the entire Roman army had been annihilated.

- News of the defeat at Trasimene caused a panic in Rome. In their panic, the Senate of Rome appoints Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus as Dictator of the Republic. He promptly adopts the "Fabian Strategy".

216 BC - Unhappy that Fabius’ tactics were not leading to a quick end to the war, The Roman populace derides him and elect Gaius Terentius Varro and Lucius Aemilius Paullus as consuls. These two pursued a much more aggressive war strategy and sought to confront Hannibal.

- Later that spring, Hannibal seized a large Roman supply depot at Cannae. By doing this, he had put himself directly between the Romans and a crucial supply source. This forces Rome to raise a fantastically enormous army, and Lucius Aemilius Paullus and Gaius Terentius Varro resolve to confront Hannibal and march south to Cannae.

- Hannibal Barca defeats the numerically superior Roman army that is commanded by Lucius Aemilius Paullus and Gaius Terentius Varro at the Battle of Cannae. This utterly destroys the Romans as a fighting force.

- Word reaches Rome about the utter defeat at Cannae, and Romans once again turn to Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus for guidance. He does his best to comfort the Romans and attempts to instill confidence in the people.

- The cities of Capua, Tarentum and several other city states and the provinces of Arpi, Salapia, Herdonia and Uzentum defect from the Republic and pledge allegiance to Hannibal. This also persuades the Greek city states in Sicily to revolt against Roman political control and Philip V of Macedon pledges his support to Hannibal. Hannibal promises to establish and politically back any city-states and new Hellenistic republics on the condition they provide his army with a safe base of operations, troops and any other resources he may need. Tarentum, Capua, and the rest of the southern provinces comply bolstering his army to an impressive size and giving him the ability to attack Rome itself.

- With Hannibal gaining allies and Rome losing territory and morale, Rome begins to panic and despair once more. Instead of choosing to ponder the situation further, Hannibal chooses to march on Rome with his newfound allies, resources and personnel. He hopes that it was also prevent the Romans from regrouping and posing a major threat to him.

- Hearing that Hannibal was victorious against Rome in Cannae and was preparing to march on Rome itself and choosing to take his chances, Philip V of Macedon chooses to take his chances with the possibility of Roman Quinqueremes and continues to sail on to Apollonia with his army. He soon begins his conquest of much of Illyria.

215 BC - By mid winter, Hannibal has reached the Gates of Rome, and immediately lays siege to the city. Many Romans begin to fear for their lives seeing that Hannibal Barca, the "Terror of Rome" sits right outside their very walls.

- Macedon and Carthage conclude in the summer after lengthy discussion that they would be allied in their fight against Rome, agreeing to go to the peace table simultaneously should the opportunity arise.

- Philip V of Macedon, while occupied with fighting the Illyrians in Greece, manages to establish a land link to the Adriatic coast and with the help of the Carthaginian Fleet, sends Hannibal 2000 Macedonian soldiers which land at Tarentum.

- After much debate in the Carthaginian Senate between Hanno II the Great (who didn’t want to send Hannibal reinforcements) and Giscon the Bold (who felt that Carthage should throw all her support behind Hannibal), Carthage feels it is time to strike and send Hannibal the needed supplies, reinforcements and siege engines in order to ease Hannibal of his war of attrition against Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus.

- Upon hearing of his expected reinforcements, Hannibal sends Carthalo to offer the Romans one last chance for peace or face their destruction, while simultaneously sending a letter of his intentions to Philip V who is still fighting in Illyria with moderate success.

- Hannibal, having secured the countryside with the help of his Hellenic allies, tries to coerce Rome to capitulate and surrender to Carthaginian terms. Dictator of Rome, Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus, famously proclaims: "the Children of Romulus would rather die by standing than live by kneeling".

- In early spring, Hannibal and his armies finally begin their assault on Rome. Using his fresh siege engines sailed over to him from Carthage, Hannibal orders his troops to target the city’s infrastructure first; having them try their best to hit the water system and the army barracks. Hannibal knows that he cannot win by fighting the disciplined Roman ranks in their own city. So he yet again devises a cunning plan.

Under the cover of darkness and over several nights, Hannibal has his men move the tents from their camp in the surrounding forest into plain sight of the Roman sentries on the wall convincing the Romans that he has become so arrogant as to move his camp right to the city gates. In all reality, Hannibal had only moved the tents, but his army still lay hidden and out of sight. Hannibal was hoping and expecting that the Romans would see this as too good of an opportunity to pass up and would attack at night, while most of his army slept.

Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus was wary of heading into what he rightly suspected was a Carthaginian ruse, but his young and rash Master of the Horse, Gaius Junius Brutus wanted to seize the opportunity of what he thought was a sure-fire victory and disobeying the orders of Fabius, marched what remained of the Roman garrison outside of its walls and directly at the camp. Hannibal had some of his scouting parties skirmish with the Roman and retreat toward the camp. Taking the bait, Brutus pursues them getting further from the protective walls of Rome. Hannibal then gives the signal (a horn) for the rest of his army to attack, which ends up tearing at their flanks and encircling the Romans and slaughtering them just like at Cannae.

This battle left hardly anyone alive to defend Rome. Hannibal gives the signal to attack the city and nearly destroys the city, much of it being burned. Hannibal presides over the burning of the Roman Senate Building personally. Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus is killed defending the city, but enabled the escape of several thousand Romans into the surrounding countryside. Seeing the Roman Republic crumble before his eyes, Hannibal merely said: "I have fulfilled my oath".

214 BC - While the few remaining cities loyal to Rome continue to harass Hannibal’s troops in Italy, a Roman army had also been dispatched to Hispania in an attempt to cut-off the Carthaginians and redirect their attention. Due to the lengthy route and attacks by Gauls, Celts and a few skirmishes with Carthaginians, they do not reach their destination in Spain for nearly two years.

211 BC - Publius Scipio (Scipio's father) and Gnaeus Cornelius Scipio Calvus are killed in the Battle of the Upper Baetis against Hasdrubal Barca in Spain. The Celtiberians, convinced by Hasdrubal to desert the Romans, left the Romans severely undermanned and surprised, which made it easy for Hasdrubal to destroy their armies. Roman Generals subsequently are afraid to fight in Hispania, seeing it as a death sentence for any any brave or foolish enough to challenge the Carthaginians in Spain.

210 BC - Gaius Laelius, unaware of Rome’s destruction, attempts to lead the Roman attack on Hispania. They land and capture Carthago Nova. He finds it hard to control his troops from plundering, which only alienates the Romans from the native Celtiberians. Without allies, reinforcements or a proper safe haven, the Roman army is decisively defeated at the Battle of the Ebro by Hasdrubal and Mago Barca.

- Hannibal and a few more reinforcements from Africa and the arrival of the Numidian Masinissa's army in northern Italy enable the Carthaginians to continue to lay waste to the Roman countryside. Roman morale crumbles under the occupation and Roman cities begin to defect left, right and centre in exchange for leniency and being spared the wrath of the Carthaginian armies. The few cities that had remained fiercely loyal to the Republic were so disheartened that Carthaginian scouts had reported seeing ships being filled to the brim and sailing for Greece.

209 BC - In complete disarray and utterly demoralized, the remaining Roman Legions that had been camping and moving throughout Italy harassing the Carthaginian armies finally surrender to Hannibal and what remained of the Roman Republic melts away virtually overnight. Hannibal and his armies continue to systematically disassemble the Roman system while establishing Hellenistic republics in southern Italy loyal to Hannibal and Carthage as he had promised them he would.

201 BC - Hannibal and his armies leave Italy as victors of the Second Punic War. They leave behind them a shattered Roman Republic. In the north, the Gauls have made some gains, and the Ligurians have secured themselves a niche along the coast and in the mountains. Carthage directly added all of Italy south of the Neto River to their control while splitting up the rest of southern Italy with the Lucanian Republic and Tarentine Republic; both of which were mainly Greek. They also recognized the independence of the city state of Capua. In the northeast, Carthage was able to establish the Republic of Picentis which was allied to the Boii. The rest of the Italian peninsula was made up of squabbling, independent Roman city states. Carthage also managed to walk away with most of Sicily except for the Greek city state of Syracuse, and all of Sardinia and Corsica and most of the islands in the Tyrrhenian Sea.

 
200 BC - Upon his return to Carthage following the end of the Second Punic War, Hannibal is appointed as Suffete and tries to enact many reforms that are very unpopular with the Council of 30 Nobles and the Hundred and Four. In particular, they greatly displease Hanno II the Great who opposed sending Hannibal the reinforcements he had requested during the war. Hanno II felt that by sacking and burning Rome, they had left a power vacuum that Carthage did not have the power to fill and left room for the Greeks and other Hellenistic cultures to expand freely throughout the eastern Mediterranean. Hannibal on the other hand, believed that he had secured Carthage’s longevity and had brought her to be on good terms with Philip V of Macedon and Antiochus III of the Seleucid Empire.

Hannibal continues to push for reform and countering the corrupt oligarchy. The oligarchy, always jealous fo him, attempt to charge Hannibal with having betrayed the interests of his country while in Italy by not taking Rome sooner. Hannibal counters their charging by forcing them to remember that it was Hanno II and his supporters that tried to prevent the reinforcements Hannibal needed from reaching Italy, thereby preventing Hannibal from marching on Rome sooner. Hannibal gets away with this blatant accusation due to the support he has amongst the citizens and also uses their support to reform the Hundred and Four so that their membership is chosen by direct election instead of co-option and changes the term from life to a year with a term limit of two years.

Hannibal also uses his support to end the blood sacrifice of their religion, stating that Baal had told him in a dream that more than enough blood has been spilled to satisfy the gods and that it is because of this that the Carthaginians won the Second Punic War.

197 BC - Hanno II and his supporters, fed up with Hannibal’s actions, start a smear campaign attempting to limit Hannibal’s power and turn to such extremes that Hiempsal of the Hundred and Four publicly called for Hannibal’s arrest as a traitor to the Republic. These events caused the upper ruling class to be divided as to who to support, which brought the Republic to a near standstill.

Hannibal continues to fight Hanno II and his friends in the Councils until one night when Hannibal is alerted to a possible assassination attempt, he and his family flee to Lilybaeum on the southern part of Sicily. When he is followed and a second assassination attempt is uncovered, Hannibal flees to Tarentum seeking refuge and is welcomed with open arms by Phoibos of Tarentum. While there, Hannibal prepares to raise an army to march against Hanno II and the corrupt oligarchy. News of this reaches Carthage where Hanno II persuades the Council of 30 Nobles and the Hundred and Four to allocate funds to raise an army to counter Hannibal.

The Carthaginians manage to raise a moderate army out of Numidian, Libyan and Mauretanian mercenaries while Hannibal is able to rely on the Greeks in southern Italy, the Boii in northern Italy and the Iberians in Spain. Hannibal also sends a diplomat to Philip V of Macedon to try and convince him to interfere on Hannibal’s side by sending him a much needed fleet to augment those of the Tarentines and Lucanians.

Hannibal realizes that even though he has a fleet to work with, it can’t stand toe to toe with the Carthaginian fleet. The most he can expect to accomplish is to terrorize the coast and blockade as many ports as possible. He also knows that his main strength lies in Spain and plans to do what his father did and march his army across from Spain into Africa. That summer, Hannibal is reunited with his brothers Mago and Hasdrubal and entrusts the guardianship of Sicily and Spain to them respectively. Hannibal takes his army of Greeks, Celts and Iberians and heads for the Pillars of Hercules.

Carthage, knowing the prowess of their fleet, sail it to Sicily and Hannibal’s allies in Italy attempting to destroy their fleets and cut off their trade with other nations, meeting that goal with a fair amount of success. Carthage however, is oblivious to Hannibal’s movements toward Mauretania. At the start of winter, Philip V of Macedon chooses to send Hannibal a very small fleet that Hannibal himself claims is "nothing more than rafts with men on them". Nonetheless, this does not slow Hannibal’s unopposed march south towards the Pillars of Hercules.

Hannibal reaches the southern tip of Spain looking across to Mauretania and sends his diplomats to negotiate their free passage in exchange for copious amounts of silver and gold. Hannibal is well-received and makes good on his offer. He also convinces the Mauretanians to come to his side rather than the side of the corrupt oligarchy.

News of the loss of their Mauretanian mercenaries and the word that Hannibal was now marching east on Carthage itself stirred up a panic within the Council of 30 Nobles. Hanno II proposed asking the Latin city states and Egyptians for military aid in order to better counter Hannibal. The Latin cities are more than happy to comply with Hanno II’s request and Egypt agrees on the condition that Carthage help Egypt in the near future since Egypt was being threatened by the Seleucid Empire and Macedon who had just formed an alliance. Hanno II also manages to bring over the Greek City State of Massilia(Marseille) to the side of the Carthaginian Republic. Feeling that they are now secure enough, Carthage sends an army under Theages Carales to meet Hannibal at Cartenna.

196 BC - Hannibal, alerted to Carthage’s intentions, makes camp near Cartenna and awaits Theages’ army. Hannibal hides most of his army in the surrounding hills and prepares to use the same tactic he used at Lake Trasimene years ago against the Romans. Theages falls for the trap and is nearly pushed into the sea, but manages to escape with a few thousand men and limps back to Carthage. Hearing of the defeat, the Council of 30 Nobles and Hundred and Four raise yet another army mostly comprised of Numidians and sends them to meet Hannibal but once they met before the battle, the leader of the army, Bisaltes, defected to Hannibal’s side, much to Hannibal’s surprisee. Bisaltes was a relative of Maharbal, who was one of Hannibal’s commanders in the Second Punic War.

Following this easy victory, nearly all Carthaginian cities west of Carthage pledged their support to Hannibal enabling him to march virtually unopposed to Carthage. Hanno II and the upper class pleaded with their neighbours for more troops but only found an ally in Massinissa of Numidia who along with some Latin Legions and a small Egyptian army were all that stood between Hannibal and Carthage itself.

The closer Hannibal got to Carthage, the more persistent and violent the riots got within the city walls. There were those who called for Hannibal’s head for attacking Carthaginians and Carthage itself, while there were those who believed that it was the corruption in the upper levels of their government that was the problem and still saw Hannibal as the Hero of Carthage. Some even called for the rounding up of the Council of 30 Nobles and Hundred and Four as appeasement to Hannibal in return for being spared. Nevertheless, Hannibal prepared to do battle against Carthage in the fields surrounding the city.

That autumn, Hannibal feels he is secure enough to attack Carthage, where he finds a massive army standing before him, full of Latins, Egyptians, Numidians and Libyans and war elephants. Hannibal knows that he is to be wary of the speed and danger of Egyptian chariots and is also wary of their slingers, which are nearly as good as his own Balearic slingers. Hannibal also knows that he is facing a cavalry force equal to his own and a stronger infantry backed up by formerly Roman Legionnaires. He also knows his meagre elephant force cannot stand up to that of the Carthaginians. Hannibal formulates a strategy where he wants his Numidian cavalry to encircle the Egyptian chariots to limit their movement and cut them down. He puts his best spear men on his flanks to guard against any possible cavalry charges and puts his strongest Iberians as the bulk of his front line. Hannibal’s goal is to try and break up the infantry to leave them at the mercy of his cavalry.

Once the Battle of Carthage begins, the Egyptians immediately send out their chariots to face Hannibal who responds in kind with his Numidian Cavalry who promptly manage to limit the movement of the chariots by encircling them and cut them down to size. Seeing the chariots in trouble, the Carthaginian Commander, Bomilcar the Honest sends one of his cavalry units to help the Egyptians but are met by another wing of Hannibal’s cavalry. By this point, both sides had started to wear each other down with their slingers and Bomilcar sent in his elephants in an attempt to crush Hannibal’s infantry. Instead, Hannibal ordered his cavalry to blow loud horns to terrify the beasts and redirected them with careful positioning back towards Bomilcar’s line. This strategy worked which then allowed Hannibal to send in his own elephants which completely massacred most of the Carthaginian line and what was left was promptly dealt with by Hannibal’s Iberian infantry. Hannibal had won the Battle of Carthage.Watching from the city gates, were Hanno II and his supporters who, witnessing the defeat, hastily boarded a ship with their families and sailed to Sicily just as Hannibal was walking through the Gates of Carthage in victory.

194 BC - The massive citizen support for Hannibal enables him to subdue and marginalise the Council of 30 Nobles and the Hundred and Four to the point that in the Spring of 194 BC, Giscon the Bold of the Council of 30 Nobles places a crown made of the finest precious metals and jewels of Carthaginian holdings upon Hannibal Barca’s head and proclaims him King of a reestablished Carthaginian Empire.

Hannibal makes a public appearance and promises the Carthaginians a new age of glory, wealth and greatness. The first of his many reforms is to bring the Senate back to a more prominent position in society. He also brings in an Equal Citizenship Act of sorts that essentially stated that all people living in Carthaginian lands and served in the army or navy were to be considered citizens and held all privileges and rights associated with it. As an added bonus, immediate family members who were not capable of serving in the army were to be granted citizenship as well. This now meant that Carthaginians, Numidians, Iberians, Libyans, Celts and Greeks were all equal under the law. Hannibal did this because he did not want a repeat of the Mercenary War or to have his armies always go the way of the highest bidder.

191 BC - It is three years into the rule of Hannibal Barca and he and his family continue to reform Carthage and put down revolts led by Hannibal’s opponents who seek the return of the Republic. While he fights mercenaries in the desert, Hannibal begins to establish a new military system of creating a permanent standing army that is directly trained and is considered Carthaginian instead of merely being a force for hire. He also orders his generals to train the troops to recognize and take advantage of each others short-comings and strengths.

Hannibal’s wife, Imilce, gives birth to Abdeshmun and Bodeshmun Barca.

For their impudence and support of Carthage just a few years earlier, Hannibal begins an invasion of Numidia against Massinissa, which proves to be very easy for him and his generals. By the year’s end, Carthage had annexed all of Numidia and was making preparations to secure Mauretania and Libya along with continuing to expand in the Iberian Peninsula.

Just as Hannibal and his generals prepared for yet more war, Giscon the Bold receives a message from the Tarentines warning them that a man known as Gaius Tarquinius Maximus has begun to reunite several Latin cities into a small but formidable alliance.
 
All good. Although I think should point out that chariots were virtually outmoded as an engine of war throughout the Mediterraean world in the Third Century BCE. And Egypt was ruled by the Hellenistic Ptolemy Dynasty, whom would have employed soldiers drawn mostly from Hellenic, Judean, Galatian, Anatolian and Thracian settlers and mercs. Even the Gauls would have had the saddle by this time. The last chariot warriors were all the way in Britian.
 
All good. Although I think should point out that chariots were virtually outmoded as an engine of war throughout the Mediterraean world in the Third Century BCE. And Egypt was ruled by the Hellenistic Ptolemy Dynasty, whom would have employed soldiers drawn mostly from Hellenic, Judean, Galatian, Anatolian and Thracian settlers and mercs. Even the Gauls would have had the saddle by this time. The last chariot warriors were all the way in Britian.

Ah, I see. I shall adjust accordingly. I knew Egypt was under Hellenistic rule at this point but I was under the impression that they still used chariots to some degree.
 

Nikephoros

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Ah, I see. I shall adjust accordingly. I knew Egypt was under Hellenistic rule at this point but I was under the impression that they still used chariots to some degree.

Do you play Rome Total War?

If so, download Europa Barbarorum. You'll learn a lot about Hellenistic and "Barbarian" armies.
 
Do you play Rome Total War?

If so, download Europa Barbarorum. You'll learn a lot about Hellenistic and "Barbarian" armies.

I do play that game, but with the Total Realism mod which I'm loving. Which reminds me, an update for this TL is on its way. I've just been busy with work and my band.
 
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