Of lost monkeys and broken vehicles

Greeks in the auxiliary police force of Cyprus...that is an uno reverse cart..of course with the needs of the war any political considerations would be left out
Next you'll tell me I have a sense of irony... but needs must. If Britain was willing to arm and support Communist guerrilla units for the needs of the war, getting Greek-Cypriot policemen or Jewish combat formations is small potatoes by comparison.
With a fleet so big, heavy and specially including carriers this smell more like Sicilia open waters than Aegean constrained ones.
Then landing 5 divisions DOES require a huge fleet...
In late1942 (between 1st and 2nd Alamein), some British "commando-type" groups in Egypt staged a wave of raids on Axis rear areas in Libya. (The LRDG was not involved except for transportation.) The raids all failed, some quite badly.

A year later, Major Vladimir "Popski" Peniakoff was scouting in SE Italy ahead of the main Allied forces, and making contact with Italian forces who were now supposed to cooperate with the Allies (which they did with what Popski considered unseemly eagerness). One evening he dined with the staff of an Italian HQ, one of whom had been in intelligence in North Africa. He said the Italians had known all about the raids, and recited from memory the order of battle for the raiding forces.
The Italians had multiple issues during the war. OTOH when they were good, they were world class...
Will the S.A.S. be making an aperiance?
Possibly. Come to think of it with the war in North Africa going better for the Allies the evolution of the S.A.S would be also affected.
I hope that in TTL Max Merten will get what he deserves - the gallows.
He will definately not get hanged.
Oh definitely.

Considering Cyprus has a bunch of Greek units I could see the Greeks in Cyprus who're agitating for enosis would have some steel behind their words. I could defo see a spat between Britain, Greece and the US about it. The Turks are going to get nothing ittl which is good I guess.
Not Greek units but the Greek Cypriots do have actual combat units even if so far the Cypriot brigade has not seen active combat. The British are all too likely to want to stand it down as soon as the war is over, lest these pesky colonials get ideas but still several thousands of combat veterans are several thousands combat veterans. The political capital the Greeks have accumulated is probably worth more.
 
Appendix Hellenic Air Force May 1943
Order of Battle

10 Bomber Wing
32 Bomber Squadron "Keraunos" (Bristol Blenheim)​
34 Bomber Squadron "Ajax" (Martin Baltimore)​
11 Fighter Wing
21 Fighter Squadron "Theseus" (KEA Ierax)​
22 Fighter Squadron "Ierax" (KEA Ierax)​
24 Fighter Squadron "Ares" (Supermarine Spitfire)​
13 Combat Wing
12 Fighter Squadron "Leon" (Curtiss P-40)​
23 Fighter Squadron "Fantasma" ( Curtiss P-40)​
27 Fighter Squadron "Sparta" (KEA Ierax)​
15 Fighter Bomber Squadron "Tigris" (KEA Lynx)​
14 Fighter Wing
11 Fighter Squadron "Perseus" (Supermarine Spitfire)​
13 Fighter Squadron "Keraunos" (Supermarine Spitfire)​
30 Fighter Squadron "Drakon" (NAA P-51B)​
15 Combat Wing
25 Fighter Squadron "Aetos" (Curtiss P-40)​
29 Fighter Squadron "Alepou" (Hawker Hurricane)​
31 Fighter Bomber Squadron "Velos" (KEA Lynx)​
16 Combat Wing
26 Fighter Squadron "Herakles" (KEA Ierax)​
28 Fighter Squadron "Athena" (KEA Ierax)​
14 Fighter Bomber Squadron "Panther" (KEA Lynx)​
17 Bomber Wing
33 Bomber Squadron "Lailaps" (NAA B-25)​
35 Bomber Squadron "Typhon" (Martin Baltimore)​

Combat Aircraft Inventory

NAA P-51B: 20
Supermarine Spitfire: 54
Hawker Hurricane: 14
Curtiss P-40: 65
KEA Ierax: 110
KEA Lynx: 50
NAA B-25: 27
Martin Baltimore: 38
Bristol Blenheim: 26
 
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Order of Battle

11 Fighter Squadron (Supermarine Spitfire)
12 Fighter Squadron (Curtiss P-40)
13 Fighter Squadron (Supermarine Spitfire)
14 Fighter Bomber Squadron (KEA Lynx)
15 Fighter Bomber Squadron (KEA Lynx)
21 Fighter Squadron (KEA Ierax)
22 Fighter Squadron (KEA Ierax)
23 Fighter Squadron ( Curtiss P-40)
24 Fighter Squadron (Supermarine Spitfire)
25 Fighter Squadron (Curtiss P-40)
26 Fighter Squadron (KEA Ierax)
27 Fighter Squadron (KEA Ierax)
28 Fighter Squadron (KEA Ierax)
29 Fighter Squadron (Hawker Hurricane)
30 Fighter Squadron (NAA P-51B)
31 Fighter Bomber Squadron (KEA Lynx)
32 Bomber Squadron (Bristol Blenheim)
33 Bomber Squadron (NAA B-25)
34 Bomber Squadron (Martin Baltimore)
35 Bomber Squadron (Martin Baltimore)

Combat Aircraft Inventory

NAA P-51B: 17
Supermarine Spitfire: 53
Hawker Hurricane: 23
Curtiss P-40: 55
KEA Ierax: 106
KEA Lynx: 57
NAA B-25: 28
Martin Baltimore: 46
Bristol Blenheim: 19
Oh, no F4F Wildcat :(
 
Oh, no F4F Wildcat :(
There are political reasons for this. Namely that the Greeks were originally promised P-40 and this became F4F because the British purchasing commission was making its level best to keep every single P-40 for itself. Now the one aircraft I was tempted to see the Greek purchasing commission in the US try to get would be F4U. But there are reasons the Greeks would be getting Mustang over Corsair and for that matter P-47 as well... namely local Merlin engine production.
 
If you want a template all I did was take the world map with provinces and snip the part of interest. If you go to the maps section of the site the original template will likely be available without all the inconvenient colouring.
Sorry to ask but do you know what it was on? I can't find it ;(
Nvm I found it.
 
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Appendix Turkish Air Force May 1943
Order of Battle

1st Air Regiment
1 Aircraft Squadron (He-111)​
2 Aircraft Squadron (LeO-451)​
3 Fighter Squadron (Bf 109)​
4 Fighter Squadron (D.520)​
2nd Air Regiment
53 Fighter Squadron (Bf 109)​
54 Fighter Squadron (TOMTAS Okcu)​
27 Aircraft Squadron (Do-17)​
28 Aircraft Squadron (Hs 126)​
3rd Air Regiment
42 Fighter Squadron (Bf 109)​
57 Fighter Squadron (TOMTAS Okcu)​
23 Aircraft Squadron (Hs 126)​
24 Aircraft Squadron (Hs 126)​
4th Air Regiment
21 Fighter Squadron (Bf 109)​
41 Fighter Squadron (TOMTAS Okcu & Atmaca II)​
43 Fighter Squadron (TOMTAS Atmaca II)​
58 Fighter Squadron (TOMTAS Atmaca II)​

Combat Aircraft Inventory

Bf 109E/F/G: 78
TOMTAS Okcu: 53 [1]
TOMTAS Atmaca II: 44 [2]
Dewoitine D.520: 23
He 111: 24
LeO 451: 22
Do 17: 16
Henschel Hs 126: 59

[1] Locally built Reggiane Re.2005
[2] Modified Reggiane Re.2000 with DB601, similar to Re.2001
 
Part 119 Alcibiades revenge
Syracuse, Sicily, May 11th, 1943

Lieutenant colonel Demetrios Kaslas, became the first senior officer on the shore. All around him the men of his 34th Infantry regiment, for the most part recruited from Athens and Pireaus were storming out of the landing boats ashore, as did the men of the 3rd US Infantry division to which the Greeks had been attached. Italian resistance so far was limited, the 206th Coastal Division covering the beaches was thinly spread, badly equipped and consisting of mostly older reservists. After twenty four centuries the Athenians were back.

Andravida, Western Peloponnese, May 11th, 1943

Mustang III of HAF's 30th Squadron "Drakon", start taking off from the airstrips. They would meet over Zakynthos, the B-25s and Martin Baltimore's of the 17th Bomber Wing and head west to attack targets in Sicily. The Mustang III was something of a happy coincidence back from the dark days of 1941 when the French having bought the new Mustang I fighter were facing a shortage of Allison engines in Syria and had converted several airframes to use Merlins instead, which being built in Athens were more readily available. Even the makeshift French conversions had proven superior enough, for the British to start converting their own Mustangs to use the Merlin engine dubbing the conversions Mustang X. By early 1942 with the Americans now in the war the news were across the Atlantic and North American fast at work for a properly made Merlin Mustang instead of conversions.

Gela, Sicily, May 11th, 1943


The men of the British 50th Infantry Division stormed ashore. To their west 44th Infantry Division was landing at Licata. To their east 51st Infantry Division was landing at Scoglitti. Richard O'Connor's 8th Army had been tasked with the southern landing zones. Further to the east Patton's 7th Army, with the 3rd and 36th US Infantry divisions, the the Greek 34th Infantry regiment and 7th Regiment Tirailleus Algeriens were landing from Noto to Syracuse. If one added the 1st and 82nd Airborne divisions making the largest airborne assault the world had ever seen, the soldiers of Giovanni Messe's 6th Army that was responsible for the defence of Sicily had their work cut out for them.

Palazzo Venezia, Rome, May 12th, 1943

"I promised you we would break Negus ribs! As we did. Now I promise you we won't just break the ribs of the people that dared violate the sacred soil of Italy. We will break every single bone in their bodies and drown them to the sea for daring to do so!"

Italo Balbo, inside the room suppressed a sigh. Mussolini, talking to the crowd in Piazza Venezia below them, was attacking his subject with gusto, none had ever accused the man for not being a good orator. But the crowd beneath, party stalwarts and guys carried off the streets was notably subdued, compared to other times. The average Italian was willing to follow the duce as long as he was mostly left alone in his personal life and he brought victories outside Italy. But what had the war now in its third year and the alliance with the damn Tudros had brought Italy beyond some early victories bound to be reversed now that the Anglo-Americans had finally gotten their pace? A string of defeats, loads of casualties, now invasion of the motherland and subservience to the Germans, just as he had predicted. Mussolini could claim the Anglos would be thrown to the sea as much as he liked. But Messe was screaming for reinforcements, his own beloved air force was dying under the weight of enemy material and admiral Bergamini the new commander of the fleet wasn't exactly optimistic over the prospect of challenging the landings. Something had to be done but what?

Lemnos, May 13th, 1943


The last Turkish and German soldiers defending the island were marched to the transport ship waiting for them to moe them to the Makronisos prisoner of war camp. Lemnos was free once more. And Greek and American engineers were already at work repairing the airstrips and port facilities...

Brenner pass, May 13th, 1943


One more train carrying soldiers and tanks of the 15th Panzergrenadier division crossed the pass heading south. The OKW had been caught with its pants down by the Allied landings in Sicily, while 16 German divisions were in the Balkans not a single division was in Italy. The XIV Panzer Corps with 15th PanzerGrenadier and the Herpan Goring Panzer divisions was being hurried south but it would take a week till the first German division made it to Sicily. Till the Messe's men were on their own. And even now the OKW was still stringent with its reinforcements to Italy. The Allies were still attacking in the Balkans. Several divisions were tied down fighting in the Olympus and neither Hitler nor the OKW were convinced the landings in Gallipoli were a ruse and Sicily the real thing...

Syracuse, May 15th, 1943

The dishevelled group of Italian prisoners of war looked at the man before them with some consternation. The Americans who had captured them, had treated them well, feeding them much better than their own army had, many of the soldiers were even talking Italian after a fashion and were friendly. But this man was in Italian uniform. Not the one the army today used, an older one with a red shirt.

"My grandfather had told your forefathers that he offered neither pay, nor quarters, nor food; he offered only hunger, thirst, forced marches, battles and death. I offer you the same. Italy is enslaved, to the Germans and their fascist puppet and must be liberated. Let him who loves his country with his heart, and not merely with his lips, follow me."

A couple men looked at each other and took a step forward. More followed them. Most did not. They were content with the war being over for them. And the possibility of having to take one fellow Italians, fascist or otherwise was not one to be taken lightly.

Sante Garibaldi, had left Italy back in 1925 when he and his brothers had failed to stop Mussolini. In 1940 he had hopped on the last ship bringing the free Poles to Britain to fight on. Following that he had worked with the SOE in France, the Near East and Spain but could not bring himself to fighting fellow Italians. But this madness and the destruction of Italy had to end, and the honour of the country restored, his Polish contacts had given him information of what was going on in Poland, Italy could not be on the same side with this Germany, which seemed to be even more brutal than its own forefathers in 1871 and 1914. He had been allowed to recruit in the Greek POW camps right before the invasion of Sicily, the Greeks did have their misgivings but would not forget the Garibaldini, himself included, had come to fight for Greece in 1866, 1897 and 1912-13, they did own his family and knew it. And thus the Camicie Rosse were back...
 
Good update.

Wonder what Greece looks like postwar. I could see Constantinople (or Istanbul) being the site of some of TTL's James Bond movies, assuming he still exists in TTL...
 
Good update.

Wonder what Greece looks like postwar. I could see Constantinople (or Istanbul) being the site of some of TTL's James Bond movies, assuming he still exists in TTL...

I mean, it already is. İstanbul is in From Russia with Love, World is not Enough and Skyfall iOTL.
 
We finally get the Sicily landings that were teased for so long, and we even have a figurehead for opposition against the fascist gov, so maybe we'd have a shorter civil war between Mussolini/Axis and the allies. The regia marina and aeronautica should also be less damaged as the allies control a lot more of the med. I'd think the German operation in Italy would be less successful as a result.
 
So, the liberation of Lemnos means a) that it will be used as a forward base to exert pressure on all Axis-held North Aegean territories and b) that the bombers targeting the Ploesti oilfields have one more base.
I loved the "Athenians in Syracuse" pun, let;s hope it will end better this time for the Athenians. No German units in Sicily means that the capture of the island will be quicker. Note also that the Sicilian operation has started almost two months ahead of IOTL. I hope that Italo Balbo will be more capable than Badoglio and enact a more successful than IOTL Italian armistice.
 
Ok now things are seriously bad for the Germans. Especially when the Italians will dip this conflict, or maybe switch sides, and a huge whole will be opened on the Balkans. Not to mention at least 2 divisions of Italians fighting against Mussolini. I wonder where will the Germans prioritize reinforcements Italy or the Balkans? Maybe fall back in the Balkans to more defensible lines? that would leave Turkey on its own and Bulgaria proper open to invasion. Italy is a big peninsula on the other hand and quite mountainous so maybe they trade land for time to build something like OTL Winter Line maybe somewhat higher though so they have more time to send troops? I guess we will soon know.

Also with the addition of the Greek Navy maybe the Allies go for blocking any retreat of the Italians from Messina with their ships and planes forcing more Italians to surrender.
 
the Ploesti oilfields have one more base.
At ITTL stage of the war, with Greece still resisting and a Balkanic front active with allied air bases so much closer than OTL, would they still be a thing?... Cause, I'd have supposed that with them being a priority target, that they should be being bombed day and night incessantly by the Allies...
 
Very nice update, a lot happening very fast. The med campaign has a lot of ancient history echoing behind it this go round.

I wonder if Italy might actually come out of this better than otl ironically if they flip earlier and the allies don't need to fight quite as far in the North. Maybe they'll keep some more of Istria depending on how things go with the Yugoslavs?

Also, a Garibaldi leading the defectors charge! That's really neat! Id never heard of him.
 
After twenty four centuries the Athenians were back.
It was 2400 years long overdue.

The last Turkish and German soldiers defending the island were marched to the transport ship waiting for them to moe them to the Makronisos prisoner of war camp. Lemnos was free once more. And Greek and American engineers were already at work repairing the airstrips and port facilities...
The shipment of chrome ore to Germany will soon be a very perilous endeavor. The Allies will be able to provide fighter escort to the bombers attacking the Straits.

Sante Garibaldi, had left Italy back in 1925 when he and his brothers had failed to stop Mussolini. In 1940 he had hopped on the last ship bringing the free Poles to Britain to fight on.
I never saw that coming! Kudos!!!

He had been allowed to recruit in the Greek POW camps right before the invasion of Sicily, the Greeks did have their misgivings but would not forget the Garibaldini, himself included, had come to fight for Greece in 1866, 1897 and 1912-13, they did own his family and knew it. And thus the Camicie Rosse were back...
And the debt was repaid...

I wonder whether post-war Greece will have a closer relationship with Italy.
 
Good update.

Wonder what Greece looks like postwar. I could see Constantinople (or Istanbul) being the site of some of TTL's James Bond movies, assuming he still exists in TTL...
That would be telling. I'll only mention "The Raid" scenario based on book of the same name by M. Karagatsis, starring Gregory Peck, Anthony Quinn and David Niven coming out to a cinema near you in 1961. :angel:
I mean, it already is. İstanbul is in From Russia with Love, World is not Enough and Skyfall iOTL.
I'll let you people entertain the possibility of both Constantinople and Istanbul showing up in James Bond films. Whatever that may mean. :angel:
We finally get the Sicily landings that were teased for so long, and we even have a figurehead for opposition against the fascist gov, so maybe we'd have a shorter civil war between Mussolini/Axis and the allies. The regia marina and aeronautica should also be less damaged as the allies control a lot more of the med. I'd think the German operation in Italy would be less successful as a result.
Garibaldi was not very influential before his escape nor were his brothers, it certainly did not help that the other three brothers did come to terms with the regime. But I find some little satisfaction that both Peppino and Ricciotti Jr actively opposed the Germans and even Ezio the only fascist of the four was condemning the Nazis.
?? Tedeschi??
Tudro is the uhm... slang term. To put it politely.
So, the liberation of Lemnos means a) that it will be used as a forward base to exert pressure on all Axis-held North Aegean territories and b) that the bombers targeting the Ploesti oilfields have one more base.
It also removes Mudros as a forward base for German, Turkish and Italian submarines operating in the Aegean. By mid 1943 the Turkish surface navy is not much of a concern, even against the Greeks alone a foray in the Aegean would be likely suicidal, the Turks had no way to replace losses while the Greeks have received several ships from Britain..
I loved the "Athenians in Syracuse" pun, let;s hope it will end better this time for the Athenians. No German units in Sicily means that the capture of the island will be quicker. Note also that the Sicilian operation has started almost two months ahead of IOTL. I hope that Italo Balbo will be more capable than Badoglio and enact a more successful than IOTL Italian armistice.
If Balbo plays a role there... oh well if presented with the opportunity he'd likely try to get involved and given his reasonably good reputation with the British and Americans before the war...
Ok now things are seriously bad for the Germans. Especially when the Italians will dip this conflict, or maybe switch sides, and a huge whole will be opened on the Balkans. Not to mention at least 2 divisions of Italians fighting against Mussolini. I wonder where will the Germans prioritize reinforcements Italy or the Balkans? Maybe fall back in the Balkans to more defensible lines?
The Germans and Bulgarians are on very defensible lines in the Balkans... as long as none of the passes is controlled by solely Italian units, or thelanding capacity for large scale landings on the coast of Macedonia is not there.

that would leave Turkey on its own and Bulgaria proper open to invasion. Italy is a big peninsula on the other hand and quite mountainous so maybe they trade land for time to build something like OTL Winter Line maybe somewhat higher though so they have more time to send troops? I guess we will soon know.

Also with the addition of the Greek Navy maybe the Allies go for blocking any retreat of the Italians from Messina with their ships and planes forcing more Italians to surrender.
Too close to the Italian coast. If the Allies could not stop this in OTL another dozed destroyers is not very likely to alter things. After all fighting Greece means a small modern battleship and a very fine heavy cruiser as far as larger ships go. Then you have of course the Marine Nationale saving a LOT more ships than OTL.
At ITTL stage of the war, with Greece still resisting and a Balkanic front active with allied air bases so much closer than OTL, would they still be a thing?... Cause, I'd have supposed that with them being a priority target, that they should be being bombed day and night incessantly by the Allies...
In terms of operating against Ploesti Lemnos is marginally useful TTL. Athens to Ploesti is 800 km in a straight line. Very much within Mustang range and minor butterflies mean P-51B are already entering service in May. Of course on the reverse the Germans did show a modicum of common sense in providing the Romanians with a BMW801 licence so the Romanians have at leasr some competitive aircraft defending Ploesti compared to the totally outclassed IAR 80s in OTL...
Very nice update, a lot happening very fast. The med campaign has a lot of ancient history echoing behind it this go round.

I wonder if Italy might actually come out of this better than otl ironically if they flip earlier and the allies don't need to fight quite as far in the North. Maybe they'll keep some more of Istria depending on how things go with the Yugoslavs?

Also, a Garibaldi leading the defectors charge! That's really neat! Id never heard of him.
The Garibaldis were an... interesting family.
It was 2400 years long overdue.


The shipment of chrome ore to Germany will soon be a very perilous endeavor. The Allies will be able to provide fighter escort to the bombers attacking the Straits.


I never saw that coming! Kudos!!!


And the debt was repaid...

I wonder whether post-war Greece will have a closer relationship with Italy.
It depends. I'm personally fond of the Garibaldis so after accidentally having a Garibaldi in the exact right place to take advantage of the more successful Operation Aerial of TTL why the thing wrote itself. Do we potentialy see some more Garibaldine political influece in post war Italy? Liberal, republican and mildly socialist in the social-democrat sense? Possibly? What do our Italian readers think?
I'm curious about eastern Anatolia the allies have made some progress in the area
Im süd-ost nichts neues...
 
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