Muslim World: The True Faith Timeline

It can not happen at all, if the Abbassids revolt and take over the Ummayyads before the revolt happen, the reasons for its appearance disappear, because OTL the Abbassids were much more "tolerants", however they were weaker military, if an arabic caliphate is what you seek, you must keep the arabs in the command, OTL the arrival of turkic mercenaries precipited the downfall of the arabs and subsequently the islamic world.
It's difficult to stop the Turkic expansion entirely though. In a way, the Turkic peoples still taking over could be useful to the momentum of the timeline as IOTL Turkic dynasties spread Islam far into Asia and Europe and had potential to spread it further. Khazars and Bulghars could convert to Islam for example.
 
It's difficult to stop the Turkic expansion entirely though. In a way, the Turkic peoples still taking over could be useful to the momentum of the timeline as IOTL Turkic dynasties spread Islam far into Asia and Europe and had potential to spread it further. Khazars and Bulghars could convert to Islam for example.
Yep
 
Prologue: Chapter 3
Muslim World

The Battle of Cremona: The Fall of the Lombards

When arriving in Genoa, Martel after showing the size of its army [1] for the local authorities, obtains a fast surrender of the city without major problems [2]. So soon resuppling and marching to Piacenza, using the passes between the mountains for a faster journey.

After crossing the Trebbia River and arriving in Piacenza, Martel orders his brave army to go with everything against the forces of the city, that counts 6,200 soldiers under the command of the Duke of Piacenza, the Duke had ordered the construction of fortifications after receiving news of the arrival of the frankish army, after the first total attack of the army of Charles Martel, almost 5 times greater than the one of the enemy, 4 the duke's forces manage to prevent the success of the frank attack, but at the cost of heavy casualties for both the sides, after reorganizing, the army of Martel goes to a second attack, that surpasses the damaged and tired army of the duke easily, the same surrenders to the forces of Martel, that with captured Piacenza, cross the Po River and puts Pavia in siege in mid-May.

But Martel receives a letter from the Pope that the lombards are coming to the rescue, and the same soon broadens the siege and leaves a small fraction of his army to keep the siege alive [3], with the major part he stands in Cremona, with the aim of intercepting the Lombards in a favorable position, the first great battle of the Charles' campaign is eminent.

In early June, the lombards arrive near Cremona and soon Charles intercept them, starting the Battle of Cremona.

With a strong 23.000 man army, Charles manage to be on the defensive against the 21.000 lombard army, and try to trap them opening purposely his left flank to the enemy cavalry by moving his infantry to make something like a semicircle. The lombards do exactly what Charles want and do a cavalry charge in the frank exposed left flank. When the lombard cavalry reach the enemy lines, frank pike square formations who are in the rear of the army, await for them and, with help of frank cavalry detachments who are too in the rear, repel their charge, causing heavy casualties and leaving the right lombard flank vulnerable, possibiliting a full frank charge here, causing a collapse of this part of the lombard army and consequently of all their forces (except those that can flee).

After his great victory, making the Lombard army succumb, Charles Martel returns in its siege to the Pavia, managing to capture the localities near the city completely with certain facility, and sending small detachments of troops to put the area around him under his control. Meanwhile, Liutprand, the king of the Lombards, defended Pavia with 6,400 soldiers hoping to receive relief from a new Lombard army [4].

[1] - An army of approximately 26.000 men
[2] - There were a thousand soldiers making the garrison of the city, and there was not a beautiful one there of a plan to defend the city
[3] - The goal was simply to keep the siege "alive", in this case, to prevent the enemy from finding out that he did not have as many troops as before (which helps by the factor that he was waiting for the army that was coming to the rescue)
[4] - He does not know of the defeat of the reinforcement in Cremona
 
Prologue: Chapter 4
Muslim World

The Caliph's Table: The Value of Expansions

April 14, 739 - Damascus
Hishām, the Umayyad Caliph, has just received a report on the military campaigns ordered by him in the last years, he starts to read.

"After the defeat at the Battle of Marj Ardabil at the beginning of the decade, Our brave men succeeded in defeating a Khazar army in Mosul, forcing them to retreat north of the Caucasus mountains. Assuring our control to the south of the mountains.

In Transoxiana, after our hurtful defeat at the Day of Thirst and the pyrrhic, but glorious victory at the Battle of the Pass, with our new strength and much more strengthened [1], our governor Asad managed to defeat the Türgesh decisively (close to the present Sheberghan), and gave us the chance re-establish the Umayyad control in the Transoxiana [2]. And the Khagan was assassinated, leading to a apparent civil war in the Khaganate of Türgesh, disappearing any greater danger to our dominion in the region. [3]

Against the Byzantines, our men continued their regular attacks greatly, having as greatest achievement the capture of Akroinon (Afyonkarahisar, Turkey)."


With Hishām knowing of the cessation of the campaigns in the west, he began to establish Akroinon as a permanent point, with the construction of a fort in the city, thereby establishing a favorable position in Anatolia [4]. Hishām also orders campaigns to take Transoxiana with the end of Türgesh danger in the region. An expedition is also prepared to capture the principalities of northern caucasus. The strongest Al-Andalus establishment also goes well, with the fighting cessing allowing better Caliph control in the region.

[1] - The victory at Tours breathed new life into the caliph, who ordered a renewed new campaign to secure control of the region in 736, after Asad (governor of khorasan) suppress Harith's insurrection
[2] - Also struck a nice blow to Khagan's prestige
[3] - IOTL the berber revolt did not allow the Umayyads to seize the opportunity of the civil war
[4] - Remember this, will be VERY important later
 
nice very idea but i have seen errors like the al andulus one taking francia is not something that whould happend i mean for muslim expansions th best option would be taking the byzantine empire earlier since that make bulgaria muslims and the magyars as well and souther italy would be muslim

even if the muslims take all of souther francia charlemagne being a military genuis can kick them out of francia and take back nother italy
 
No. No! That’s not true! That’s impossible!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Search your feelings, you know is true.

nice very nica but i have seen erros like the al andulus one taking francia is not something that whould happend i mean for muslim expansions th best option would be taking the byzantine empire earlier
Taking Aquitane is pausable,very pausable and getting enough ground to defend it from francia too
 
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Taking Aquitane is pausable,very pausable and getting enough ground to defend it from francia too
i updated my asnwer mate even if they did
pepin and charlemagne are going to make the muslim conquest of francia impossible
 
With the POD itself..Pepin will have it hard anc charlemagne might not even have a chance...
the muslims took in this timline souther france the north is still good pepin was a great leader

but in our timeline the caliphate was over streched when it reached souther france

so over streched caliphate

nother france is still ok
great leaders:

pepin is still alive and charlemagne was military genuis he could very well kick them back to spain and free nother italy

the muslims have to many things agianst them
 
the muslims took in this timline souther france the north is still good pepin was a great leader

but in our timeline the caliphate was over streched when it reached souther france

so over streched caliphate

nother france is still ok
great leaders:

pepin is still alive and charlemagne was military genuis he could very well kick them back to spain and free nother italy

the muslims have to many things agianst them
You're thinking OTL, that cease to be, just wait and see what happens
 
You're thinking OTL, that cease to be, just wait and see what happens
well i read this timline starts with charles martel being alive
so yes pepin is still alive

also how did the caliphate took anatolia ? anatolia was going inland to anatolia was to much trouble that is why they attacked the capital directly
iam still curious about that

also did the siege of constaniople of 717 took place ? if it did the umayyed caliphate is doomed to death by the abbasids

also ok the caliphate took trasoxiana good that means that they are bordering the tang
 
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