McGoverning

So just to make sure we're counting right -- that's eight races the GOP TTL won that Democrats won OTL, with another three being the reverse; that means instead of the Senate cumulatively gaining four Democrats as OTL, it loses one, giving us a 55-43 split.
 
So just to make sure we're counting right -- that's eight races the GOP TTL won that Democrats won OTL, with another three being the reverse; that means instead of the Senate cumulatively gaining four Democrats as OTL, it loses one, giving us a 55-43 split.
God, imagine an OTL administration as radical as McGovern only losing a Senate seat and five House seats.
 
God, imagine an OTL administration as radical as McGovern only losing a Senate seat and five House seats.

Some of it here is that (1) in terms of what the McGoverners have accomplished ITTL, in the context of the first half of the Seventies, it's not as radical or rather more of the "radical" ideas (progressive taxation, some kind of form of universal health care) haven't been mau-maued as brutally as they would be later, most of the real palaver here belongs either to unrepentant segregationists who will fume at any liberal administration, and the Goldwater wing of the GOP. Ford dabbled with a kind of purgatory system (in the actual theological sense - a place where you're purged of your sins) for repatriating draft evaders, and MECA is an amped-up version, "liberal-ized" if you will, of a plan out of Nelson Rockefeller's think tank that the unions eyed suspiciously because it's still kind-of/sort-of single payer and they needed to attach their union-contracted supplemental insurance to it. Having cut Earl Butz off at the knees in the '72 cycle they still have space to try and save family farms and a population in the Plains States and some other regions receptive to the idea because they haven't lost their family farms yet.

That said, a few things obtain in this cycle. One is that it's a very messy cycle with a lot of localized characteristics. Some incumbents have sufficiently robust and complex home-base political power bases that they can ride it out, others get swept up and away based on whether their state loathes George McGovern or Richard Nixon more. Actually that's probably a better metric for judging how all this plays out - how much a given state/metro/region/district hates McGovern versus how much it hates Nixon. There's reaction against both that explains the sufficient levels of fratricide for things to wind up roughly level. A number of seats in both chambers change hands, along with governorships likewise, but the net result just happens to work out relatively even. A lot of that is due to the Dems being very, very lucky with the Senate map they've got, in terms of that "who do you hate more, the Hippie-Lover or The Dick?" dynamic. With a different Senate-class map in play things might not have been so tolerable.

At the same time, also, this kind of deadlock isn't so different from Nixon's 1970 midterms. For anyone who wanted a repeat of the bloodbaths of LBJ in '66 or Eisenhower's second term in '58, no such luck. There was a relatively equal amount of fratricide especially in the House.

@mr1940s ,

At this point Bill is (besides wherever he summers) pretty much a full-time Connecticut resident. Also it's a useful way to try and throw a shoe in the Democrats' works without having to drive a path through Jack Javits to do it. (Goodell was a weaker target.)
 
My condolences to everyone on how bloody long this one'll be, but as consolation, know that I wrote it all while listening to Jefferson Airplane's "Somebody to Love".

You get Litton in there, he’s gonna be a darling for moderates which will make all those McGovernite longhairs’ skin itch. They’ll get so upset about moderation it’ll drive more people our way.

It's a big tent. They can handle it, but what's Rove and Atwater without a streak of own-the-libs-before-it-was-cool?

I don’t know that RNC or the electeds take the policy stuff as seriously as they should, said Rove. I mean long term, yeah George McGovern can hang himself up on his “right to be different” bullshit. And yeah, sure he’s a pinko or a hippie-hugger or such, but look at the legislation, Lee. Look at the bills. The man’s buyin’ votes fit to compete with Lyndon Johnson. All those farm bills. Minimum wage. Tax credits. Fucking MECA, that’s gonna be a black hole of money and he got his best favorable/unfavorables ever on it because they’ve been bangin’ on about health insurance since FDR. He’s gonna have practically half the country on his payroll one way or another.

"Lyndon walked so that George could run" is my idealized legacy for this administration, but reality will probably bite plenty hard.

It was a straight shot out of the alpine womb of Colorado across the great flatness to the Cow Palace, so Hunter S. Thompson drove himself.

Is there more than one Cow Palace? One in San Fran, and one in Kansas City?

Thompson the old sports-beat guy respected the hell out of young Pokorny’s native skills at election time, while in the role of Frank Mankiewicz’s lieutenant, to Thompson that made Pokorny a kind of adoptive nephew.

GENE'S BACK, BABY!

The kind of guy who made Hubert Humphrey sound original, a tobacco-leagues Boeing whore who thought he was Pericles

*puts this in my back pocket for whenever I get back to writing for The New Order: Last Days of Europe*

Of course that clown car was to be packed full of Scoop’s reactionaries: “neoconservatives” some of them called themselves now and how in the hell you could let someone with a mouth like that into FDR’s party Thompson wasn’t sure, they looked to be mostly Jewish and Catholic ex-Trotskyites who’d slipped through the ideological event horizon on over to the other side, vanguarding for reaction now.

Radicals gonna radical. I'm sure that a certain Commentary commentator is going to rear his head soon enough.

The farm-staters liked that Udall liked trains

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I’ll tell you their concerns, said Thompson. They’re concerned that if too many people take the bus or an, an electric people-mover or can breathe the air, like, anywhere in California or New Jersey, then they won’t be making six bucks an hour grunting on the line, all for a tract house and a muscle car to get under on weekends and a whole twenty-minute halftime break in which to beat their wives on Sunday afternoons.

I take it you've read Jefferson Cowie's Staying Alive?

the mighty AMPI combine out of San Antonio

I'm going to have to ask to hear more about this particular nugget.

So they sweated Jake good, twice over, but in the end all they had was Jake Jacobsen, pallid in an Italian sportscoat and desperate for his fate, ready to turn hours of earlier sworn testimony precisely on its head just to cut a deal.

I wonder what Elijah Cummings is up to ITTL, because that sounds like a hilariously familiar setup.

Yes, said Connally. I think folks will want to watch and see.

Oh no.

A good life of Christian service for himself and his family, with Hanoi far behind.

Oh no. (You're truly second-to-none at making me anticipate the subject of the section without giving it a name)

he liked to think of himself like the fearless Belgian colonial educators of his doctoral thesis

Truly, one of the most cursed subjects imaginable. He should've stuck to dinosaurs. Although if he's reading this (and there's a non-zero chance), DM me. I'm sure we'd have plenty to chat about.

The Elks Lodge crowd loved the helmet-haired academic turned United States Representative for Georgia’s Sixth District. Leroy Newton Gingrich surveyed the gaggle of happy, cheering faces and saw what he hoped was the first adoring crowd of many.

Oh no.

Connecticut: Abraham A. Ribicoff (D) def. William F. Buckley, Jr. (R) (in which carpets are bagged though to no end effect)

It's so beautiful! In so many ways!

Pennsylvania: Richard Schweiker (R) def. Francis L. "Frank" Rizzo (D) (the ultra-liberal Republican essentially runs to Mayor Frank's left...)

Not that that's a hard thing to do.

Vermont: Patrick Leahy (D) def. Richard W. Mallary (R)

And thus, Vermont gains its first and (to this date) only Senate Democrat.

Florida: Republicans win FL-3 without Charlie there to hold it for the Dems; FL-5 still goes to the GOP; FL-8 the unforgettably named Joe Z. Lovingood (R) picks up the seat for the GOP and his porn 'stache (disclosure: I don't know if he had a porn 'stache but cannot imagine a candidate named "Joe Z. Lovingood" without one)

That's the 70s for ya.

Arizona: Evan Mecham (R) def. Raul Castro (D) in a recount because fuck my life...

OH NO.

California: Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown (D) def. Edwin Reinicke (R) hard for Reinicke to make stump speeches down the stretch when he's answering subpoenas...

Fun fact: I once wrote an abortive TL where Ed becomes governor after Ronny gets shot at the premiere of "Hello, Dolly!" because of People's Park.

Pennsylvania: Milt Shapp (D) def. Andrew L. Lewis, Jr. (R)

*does a little happy dance*
 
God, imagine an OTL administration as radical as McGovern only losing a Senate seat and five House seats
In the context of the time period, the heyday of the New Deal Coaltion, it's actually not a good look for the Democrats -- remember, between 1959 and 1994 OTL, that the lowest point for the House Democratic Caucus was 242, which these results have just pushed below; meanwhile, the Democratic Senate Caucus had recently, following 1970, found a low-point since 1958, which TTL it has done effectively nothing to pull itself back from.

It may not be enough to derail McGovern's liberal agenda in the short term, but it can absolutely pave the way for an earlier Gopper Congressional majority, possibly even as early as 1979 or 1981.
 
FL-8 the unforgettably named Joe Z. Lovingood (R) picks up the seat for the GOP and his porn 'stache (disclosure: I don't know if he had a porn 'stache but cannot imagine a candidate named "Joe Z. Lovingood" without one)
I found a pic of him, and while he's sadly clean-lipped he has something I'd argue is just as good/evocative:
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For the record, the Sarasota Herald-Tribune article this is from described it as his "ever-present cowboy hat" because he absolutely needed to fit his name to a T.
 
My condolences to everyone on how bloody long this one'll be, but as consolation, know that I wrote it all while listening to Jefferson Airplane's "Somebody to Love".

Again with the good taste. Grace might - might - eventually get to play a White House gig ITTL, with a little more distance/mileage forward from the Summer of Love. She and some aggregate of the several McGovern daughters can go toke up on the East Wing roof like JIMMEH's son and Willie Nelson IOTL.



It's a big tent. They can handle it, but what's Rove and Atwater without a streak of own-the-libs-before-it-was-cool?

They probably can. Although at that point there were even folk in the McGovern camp hemming and hawing about "purists" *coughFrankcough* so there's always a chance for the Democrats to find their way back into internecine combat with their ancient enemy, the Democrats. At the same time, yeah, there's some overestimation from these two Formula 1 drivers of polarization - hammers, things that look like nails, that sort of thing.


"Lyndon walked so that George could run" is my idealized legacy for this administration, but reality will probably bite plenty hard.

He's trying, he's trying. The thing about partisan politics is that it's often Newtonian, in that actions produce reactions. Strong actions incur what we could call a "reaction debt" and eventually someone usually shows up with the bill.



GENE'S BACK, BABY!

We love us some gene, he's the Good Blonde Bill Gates every political op should know and love (seriously, check out that mug shot in Campaign Trail '72, separated at birth.) Plus he's serious about the job. This is not a young man who intends to waste daylight.


*puts this in my back pocket for whenever I get back to writing for The New Order: Last Days of Europe*

It's shareware, please do.


Radicals gonna radical. I'm sure that a certain Commentary commentator is going to rear his head soon enough.

Kristol the Elder is aware of all ATL tropes.



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Oh good.


I take it you've read Jefferson Cowie's Staying Alive?

Very familiar. HST is laying it on a bit thick, but that's his way.


I'm going to have to ask to hear more about this particular nugget.

I'll see if I can run down some good sources on The Milk Money in all its many permutations, @Wolfram has some good ones esp. on Big Bad John's OTL legal woes.




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Oh no. (You're truly second-to-none at making me anticipate the subject of the section without giving it a name)

And we thank you.



Truly, one of the most cursed subjects imaginable. He should've stuck to dinosaurs. Although if he's reading this (and there's a non-zero chance), DM me. I'm sure we'd have plenty to chat about.

I'd like to take a Very Special Moment with this, because not everyone among the Careful Readers, or a wider audience, may be fully aware.

Y'see, this fucking guy

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while in grad school, applied for and received grant money to do overseas research for his doctoral dissertation. He took that money, found a nice little Brussels pied a terre, burrowed into the Belgian national archives, and then wrote his thesis.

About Belgian colonial education policy.

In the Congo.

From the Belgian point of view.

It explains so much. The more you know.




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It's so beautiful! In so many ways!

Why thank you.



That's the 70s for ya.

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Fun fact: I once wrote an abortive TL where Ed becomes governor after Ronny gets shot at the premiere of "Hello, Dolly!" because of People's Park.

Oh fun!


*does a little happy dance*

MIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLT
 
I found a pic of him, and while he's sadly clean-lipped he has something I'd argue is just as good/evocative:
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For the record, the Sarasota Herald-Tribune article this is from described it as his "ever-present cowboy hat" because he absolutely needed to fit his name to a T.

Godspeed, Old Man Lovingood.
 
Alabama: Capt. Jeremiah Denton, USN (ret.) (R) def. James Allen (D) (an Alabama civil war over the fortunes of the Wallace machine becomes the kind of transformative moment Strom Thurmond has dreamed of; the South Carolina grandee was seen shortly thereafter hitting himself repeatedly in the groin with a leather-bound Title 9 of the United States Code shouting "GO DOWN GODDAMMIT IT'S BEEN SIX HOURS!!!")
You may need something stronger, may I recommend this Nixon autobiography?
Kansas: William R. "Bill" Roy (D) def. Robert J. "Bob" Dole (R) (BOBDOLE does not believe that BOBDOLE's relationship with indicted former President Nixon or BOBDOLE's vote for BOBDOLE's rural constituents on the FFRA that disgusted hard-line voters who may have stayed home affected BOBDOLE's fortunes... no BOBDOLE does not believe that's BOBDOLE's actual scalp on Bill Roy's wall at all ....)
Sounds like BOBDOLE needs rebooting,,, oh well, it been replaced
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All righty then. Just a few things going on there...
Vas a compartir jefe correcto
 
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My Pop-Pop worked a hump yard, and my house is within earshot of the Norfolk Southern's Lehigh Line, so I guess I've had a certain appreciation for the things since I was a tyke. Not the eidetic memory of some folks I know, but still, it's an instinct that I reckon comes from prehistoric megafauna.

MIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLT

Has Pennsylvania had better governors? Maybe. Has Pennsylvania had more iconic governors? Certainly. But has Pennsylvania produced a governor who was quite as delightful as Milton Shapp? I think not.
 
My Pop-Pop worked a hump yard, and my house is within earshot of the Norfolk Southern's Lehigh Line, so I guess I've had a certain appreciation for the things since I was a tyke. Not the eidetic memory of some folks I know, but still, it's an instinct that I reckon comes from prehistoric megafauna.

Has Pennsylvania had better governors? Maybe. Has Pennsylvania had more iconic governors? Certainly. But has Pennsylvania produced a governor who was quite as delightful as Milton Shapp? I think not.

Excellent stuff. Just excellent.
 
Reading the updates and I just have a few things to say:

With regards to Newt Gingrich, my uncle called him a bottom-feeder, because, in nature, newts are bottom feeders--it's quite appropriate for Mr. Gingrich...

Jeremiah Denton in the Senate--I'm getting Kentucky Fried Politics flashbacks (he got elected President and, well, to say his second term as President ITTL didn't go well is like saying the Titanic had a minor leak). And, yes, Strom needs to see a doctor about that--maybe a specialist (the thought of him having something like that makes me want to reach for the brain bleach)...

Frank Rizzo losing--yeah, that's really a big loss (I'm being sarcastic)...

Sissy Farenthold I remember (in addition for being a woman politician in Texas) because her step-grandson, Blake Farenthold, was my Congressional representative (he defeated Solomon Ortiz--my late mom hated him for that in part) until he had to step down due to sexual harassment allegations--he also was notorious for being in a photo wearing ducky pajamas standing next to a woman in lingerie...

I hope Barbara Jordan goes far--having an African-American woman from Texas succeed would be something...

As for Bob Dole, Bob Dole can't deny that Bob Dole lost, but Bob Dole is not done. Bob Dole will be back again, Bob Dole can guarantee that...

Good chapters, and waiting for more, @Yes; you have a way with words...
 
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Jeremiah Denton in the Senate--I'm getting Kentucky Fried Politics flashbacks (he got elected President and, well, to say his second term as President ITTL didn't go well is like saying the Titanic had a minor leak).

He was Rumsfeld's second VP in Rumsfeldia, so naturally, his presence in this update left my brain going Full Klaxon.
 
My impression, based on back and forth with @Yes, is that the 1980 GOP Candidate is going to be someone looking to bring Rockefeller Republicans, Nixon Apologists, and Wallace Voters, all under one roof -- in contrast to Reagan's OTL strategy selling an ever more increasingly bolder Right Wing to the White Backlash and other nervous populations -- though I've never really been sure who the best fit for that would be.

I'll admit, I hadn't considered John Connolly, much less Denton...
 
My impression, based on back and forth with @Yes, is that the 1980 GOP Candidate is going to be someone looking to bring Rockefeller Republicans, Nixon Apologists, and Wallace Voters, all under one roof -- in contrast to Reagan's OTL strategy selling an ever more increasingly bolder Right Wing to the White Backlash and other nervous populations -- though I've never really been sure who the best fit for that would be.

I'll admit, I hadn't considered John Connolly, much less Denton...

Denton wouldn't be a bad pick. He's green, though. As to 'Ol Johnny, well, it'd be interesting to see him as the Republican nominee, but it might look too... slippery, shall we say, to the viewers at home.
 
Colorado: Richard "Dick" Lamm (D) def. John David Vanderhoof (R) OK OLD PEOPLE, DIE ALREADY

The Gentleman's not gonna be happy.

Florida: Reubin Askew (D) def. Jack Eckerd (R) Askew uses his track record and personal popularity to hold off a stiff challenge from the pharmacy magnate

I think you mean Mr Thumbs.

Texas: John B. Connally, Jr. (R) def. Frances "Sissy" Farenthold (D) (Texas Monthly will dine out on this one for decades as THE QUEEN takes Dolph's receding little scalp but Big Bad John wins the battle royale)

Oh, is he Tex? Maybe not. Too obvious.
 
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I never expected to learn so much about Bob Dole's childhood.

What It Takes did more to explain the complicated psychology of Gary Hart to me than anything else written about him. It also did yeoman's work in explaining Joe Biden's and Michael Dukakis's...missteps in 1987-88. In so many ways, Dukakis laid the track for Clinton to drive in 1992, the neoliberal policies behind a genial face, the thought that Democrats needed to be more like Republicans instead of recognizing what really drove all those GOP presidential wins from Nixon to Bush peré. HST got it, always did, and a shame that Dems didn't listen and realize that it wasn't some great love for GOP economics that drove their voters, but the hate in their hearts, hate fueled by fear of not holding the upper hand, fear of not being above others. That hate would likely have been tempered if the economy had been better, but there were a million misses along the way that caused that to happen--a failure to heed Robert McNamara's 1960 warning about the compact cars of West Germany and Japan gaining footholds in America and so Detroit needed to start shrinking cars down to compete; Vietnam taking money and focus from the Great Society, which made it the worst of sins: the half-measure, allowing conservatives to attack its failures and reinforcing the idea that spending money to help the poor and minorities was wasteful; The Dick's goosing of the economy via the pliant Arthur Burns at the Fed; Alan Greenspan and Bill Simon, terrible people with terrible ideas, being the driving force of Ford's misguided WIN campaign; Jimmy Carter's micromanaging missing the forest for the trees; the Reaganauts deliberately setting America on culture war fire--all of this led to the now, and the now is not a good place because of it.

Anyway, thrilled this is back.
 
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