Map Thread XVIII

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Map challenge idea: expand a political entity’s territory as far as you can while still retaining its general shape.

These aren't nearly as good as your Texas one, but

Giant Chad:
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Megassouri
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Grande Portugal
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“The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been” -Luo Ben


When the revolution against the Manchu devils occurred in 1912, the concept of a republic, the concept of having your voice truly heard, was about to flourish under Sun Yat-Sen, yet the requirements of the revolution would cause tension throughout the republic. In a backhand deal negotiated by the KMT and Yuan, Yuan Shikai would be granted the title of President, and Sun would step down from politics. The hope was that Yuan Shikai would respect the provisional constitution of the Republic. Yet time would only tell if he would respect the ideals that the Wuchang and Xinhai Uprisings and that there wouldn’t be a new Empire. Yet that would not be the case.

1913. The first democratic elections would occur in the Republic of China, showing that the republican tradition can be formed anywhere. When the parliamentary elections occurred, despite the KMT winning an overwhelming majority, the leader, Song Jiaoren, who was expected to become Premier of the RoC. was assassinated. Apparently it was by someone ‘acting on the orders of the higher ups’. This caused controversy among the National Assembly who all pointed their fingers on Yuan. Sun, angered by this blatant use of state-sanctioned violence, called for another revolution to crush the traitors to the Republic and to restore the dream. However, by the end of 1913, the Second Revolution against the Beiyang regime had all but collapsed, and Sun retreated to Japan. Immediately, Yuan called for fresh presidential elections, to occur. Despite only getting 70% of the vote, he acquired all of the electoral votes needed to sustain himself as the President of the Republic. It seems as if there were some ‘questionable donations’ to multiple electors, thus securing his position.

With this in mind, Yuan began to solidify his position inside the Republic, appointing his most loyal, and his most capable generals to the highest of positions within the Republic. This would lead to levels of corruption not seen in China, since the Qing. Everything seemed set for a monarchy to return to this land once more, and for an uprising to occur to tear it down…

And that is exactly what happened.

Yuan declared himself emperor in late 1915, hoping to solidify his rule even further. This however, only pisses off the entire country, including his loyal subordinates. Immediately, Cai E, head of Yunnan Province, declared independence and called for other provinces to do the same. This was driven by the fact that Yuan declared himself emperor in a country that did not want emperors. Not anymore. They have ruined China, they have humiliated the Chinese and now Yuan desired to bring it back? Well, this would not go well. Immediately after Cai E won the battle of Sichuan and soon, province after province declared independence from this bastardized attempt at a monarchy. With all these factors playing, it as apparent that Yuan would either live the rest of his live in shame, or die for his values.

He chose the former, and died a disgraced president. Now, now the system he oh so carefully crafted…

...Is about to come crashing down…

Immediately after Yuan’s death, there began to form separate individual cliques, composed of his former subordinates. 2 of these would go on to form the core of Chinese politics. The Anhui clique, lead by Duan Qirui, a cold, calculating man with a penchant for efficiency. He was also a man with a more..effective means at crushing the South. And then there’s the Zhili Clique, lead by Feng Guozhang, who was a more conciliatory man, wanting to mend the North-South divide. These to, based on their own political views, and gains, would obviously come to a head, and that wouldn't be more said, than the Constitutional Protection War.

Apparently, Sun Yat-Sen was not done with his dream, for he was not going to waste 30 years of his work on something as petty as an old man who was too senile for his own good. So he would prepare for another attempt at bringing about his republic. With the help of Lu Rongting, governor of Guangxi (who was ironically appointed by Yuan himself), he began the Constitutional Protection War, which was primarily fought in the southern regions of China. Duan Qirui resigned following a disastrous campaign in the south, and an armistice was reached. Until there wasn’t one. Cao Kun, a general loyal to the Zhili Cliques, was ordered by both cliques to do something about this ceasefire, and so began a campaign into the south. By 1920, with the Old Gui Clique getting tired of the constant political struggles, attempted to negotiate with the northern government, causing Sun Yat-Sen to practically get booted out of Guangzhou. This would end Constitutional Protection War, and bring some stability for the Chinese Republic.

Until...it didn’t

In early 1920, after having disagreements over the fate of the south, the two predominant cliques began to butt heads in the political scene. This would be exacerbated by the usage of loans (courtesy of Duan) from the Japanese to occupy Manchuria via a private army. Immediately in the following days after the formation of a enlarged anti-Anhui alliance, a telegram stating this alliance was disclosed to the whole of China, circulating en masse, and angering the Anhui clique. One thing is for certain. War was to be declared, and it as going to end with heads on the chopping block.

Immediately, following the declaration, Duan began to mobilize his clique’s army to the NRA, while the Zhili did the same. They attacked in July, and began each others raids on the railways of Hebei Province. The Anhui began a charge on the Zhili fronts, and so did the Zhili. While the Zhili were able to hold off the Anhui armies, there were signs that this could break. Luckily, the had an experienced general on their side; Wu Peifu. Wu, knowing that the war could not drag on, attempted a breakthrough in the Anhui defenses, and so began a daring maneuver to crush the Anhui and bring the Zhili clique to become the dominant force in the RoC, along with the Fengtian Clique.

It failed, miserably

By September, the front was reaching nowhere, and now there is fears that the two sides would kill each other and possibly the Fengtian Clique could take advantage of the situation and obliterate the both of them. So they attempted something not seen in this era. Not bribed, threats, or even assassinations. But instead, a compromise. They would agree to a power sharing agreement where they would rotate the Presidency from Anhui to Zhili to Fengtien and so on. This agreement, known as the Zhihui Agreement, would be the bedrock of the government...and it began with the buying of the Presidency by Duan Qirui

Just weeks after the Anhui, Fengtian and Zhili Cliques formed an effective government, and days after the rise of Duan Qirui, the South erupted into political disarray. Several of the Cliques began to fear what would happen when the ‘Northern Devils’ decided to agree on something regarding the South. And so, they began to plan what they called “The Republican Restoration”. This plan was to end this ‘stratocracy’ and to bring the Republic back to life, under them of course. With this in mind, they began to mobilize. Members of the Yunnan, Gui, and begrudgingly the Yue Cliques all attacked several key positions along the Anhui-Jiangxi Railroad, destroying any vital supplies to reach the south and crippling any chance for an easy travel. Suffice to say that this war won’t be easily won…

1921. The Republican Restoration Army begins its marches into the provinces of Zhejiang and Hunan, beginning their campaign into the southern reaches of the Federation, and eventually reach into the heartland of the Federation Meanwhile, the Federation began an incursion into Sichuan and Yunnan, partially held by the RRA, in an attempt to catch them off guard. With them winning the battles of Chengdu and Chongqing, the Federation was now in control of the water supply, it seemed evident that the provinces would succumb to the might of the Federative Army. They would not. They were that determined to hold on to their dream, their dream of crushing the Federation and to serve themselves. When offered bribed by Duan himself, some came to his side, while others did not. Apparently there were those that actually had convictions, however wrong they may be. This act weakened the RRA, causing them to lose their advances into Jiangsu. By August 1921, the frontlines were stabilized, buu both sides were tiring out. Duan was worried that if the war continued, then the Zhihui agreement would come crashing down, leading to a return to the Beiyang mess of the early 1910’s.

Yet there is some hope. And that hope lies on one battle. The battle of Guiyang

November 2, 1921. Guizhou. A contingent of the RRA, lead by Tang Jiyao was intercepted by a regiment of the 4th Division, lead by a minor general. With the battle being a failure for the 4th division, there was however a massive victory in some aspects. For one thing, it slowed down the advance into Jiangsu and more importantly, they were able to kill Tang Jiyao. This, is a gamechanger. With the death of Tang, there was one less head to the hydra of the RRA. This would lead to a string of victories in Jiangsu and Zhejiang, culminating with the battle of Hangzhou and Lishui. Battle after battle would lead to the RRA losing more and more land. And soon, they would create a encirclement campaign which accelerated the capture of territory.

February 5, 1922, and the Republican Restoration Army surrendered in Shenzhen, ending the Republican Restoration Wars.

Now with the country properly united, there had to be the issue of reintegrating the South. While there was the popular idea of appointing more capable leaders to these areas, some feared the restarting of the Republican Restoration Wars So there was an alternative, proposed by the Republican faction of the Anfu Club. This alternative was to ring back Sun Yat-Sen, to form a republican faction within the federation, in order to prevent the formation of a new Southern Faction; by keeping it a divided mess of republics that could not agree on anything.

Perfect for Duan to keep control of the country.

Soon after that was agreed, the came the issue to represent the cliques in the country, as the Anhui-Zhili Wars caused multiple cliques to split from both major cliques. Not to mention the enlargement of the Fengtian Clique. So a convention was created to modify the Zhihui agreement, but that only morphed into a Constitutional Convention whereby many of the provisions of the Zhihui Agreement were transferred onto a more comprehensive document. There was to be the following in the Chinese Federation’s structure

There were to be 4 Branches of government;

The Legislative Yuan was to be the legislative body of the nation, creating the laws of the land and proposing policies related to the laws. The LY has each of it’s electoral seats divided among the cliques evenly among the 500 members of the National Assembly, with land owning cliques and non-land owning cliques.

The Systems Yuan. A branch of the government designed to represent the cliques, and appoint the President of the Republic. It is also designed to discuss policies that related to their systems, such as the ‘Pact for Stability’, and other alliances

The Executive Yuan. A national agency designed to help coordinate with the Systems Yuan, and to represent the wishes of the federation in whole to other countries. In theory this branch is supposed to be the weakest one, it rapidly developed into a powerful role, equivalent to that of a prime minister.

The Judicial Yuan. It was initially designed to determine whether the constitutionality of laws in the Federation, but since a landmark decision in 1923, it can now determine the constitutionality of laws, regardless if they are system or federal.

Now with the legal precedent out of the way it was time to formally get this country back on its feet. Immediately, Duan initiated the first Five-Year Plan. These plans were to take into account the economic conditions of China, which have not improved since the end of the Qing. These plans called for an upsurge in the construction of railways, ports, and mining facilities in order to sustain the economy.

To do this, Duan created a policy of a more hands on approach through the usage of state sponsored companies, protectionism the Chinese economy, and support of state sponsored unions. With this, the economy doubled in under 2 years. Another feat Duan managed to achieve was to create an agency for an effective tax collection scheme. While in the past, this was to be seen as another plot to fund the military, but now with the interconnectedness of the cliques, that seems to be less of the case.

Now under Cao Kun however, things would skyrocket. A head of the Zhili Clique, he used his influence (and some say bribes), to help coordinate with the systems in order to allow for a consistent economic policy. One of those actions was the strengthening of state sponsored unions throughout the whole Federation. Before, the cliques would pursue their own economic policies, and even conflicting with one another. Now, under Cao, there became a standardization of the railway system, a lifeline of any country at the time. Not satisfied, he went even further, standardizing the units of measures and weights in the country. Combined with a mass increase in privatization from the state owned monopolies, initiated by Cao himself, ther began to be a boom in industrial production. By the end of his Presidency, his economic programs have resulted in a more stable China, albeit not as explosive in growth as that of Duan’s presidency.

Now with the Anhui and Zhili cliques presidential terms ending, it is time for the new President, head of the Fengtian Clique, Zhang Zuolin, to decide the fate of the country. On one hand, he has a China, capable of becoming the next great power, with a stabilized economic sector to boot. On the other hand, there is much worry, such as the extreme poverty in the countryside with the lack of any effective reforms. Not to mention the constant corruption inherent in the Legislative and Systems Yuan, and the rise of radical parties, such as the Chinese Anarchist Revolutionary Front, lead by a Mao Zedong. There is also the growing threat of the Southern Union, an alliance of cliques lead by Neo-Sunist Governors who advocate the abolishment of the respectable clique system and the formation of a “Republic”, whatever that may be.


What time will tell for China, no one is sure, as anything goes. But one thing is for certain, it was once divided, now it must unite.

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Am I the only one who is put off by "ideal" maps?

To me, no matter how they are framed, every one (whether consciously or unconsciously) will inevitably be a reflection of the creator's prejudices and cultural preferences.

I dunno; just the idea of a single person laying out a map which they indicate how they think it "should" be just makes my skin crawl.
I've definitely felt this sentiment before, never understood why so many people are obsessed with giving the Greeks Western Anatolia in particular but hey, it's not like it will ever become a reality.
Personally whenever I see those kinds of maps and think of what my ideal world would look like, it's usually just a mix of ideas that I'm interested in at the time, which can and often does change by the day.
 
I really enjoy these so far.

Tell us more about Hanover, Westphalia, and Mecklenburg-Schwerin if you may. Oh And Saxoy and Bohemia.

My Pleasure; Hanover remains under Union with the UK since Queen Victoria's birth is butterflied away; they were able to quite effectively build a wall to defend the northern parts of the kingdom. Hanover was also the first country to suggest (and later form) a coalition against the dead; Hanover, Oldenburg, Bremen, and Hamburg are all in a military-economic alliance to keep each others wall up to protect the group. Such undead focused alliances would go on to be formed in most European states that border each other.

Westphalia was formed as a breakaway state of the Kingdom of Prussia; as Prussia was busy getting Thanos snapped, they were unable to really stop Westphalia. Currently Westphalia has an alliance with Berg and the Lower Rhine since they all aided each other in breaking off. The Kingdom of Westphalia has become a quite powerful minor power within Europe, but their influence reaches no where near that of the South German Confederation; They are currently trying to form a German Rhenish Confederation, with pretty much every German nation west of the South German Confederation. They are doing an alright job as many of the western states share the same currency.

Mecklenburg-Schwerin didn't lose too much land when compared to Denmark or Brunswick, but their economy was still crippled. They are currently inspired by the actions of Bavaria and looking into annexing Mecklenburg-Strelitz (whether by peace or force) and are under talks with the Pomeranias to form a "United Kingdom of Pomerania" However, these talks are not looking too likely as both are close allies to Sweden. Unlike many of the other states in Europe, the Mecklenburgs are really squeezed between two spheres of influence.

Saxony was lucky to border mountains along its entire southern frontier; they still long over half their land including their capital, but again the context of the apocalypse shows they are doing well. Their current biggest worry is that their undead coalition with Royalist Bohemia is both too valuable to cancel and actively bringing them threats of war from Austria. As a result, what they wanted as an ally in holding the walls has forced them into a full on alliance. As a result, they are one of the most eager states to join the South German Confederation.

The Kingdom of Bohemia isn't really what the name implies; in reality it is a state established by the Germans in Bohemia with a Hapsburg noble on the throne; they are currently questioning whether to stick with Saxony and the other states of Germany, or rejoin the Austrian Empire. The actual Bohemian Crown fled farther East and was unable to find a hold out; the Royal Family is currently living in Moravia, but hold plans to retake Bohemia.
 
I've definitely felt this sentiment before, never understood why so many people are obsessed with giving the Greeks Western Anatolia in particular but hey, it's not like it will ever become a reality.
Personally whenever I see those kinds of maps and think of what my ideal world would look like, it's usually just a mix of ideas that I'm interested in at the time, which can and often does change by the day.

My ideal world map can either be really difficult to make or really easy, really easy because my ideal world would be a world government, really hard because said ideal world would, subdivisions wise, be balkanized to hell with many different forms of government with a large interest in self determination, with any region that wishes to get their own subdivision being allowed to, so I wouldn't say everyone is like what you say
 
Texas: Bigger, But Still The Same Shape

Map challenge idea: expand a political entity’s territory as far as you can while still retaining its general shape.

Here’s how far I could expand Texas:
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Please note: I’m really bad at making maps on the computer.



Basemap: http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjSne-_7J7gAhXwUt8KHcezAUkQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.globalcitymap.com%2Fnorth-america%2Fnorth-america-blank-map.html&psig=AOvVaw1Oa3MuVZ0NDWVN1jYizT4l&ust=1549258675683089

Is it just me or is Texas " flipping the bird"
 
-Neo Wadai Empire
-Neo Sultanate of Air, courtesy of the Kaocen Revolt led by Ag Mohammad Wau Teguidda Kaocen
-Massive Senussi Influence
Mmm...more Sahelian states
What time will tell for China, no one is sure, as anything goes. But one thing is for certain, it was once divided, now it must unite.
Phenomenal work, Ernak. Just one tiny nitpick: Shenzhen was just a small town at this point of history, and the major cliques probably wouldn't choose to hold a peace conference there. Perhaps Guangzhou would be a better choice?
 
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