Thanks for pointing these out, I remember telling myself to add Gibraltar before I saved the WIP but I guess it slipped my mind. You’re right about the subdivisions too, I was tracing a lot from a 1919 QBAM I found and it appears I left things like the British-Belgian occupation zone markers in by accident.
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Thanks for pointing these out, I remember telling myself to add Gibraltar before I saved the WIP but I guess it slipped my mind. You’re right about the subdivisions too, I was tracing a lot from a 1919 QBAM I found and it appears I left things like the British-Belgian occupation zone markers in by accident.
I'd say keeping those areas might be fine. I suppose it depends on what level of integration the French as going for. Besides, the zone the British got could probably get a role similar to Saar, economically at least, even if distance might be an issue. I can also imagine having a clearly defined zone in the north would be good for if the Belgians keep around economically and politically. As they would be speaking French, it would simply be another way to meld them closer to Paris.
1961 Canadian Republic Referendum - Canada with equal French and English speaking population
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Hi, here's a quick map! So here there isn't a single POD, but basically ) the acadian aren't expulsed and 2) there is some kind of missouri compromise between the french and english to the west so the french take everything between 52°N and 55°N and the english, between 49°N and 52°N. With the land given to the french most quebeckers who would emigrate to the United States go west instead.
The french population is mostly for a republic, although a good number of french especially around montreal simply don't care or have some loyalty to the crown. The acadian and french who emigrated west are among the most anti-monarchy. The english are more divided, the English speaking minority in Nova Scotia (centered around Halifax, the whole region had much less scottishand irish imigration than IRL) is very staunchly against becoming a republic, At the same time many english speakers, often descendant of german and nordic migrants in the prairies provinces generally don't care much about that and can be interested about a formal "independance". Vancouver island is the home of the British Pacific Fleet and stayed a british dominion until the 1930s. There is also a lot of tensions between This timeline's USA and the Commonwealth, and Canada has increasingly become an american satellite state, at least economically (despite a slightly larger population than IRL), so some people think that leaving the commonwealth would make for better relations with the United States
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Hi, here's a quick map! So here there isn't a single POD, but basically ) the acadian aren't expulsed and 2) there is some kind of missouri compromise between the french and english to the west so the french take everything between 52°N and 55°N and the english, between 49°N and 52°N. With the land given to the french most quebeckers who would emigrate to the United States go west instead.
The french population is mostly for a republic, although a good number of french especially around montreal simply don't care or have some loyalty to the crown. The acadian and french who emigrated west are among the most anti-monarchy. The english are more divided, the English speaking minority in Nova Scotia (centered around Halifax, the whole region had much less scottishand irish imigration than IRL) is very staunchly against becoming a republic, At the same time many english speakers, often descendant of german and nordic migrants in the prairies provinces generally don't care much about that and can be interested about a formal "independance". Vancouver island is the home of the British Pacific Fleet and stayed a british dominion until the 1930s. There is also a lot of tensions between This timeline's USA and the Commonwealth, and Canada has increasingly become an american satellite state, at least economically (despite a slightly larger population than IRL), so some people think that leaving the commonwealth would make for better relations with the United States
Eventually one would become the dominant power in the Med, most likely. Maybe...
Thats a curious looking Germany, and an American Kalingrad?
Date and POD please. Tell me more.
I'm guessing Canada, Australia, Argentina, and the EU are the major world powers. Anyone else I'm missing?I've been wanting to try my hand at an ISOT for a while, but most good ideas seem to have already been taken by much more talented mapmakers. This premise is one I've never seen before, though.
This is ~30 years after the 25 most populous nations were replaced by virgin land.
(I'm also planning on doing 100 years and 200 years post-ISOT, as well as finishing a key for this map.)
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Canada and Australia are definitely in the top position; Argentina is lagging a little behind those two, and the EU is definitely not as great as it once was. Korea is a little too isolationist-fascist-y to do much internationally, Ukraine and Kazakhstan are both solid middle powers. In addition, ASEAN is roughly on EU level, and things are looking good for Kenya and Colombia.
For what it's worth, the UN Security Council permanent members consist of Canada, Australia, Argentina, Taiwan, and Kazakhstan.
It’s a work in progress at the moment but the PoD is a successful socialist November Revolution in 1918 Germany, the Entente and Freikorp attempt to suppress it but the Entente is overstretched and the Freikorp enjoy less effectiveness than OTL and they retreat to Prussia. This complicates Versailles considerably and the Prussian remnants of the Monarchy are recognized as the legitimate state (although the Poles take advantage of the weak German presence and try to absorb portions of Prussia.) The Rhine is occupied by an Entente coalition and eventually awarded to the French during negotiations.
So to answer your question: East Prussia is in the hands of the toppled German regime and protected by remnant Freikorp divisions and Germany itself has gone socialist-revolutionary.
Also made this one the last days, its basically my first alternate timeline map:
Carthaginian Victory in the (First) Punic War against Rome
256 - Battle of Cape Ecnomus --- Carthaginian victory over the Roman Fleet
subsequently no roman Invasion of Africa
254 - Samnite Rebellion in Italy
252 - Roman Victory over the rebelling Samnites; Roman financial and manpower weariness
251 - Carthaginian counter invasion of Italy
250 - Carthaginian Victory over Rome in a Battle near Capua; Rome surrenders;
Magna Graecia under the leadership of Tarent splits off of Rome
Due to the drainage of man and coins Carthage can't take the whole of Sicily and
Tarent/Magna Graecia and Syracuse form an alliance.
In the following years Carthage expands its holds in Africa and Hispania
In the East, you could see the rising star of the Seleucids without Rome come around again. They conquer Asia Minor and maybe even Greece. (Coming to blows with Macedon.) Egypt is not in its later decline so it can throw itself around still. Carthage lacks power projection capability and even the desire to get into the East outside of trade. (And even if they did, it would become a waste of resources while Rome plots.) They focus would be on Africa, Italy and Hispania. Plus they would already be a fabulously wealthy empire with no real need to expand or go to war with the Hellenistic kingdoms, at least in the short term. (Plus the Eastern Mediterranean island fortresses are a pain.)
In the end, Carthage is almost a glass cannon. "Carthage could inflict a Cannae. They could not survive one." Rome in OTL had almost ASB/ Europa Universalis comeback powers. They suffer defeats in the heart of they territory that no other state could endure what Rome endured, and survive and emerge victorious. Not even the Carthaginians. I feel there be a Secound Punic Wars, and if there is no Hannibal or someone without his genius, the Carthaginians will lose.
No odd ball or retro-future scenario out of me this time, but instead a few patches I have of various parts of the US grafted onto Asia with rivers and something approaching a proper longitudinal slant....
(I have zero clue how any of these would affect the environment. I'm guessing negatively.)
I figured I'd share these as I've wasted more than a little time on them, and if for whatever reason someone wants or needs something like this feel free to use them.
(I have zero clue how any of these would affect the environment. I'm guessing negatively.)
I figured I'd share these as I've wasted more than a little time on them, and if for whatever reason someone wants or needs something like this feel free to use them.
What? It's controlled by the shogunate which happens to have a similar colour.Such as the Scottish colony in Hokkaido?
but instead a few patches I have of various parts of the US grafted onto Asia with rivers and something approaching a proper longitudinal slant....
Those are interesting ideas, for example for an ISOT à la "Only Nixon can go to China". This happens in 1971, but mind that parts of Maoist China remain intact!
Yeah, I realized it while typing the replyIt was a joke because the colours look so similar.
I honesty don't think the November Revolution could have worked in Germany. In the end, it was a series of unrelated local uprisings. (The Kiel mutiny, the Spartacist fiasco in Berlin, the Communist coup in Bavaria later.) None of these had the backing of more than a small minority of the population and all were rapidly snuffed out. They was not organize, were splinter in countless fraction with no central leadership, and so on.
The majority of the German populace was decidedly centrist and supportive of authority, which made for tough going for Communist and reactionary alike.
I feel at the very best, socialist-revolutionary Germany would only last a few years, or even just a month.
I don't think the UK and the US would allow France control of the Rhineland. At the very least, they try and set up a Rhineland while the Americans British march on Hamburg and Berlin to stop the Reds.
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