Should the President be able to be re-elected in consecutive terms?

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    Votes: 24 96.0%
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The Confederacy is dead, the gentlemen in blue have but come to put the spasming corpse in its grave.

I expect now it will be utter collapse. The question is who will follow Quantrill the False Governor in defiance to death, surrender and hope for mercy and protection from the likes of Sherman or Harris, and who will flee?

The Tribes in the West are in for dark times. The Americans are out for blood and they will be called on for even less restraint punishing what will be seen as a uprising. Texas is in no position to help, and will they even allow refuge for tribes that supported the Confederacy or see them as little better than the Apache?

The wars might end but the bloodshed is far from done.
 
The Confederacy is dead, the gentlemen in blue have but come to put the spasming corpse in its grave.

I expect now it will be utter collapse. The question is who will follow Quantrill the False Governor in defiance to death, surrender and hope for mercy and protection from the likes of Sherman or Harris, and who will flee?

The Tribes in the West are in for dark times. The Americans are out for blood and they will be called on for even less restraint punishing what will be seen as a uprising. Texas is in no position to help, and will they even allow refuge for tribes that supported the Confederacy or see them as little better than the Apache?

The wars might end but the bloodshed is far from done.

I'll get into full detail of the Indian Wars that take place in America in the next couple of decades, though the tribes west of Nebraska may not suffer as much thanks to Washington's up til now limited investment in the region which may give them time to prepare for the worst and by that time the Feds may not be interested in land redistribution anymore. But the tribes in Oklahoma are definitely screwed for what is seen as treason. Texas would generally allow for the admittance of refugee tribes from Oklahoma after the Civil War, which will be a point of heavy contention between Washington and Austin. These are the Civilized Tribes after all so they would be so much better to the Apache in comparison. As part of the Southern Exodus though there will be general mistrust to Indians who came from Oklahoma and fought for the Confederacy. One example of this would be the Cherokee tribe in Texas who have been one of the more successful stories. The Cherokee don't want to fuck up their current deal that they have with Austin and the arrival of their cousins form America will start to create some mistrust and suspicion towards them from the whites and other tribes. So the Texan Cherokee would basically tell the Americans to get into line and do whatever they say or else they'll throw them to the Comanche. Leading to some social division between the two halves of the nation.
 
Chapter 89 Twilight of the Mexican War
Chapter 89 Twilight of the Mexican War

"Beinto Juarez may call me an autocrat yet his regime in Mexico is a democracy in name only. At the end of the day the difference between me and Benito is simple. I finish wars, he can't."- Supreme Protector Andres de Santa Cruz 1864
"While the Americas may have been a fruitful experience, they have become far too costly and do not grant us the prestige of an empire. It is time to shift focus to the East."- Emperor Napoleon III 1863
"We may have stopped the Mexicans from taking our land, but what's to stop them from trying again?"- Lieutenant General William Barrett Travis 1863

When the Mexican War began many people on both sides had thought that the conflict would take months or a year at most. While seemingly short-sighted today, this mindset is rather believable in context due to the nature of Post-Napoleonic War which saw conflicts range to two or three years at the most and engagements being quick and decisive, with the peace terms often meaning radical changes either territoriality or in the change of political power within the combatants. In the beginning the Mexicans thought that they would have their revenge, while the Texans and Yucatani sought to rid the world of Mexico for good, hoping that a loss would mean the end of the state for good. Neither side would get what they want. By the beginning of 1863 with almost two years end, both sides were unable to come to a decisive victory with the odds seeming to look worse each day. The war became unpopular among tens of thousands in all three nations and there were no clear tides of battle besides Texas managing to defend their borders completely. The real reason why the Mexican war would end in 1863 would not be due to the fighting spirits of each nation, rather due to the impossibilities for total victory on each side.

For Mexico to have come so far and be able to see the amount of success it did in the Mexican War is a true testament to Juarez's leadership and the rapid transformation the Mexican Army had undergone in the past decade. Before the war the prospect of a Mexican victory in any sort of battle against a foreign power was laughable at best. Yet two years into the war and they had conquered the majority of the Republic of the Rio Grande and had managed to make incursions into California and Western Yucatan. While they had been pushed back on both fronts, Mexico still managed to obtain a number of victories over their foes and made sure that each mile lost would be payed with blood. However behind the mask of glory and prestige that the Juarez regime liked to portray to the people of Mexico, the situation was far from good. Only nine years ago Mexico had been in the midst of a bloody civil war that would have seen the complete destruction of the country if it weren't for the efforts of Juarez. Despite the best efforts of the President, Juarez could not undo 30 years of incompetence and corruption in Mexico's ruling leadership. The economy had been growing rapidly in 1860, but that was only thanks to heavy British investment and Mexico was far below other hemispherical powers such as Brazil and Peru-Bolivia. The war only worsened these conditions as Mexico would come to lose tens of thousands of able manpower in a nation that was little more than 6 million. The Texan blockade had a horrible effect on the Mexican economy as a majority of Mexican exports were now unable to reach foreign markets with Mexican ships either sunk or boarded. The Pacific was barely an alternative thanks to nonexistent trade routes with most Pacific trade being directed to California and South America unwilling to trade with Mexico. With land travel being blocked off due to Texas in the north and the Yucatan in the South, Mexico could barely perform trade and the northern and southern states would once more fall into ruin with the battles that took place. Whatever standing Mexico had left in the international community was also at its worst. The Battle of Tampico caused relations with the French Empire to cease entirely with Napoleon's involvement in the war and turned potential benefactors away due to the brutality that had been spread of Tampico and the zealous actions of Mexican troops in the Rio Grande and the Yucatan. The other major powers had no desire to help Mexico with Russia, Germany, the Ottomans, and Spain not having any vested interests. Italy would become hostile to Mexico due to Juarez's secularization policy and his attacks against the power of the Catholic Church in the region, Texas and the Yucatan were also Catholic majority nations so there was no desire for an intervention based on religion. Great Britain was the only one that was friendly to the Juarez regime but aid had ceased almost altogether in the war thanks to British investments in the Confederacy and the ongoing Opium War. Aside from the diplomatic front, the military situation was getting worse every day with numerous setbacks in the fall of 1862 and Texas and Yucatan making gains every day. While both countries would not be able to waltz into Mexico City, they could not be beaten back either. In the start of 1863 Juarez ordered his generals to hold to every piece of Mexican land that they could and give hell to the rebels. Behind the facade the President knew that a total victory could not be obtained and peace had to be achieved now under the best conditions. Juarez would send feelers to multiple nations abroad in search of a peace agreement.

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A Tejano mural meant to villify Juarez as building his accomplishments on the bodies of his enemies.

In regards to both the Republics of Texas and the Yucatan, the Mexican War was a rude wake up call which helped to push the two nations into maturity. While these two countries were nowhere near Great powers in the first 25 years of their existence, their development gave off an air of invincibility which lead to a heavy hubris. Texas had been the one to start the Revolutions which would see Mexico's downfall as a rising power and it was quickly becoming a North American maverick with its rapidly growing economy and overall population growth from a backwater country to a nation on par with some European countries as Sweden and Hungary. The Yucatan had a massive expansionist streak which saw itself become the protector of the Mayan tradition and virtual ruler of Central America. Unfortunately this tradition of growth and success would come to hinder the two in the beginnings of the war and were not enough to allow them to finish it. Had this been a war between the United States and Mexico then Mexico would have surely fallen due to the sheer industrial might of America. Texas and the Yucatan were anything but. The only areas in both nations of considerable industrial strength were California, Eastern Texas, and the Yucatan Peninsula. The early defeats in the war were devastating with the imprisonment of nearly 35,000 troops and a tens of thousands of casualties on both sides. Southern California and the Western half of the Yucatan were devastated and desperately needed reconstruction. But what impaired the two countries above all else was the population game. Against Mexico's 6 million, Texas and the Yucatan had only 4.5 million between the two. Estimates by historians place that the Southwestern alliance would've needed at least 450,000 troops to occupy all of Mexico. The fact that their enemy was so underdeveloped actually worked against their favor as as they could not live off the land and support an occupation. Finally there is the nature of the Mexican people. In the First Mexican Civil War and the Border Wars, the Mexican people were weak and scared under the leadership of corrupt politicians that had little idea on how to run a proper war. Under the Juarez regime the Mexicans had a Nationalistic fury to fulfill their Vengan lust for the lost land. Even when the tides were turned in the late fall of 1862, overall morale in Mexico barely dropped and tens of thousands, along with the general civilian population, marched happily to the tune of El Presidente. It was becoming quite clear to the Seguin and Peraza administrations that while they could obtain some victory from the war, they could not "win" like in the last two. Communication between Austin and Merida across the Gulf became frequent in 1863 over just what to do for the end of the war. The economies of each nation were being pushed to the brink and a final solution was needed fast. Between Seguin and Peraza it was generally agreed that they would do the best they could by the summer and if possible reach for a truce.

In stark contrast to the dynamic campiagns waged on the Texan-Mexican border in 1862, the remaining months in 1863 leading to the Treaty of Havana was quite dull in comparison. While the front was not quiet it would remain static due to the stretching of the supply lines on both sides and limitations on realistic goals. On the Western front some minor excursions from California would be made into Sonora, though these were more to paralyze the state and prevent the possibility of another invasion rather than a full occupation. Entire border towns would be wiped off the map with the destruction of their crops and any infrastructure which the Mexicans could use to support their army. Plans were drawn for a potential invasion of Hermosillo or Guayamas, however these were canned as soon as word had arrived of the peace treaty. In Coahuila the Texans were stuck between a rock and a hard place. This was mainly due to the hostility of the Mexican population which required the regiments to be spread out, along with the defending of the borders from Mexican incursions. Major General Phillipe Castanzo who had become hated among the Texans with sheer vile thanks to El Paso, took overall command of the region and led several successful attacks on Texan supply lines which deprived the invaders of much needed munitions while providing relief to the Mexicans. Two major battles took place in 1863 with the Battles of Monterrey (Nuevo Leon) and Saltillo. Both battles were attempts by the Mexicans and Texans to take over neighboring major cities on both sides and make an advancement. Unfortunately for the attackers in the dual cases, it was a victory for the defenders. Saltillo, which took place on March 8th, was a Texan victory due in large part to the Texans cavalry outnumbering the Mexicans 3 to 1 and the Mexicans having been caought in a pincer movement when pushing through the city, though they were able to escape. Monterrey, which took place on April 4th, was a Mexican victory thanks to the near unanimous support from the local population to erect defenses and join the fight against the Texans which gave the Mexicans a numerical advantage and hold the Texans at the gates, the Mexicans only incurring heavy losses thanks to artillery fire. While Travis had been stopped in his objective from liberating the rest of the Rio Grande, his actions were able to save Coahuila from Mexican annexation and deny them the whole victory of annexing the Rio Grande Republic. Coahuila's Texan occupation would be a sore point for Mexicans many years after the war and add to the Texans the satisfaction of having secured the borders of the original Texan colony.

Down south the situation was far worse for the Yucatan. While they had been able to liberate the states of Yucatan proper along with the state of Tabasco, Chiapas remained very much a quagmire. With the ethnic genocide committed against the Mayans the Yucatan had nearly no allies within their state and the frequent burnings and destruction of the rainforests would impede any army movement. Suggestions were made for a possible sea invasion, though these were ludicrous due to the fact that the Yucatan had only 3 Pacific ships and Texas had their Pacific squadron focused on the northern Mexican states. In the spring of 1863 two final offensives were launched with the primary targets being Tapachula and Comitan. The battle of Tapachula took place on February 16th with Yucatan Major General Salvador Terrano leading 8,500 men against the cities defenders of 5,000. The Yucatan were able to take the city with their superior usage of artillery thanks to them having 40 units versus the Mexicans sole 12 units of artillery and the majority of the defenders being infantry, unable to effectiely escape thanks to the cavalry cutting them down on the roads. Comitan was the exact opposite thanks to Pancho Morales making the environment a living hell for the attackers. Traps were laid all throughout the jungle with little regard to where the Yucatan would attack, instead targeting all possible avenues. The dirt roads that lead to the city were blocked off with timber obstructions and Yucatan camps would reguarly be torched by raider units of the Republican Guard, a dangerous prospect in the jungle. With regular sneak attacks by infantry companies, the Yucatan under Brigadier General Enrique Martinez to retreat to the Yucatan borders. Unfortunately for the Mexicans they would not be able to replicate their success up north against the combined French and Yucatan units under Ignacio Rojas and Achile Bazaine. The Veracruz front would be where the Yucatan put the most effort with 20,000 men alongside the french 18,000; leading to 38,000 against the 20,000 of Mexico. The race to Veracruz as it would become known would see the combined armies race to the port of Veracruz to claim Mexico's major oceanhub and largest city on the Gulf. The Yucatan juggernaut seemed unstoppable with Coatzacoalcos falling on February 26th and Minatitlan falling on March 2nd. The final major battle of the war would be the Battle of Veracruz which would become the bloodiest battle of the war as well. Rojas marched into the city with 30,000 to faced off against Ignacio Zaragoza with 18,000. The odds were against Zaragoza as he was outnumbered with the Yucatan having more artillery and the complete support of the Texan navy who were ordered to come to the city and aid in the capture. Still the "Hero of Tampico" would not relent and would see that it be defended to the last man. Veracruz would be fought for three days from April 5th-7th and see the city nearly get torn apart. The harbor and all coastal constructions were ruined by the Texan ships who laid waste to any place that the Mexicans might provide. The Yucatan would systematically bombard the Mexican positions with near perfect coordination and lead dozens of charges against the defenses. Zaragoza would lead at the front of the battle lines and hold the Mexicans in the trenches, each foot having to be earned with blood. By dawn on the 7th the Yucatan were a 1/3rd into the city. The battle would become lost near midday when Zaragoza would be shot in the head by an unknown sniper, falling with sabre in hand. The Mexican defenders which had fought with every last ounce of strength until then, lost the will to continue and many would retreat west. The battle of Veracruz would be extremely bloody with the Mexicans losing 7,234 killed, 3,408 wounded, and 2,955 taken prisoner. The Yucatan would suffer 6,109 killed, 2,537 wounded, and 1,444 taken prisoner. French losses were relatively light in comparison with 720 killed, 386 wounded, and 502 taken prisoner. Veracruz would come to be a bloody stain for the Mexicans as word of their loss would reach the delegates in Cuba before negotiations began, forcing them into a hard place as they wanted to achieve total victory, but had to make a peace or risk eventual destruction.

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Battle of Veracruz (Left). Yucatan Army advancing into Chiapas (Right)
 
Well, the Mexican War is near its end; wonder how the treaty will work out.

As for the Confederacy, the fat lady is starting to test her voice and clear her throat before singing, as it were...
 
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Incredible update, and I'm glad to see the war is winding down. At this point I am really wondering what Rio Grande's fate is going to end up being? I guess we'll find out soon.
 
Incredible update, and I'm glad to see the war is winding down. At this point I am really wondering what Rio Grande's fate is going to end up being? I guess we'll find out soon.

Partition between Texas and Mexico I expect.

Veracruz falling is bad. After all the war crimes from both sides in the south I imagine it was a nightmare fir the civilians. Also It could leverage Yucatan into regaining Chiapas. With the fairly successful anti-Mayan pogrom there I expect a virtual race war to breakout again if Merida's rule returns to that state now.

Mexico will not get wat it wants, but it will come out stronger than it started I expect. And Texas will grow with it slice of the Rio Grande. And both republics will be taking steps to ensure Mexico never ever puts them in such a position again. This peace will bring no reconciliation.
 
Chapter 90 Downfall of the Confederacy
Chapter 90 Downfall of the Confederacy

"I would rather be remembered as a one term president with no accomplishments than a President who lead his nation to victory in a civil war. For by going through one we have failed our forefathers."- President Abraham Lincoln 1868
"You can't sympathize with a traitor. They have no one to blame but themselves for this destruction."- Lieutenant General William Tecumseh Sherman 1863
"Ladies and gentlemen, at this moment our sacred party is crooked to the core. The Democrats in Washington who you voted for and claim to represent your interests, don't give a damn about your well being. For seventy years the South has languished in an endless cycle of poverty and neglect, all the while the elite aristocrats grow more rich and powerful. While the rest of the country has entered into the 20th century, we have become trapped in a fantasy of the days before Lincoln. The great President William Jennings Bryan, bless his soul, attempted to change all that and transform the Democrats as a party meant to serve the people. Yet when Roosevelt and the Progressives came in the establishment took back the reigns of power and stuck to their reactionary lunacy. We need change! If you want to end the suffering that generations of good southerners have endured, then rise up and kick the inbreed fat cats out of office. Down with the Establishment! For every man shall be a King!"- President Huey Long 1934


Alabama:
Civil war historians in the past have given much praise to Richard Taylor for making the best of the terrible situation and earning the Confederacy the few victories that it could in the closing months of the war. Unfortunately for Alabama, these setbacks against Grant would be but a minor annoyance in the grand scheme of things. In the west Mississippi had fallen under the wrath of Sherman, allowing him and his 90,000 men to head due east for the capitol of Montgomery. Joining him was Rosecrans and the army of the Mississippi while the Marines made their way from the south, having destroyed what tiny Confederate naval presence was left in the war. Desertions started to become common in the war as men from states outside of Alabama would leave to return to their homes under Union occupation, trying desperately to salvage what was left of their lives. Not wanting to give the capitol to the enemy without a clear fight, Taylor managed to scrap together 35,000 men; virtually the entirety of the Confederate forces in the Gulf made up of Alabamans and diehard Confederate patriots. Taylor hoped to make this his last stand and end his career with honor. Wanting to make sure absolutely no mistakes were made, Grant would wait for Sherman to combine his forces with his; the grand total would reach to an army of nearly 200,000; the largest ever assembled force for one battle. The battle of Montgomery would begin on February 11th and would last for an entire week. Under the advice of Sherman, Grant would spend seven days pounding the capitol into dust with the artillery companies which now consisted of over 500 batteries. The purpose of this would be to obliterate whatever defenses that Taylor had set up and demoralize the Confederates to the point where they wouldn't raise a rifle. On February 18th the Union infantry began a mass charge towards the city. The soldiers who fought in the battle waged war with a near berserk like attitude. For the Confederates it was a sacrifice for their dying cause and one last blow to the Yankees. For the Union it was vengeance for all the lives so far and for Montgomery starting the rebellion. Eventually the Confederates gave way as the bravery of the Southerners could not stand to the sheer human waves of the Union army. Fighting generally stopped around 7:00 P.M after Union forces put the stars and stripes above the statehouse. Richard Taylor would surrender his forces late that night and thus ended any resistance in Alabama. Casualties were high for the Confederates with 10,345 killed, 5,678 wounded, and the rest taken prisoner. Union forces took 4,116 killed, and 3,889 wounded. Grant and Sherman would spend the next three weeks securing Alabama, and then march east towards Georgia.

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Confederate soldiers put up a desperate last stand in the Battle of Montgomery


South Carolina:
With the capture of Charleston by Stonewall Jackson in late December, morale within South Carolina virtually collapsed. While the capitol of South Carolina was in Columbia, Charleston was the true heart of the state and was an important symbol to the Confederacy for Fort Sumter. When word spread that the birth of the rebellion had been captured by the Yankees, most South Carolinans lost faith in the war and virtually gave up. The only battle that took place in the state was the Battle of Columbia, an affair that was more a small skirmish between Hooker's cavalry and the cities defenders before the arrival of Hooker's main force that would see Governor Milledge Bonham surrender. For the remainder of the war, Jospeph Hooker would spend his time securing the state while Jackson headed further south along the coast with the goal of reaching Florida. On March 27th the city of Savannah, Georgia surrendered to Jackson which now completed the Anaconda blockade that had been set up in place. Jackson was about to head west in April to link up with Lee, until news of the Atlanta riots had spread.

Georgia:
The arrival of the Confederate government in the city of Atlanta, Georgia had shocked the inhabitants. While the war had been on the losing side for several months, Georgia had been virtually untouched besides some minor skirmishes on the borders. The people of Georgia had faith that their favored son Robert Toombs would find a way to lead them to victory. The truth of the matter was that a victory was impossible at this point. The Toombs administration had been trying desperately to find foreign support for their war as an intervention by a European power was seen as the only way out of the situation. Overtures had been made to every nation on the European continent, but almost all were uninterested. Whatever chances the Confederacy had for an ally had been killed with the Emancipation proclamation. Britain came dangerously close to propping up Montgomery as many of the British upper-class were still desiring revenge against the states for Oregon. Plans for invasion were drawn up in a series of operations called "Plan Roanoke," a military strategy where the Royal Navy would destroy the Union blockade and a military expedition of 300,000 British regulars would join the front lines and push the Union back to the starting lines of the war. Operations were set for 1863, but these would be scraped in the fall of 1862 with continuous Confederate losses disillusioning Victoria of the prospect of British intervention, coupled further with the beginning of the Austria crisis. Nothing short of time travelers from the future could save the Confederacy at this point. With word spreading of the loss of Charleston, Montgomery, Mobile, and Savannah, the people of Atlanta became restless and sick of the war. On March 26th, 1863; the fall of the Confederacy would be set in stone on a bright sunny afternoon when Robert Toombs stood in front of the Statehouse to give medals to valiant Confederate soldiers. As the ceremony drowned on, Toombs would make numerous speeches about how the Confederacy would fight to the bitter end and that victory was assured. Toombs' words only agitated the crowd with boos and jeerings rising in the speech. The climax of the affair came when a young Atlanta women named Susan O'Hare, got on stage in tears due to the death of her husband weeks before in the fighting. Susan openly berated the President, calling him a fool for starting the war with nothing to show for it. In her grief Mrs. O'Hare would assault the president. A Confederate soldier onstage, whose name is lost to history, tried to save the President by shooting Mrs. O'Hare. The shot was bloody as it went into the young woman's head and caused her bits of her brain to spill, out, herself falling off the stage and forming a bloody pile. Seeing such a young women die in front of them in the grief of her lost loved one, the citizens of Atlanta had enough and started storming the Statehouse in a fury. The entire building would be looted in less than an hour as bureaucrats and politicians were mowed down for them being perceived as losing the war. For reasons unknown a fire would break out in the statehouse, the mob would leave after smoke had risen, spreading word of the actions to the rest of the city. The Atlanta riots would begin.

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The burning of Atlanta (Left). Union troops rush to save the city (Right)

The storming of the Statehouse would be the spark that lit the fuse as the entire city began to descend into anarchy. Looters would target the bakeries, farmer's market, anywhere that would give them the food that they desperately needed. Old grudges were taken out in the fighting, and the state militia that had sworn to protect the peace, would turn on their officers and either desert or join the looting. The worst victims of the riots were the slave population of Atlanta as the populace blamed their problems on them for the start of the war and the losses that had been daily since the Emancipation proclamation. Lynches would be frequent as blacks would be hung on the nearest lamposts or trees for the simple crime of having dark skin. Female slaves would be raped or brutally murdered, many children being forced to watch. Churches were torn down, hospitals raided for supplies, banks were robbed for their gold, none were safe. The fire that had started in the statehouse would spread over the next few days and would claim as much as 40% of the city. The city that was once the pride of the South, was now imploding. Refugees would escape outside the metropolitan area and spread word of the carnage over the coming days. General Lee and his army would be the first Union forces to arrive on the 5th. Lee was said to have shed a tear at the sight of the city, himself being quoted, "God has left Atlanta. For there would be no reason that the Lord could ever allow this to happen." The Union forces would be quick to restore order to the city of anarchy, shooting any rioters on sight. Virtually no mercy was given to the looters for the sight of dead bodies and destroyed buildings was too much for the Union forces to feel any sympathy for the men. What little of the citizens that were left wept at the sight of the blue uniforms who they would've scorned just weeks earlier, for it was thanks to these Yankees that their lives would be saved. Over the next week 113 trials would take place over the affairs that occurred, only 4 would be found innocent while the rest would die by firing squad. Lee attempted to find what was left of the Confederate government to settle a peace deal, but most of Congress was either dead or fled outside of the city in desertion. Toombs' body was nowhere near to be found and most simply presumed him having been killed in the riots. On April 12th, exactly two years to the start of the war, Vice President Jefferson Davis would be found among the refugees, the man having hid within the city for days due to fear of being killed by the angry mob. With Toombs presumed dead, Davis was officially the President of the Confederate States of America. In the late afternoon, Davis would be escorted into the Atlanta courthouse which miraculously survived the riots. There Davis would take the Oath of office for the Presidency, only to sign its unconditional surrender minutes later to Generals Lee and Grant, the latter having arrived two days prior. With the stroke of a pen, the American Civil War was over.

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Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant shake hands in the aftermath of Davis signing the Confederacy's unconditional surrender


A/N: For those of you extremely confused about Huey Long's quote, that is meant to reveal the state of the South in the early 20th century and how Long is going to change all of that. Now Long is not defecting and forming a third party, rather he is leading the "Long Revolution" and kicking out the Dixiecrats and Eastern establishment in favor of the Populists who adhere to the ideals of Bryan and Long. More will be revealed on this in the future, particularly with American politics before and after the Great War.

Next chapter will be the Treaty of Havana and Chapter 91 will be the immediate aftermath of the Civil War. Following that we turn our attentions to Europe for one or two chapters. Thanks for reading and stay tuned for more!
 
Nothing short of time travelers from the future could save the Confederacy at this point.
I think I know what you are referencing here. I'm guessing a similar book exists in TTL as well?
"God has left Atlanta. For there would be no reason that the Lord could ever allow this to happen."
Given what happened in Atalnta before Lee showed up and after you aren't going to find many who'll say he was off the mark.
With Toombs presumed dead, Davis was officially the President of the Confederate States of America. In the late afternoon, Davis would be escorted into the Atlanta courthouse which miraculously survived the riots. There Davis would take the Oath of office for the Presidency, only to sign its unconditional surrender minutes later to Generals Lee and Grant, the latter having arrived two days prior. With the stroke of a pen, the American Civil War was over.
Glad to see that the Confederate Government has given up and that for the most part the war is over. Shorter and hopefully less deadly than OTL, but still a tragedy. Hopefully Toombs is captured (if he is alive), and the whole rotten mess is confined to the history books.

Anywho a wonderful update.
 
The William Sherman quote sounds like something he'd say, IMO; he mastered in giving these statements to the South IOTL (ironically, he also said that "War is hell" and asked a graduating class at West Point not to go to war). Here's a speech of his from OTL, which was not a boast, it was a prediction:
You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared - and with a bad cause to start with.

Yeah, Sherman was a ruthless badass...

Toombs will pop up again, methinks...
 
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I think I know what you are referencing here. I'm guessing a similar book exists in TTL as well?

Given what happened in Atalnta before Lee showed up and after you aren't going to find many who'll say he was off the mark.

Glad to see that the Confederate Government has given up and that for the most part the war is over. Shorter and hopefully less deadly than OTL, but still a tragedy. Hopefully Toombs is captured (if he is alive), and the whole rotten mess is confined to the history books.

Anywho a wonderful update.

It's more than likely that Guns of the South could exist in this world, and yes that sentence was a subtle reference to the novel. As part of my planned culture for the world of the Lone Star Republic, Alternate History has risen to become a semi-mainstream genre and within it exists a whole sub-genre dedicated to time travelers and ASB events.

Toombs fate will be addressed soon. For now though there won't be any Southern rebellions or like in the future.

The William Sherman quote sounds like something he'd say, IMO; he mastered in giving these statements to the South IOTL (ironically, he also said that "War is hell" and asked a graduating class at West Point not to go to war). Here's a speech of his from OTL, which was not a boast, it was a prediction:
You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared - and with a bad cause to start with.

Yeah, Sherman was a ruthless badass...

Toombs will pop up again, methinks...

Sherman is more or less the same as his OTL self. When researching for Stars and Stripes, I was actually amazed by how much Harry Harrison made Sherman into a virtual OC with him becoming the hero of the South and being entirely willing to help Beauregard push the British out with no benefits to himself whatsoever.
 
And so it ends.

The Confederate Army had its last stand defending Montgomery and the Confederate Government fell in Atlanta at the hands of the Southern people.

I could see a famous painting ITTL "Lee's Entrance to Atlanta" depicting the Blue Clad general at the head of cavalry entering the desolate urbanscape with the concussed looking former rebels looking on, sun at his back and tattered Confederate flags on the ground before his white stallion.

Considering Toomb's last official event as CS president ended with a white woman being gunned down, I expect there won't be that many pushes to erect statues or such to him.

So while Lee hung criminals from the riots now the question comes on what to do with Davis and other rebel politicians and military staff captured.

And Toombs is currently written off as rotting in a ditch unmourned by both the Unionists he opposed and the Rebels he failed. Though undoubtedly he will have his boosters still. And he is still alive. I am guessing he will turn up in Spanish Cuba. Possibly discovered as part of a Spanish-American War; or discovering he is hiding there will ignite such a war.

And it looks like Lincoln lives longer here, good for him. Which also raises questions on how reconstruction will go.
 
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Yeah, Toombs is about as popular as Mad King Aerys was at the end of Robert's Rebellion; even Benedict Arnold will be more popular than he will be, methinks...
 
Can one hope for justice for the murdered slaves? Matters were quite confused and there was so much guilt to inspire covering for others.

And the North American Wars end. Though it occurs to me the Indian Territory and the Apache may still fight for some time.
 
And so it ends.

The Confederate Army had its last stand defending Montgomery and the Confederate Government fell in Atlanta at the hands of the Southern people.

I could see a famous painting ITTL "Lee's Entrance to Atlanta" depicting the Blue Clad general at the head of cavalry entering the desolate urbanscape with the concussed looking former rebels looking on, sun at his back and tattered Confederate flags on the ground before his white stallion.

Considering Toomb's last official event as CS president ended with a white woman being gunned down, I expect there won't be that many pushes to erect statues or such to him.

So while Lee hung criminals from the riots now the question comes on what to do with Davis and other rebel politicians and military staff captured.

And Toombs is currently written off as rotting in a ditch unmourned by both the Unionists he opposed and the Rebels he failed. Though undoubtedly he will have his boosters still. And he is still alive. I am guessing he will turn up in Spanish Cuba. Possibly discovered as part of a Spanish-American War; or discovering he is hiding there will ignite such a war.

And it looks like Lincoln lives longer here, good for him. Which also raises questions on how reconstruction will go.

The next American update will feature the fate of the Confederacy's generals and politicians. A good number of them will be pardoned by Lincoln to try and help ease reconstruction, though some will have to face trials for their crimes in the war. Nathaniel Bedford Forrest is one of them so he won't become the Grand Wizard of the KKK.

Toombs fate will also be revealed soon.

Reconstruction will certainly go better TTL, but even Lincoln will want to have a slightly harsher hand for the crimes of the South. With the Bahamas becoming a black state, Virginia remaining loyalist, and East Tennessee, then the burden won't be as high. However many southerners will still be dissatisfied, which begins the Southern Exodus.

Can one hope for justice for the murdered slaves? Matters were quite confused and there was so much guilt to inspire covering for others.

And the North American Wars end. Though it occurs to me the Indian Territory and the Apache may still fight for some time.

Lee is going to try his best but it's going to be a mess since most of the cities inhabitants fled in the riots and the whites remaining won't want to be cooperative with the Union soldiers on the matter. At the very least any future victims will receive their due justice.

The Indian wars are going to go at least to the 1880's, the overall end though is better than OTL, especially in Texas.
 
Reconstruction will certainly go better TTL, but even Lincoln will want to have a slightly harsher hand for the crimes of the South. With the Bahamas becoming a black state, Virginia remaining loyalist, and East Tennessee, then the burden won't be as high. However many southerners will still be dissatisfied, which begins the Southern Exodus.
This exodus thing would seem to be a benefit for blacks and ensure the region stays Republican long-term.
 
Can one hope for justice for the murdered slaves? Matters were quite confused and there was so much guilt to inspire covering for others.

And the North American Wars end. Though it occurs to me the Indian Territory and the Apache may still fight for some time.
Think also that it would exist a near generalized Revanchist feeling amongst the Union of make a clear example to the Indians of the price of Treason against the Union. As such the Indian Territory may hold for a bit more, but its highly probable that General Lee will smartly, send either Grant, or if he isn't feeling merciful, SHERMAN, at the helm of from 40000, to 80000 veteran Troops gathered from other fronts of the now ended Civil War, Artilliery and other weapons in addition to the existent troops in the region, with the succint order to END the insurrection, strip the Indians of all means to keep fighting, or if they keep fighting, kill them until someone alive has the damn sense to surrender.

Its the most likely path to happen here, as the Union would likely want to nip in the bud for good the Indian matter, and having an extensive amount of veteran troops still available, cavalry, Artillery and the supplies, added to have the unanimous support to enact whatever action needed, would result in either a total surrender, or the Indian tribes that tried to fight back, butchered as they were exposed to the evolved style of Warfare of the US Army added to an overwhelming number and tech disadvantage.

About the Southern Exodus, its possible that WON'T happen here, or it will be towards other region of the world. Texas closed the door to the slavery issue quietly and for good, and their indian Citizens would certainly frown to attempt to take root in THEIR lands. Mexico its still in a tense state post War, and France its focused in support the Yucatan Republic as a point of influence in the region. Add that both Mexico and Yucatan outlawed Slavery, in addition that the mexicans would see the Confeds as an even WORSE kind of "Gringo", the kind that they would shoot in principle.
 
I fail to see how the remaining Tribes in the USA will get a better deal. Their actions in Kansas ITTL associated the Confederate atrocities would generate more hate. And the shorter Civil War likely means the American government is willing to use more resources quicker to crush them. Frankly I see no reason anti Native sentiment will die down quicker ITTL in the USA, the situation in Texas is too easily handwaved away with greed and bigotry driving the conflict. in Texas things got moving due to Houtson and the relative weakness of Texas and the need to make friends where they could unlike OTL.
 
And a lot of those Tribes will flee to Texas, one way or the other; the Indian territory isn't going to be a nice place to live for the Indians...
 
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