Italy 1936 - An alternate Italian history of World War II

This timeline is a “what if,” on what if Mussolini was a smarter, shrewder politician in the realm of international relations from 1936 onwards. The point of divergence is the conquest of Ethiopia by Italian forces on May 5th 1936.

This is the first part of a completed timeline which was originally posted on my forum and then later on changingthetimes.net. I will be posting all the parts here over the next few days but if you absolutely can't wait to read the rest(or its sequel) feel free to go to one of those two sites. Thanks and enjoy!

Part 1

May 5th 1936

In Rome Mussolini, Victor Emanuel III and the Grand Council of Fascism are pleased with the success of the invasion of Ethiopia and the formation of Italian East Africa. However this war has left a bitter taste in the mouths of the western powers and has left Italy diplomatically isolated. There is also Hitler’s Germany a politically similar regime that is rapidly gaining power, but Mussolini does not trust the Austrian artist.

Mussolini decides on a dangerous course he will attempt to forge closer relations with both parties secretly and see which side will offer him the best deals.

May 15th 1936

Count Ciano the foreign minister of Italy and son in law to Il Duce begins a diplomatic blitz with France and the United Kingdom trying to drum up support for the Ethiopian war. Ciano even goes as far to offer both France and Britain reduced prices on any exports produced from the Ethiopian colony.

June 30th 1936

Haile Selassie the former Emperor of Ethiopia speaks in front of the League of Nations and delivers a scathing speech against the blind Imperialism of the Italian Empire and warning “It is us today, It will be you tomorrow.” His warning falls largely on deaf ears as Britain and France though still displeased with the actions of Italy see possible gain from it.

The League of Nations votes to condemn the attack but offers no sanctions in effect basically letting Italy off the hook.

* Note: I believe that with the lackluster sanctions placed in OTL without any damage control efforts by Mussolini that in this timeline there will be even less desire to for sanctions since Italy has attempted to smooth things over.*

July 1936

The Spanish civil war starts with Francesco Franco attacking mainland Spain from bases in Africa. By the end of the month Italy(and Germany) begins supplying Franco’s nationalists with supplies and volunteers against the Republicans.

This action has once again hurt the international image of Italy to the western powers and Ciano is again sent on a tour of nations to attempt to rectify it. This time however it is much less successful with Italy currently out of any bargaining chips.

August 1936

Despite the economic strain of both the Spanish Civil War and the recurring costs from the Ethiopian campaign Mussolini orders the construction of two railroads in Italian Africa. The first being an east west railway in Libya linking the major cities. The second is a railway linking the major cities of Italian East Africa. They are expected to be completed within two years.

October 25th 1936

Mussolini meets secretly with Hitler and they agree to aid each other in secret. Hitler at first insists that any alliance be a public one but Mussolini holds firm and insists that Italian interests can not allow such a public display. Hitler’s hand is also forced on a technology exchange between Italy and Germany. Mussolini specifically requests German engineers to aid in the construction of synthetic oil plants within Italy. As a concession Italy shall sell a large percentage of the oil(around 40%) to Germany at a reduced rate.

A few German military officers are also sent to Italy to instruct Italian officers and NCO’s in new training measures and drills.

December 1936

The construction on the first of four synthetic oil plants begin.

July 1937

The first Synthetic Oil Plant comes online with an initial production output of 10% of its full capacity. Over the next six months it will gradually work towards full production and begin research on its own methods for oil production. The second plant is currently 50% of the way to completion and the remaining two are 25%.

The German advisors have trained a core base of Italian NCO’s and officers who will go on to train the Italian army as a whole.

September 1937

Through constant diplomacy and agreements for future economic benefits with the sale of cheap oil the relations with Britain and France are once against returned to “normalcy” the governments of both nations are still wary of Italian aggression but they have their own problems to be concerned with at this time.

November 11th 1937

Mussolini issues a proclamation asking that all true Italians who emigrated overseas to return to Italy(or one of its colonies,) and work towards making the land of their ancestors great. Incentives of free housing and jobs are offered to those who chose to return home. Mussolini is hoping that the influx of foreign more valuable money into the Italian economy will help keep everything trotting along until more viable sources of income can come online fully(i.e. the oil plants.)

March 12th 1938

Anschluss occurs in Austria. Italy neither condemns or offers praise to Germany officially but Mussolini secretly gave his consent to Hitler for the annexation(Mussolini originally opposed Hitler’s first attempt.) Hitler in a state of joy for the smooth turnover of power is heard to remark in a staff meeting “Tell Mussolini I will never forget him for this...never, never, never, never...”

Though the call for all true Italians to return to Italy was issued months before very few of the millions of emigrants or their children have returned. Only a few thousand have made their way back to Italy.

September 30th 1938

The Munich agreement is signed between Great Britain and Germany giving Germany control of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia. Prime Minister Chamberlain gives his speech of “Peace for our time...”

December 1938

Enrico Fermi, Italian physicist wins the Nobel Prize. He praises Mussolini and the Grand Council for the funding he received while working in Rome and returns home to parades and other publicity events.

*Note: It may seem strange that I have Fermi return to Italy but so far in this timeline there is no reason for Fermi to defect to the United States. Historically he left Italy because of the enaction of anti Semitic laws since his wife was Jewish. Without those laws and without close public ties to Hitler, Fermi has no reason to uproot himself.*

January 1st 1939

For the most part the construction of two railways in Africa are complete and in Ethiopia mining and other economically strengthening activities have begun. The synthetic oil plants are nearly running at full production and plans are made to expand the number to six by 1941. Mussolini enacts a program to grant licenses for mining and logging rights to Italian corporations to increase production of raw materials.

March 1939

Hitler invades and annexes the rest of Czechoslovakia.

Count Ciano is sent to Albania to give a set of extremely unreasonable demands to King Zog. Zog naturally turns down the offer and Rome gives an ultimatum to Zog to accept the terms by 12:00 PM April 6th.

Mussolini and Hitler have another secret meeting to discuss future relations. It is quite clear that Hitler is preparing for a war which Mussolini wants no part of, nor could Mussolini afford another war. They do agree to extend the terms of trade between Germany and Italy in secret. This trade will consist of only raw materials and generally untraceable goods to Germany in exchange for gold and technology schematics.

April 1st 1939

The Spanish Civil War ends in a victory for Franco and Italian troops which number over 37 thousand begin returning home. The war reveals defects in Italian military command that Mussolini orders to be corrected with all due haste.

April 7th 1939

The deadline has come and gone for Albania and the Italian fleet has begun shelling of the Albanian coast. By the end of the day 2 divisions would be on the shore and Albania would fall within a week and have King Zog fleeing to Greece.

May 1939

In conjunction with the German training previously received and lessons learned in Spain the Comando Supremo has ordered a restructuring of the Italian military by implementing a new doctrine of warfare. Over the course of 1939 Italy will retrain its troops for the use of Blitzkrieg style warfare.

Army supply depots are established in northern Italy along the German Italian border to keep trade covertly flowing with Germany freely even if Italy has to declare a trade embargo against the Reich.

September 1st 1939

Following a staged attack on a German radio station Germany declares war on Poland and launches a massive invasion of the country. Britain and France immediately condemn the attacks and Italy proclaims her neutrality. Mussolini even offers that Rome be used as a site of a conference to work out a peaceful solution to the unnecessary war. Of course this request is refused by Hitler but the gesture helps to increase his diplomatic standing with the Allies.

September 3rd 1939

Great Britain and France declare war on Germany.

September 17th 1939

The Soviet Union invades Poland in accordance with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

October 1st 1939

Poland is completely conquered by the forces of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.

November 1939

A treaty for Britain and France is drafted up that promises Italy will cut all economic and political ties with Nazi Germany in return for a Sphere of Influence over the Balkans, Eastern Mediterranean and Mideast(Minus British and French Protectorates.) Presented secretly to those governments the treaty is immediately rebuked.

January 1940

Nazi gold begins flowing into Italy as Germany starts purchasing stores of supply for renewed offensives in a few months.

Italian tank production is on the rise as a result of the brilliant use of tanks in Poland.

Meanwhile plans are being made for an Italian invasion of Yugoslavia. Though Italy does not have the assurances of Britain and France over Italian dominance in the region Mussolini is confidant that soon the Allies will be too distracted to care what Italy does.

April 9th 1940

Germany invades Norway and Denmark and both nations fall quickly.

Italy enters into negotiations with Bulgaria for an invasion of Yugoslavia. The tentative date is set for early 1941 so both nations can prepare their armed forces.

May 10th 1940

Germany Blitzes Belgium and France! Allied defense is shattered nearly from the start of the campaign.

June 10th 1940

With almost all of France nearly in German hands and the British forced to retreat back to England Mussolini once again submits the treaty of Italian neutrality to Britain and France. In chaotic Paris the treaty goes ignored but in Britain it is reluctantly signed by the new government under Churchill.

June 11th 1940

Italy breaks all economic and diplomatic ties with Germany citing their unlawful invasion of Belgium and France. The Italian government enacts measures to protect Italian industry by purchasing goods originally bound for Germany. On paper this is a dramatic act, in practice there is little or no effect on trade with it now just being conducted completely by the government in exchange for untraceable currency and technology designs.

June 22nd 1940

With Paris and two thirds of France under German control France is forced to sign an armistice with Germany. The neutral Vichy government is established in Vichy.

July 1940

The Battle of Britain begins in the skies over England.

November 1940

The Italian military reforms are largely completed their effectiveness is still unknown but they will soon be tested in Yugoslavia. An invasion date is set for early April.

After months of constant gold trading it was time to launder the funds into the economy and have Italy benefit from the sales. Mussolini begins approving plans for funding from a multitude of government organizations and private institutions. Most of which have a military value. One such request comes from the University of Rome for grant money to research the possibility of achieving nuclear fission and outlines the possible uses, one of which catches Mussolini’s eye which is the military aspect. It is quickly signed with a large “M” for his approval and the Italian Nuclear Program officially begins.

*Note: Some may see it far fetched that Italy would begin a nuclear program on it’s own but I believe that with Fermi still residing in Italy, the lack of Italian entry in the war and the influx of funds from Germany an Italian program is inevitable. Of course this program will take many years since Italy does not have the same amount of funds to devote to it as the United States nor the infrastructure to support the operation. We are looking at a development of at least 9 to 10 years.

End of Part 1.
 
Moved and bumped.

Nice to see that your TL is finished, but if it never was posted here, let the people still discuss it before you post it in the T&S forum.
 
Yes! Finally! Ill surely look forward to reading one of my favourite timelines again. AH was a poorer place without this TL...
 
How much of that engineering/capital investment occured in OTL? It would seem that the funds required to build 4 major synthetic refineries and two large railway projects very far away from Europe would be substantial. If the projects didn't occur IOTL then where does the money come from this time around? What projects/ or spending is forgone in this timeline to allow the above?
 
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Neutral Italy, good for all parts (the Allies, Germany and Italy). However I suspect Italy seizing Rijeka (Fiume) during the Axis invasion of Yugoslavia to "protect ethnic Italians". Greece and North Africa would probably not happen. Would be interesting to see how Italy adapt to the post war order.
 
A few annotations:

Haile Selassie the former Emperor of Ethiopia speaks in front of the League of Nations and delivers a scathing speech against the blind Imperialism of the Italian Empire and warning “It is us today, It will be you tomorrow.” His warning falls largely on deaf ears as Britain and France though still displeased with the actions of Italy see possible gain from it.

Selassie appeal falled indeed on deaf ears, since OTL sanctions were quite mild. The western diplomacies had already decided that Ethiopia was a lost cause, or, better a cause not worthy fighting for. Anyway Selassie managed to get enough support from the public opinion to have UK and France move economically against Italy. If you want to avoid this you could have Selassie killed by the italians. For example, Selassie plane could be shot down by the regia aereonautica while escaping from Ethiopia.

A few German military officers are also sent to Italy to instruct Italian officers and NCO’s in new training measures and drills.

The Spanish Civil War ends in a victory for Franco and Italian troops which number over 37 thousand begin returning home. The war reveals defects in Italian military command that Mussolini orders to be corrected with all due haste.

Over the course of 1939 Italy will retrain its troops for the use of Blitzkrieg style warfare.

I'm slyghtly dubious about this. While the Spanish civil war could have certainly taught few leassons to italian comando supremo, OTL they learned nothing. As for asking to Germany for military advisors, it would be just like admitting that own military to be weak and ineffectual, something that would be inacceptable on pthe political level. Consider that Germany had still to build her reputation as military juggernaut and blitzkrieg had still to be battle tested.
The thing could work, though, if the Spanish civil war turned out a defeat for the fascists. A defeat could indeed make Mussolini make the several changes necessary.

Mussolini issues a proclamation asking that all true Italians who emigrated overseas to return to Italy(or one of its colonies,) and work towards making the land of their ancestors great. Incentives of free housing and jobs are offered to those who chose to return home.

If you need settlers and your Mussolini never issues any racial law, you could use the jews. Have Mussolini strike a deal with Hitler to get "rid" of the german jews. OTL Hitler started to make plans for a "final solution" of the "ebraic problem" only after 1941, IIRC. In exchange for accepting all the jews who would ask for emigration to Italy, Hitler could lend some industrial help to his fellow dictator. Mussolini in turn could relocate the jews to southern Italy or Ethiopia (where the Falascià already lived).

Generally speaking, you should explain where Mussolini is going to find all the money to finance his industrialization and infrastructures building. Upgrading the italian army is also going to be really expensive, not to mention the upgrading of a armament industry able to match up the request of engines, precision parts, welded armours etc... that a modern army is going to need.
 
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Selassie appeal falled indeed on deaf ears, since OTL sanctions were quite mild. The western diplomacies had already decided that Ethiopia was a lost cause, or, better a cause not worthy fighting for. Anyway Selassie managed to get enough support from the public opinion to have UK and France move economically against Italy. If you want to avoid this you could have Selassie killed by the italians. For example, Selassie plane could be shot down by the regia aereonautica while escaping from Ethiopia. .
IIRC, there was some kind of short-circuit between the British government and their delegates at the League: the instructions from London were not to vote in favor of sanctions (and the French were quietly supportive of the Ethiopian venture, provided that their economic interests were not penalised).
As a matter of fact, once UK does not close the Suez canal to Italian ships the cat is out of the bag and Ethiopia is gone. To go (too late) for sanctions (and they were nominal sanctions, mind) would be less than a face saving posture and would not benefit anyone: the LoN had already proved that it had not the capacity to act as a world's tribunal. In the end the (nominal) sanctions just pissed off Italy and played in favor of Germany. The POD should be quite small, almost minimalistic: the delegates vote at Geneva according to the instructions of the cabinet.


I'm slyghtly dubious about this. While the Spanish civil war could have certainly taught few leassons to italian comando supremo, OTL they learned nothing. As for asking to Germany for military advisors, it would be just like admitting that own military to be weak and ineffectual, something that would be inacceptable on pthe political level. Consider that Germany had still to build her reputation as military juggernaut and blitzkrieg had still to be battle tested.
The thing could work, though, if the Spanish civil war turned out a defeat for the fascists. A defeat could indeed make Mussolini make the several changes necessary..
I have to agree that this is a very weak point in the TL. IMHO the nationalists could not really loose the war in Spain, unless something major happened (meaning France intervening or UK blockading the ports controlled by the nationalists) which would open a major can of worms. Asking Germany for military advisors would be a no-no: major face loss without any guarantee of improving things.
IIRC there were a bunch of reports and analysis coming back from Spain, and these reports mostly pointed things in the right direction: in particular in terms of artillery, aviation support to troops and bombing, poor performance of the MVSN volunteers (party militia). Unfortunately all of these things were not according to the propaganda facade, so they were stamped secret and were stuffed away. Here a possible POD could be some Italian officer seconded to the Spain civil war and with good ties either with the monarchy or with some faction in the Fascist party (Balbo? Grandi? Ciano?): the reports are not exactly printed on newspapers but the "good tips" of the Spanish conflict are integrated in the plan for the modernisation of the army.


If you need settlers and your Mussolini never issues any racial law, you could use the jews. Have Mussolini strike a deal with Hitler to get "rid" of the german jews. OTL Hitler started to make plans for a "final solution" of the "ebraic problem" only after 1941, IIRC. In exchange for accepting all the jews who would ask for emigration to Italy, Hitler could lend some industrial help to his fellow dictator. Mussolini in turn could relocate the jews to southern Italy or Ethiopia (where the Falascià already lived).

Generally speaking, you should explain where Mussolini is going to find all the money to finance his industrialization and infrastructures building. Upgrading the italian army is also going to be really expensive, not to mention the upgrading of a armament industry able to match up the request of engines, precision parts, welded armours etc... that a modern army is going to need.

There was a TL a few years ago written by Mr. Bluenote where this topic came up and was discussed in depth. IMHO it would be a great idea:
- Italy would get "voluntary" colonists for Lybia and East Africa (and a majority of the prospective Jew migrants would be well educated and/or with good skills)
- it would be a major propaganda move in building good will on the international scene (USA included)
- the Jewish diaspora in the States might be willing to finance the settlement costs for the co-religionaries

Talking about costs (and quoting myself from another Italian timeline :D) where is the money coming from? Synthetic petrol plants aren't cheap, railways even more so, substantial settlements in Africa would require adequate funding, the army must be re-organised and modernised, there is even a nuclear project under way...should I go on?

A portion of the money might come from the American Jews, as I said earlier; some more might also come from non-jewish American funds if the projects are realistic and well presented (Balbo has good friends in the States and might be the right man for a sale); hopefully Mussolini will not get into the forced parity against the pound, which IOTL resulted in a huge drain of funds.
Not sure all of these things are enough to pay the bills, not if the target is to be ready for war in 1941 (btw, push this at least to 1942: it was the official timeline in OTL)
 
A few annotations:

Selassie appeal falled indeed on deaf ears, since OTL sanctions were quite mild. The western diplomacies had already decided that Ethiopia was a lost cause, or, better a cause not worthy fighting for. Anyway Selassie managed to get enough support from the public opinion to have UK and France move economically against Italy. If you want to avoid this you could have Selassie killed by the italians. For example, Selassie plane could be shot down by the regia aereonautica while escaping from Ethiopia. .
IIRC, there was some kind of short-circuit between the British government and their delegates at the League: the instructions from London were not to vote in favor of sanctions (and the French were quietly supportive of the Ethiopian venture, provided that their economic interests were not penalised).
As a matter of fact, once UK does not close the Suez canal to Italian ships the cat is out of the bag and Ethiopia is gone. To go (too late) for sanctions (and they were nominal sanctions, mind) would be less than a face saving posture and would not benefit anyone: the LoN had already proved that it had not the capacity to act as a world's tribunal. In the end the (nominal) sanctions just pissed off Italy and played in favor of Germany. The POD should be quite small, almost minimalistic: the delegates vote at Geneva according to the instructions of the cabinet.


I'm slyghtly dubious about this. While the Spanish civil war could have certainly taught few leassons to italian comando supremo, OTL they learned nothing. As for asking to Germany for military advisors, it would be just like admitting that own military to be weak and ineffectual, something that would be inacceptable on pthe political level. Consider that Germany had still to build her reputation as military juggernaut and blitzkrieg had still to be battle tested.
The thing could work, though, if the Spanish civil war turned out a defeat for the fascists. A defeat could indeed make Mussolini make the several changes necessary..
I have to agree that this is a very weak point in the TL. IMHO the nationalists could not really loose the war in Spain, unless something major happened (meaning France intervening or UK blockading the ports controlled by the nationalists) which would open a major can of worms. Asking Germany for military advisors would be a no-no: major face loss without any guarantee of improving things.
IIRC there were a bunch of reports and analysis coming back from Spain, and these reports mostly pointed things in the right direction: in particular in terms of artillery, aviation support to troops and bombing, poor performance of the MVSN volunteers (party militia). Unfortunately all of these things were not according to the propaganda facade, so they were stamped secret and were stuffed away. Here a possible POD could be some Italian officer seconded to the Spain civil war and with good ties either with the monarchy or with some faction in the Fascist party (Balbo? Grandi? Ciano?): the reports are not exactly printed on newspapers but the "good tips" of the Spanish conflict are integrated in the plan for the modernisation of the army.


If you need settlers and your Mussolini never issues any racial law, you could use the jews. Have Mussolini strike a deal with Hitler to get "rid" of the german jews. OTL Hitler started to make plans for a "final solution" of the "ebraic problem" only after 1941, IIRC. In exchange for accepting all the jews who would ask for emigration to Italy, Hitler could lend some industrial help to his fellow dictator. Mussolini in turn could relocate the jews to southern Italy or Ethiopia (where the Falascià already lived).

Generally speaking, you should explain where Mussolini is going to find all the money to finance his industrialization and infrastructures building. Upgrading the italian army is also going to be really expensive, not to mention the upgrading of a armament industry able to match up the request of engines, precision parts, welded armours etc... that a modern army is going to need.

There was a TL a few years ago written by Mr. Bluenote where this topic came up and was discussed in depth. IMHO it would be a great idea:
- Italy would get "voluntary" colonists for Lybia and East Africa (and a majority of the prospective Jew migrants would be well educated and/or with good skills)
- it would be a major propaganda move in building good will on the international scene (USA included)
- the Jewish diaspora in the States might be willing to finance the settlement costs for the co-religionaries

Talking about costs (and quoting myself from another Italian timeline :D) where is the money coming from? Synthetic petrol plants aren't cheap, railways even more so, substantial settlements in Africa would require adequate funding, the army must be re-organised and modernised, there is even a nuclear project under way...should I go on?

A portion of the money might come from the American Jews, as I said earlier; some more might also come from non-jewish American funds if the projects are realistic and well presented (Balbo has good friends in the States and might be the right man for a sale); hopefully Mussolini will not get into the forced parity against the pound, which IOTL resulted in a huge drain of funds.
Not sure all of these things are enough to pay the bills, not if the target is to be ready for war in 1941 (btw, push this at least to 1942: it was the official timeline in OTL)
 
The construction on the first of four synthetic oil plants begin
.The synthetic oil plants are nearly running at full production and plans are made to expand the number to six by 1941
?Did Italy have the Coal reserves necessary to make this economical?.
The second is a railway linking the major cities of Italian East Africa. They are expected to be completed within two years.
IIRC the Italian plans were for a Auto-Bhan, ?Why the Change?
Count Ciano the foreign minister of Italy and son in law to Il Duce begins a diplomatic blitz with France and the United Kingdom trying to drum up support for the Ethiopian war. Ciano even goes as far to offer both France and Britain reduced prices on any exports produced from the Ethiopian colony.
Remembre Italy had the tacit approval from Britain & France pre Invasion. It was only the French Opposition Papers raising a stink, over the agreement that lead to the condenment.
 
According to the timeline posted, Italy has taken control of Albania so they would have access to a few large coal fields.
 
At last it comes to AH.com! Nice to see it generating discussion like this. For fininavces I imagine it is easier for Italky to obtain loans since steps have been taken to keep Rome in good standing in the West. So more foreign coital hould e moving in and the more competent actions by Mussolini will mean less outflow of talent, Professor Fermi being one example.
 
Glad to see this "lost legend" surfacing here. Most of my big Q's have already been asked, so I'll await your answers to them.

And yes, another Italian TL! Soon Italian TLs will conquer the boards!

Italo-Thread-wank? :D
 
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