Not if New Zealand is involved.
Not if Japan is involved
Sure that would help immenselyTo the contrary, Japan must be involved. Just on the opposite side as OTL.
I don’t know how likely this is considering how strong the Anglo-Japanese alliance was during WW1, but It’d be interesting ATL. Maybe the Anglo-Japanese Treaty in 1902 is never created?To the contrary, Japan must be involved. Just on the opposite side as OTL.
[1] No resentment at Gallipoli could change attitudes to British command over ANZAC troops in WW2.
It does sound interesting. Are there any good timelines on it?Would there be a ww2 in this scenario?
I can't see how the CP can lose in this set of circumstances - the balance of power at sea being immeasurably changed, and the UK being significantly distracted by Japan (Anzac as mentioned before).
Although the biggest change I think is that Japan would be able to mount a close blockade of the Russian far east.
Still Japan in the CP is one of my favourite WIs
Basically invest into extensively ridiculous over the top siege mentality war-planning and storage of food and materials for fighting, repairing things, creating potable water, etcetera.Yeah but how long could their colonies last assuming Japanese and Commonwealth involvement is the same as OTL. What changes could happen to influence the outcome of the Pacific Theater? Like for example, what are possible tactics they could've used to possibly stop the Japanese advance?
There would be a need for many changes. I think most of these colonies had together a couple of a hundred soldiers. Qingdao was by far the most developed of the colonial holdings in this region. For these colonies to stand a chance they need to be built up at least into a similar level.What changes would have to be made to OTL to cause this for this to realistically occur?
This would make a huge good one shot or story if someone can write itOne possibility is something similar occurs to the 1913 OTL visit of two battleships to German colonies, two new German battleships are visiting the colonies in the Pacific on a show the flag visit are in Rabaul in the beginning of August 1914, with some support ships. The German east Asia also remains in the Pacific instad of fleeing torward South Americ as in OTL.
The British and the Commonwealth don't feel confident to invade with the strong German naval force now there, and don't want to remove 4 Dreadnoughts from North Sea station to have an overwhelming superiority.
The Japanese have the naval power to take on the German ships of course but the British don't want to invite them to help as New Britain and New Guinea are proposed gains for the commonwealth.
So a temporary stalemate ensues.
This is genuinely a good idea. Is it okay for me to use this in my ATL with credit?One possibility is something similar occurs to the 1913 OTL visit of two battleships to German colonies, two new German battleships are visiting the colonies in the Pacific on a show the flag visit are in Rabaul in the beginning of August 1914, with some support ships. The German east Asia also remains in the Pacific instad of fleeing torward South Americ as in OTL.
The British and the Commonwealth don't feel confident to invade with the strong German naval force now there, and don't want to remove 4 Dreadnoughts from North Sea station to have an overwhelming superiority.
The Japanese have the naval power to take on the German ships of course but the British don't want to invite them to help as New Britain and New Guinea are proposed gains for the commonwealth.
So a temporary stalemate ensues.
Agree with you on the likely result for New Zealand and Western Samoa because of sheer distance, but not for Australian activities. The Australian were speedy off the mark but joint German Japanese contestation in the Bismarcks or even a reclamation attempt there could work. Same for Nauru.Japan with the Central powers probably wouldn't affect New Zealand's takeover of Samoa and the Australian activities but would likely retain the more northerly territories.
Logistics should favour Australia in New Guinea if it gets contested, although it's really tough terrain so a stalemate with a resolution post 1918 would be plausible. Abit might depend on how the locals take to the incoming forces. They might have a big effect on logistics if they took a dislike to peoplemessing around in their territory..Agree with you on the likely result for New Zealand and Western Samoa because of sheer distance, but not for Australian activities. The Australian were speedy off the mark but joint German Japanese contestation in the Bismarcks or even a reclamation attempt there could work. Same for Nauru.
Sure go ahead. No need to credit, just run with it, Lots of options, even if just going to Tsingtao makes that port much tougher to take. Rabaul is a good port though.This is genuinely a good idea. Is it okay for me to use this in my ATL with credit?
Alr fam I’ll keep this in mind. Thanks for the helpSure go ahead. No need to credit, just run with it, Lots of options, even if just going to Tsingtao makes that port much tougher to take. Rabaul is a good port though.