Iron Roses:A Frozen War

[Mr.Gatsby]

The Kennedy Trials

(Then Senator John F Kennedy giving a speech on Germany infiltration of the United State at the National Press Club)​

After the loss of most of Europe, part of Central Africa and all of the Eastern Europe to the Nazis. Both the US and UK began to safeguard their nation from any other Nazi aggression with the Atom and try to eliminate any threat from within. It’s wasn’t Germany winning the war that was the death nail for the extreme far right in the free allied counties, but their actions post war. The Reich was not silent to their citizens about their crimes why would they be? Slavery and Extermination would only be crimes if their victims were humans and to the people of the German Reich these were not human. The sight of depopulation zone in the old western Soviet Union and the Slavic slave trade being advertised on German tv and billboard promoting sales on female servants brought from the frontier horrified America and Britain almost as the thought that

“IT COULD HAPPEN HERE”
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Knowing this put the Kennedy Trials into context. This is not to say what President then Senator John F Kennedy Did was right many good people businessman,politicians,doctors, lawyers, police officers even military generals got their lives and career ended from the trails.

Senator John F Kennedy call a CEO accused of supporting the Third Reich to testify before Congress (1952)
Not to mentioned to the persecution of those of German and Italian heritage many of whom where refugees or children of refugees who fled the axis in Europe before and during the war. At the same time the trials did uncovered a lot of real fascist in American high society, but most fighting was the uncovering of the full extent of the racist terror group known as the Ku Klux Klan, or often called the K.K.K or the klan or the invisible empire. The last name was most accurate in describing the klan in many parts of the country.

The Klan had infiltrated almost every office and or job in the south from bar tenders to governors. The Federal government fearing that the Nazis could use the klan as an insurgency began to launch a propaganda campaign against the group deeming it a German backed threat to national security and with the public attitude of better dead then a Kraut it would see a major success during the 50’s as by 1956 the klan would be nothing more than few hundred rednecks in some small parts of rural America.
No matter what you may think about the trial one thing is true about them, which is that they would remain controversial till this day.

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

Atom Bomb Baby​

In late 1945 after two failed attempts of using the power of the atom,The United States finally managed to become the first nation to use the power of the atom with Britain becoming the second in 49. Ironically Germany where the idea of a nuclear weapon originated did not get “the bomb” until the mid 50’s due in part to the German refusal to believe in “Jewish science” like most things in the Third Reich ideology came before facts. It was only with the nuclear bombs bombing of Tokyo and three other Japanese city by the American military did the German see the potential in the bomb. Although they would have to start from the ground up developing their on ways to create an Atomic Bomb or wonderbomb as the German called them mainly due in part that most of their scientists were Jewish and filed to the America and Britain.

Although progress would be slow to create one it would come at the right time for the Reich-Neo Roman war.

(German troops in what left of Rome three weeks after the blast.)

Now with both Axis and allies having nuclear weapons a race had begun to obtain more powerful and numerous weapons than the other sides. The atomic starter pistol had fired the Nuclear Arms Race has begun....

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

Jessica V Crow

(Jessy Jessica takes photo with her young daughter Jamie after the case.)​

officially called Jessica V The State Of Mississippi (but dubbed by the media as Jessica V Jim Crow then just Crow) the land mark Supreme Court Case Mad history in 1955 when a young female lawyer by the name of Jessy Jessica or JJ as her friends called her sued the state of Mississippi over the fact she was being unconstitutionally discriminated against due to her being a woman of color.

(Photo of the freedom guard a pro American anti fascist organizations which was created by civil right leaders anti Jim Crow northern law maker and the communist party of America)
The case quickly evolved to become against segregation as a whole. From there it grew to include voting right and discrimination at the poles along with that of klan terrorism against black activist which would help lead to the klan being banned in 57. One of the arguments Jessica would use was that Jim Crow laws were very similar to what the Nazis did to the Jews before the depopulation of them in Europe. She would go so far as calling refugees from the Reich to testify to the court serval time making some of the judges cry. As this was going on it triggered a wave of protest and new political thoughts and debates in the south which would be known as the southern cultural revolution.The case came back with all judges declaring that Jim Core laws and any discrimination on the bases of skin color was on constitutional and was to be stopped.

(Pro Jim Crow protest on the South Carolina state house)
This would not just be a cake walk for the governments. A lot of southern states government refused to pay any mind to the case and some cases even threatened to leave the union. Klan attack ticked up even some attacking government building. The feds you try to decide on what to do until the Alabama church bombing where it would kill over a hundred black worshipers on a Sunday morning.

(The aftermath of the bombing)

(The race riots would last two weeks and there where even reports that some cops had deputized certain klan groups to help put down the riot)
The police refused to investigate and in many parts of the south Blacks began to riot with many northern politicians supporting the “anti fascist riots”.

(Federal forces marching into the state Capitol of Mississippi)
In response president MacArthur sent in federal troops nationalized the national guard of the states placing them under martial law arresting all officials who even thought about the word rebellion. The government would also help with
voter registration for the upcoming election in the fall.

(Civil right activist and future president Martin Luther King takes parts in the new fair southern election)

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

So how are you guys are liking the TL so far I the next update is probably gonna come out within the next three days. Are their any thing you want me to cover or do anyone have any questions.

 

[ennobee]

So how are you guys are liking the TL so far I the next update is probably gonna come out within the next three days. Are their any thing you want me to cover or do anyone have any questions.

Looks interesting. Can't wait to see what you make out of the Cuban Missile Crisis? Bautista refusing to hand over power to a democratically elected government and aligning himself with the Nazis?

Also, with Werner Von Braun still happily building slave factories for rocket parts in Germany, do the Nazis win the Space Race? Or do the Soviets under Corollev catch up and beat them to the moon?

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

Looks interesting. Can't wait to see what you make out of the Cuban Missile Crisis? Bautista refusing to hand over power to a democratically elected government and aligning himself with the Nazis?

The closet thing would be the st pierre island crisis. Actuality Castro gets out in power by the us after Bautista was about join the Reich.

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

Also, with Werner Von Braun still happily building slave factories for rocket parts in Germany, do the Nazis win the Space Race? Or do the Soviets under Corollev catch up and beat them to the moon?

Well actually the US still go to the moon first but the space doesn’t end there. During the early stages of the Cold War the Reich those hold advantages in rockets and missiles technology even developing the first ICBMs (although pretty crude ones). The Soviets are in no condition to go into space anytime soon.

 

[ennobee]

The closet thing would be the st pierre island crisis. Actuality Castro gets out in power by the us after Bautista was about join the Reich.

Great. If you want to get my undivided attention, bring in Ernest Hemmingway as being for real the spymaster some whisper he was.

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

Great. If you want to get my undivided attention, bring in Ernest Hemmingway as being for real the spymaster some whisper he was.

He doesn’t kill himself this time around.Well he ends up as an ambassador to the Sino-Sov....well he becomes pretty important to America eastern allies.

 

[walmart]

Actuality Castro gets out in power by the us

Why would they put someone who they feared would threaten US business interests

Bautista was about join the Reich.

Why on earth would he do that ?

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

Why would they put someone who they feared would threaten US business interests

He more or less an democratic socialist if that.

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

Why on earth would he do that ?

The US wanted a democracy an He didn’t like that very much so said no and we all know what happens to a Latin American country who says no to the US.

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

Why would they put someone who they feared would threaten US business interests


Why on earth would he do that ?

And when I say join the Reich I don’t mean full on become apart of the country. Just very close allies and a possible place where Hitler can stash his nukes and ICBMs. So America got rid of him.

 

[walmart]

He more or less an democratic socialist if that.

So what,they still viewed him as a threat

The US wanted a democracy an He didn’t like that very much so said no and we all know what happens to a Latin American country who says no to the US.

Since when did the United States care about democracy in Latin America anytime before 1991.

And when I say join the Reich I don’t mean full on become apart of the country. Just very close allies and a possible place where Hitler can stash his nukes and ICBMs. So America got rid of him.

I figured

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

Since when did the United States care about democracy in Latin America anytime before 1991.

It’s alternate America when it does care about democracy...as long as you are not a democratic elected right wing government that could be a threat. Yes I know it’s ironic that the CIA is overthrowing right wing democracy and replacing them with left wing client states.

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

So what if they feared him as a threat

They don’t really thank of him as a threat he isn’t as hardline as in OTL as well the American people are semi distrustful of big companies after the Kennedy Trials.

 

[walmart]

It’s alternate America when it does care about democracy...as long as you are not a democratic elected right wing government that could be a threat. Yes I know it’s ironic that the CIA is overthrowing right wing democracy and replacing them with left wing client states.

Your making things too ideological and a mirror of the otl cold war but with fascists instead of communists. Any cold war between the United States and Nazi Germany is going to look like the current conflict between the United States and Russia/China in terms of ideology alignment IE doesn't matter than the Cold war. Nazi Germany will be far more palatable to any form of government than Soviets were given Germany is non-communist and not commit to spreading a World revolution or any fascist internationalism nor claimed to be either right or left wing. Nazi Germany both during the interwar era and world war 2 gladly allied with and traded with anyone who was willing .There no reason for the US to view a right wing government as more likely to ally with the Germany or a backdoor for a automatically pro-German fascist party .

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

Sweet Home Sweet Reich​

After the war the The Third Reich would instate a polices of a ethic cast system with Jew(what are left of them) and Slav(used as slave and work horses) being at the bottom and ethic “Aryan” Germans at the top. This naturally lead to some none ethic German areas in Reich to lag behind.

Photo of Paris 1960 note the lack of cars by civilians most cars in what used to be France are own by government officials. They are occasional breed lines.

In the frontier regions German were encouraged to have many children and were given miles of depopulated farm land to help with the work each family of five was given two Slavic slaves for free.

In Berlin the city were rebuilt from the ground up it became one of the Reich “show city” which they would allow limited foreign press in to show staged events.

Although there were trouble brewing below the Reich it relationship southern neighbor would soon sour and the drums of war will begun to beat again...

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

The East​

After the death of Stalin from a heart attack in the summer of 1941 and subsequent power and following power struggles and three coups combined with the invasion by Reich speller the near collapse of the Union Of Soviet Socialist Republic which was pushed out of Moscow in the late fall just as winter fell. What was left of the Soviet government united under Field Marshal Georgy Zhukov in Omsk east of the urals.

Slavic fighter over run German armor in the east (1990)
They managed to fight the Reich to a stalemate during the winter and made a “peace” treaty with them in 1947. The reds would keep the central Asian Republics and the Reich would keep everything east of the Urals. The Soviet until the very end of the Reich would fund the Slavic fighters in east based in hidden caves and tunnels in Urals and around the old eastern USSR. They would engage in a hit and one attacks against the German settlers starting slaves revolts killing farmers burning frontier towns then retreating back to their hidden hiding places. In China after the victory over japan in and a stalemate with in the Chinese civil war the people Republic of China would gain control of northern China. The reds would fine partnership with there noting neighbors and by the late 50’s the foundation of the Sino Soviet Union would begin to be laid...

 

[Mr.Gatsby]

I been running blanks on this time line any idea what I should cover next?