House of Stuart Poll.

Which Stuart timeline to choose?

  • Charles II and Catherine of Braganza have kids

    Votes: 25 25.5%

  • Charles II marries someone other than Catherine of Braganza

    Votes: 5 5.1%

  • Henry Stuart, Duke of Gloucester and Mary, Princess Royal survive

    Votes: 11 11.2%

  • James Duke of York and Albany and Anne Hyde have surviving sons

    Votes: 14 14.3%

  • Henry Frederick, Prince of Wales lives

    Votes: 43 43.9%
  • Total voters
    98
  • Poll closed .
Valena

Valena

VVD0D95 said:
Oooh Maria Eleonora would be intriguing, seeing how she and Charles get on would be fascinating, especially if her spending is like what it was otl aha
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In other thread I thought about her sister, OTL Princess of Transylvania.
But Maria Eleonora would make great Duchess of York - IF the Stuarts manage to catch her.
 

VVD0D95

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Valena said:
In other thread I thought about her sister, OTL Princess of Transylvania.
But Maria Eleonora would make great Duchess of York - IF the Stuarts manage to catch her.
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Definitely, and I think they might be able to, if James starts looking around the late 1610s for Charles.
 
Valena

Valena

VVD0D95 said:
Definitely, and I think they might be able to, if James starts looking around the late 1610s for Charles.
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If Prince of Wales is married and produced a little Duke of Edinburgh, a bride for Duke of York can wait (I thought about Catherine as worst case of Charles staying unmarried during the reign of their father due to no urgency in second son marriage).
 

VVD0D95

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Valena said:
If Prince of Wales is married and produced a little Duke of Edinburgh, a bride for Duke of York can wait (I thought about Catherine as worst case of Charles staying unmarried during the reign of their father due to no urgency in second son marriage).
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Oh this is true, hmm, would Duke of Edinburgh be the automatic title for the heir of the heir? I was always under the impression that that was a Hanoverian invention?
 
Valena

Valena

Though I thought about plausible scenario for a situation where Anna Maria Wasa is the Princess of Wales - given that in OTL Swedish match for Maria Eleonora was blocked partially due to fear to annoy the Poles, some strings can be pulled in this regards in late 1610ies.
 
Valena

Valena

VVD0D95 said:
Oh this is true, hmm, would Duke of Edinburgh be the automatic title for the heir of the heir? I was always under the impression that that was a Hanoverian invention?
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It was simply the first precedent in centuries with such situation in recent British history. And if we're inventing a title from the ground, Duke of Edinburgh is as good as any.
 

VVD0D95

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Valena said:
Though I thought about plausible scenario for a situation where Anna Maria Wasa is the Princess of Wales - given that in OTL Swedish match for Maria Eleonora was blocked partially due to fear to annoy the Poles, some strings can be pulled in this regards in late 1610ies.
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Hmm this is true, and tbf, given James I seemed to be indifferent to Sweden otl, he might go for Anna, simply because it might better alig with his interests at the time? I remember reading that James was trying to get into the Polish market for trade around this point in time.
Valena said:
It was simply the first precedent in centuries with such situation in recent British history. And if we're inventing a title from the ground, Duke of Edinburgh is as good as any.
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Ahh this is true
 
Valena

Valena

VVD0D95 said:
Hmm this is true, and tbf, given James I seemed to be indifferent to Sweden otl, he might go for Anna, simply because it might better alig with his interests at the time? I remember reading that James was trying to get into the Polish market for trade around this point in time.
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As good a pretext for TL as any.

Primary PoD - Anna Maria Wasa survives, in 1610 a marriage contract is arranged between her and Prince of Wales.
Duke of Edinburgh is born circa 1611-1612, and his Anglican education is not obstructed in any way.

The Duke of York match in this setting is a matter of late 1610ies.
 

VVD0D95

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Valena said:
As good a pretext for TL as any.

Primary PoD - Anna Maria Wasa survives, in 1610 a marriage contract is arranged between her and Prince of Wales.
Duke of Edinburgh is born circa 1611-1612, and his Anglican education is not obstructed in any way.

The Duke of York match in this setting is a matter of late 1610ies.
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I like that. Works perfectly, and gives time for Henry and Anna Maria to develop a relationship, get to know one another, have kids, and show that the line of succession is firmly secure once James starts ageing.
 
Valena

Valena

VVD0D95 said:
I like that. Works perfectly, and gives time for Henry and Anna Maria to develop a relationship, get to know one another, have kids, and show that the line of succession is firmly secure once James starts ageing.
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Likely:)
So, should we expect a TL on topic?
 
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