Who was the best president of the United States in this timeline?

  • Calvin Coolidge: the Revolutionary President

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oh shit an update
Yeah, bit of a wait between the updates for this timeline here lately.
That would be because I don't.. like this timeline to a degree. This was my second timeline (and longest lasting in time span) and I'm proud that I stuck with it, but looking back I'm not happy with the delivery. I had some ideas that I thought were cool and will probably use again (like the two Germanies and JQA as US president in the 1840s), but rereading... I feel like one can just tell this was made by somebody new to alternate history. I might try again with something similar in a few years, but no promises.

Anyway, this timeline's end is gonna be around 1920. I just want to thank everybody who's read Glory and in regards to this timeline particularly @Dante and @AkulaKursk for all the feed back they've given for this since it started back in December 2018.
 
The Beginning of the End
Reds! Mahan to the Second American Revolution: 1909-1917

Alfred Thayer Mahan is thought to have been a good man and a good Naval Secretary, but not a good president. Elected to win a war that was really finished before he even took office, Mahan actually did little during his time in office. The United States during the years following the Great War was mostly concerned with administering the new territory. Vancouver Island was split off from British Columbia and was to be administered as the Vancouver Territory and the city of Victoria was renamed Houston after former United States President Sam Houston. British Columbia was renamed the Washington Territory. Corruption plagued the Mahan administration, such as when Albert B. Falls accepted bribes from corporations such as Standard Oil to drill in the new territories without bidding on the drilling rights. In 1911, Representative Joshua Wellman (this timeline's equivalent of Jack London) of Pennsylvania advocated a bill that would declare maximum work hours during the week and set minimum wage. Both bills were killed on the house for during a filibuster.


One of the most important figures in American history began his rise in the early 1910s; Calvin Coolidge. Born in Vermont, Calvin Coolidge's family moved to Massachusetts when he was but a young lad. A series of misfortunes drained the family of their wealth and Calvin's father was killed in a work related accident. Calvin, needing to provide for his family, began working in a meatpacking plant. Work was hard, the conditions unsafe, Calvin's faith in the American Dream began to fall apart. At first a loyal voter for the Liberty Party, the harsh conditions and the lack of political inaction turned him towards the Socialist Party of America. In 1912, only a few months after President Mahan's reelection by a razor thin margin, Calvin Coolidge was one of the leaders during the Meat-packers Strike of 1912. There, he and others called for better pay, safety regulations, and a maximum work week. In turn, when asked by the plant owners, the Governor of Massachusetts sicked the National Guard on the strikers in a massive raid and made close to 300 arrests, including Calvin Coolidge. Not allowing the bars of his cell to stop him, he continued to make speeches to his fellow inmates and reports who came to interview him. It was the Boston Globe that attributed him his now famous nickname "Loud Cal."


During Mahan's time in office, the United States became rocked with strikes and labor conflicts. Nearly 40 years of no regulations being passed and the very real influence of monopolies and trusts in politics stunted such regulations, and it was becoming worse. Mahan, however, kept his focus on foreign affairs. Despite the harshness of the peace on Great Britain, Mahan was still weary to leave it with any Carribean holdings, such as Antigua. Then there were the raids by Mexican rebels across the border under the command of individuals of men like Pancho Villa. The Republic of California was in increasingly higher debt to the United States after the Great Earthquake of 1906 ruined them financially. While San Francisco was not the capital, it was still a major city and the government was struggling to deal with the fallout even six years later. Mahan's Secretary of State, Charles Evans Hughes had even proposed annexation, much like what Texas had done in the 1860s. In America's new possessions, the hills of Jamaica were teaming with anti American guerrillas, many former British soldiers, others simply wanting independence from all colonialist powers. In Africa, while the Congo prospered under Colonial Governor William Howard Taft, the American government still worried about the Cape Colony and the other British colonies in the area. To combat this and to provide a useful buffer state, the USA proposed a union between the Orange Free State, Natalia, and Transvaal. This union would become the United States of Africa (Verenigde State van Afrika/VSA).


On December 1st, 1914, President Mahan died, leaving Vice President Fairbanks to inherit the mess of a country that had been dominated too long by monopolies. Fairbanks was the obvious choice for the Libertarian candidate in 1916. The Democrats however, had a much less certain future. With the Socialist party siphoning off votes from the more progressive wing of both parties, the Democrats proposed a merger in 1914 to capture the White House in 1916. Agreeing, the Democratic Socialist National Convention met in Boston in July of 1915. After close to a hundred ballots, Eugene V. Debbs was named the Democratic Socialist presidential candidate. For his running mate was the apolitical Democratic Admiral George Dewey.

The 1916 election, perhaps the last normal election, was hard fought by both parties. Trusts tried to influence the election. Some corporations declared that any worker who voted for the Debbs/Dewey ticket would be fired on the spot. Striking workers marched in the streets carrying banners that read "Workers for Debbs" and "Down With UNFairbanks." Many papers declared the Democratic Socialist ticket to be one of desperation. Which it was. On the Democrats' part. The labor unrest had been simmering below the skin of many in the USA for a long time. America in truth was on the verge of a revolution. The 1916 election was just to determine if it was to be through the ballot box, or the sword.
In November, the Debbs/Dewey ticket prevailed over the Fairbanks/Harding ticket. Workers, desperate for any change, celebrated in the streets, leading to mass firings by many corporations. To show solidarity, Loud Cal Coolidge organized a protest of this with a recent Socialist convert, Theodore Roosevelt shortly after the mass firings. The jubilation would not last however, as when Debbs was in the midst of giving his inaugural speech, a lone gunman fired three shots before being captured by security, making Debbs the shortest serving president in American history, a total of fifteen minutes.
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Debbs shortly before being shot.

George Dewey, the Vice President elect had died at the age of 79 in January. Instead, the Pro Tempore of the United States Senate Willard Saulsbury Jr. was sworn into office. This was followed by outrage from those who voted Debbs. Even worse was when later that month, the Boston Globe exposed that the hit man had been paid to assassinate Debbs by one of the monopolies. The hit man named Rockefeller as his backer. When the information went public, it was the end of normalcy in America. After the stunning revelations, the workers of America, no longer willing to stand by and watch, took up arms and marched on the White House with Theodore Roosevelt and Calvin Coolidge at the head of the column. On April 12th, 1917, the horde of workers drug President Saulsbury and his cabinet out of the White House and had them clapped in chains. The governor of Maryland called upon the national guard to put down the uprising. However, nearly a third mutinied and joined the workers. Calvin would give a speech declaring that Saulsbury was illegitimate and that America needed a president that represented America.

"Today is a proud day. For today is the day we throw off our shackles! No more will we be slaves to the elite! No more will we toil for company script! Today, we rise up and we say NO MORE!" - Calvin "Loud Cal" Coolidge to the newly formed Workers' Army.
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Loud Cal with members of the Workers' Army.
 
Just stumbled upon this the other day, and finished reading it just now. As someone else who did an "American looses the War of 1812" TL, I always find it interesting to see how things develop. Funny enough, we did a few similar things (though in different ways). The crux of my TL was the destruction and later abandonment of Washington DC, with the capital moving to the interior (the site of OTL Cincinnati - called Franklin in the TL). Anyway, there are several native states, an independent Texas and California, a split western and eastern Germany, and the rise of a socialist-esque party, oh and at least two African American presidents. Among other things. So I found this TL very interesting.
 
Just stumbled upon this the other day, and finished reading it just now. As someone else who did an "American looses the War of 1812" TL, I always find it interesting to see how things develop. Funny enough, we did a few similar things (though in different ways). The crux of my TL was the destruction and later abandonment of Washington DC, with the capital moving to the interior (the site of OTL Cincinnati - called Franklin in the TL). Anyway, there are several native states, an independent Texas and California, a split western and eastern Germany, and the rise of a socialist-esque party, oh and at least two African American presidents. Among other things. So I found this TL very interesting.
Really? Cool! I started reading that before I got distracted, but I found it pretty good from what I remember (even though I didn't get very far). Are the Native States centered around specific tribes?
 
Really? Cool! I started reading that before I got distracted, but I found it pretty good from what I remember (even though I didn't get very far). Are the Native States centered around specific tribes?

Haha, well, shameless plug, feel free to pick it back up. It's all the way up to the end of 1960 now, though it's been on significant hiatus due to a mix of writer's block and the real world.

And to a point they are, though not quite as much as in your TL. Gigadohi, Kanasaw, and Lakota. Gain their statehood in the mid-to-late 1800s.
Gigadohi was founded largely by the Cherokee and Creek, with the Choctaw and Chickasaw largely settling Kanasaw (there was still Indian Removal IMTL).
 
Haha, well, shameless plug, feel free to pick it back up. It's all the way up to the end of 1960 now, though it's been on significant hiatus due to a mix of writer's block and the real world.
I just started rereading (up to Chapter 4) and its still pretty good.
Ah, writers block. My mortal enemy.
And to a point they are, though not quite as much as in your TL. Gigadohi, Kanasaw, and Lakota. Gain their statehood in the mid-to-late 1800s.
Gigadohi was founded largely by the Cherokee and Creek, with the Choctaw and Chickasaw largely settling Kanasaw (there was still Indian Removal IMTL).
Cool. Part of the reason why the Native Dominated states evolved the way they did largely stemmed from wanting to avoid the Trail of Tears all together. Yours are interesting too, btw.
 
I just started rereading (up to Chapter 4) and its still pretty good.
Ah, writers block. My mortal enemy.

Cool. Part of the reason why the Native Dominated states evolved the way they did largely stemmed from wanting to avoid the Trail of Tears all together. Yours are interesting too, btw.

The Indian Removal I ended up with was delayed and not *quite* as brutal, but wasn't great either. Luckily, the native districts stay loyal to the northern anti-slavers during the alternate Civil War and get rewarded afterward, which then sets the precedent for the creation of Lakota a few decades later.

Enjoy!
 
is Alfred Mahan supposed to be sorta like OTL Ulysses S. Grant? A good military dude and a good guy who leads to a corrupt administration and bad presidency.
 
is Alfred Mahan supposed to be sorta like OTL Ulysses S. Grant? A good military dude and a good guy who leads to a corrupt administration and bad presidency.
More or less.

Kinda funny you bring up both of them as Grant in this timeline was a Secretary of the Navy
 
Are you still working on this TL? I've noticed you've taken off from your signature. If you have, than I guess the world will never get to figure out what happens when Calvin Coolidge speaks up ;).
 
Are you still working on this TL? I've noticed you've taken off from your signature. If you have, than I guess the world will never get to figure out what happens when Calvin Coolidge speaks up ;).
I'm technically still working on the timeline. Main issue is figuring out how to end it.
As for why I took it off my signature, I guess I'm.... embarrassed by it? Reading it, its kinda easy to tell it was my first "real" timeline. The writing isn't the best for this one, and the delivery was kinda ehhhhh.

There was stuff I liked about it that I may use again. I actually wrote this timeline before I got my computer, so the whole thing was typed over the phone.
 
The End is Almost Here
Second Revolution: April 1917- April 1919

The Second American Revolution began in the area around Washington D.C. and quickly spread to the surrounding states within a few weeks. The Maryland state government had been overthrown and imprisoned. Delaware was further subjugated by the Worker's Army, though Governor Charles R. Miller and his family had escaped on a friendly ship to the American Congo. At the beginning of the revolution, Coolidge refused to allow the execution of political prisoners on moralistic grounds. This rule largely applied only in the areas under control of his army. By June of 1917, northern Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, portions of New York, and most of New England were under the control of the Socialist faction, also known as Reds. The interior of New York was held by the United States Army and a small Great Lakes Destroyer based out of Buffalo. Long Island remained free from the Reds, anti socialist members of the New York National Guard fleeing to the island. It was also the only port on the Atlantic side of New York friendly to the American Navy.

In the American south, the Worker's Amy was still bogged down in Virginia. Militias from the state of Kanawha would join up with the revolutionaries, helping to end the anti capitalist presence. In the deep south, the revolution was home grown instead of being aided by Loud Cal Coolidge's forces. Born a yankee, William Edward Burghardt Du Bois had moved down south decades earlier and had been a member of the fight for black rights in the states of Rubrum, Creek, and Cherokee. With the threat of communist revolution, he moved to establish black support for the Anti Communist faction, which was a costly move. Tired of the pro capitalistic message he sprouted, he was lynched, ironically by a group of Red sympathizing African Americans. The socialists of the south turned to bushwhacking as their way to combat the United States. The revolutionary movement in the south was not made up of a single movement as several groups were prominent in different regions. The Regulators were strongest in North Carolina. The Congress Of Revolutionary Equity (CORE) was strongest in Georgia and the fringes of Cherokee. One of the most influential leaders in the south was Albert Parsons along with his wife Lucy. By August, Parsons had managed to bring all of the revolutionary groups in the south under a single umbrella working towards a single goal. By the fall of 1917, the rural areas in the south were under the control of the revolutionaries. Only the major cities remained in the hands of the anti communist "Khakis." Lucy Parsons was sent as an envoy to meet with Calvin Coolidge in Washington, who had taken the mantel of The People's President, though some were in favor of abolishing the name president. Understanding the importance Albert Parsons had played in the liberation of the region, Coolidge named him the temporary director of the Southern Department, tasking him with overseeing the south's economic and political needs while also dealing with political prisoners. Like wise, Theodore Roosevelt was named temporary Director of the Northern Department, which oversaw New England and New York. Benjamin Gitlow was named temporary Director of the Mid Atlantic Department.

"President" Calvin "Loud Cal" Coolidge and the Directors
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Calvin Coolidge: President/Leader of the Socialist Revolution

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Theodore Roosevelt: Director of the Northern Department

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Benjamin Gitlow: Director of the Mid Atlantic Department

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Albert Parsons: Director of the Southern Department (Only known photo, c. 1880s)​

By 1918, with exceptions of Long Island and Main, the east coast was under the control of the Reds, though there was pockets of resistance. In the Midwest and Pacific North West, the anti communist Khakis were in control. Somewhat divided over who would serve as President of the United States, the what was left of the American Army loyal to General Miles and Wood were hampered by a lack of industry and political infighting by the governors and senators still active and not imprisoned. While the Khakis still fought over who would be president, Ohio fell to General Smedley Butler of the Worker's Army in February of 1918. After the fall of Ohio, the city of Williamsburg, Clark was named the provisional capital of the United States of America and, after many bribes and promises of favors, William Hale Thompson was elected President of the United States.
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William Hale Thompson​

Thompson proved to be a poor leader. Despite his country being in revolution, his America First rhetoric and disdain for foreign nations won him few allies. Making things worse for the Khakis was the radicalization of the mine workers in the American South west in the states of Arizona and Jackson, which was in part caused by mismanagement by the local government itself. Anybody accused of leaning to the left in either state was incarcerated in camps with harsh conditions. Filthy conditions and few camp doctors resulted in many deaths or largely innocent people who's only crime was belonging to a union or being caught saying the Reds might win the war. Mexico to the south was in the midst of its own revolution, and the border was poorly defended, men like Poncho Villa crossing in search of supplies constantly. The most influential person to cross the border was the former American sailor Carter Barrow of North Carolina. Carter had fought in the Great War before resigning and becoming a volunteer in the Mexican Revolution. When his own nation underwent revolution, he departed the life he built in Mexico and stirred up revolutionary sediments in Arizona. As people hated being jailed for little reason, he found it remarkably easy.
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During the revolution, Texas declared its secession from the United States and declared to be the Second Republic of Texas with William P. Hobby as the interim President of Texas. Neither Thompson or Coolidge recognized Texan independence. The Republic of Kansas close down its border during the conflict and proclaimed complete neutrality, which would eventually be violated after the revolution. The Khakis would, under Thompson's orders, invade and annex both Freedonia and Libertalia and occupy them after border skirmishes during the heightened tensions in late 1918. By early 1919, the American army was loosing many men to mass desertions as they became disillusioned with the cause. During the Second American Revolution, The Republic of Canada invaded Maine, which was far from peaceful under the control of Coolidge's America. The ROC had quickly grown tired of American Worker's Army soldiers illegally crossing the border to hunt down fleeing anti communists and insurgents. To prevent a war with Canada while still broiled in a civil war with the Anti Socialistic faction, Calvin Coolidge sent George W. Norris to negotiate with the Canadian Lord Protector. Canada agreed to recognize Coolidge as the legitimate president in return for punishment for those crossing Canada's borders to hunt for political enemies. Canada also *polity* requested ownership of former British Columbia for a pacific port while Vancouver Island would remain with the United States. Coolidge's government agreed to both, understanding a refusal would mean invasion.
 
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