Geronimo : What if Osama Bin Laden was killed prior to 9/11?

There's a tricky one

From Wikipedia :
The next day's election was not postponed, as Taiwanese law only allows for suspension of an election on the death of a candidate.

I remember TTL Chen was dead
It wasn’t until Sunday the 21st when the firecrackers really went off, by a razor-thin margin the deceased former President Chen Shui-bian was declared the winner of his re-election, meaning his vice-presidential candidate (and now president) Annette Lu would instantly ascend to the Presidency come inauguration day. Now, the KMT no longer stayed quiet and demanded the election be annulled and echoed dubious claims that Lu had delayed the announcement of the President's death until polling day to win the election
So this might not happening
It may have to postpone, and restart the election

Even as a Taiwanese myself, I couldn't figure our electoral system out that clearly
So ashamed of myself
 
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Next Time: Safe and Secular
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BBC Newsnight: September 4th 2004
BBC Newsnight: September 4th 2004

Hi everyone, just to let everyone know, this TL is up for the Turtledove on the poll here.
So if you think this timeline's good, you should give it a vote, not to blow my own horn, but I think the 'Darfur invasion' is my favourite piece of writing that I've done.
 
BBC Newsnight: September 4th 2004

Hi everyone, just to let everyone know, this TL is up for the Turtledove on the poll here.
So if you think this timeline's good, you should give it a vote, not to blow my own horn, but I think the 'Darfur invasion' is my favourite piece of writing that I've done.
I voted for Geronimo already
Such a brilliant work
 
a bit off topic but i wonder what would happen to the warrior cats series ITTL

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its fandom is inspired by the sparkledog/sparklecat movement of the late 2000s-early 2010s
and the later books seem kinda hunger games/harry potter esque

yet early on its fandom is inspired by pokemon, neopets and other early internet fandoms
and also the earlier books are inspired by realistic feral furry books from the 70s and 80s like watership down and redwall

im guessing like with naruto ITTL the gritty tone shift later in both series never happens
(or if it does its more like slasher horror rather than psychological horror)
 
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It might be very different
From chapter pop culture 2006
We saw MySpace were bigger than OTL
And WebTube wasn't doing well

In my opinion, the "Main Character" of this TL is : US, Afghanistan, Iraq and Russia.
Looking forward to see United States and Edwards again
at least one thing that was good about myspace is that they had their own version of the miis known as buddypoke

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Google and Facebook to this day dont even have their own version of the miis (outside of the avatars you can have on android or the stupid metaverse models that you cant even add a tail or ears to compared to something like VRChat)

and buddypoke was fully 3D too! in 2008!

BBC Newsnight: September 4th 2004

Hi everyone, just to let everyone know, this TL is up for the Turtledove on the poll here.
So if you think this timeline's good, you should give it a vote, not to blow my own horn, but I think the 'Darfur invasion' is my favourite piece of writing that I've done.
HOLY CRAP! now thats way better than 9/11 OTL

at least with 9/4 its not as creepy as 9/11 OTL (Less like an doomsday movie or the intro to a valve game and more like something out of james bond or the old arcade shooter games like silent scope or time crisis)

just the way i like my evil terrorist plots

(i have been watching on loop just for the sheer awe of it, something i would never do with real 9/11 coverage IOTL due to how disturbing it is with all the people screaming and getting pissed and getting contaminated with all that absestos in the WTC that bleed out, making 9/11 much worst is the fact that it was how the 90s ended)
 
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BBC Newsnight: September 4th 2004

Hi everyone, just to let everyone know, this TL is up for the Turtledove on the poll here.
So if you think this timeline's good, you should give it a vote, not to blow my own horn, but I think the 'Darfur invasion' is my favourite piece of writing that I've done.
Great work as always, Iwanh! I also just casted my vote for the Turtledove Awards. You got my vote my friend.

I know that George W. Bush sent condolences to Vladimir Putin and of course news reports after the 9/4 Attacks, but how did the American public react to the terrorist attacks?
 
What's goin' on over at Dubai at this time? Or is still the same as in OTL?
I'm thinking about this: Somehow, Burj Khalifa being butterflied?
And the substitution of TTL tallest skyscraper of the world would be Trump Chicago tower
Great work as always, Iwanh! I also just casted my vote for the Turtledove Awards. You got my vote my friend.

I know that George W. Bush sent condolences to Vladimir Putin and of course news reports after the 9/4 Attacks, but how did the American public react to the terrorist attacks?
I genuinely wanna see a mini chapter shows how US public and media react in that day

Maybe it's more like OTL 2015 Paris attacks?
We might see the Twin Towers and empire state building were illuminated in the colours of Russian flag?
 
Great work as always, Iwanh! I also just casted my vote for the Turtledove Awards. You got my vote my friend.

I know that George W. Bush sent condolences to Vladimir Putin and of course news reports after the 9/4 Attacks, but how did the American public react to the terrorist attacks?
IIRC it got major media coverage and the American people were horrified by the attacks, but obviously not on the level of OTL 9/11. For a couple months the airline industry was hit by a "travel panic" and airlines briefly beefed up security but ended up dropping it after complaints from passengers. The vast majority of Americans assume that a terrorist attack of that magnitude could never happen at home. I feel like the reaction to the 2015 Paris attacks is probably closer to how Americans would react, though maybe somewhat stronger simply bc for the lack of a better term 9/4 had much more of a "spectacle." It's hard to forget images of planes being crashed into buildings full of people and destroying them no matter what buildings. Again, not anything close to how Americans reacted to 9/11, my guess is that the news cycle and with it most of the public would largely move on from the attacks after a month or so as attention is drawn back to the impending presidential election.
 
Wondering how things are going in Somalia. I know Ethiopia is still invading to back up the transitional government against the Islamic Courts Union but I highly doubt the US is supporting them, which could have significant ramifications for the conflict. How important was US support in defeating the ICU IOTL?
Just an update on Africa in general might be neat, it could also provide a look at how the humanitarian mission in Darfur is going. That and Latin America, IIRC awhile back Iwanh said changes were in store for Colombia. Regardless, whatever direction you're prepared to take I await it with bated breath, this is easily in my top five favorite timelines on here!
 
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