Depends on how much Lucas wants to push for more big screen stuff. we weren't exactly inundated with it pre sale to Disney
Disney at least has to recoup it's investment and that means new stuff, which good, bad, or indifferent we have been getting post sale
Lucas seemed keen to keep tight creative and editorial control on star wars, given he's one man that inherently limits the out put. And frankly the man is 79 this year he likely doesn't want to spend too much of his time doing that. Disney again seems much more willing to put star wars into a wider range of hands (again good, bad and indifferent)
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The EU was way too bloated for a director making it work in new movies. Cutting it out was the most sensible decision Disney made, Lucas should've done it way earlier.
Not hard to incorporate. Just pick and choose the best elements - Thrawn would have been an excellent starting point.
Probably woulda been an immortalized francise like harry pottter ended it at the right time before hollywood jackals destroys its legacy like our timeline.
The Clone Wars series, and the Lego Star Wars serials would probably have stayed on Cartoon Network. Possibly more series would be made, and similarly broadcast on CN.
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One thing that might change is that John Carter (2012) would do well at the box-office, since IOTL IIRC the marketing budget of that movie was depleted so that Disney could buy Lucasfilm. If that film does well, then Disney and other studios could be more secure about making movies not based off of pre-existing ideas - and thus butterfly the 2010s trend of endless remakes, reboots, and franchises.
The franchise would be stagnant and what would exactly happen to it?
Granted, we can go and be technical with word choice.
Instead of selling Star Wars to Disney, he could instead merge the company over with a studio, with the intended goal of George Lucas having a seat at the table for whatever company LucasFilms would merge with.
My choice would be 20th Century-Fox, the company who made all the Star Wars films in the first place (in fact, it's believed that Disney buying Star Wars was why 20th Century Fox was pissed at Disney and thus refused to part with the X-Men stuff.)
So, 20th Century Fox gets Star Wars and they could potentially sell X-Men film rights back to Disney sooner along with the other stuff. Alternately, Disney helps pay 20th Centry-Fox with the buyout of LucasFilms and after the merger, Disney trades their holdings of LucasFilms to in exchange for the X-Men film rights to 20th Century-Fox.
20th Century Fox would likely be not as experimental as they worked with Star Wars before and so may have a familiar gist. Beyond that, am unsure. After all, Expanded Universe stuff getting cleared was apparently a decision in LucasFilms rather than Disney. Though my guess would be potentially they could do halfsies; all the stuff before the prequels like KOTOR remains canon while the stuff post-Episode VI is no longer canon. While it would still annoy people, it'd still be a smart move since it would allow for a new cohesive direction going forward. And if Lucas and the other older folk are there, we could see earlier and more thorough incorporation of the choice picks of the Expanded Universe enter the new canon, now with a better sense of direction.
Disney would X-Men film rights sooner and perhaps with the extra money, try to get Sony to haggle and buy the Spider-Man film rights sooner.
Granted, we can go and be technical with word choice.
Instead of selling Star Wars to Disney, he could instead merge the company over with a studio, with the intended goal of George Lucas having a seat at the table for whatever company LucasFilms would merge with.
My choice would be 20th Century-Fox, the company who made all the Star Wars films in the first place (in fact, it's believed that Disney buying Star Wars was why 20th Century Fox was pissed at Disney and thus refused to part with the X-Men stuff.)
So, 20th Century Fox gets Star Wars and they could potentially sell X-Men film rights back to Disney sooner along with the other stuff. Alternately, Disney helps pay 20th Centry-Fox with the buyout of LucasFilms and after the merger, Disney trades their holdings of LucasFilms to in exchange for the X-Men film rights to 20th Century-Fox.
20th Century Fox would likely be not as experimental as they worked with Star Wars before and so may have a familiar gist. Beyond that, am unsure. After all, Expanded Universe stuff getting cleared was apparently a decision in LucasFilms rather than Disney. Though my guess would be potentially they could do halfsies; all the stuff before the prequels like KOTOR remains canon while the stuff post-Episode VI is no longer canon. While it would still annoy people, it'd still be a smart move since it would allow for a new cohesive direction going forward. And if Lucas and the other older folk are there, we could see earlier and more thorough incorporation of the choice picks of the Expanded Universe enter the new canon, now with a better sense of direction.
Disney would X-Men film rights sooner and perhaps with the extra money, try to get Sony to haggle and buy the Spider-Man film rights sooner.
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I know better then to say “anything in this new timeline would be better the the original time line”.
But…
ANYTHING IN THIS NEW TIME LINE WOULD BE BETTER THEN WHAT WE GOT FROM DISNEY IN THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE.
Disney screwed SW six ways from Sunday for multiple reasons. The best of the movies was Rogue 1 and if you look at it, that wasn’t any good and had big issues and messed with the established lore. Such as suddenly it was deliberate design not messed up desigb, suddenly Star Destroyers can enter atmosphere etc.
Not saying Lucus was great. His episode 1,2, and 3 had significant issues but the only good thing about 7-8-9 was they made 1-2-3 look good.
But…
ANYTHING IN THIS NEW TIME LINE WOULD BE BETTER THEN WHAT WE GOT FROM DISNEY IN THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE.
Disney screwed SW six ways from Sunday for multiple reasons. The best of the movies was Rogue 1 and if you look at it, that wasn’t any good and had big issues and messed with the established lore. Such as suddenly it was deliberate design not messed up desigb, suddenly Star Destroyers can enter atmosphere etc.
Not saying Lucus was great. His episode 1,2, and 3 had significant issues but the only good thing about 7-8-9 was they made 1-2-3 look good.
People would still complain about how he supposedly raped their childhoods.
Plus, casual moviegoers make up a larger segment of the audience than the fanboys. Period.
That's why the EU was taken out IOTL.
Can one conclusively prove that casual moviegoers would have enjoyed EU less than what we got instead?
Assuming George doesn't sell to anyone else, There's no sequel trilogy, for better or for worse. What could happen is that the technology that was in development with LucasFilm like Stagecraft gets used for Star Wars Underworld in the late 2010s. Star Wars is too 'monolithic' as pop culture goes to fade away ultimately, but it'd probably recede into the background(as much as every other person having a stormtrooper or star wars shirt counts as it receding).
General Audiences don't care about the EU or about anything that happened in the Old Republic Era in the first place, and they never did care. You could easily maintain two separate canons out of sight and say that "We'll be taking the best of the EU(meaning we're *NOT* putting in Luuke or Triclops) and keeping that in the New Canon with some tweaks for fans(Ugh, *fine*. You can have Thrawn and Revan, but another peep out of you and I'll delete Mara Jade!)"
John Carter WAS based off an existing IP(Jon Carter of Mars). The big change is that due to Studio's love of hopping on bandwagons, assuming John Carter does gangbusters, you could see a bit of a pulp fantasy/sci-fi wave, especially as there's a big Sequel Trilogy sized hole. Maybe Dune gets put into production by Paramount again after seeing the success of Jon Carter? Maybe a big budget Conan reboot?
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I would guess Lucas would die early from the overwork needed to run the franchise.
I can see something like this happening if this happens.
Elon Musk buys the Star Wars from the heirs of Lucas and pays well over twice its value as Musk claims to be a huge Star Wars fan. (However, Musk often displays a remarkable ignorance of the series, confusing details in it with details from Star Trek, The Thunderbirds, the Princess Bride, The Matrix, Ayn Rand Wikipedia entries, etc.) Musk says Star Wars also will be the perfect tie-in to popularize hisnightmarish fantasies plans for saving humanity colonizing Mars via his SpaceX. (Musk fails to mention, let alone understand, that one of the reason earth faces an environmental crises are environmentally destructive companies like SpaceX and selfish billionaires.)
On the day the deal is to close at Lucas Ranch, Musk shows up carrying a new black board and a toilet, which he apparently means to symbolize that he's starting with a clean slate and there's going to a lot new "stuff" coming from him.
Musk, using his famous super-genius, then orders what was Lucas Films (soon to be renamed X) to produce a whole series of new Star War films where Jar Jar Binks is the protagonist. Binks is on a mission to move all life from the current galaxie to a new galaxie far, far away. Binks says he needs to do this because life in this galaxy has run out of living space--the current galaxy has been doomed by a destructive virus that resembles a six-pointed snowflake and causes the minds of those infected to be alert and aware of other life. (It also causes those infected to darken in color.) Most regular living creatures can be infected this virus and, when infected, they become empathetic and non-violent. Consequently, Binks has a created clone army of resistant moon-faced super-geniuses, inculcated by social media. These clones are to transport those living in the parts of the galaxy where virus hasn't yet reached, which glow red, to the new galaxie. The clones will also go to areas of the of galaxie where the virus is endemic, and destroy all life in the infected zones to prevent the virus from spreading. The virus makes these areas glow blue.
Musk begins production of the three films simultaneously, claiming he will apply his engineering knowledge to create a new way of producing films. He calls this X. Musk says X will revolutionize fllm-making cut costs by. Rational people soon point out these will be the most eXpensive X (rated) films ever made.
Musk then immediately fires 80% of the production crew and cast from Lucas Films. The few old stars who he hasn't fired refuse to appear in the films and quit. Consequently, Musk hires such conservative stars as James Woods, Kevin Sorbo, Victoria Jackson, RoseAnne Barr, Stacey Dash, and Cha-Chi. Exhibitors immediately complain.
Variety reports that Musk has ordered the films to adopt the style of his favorite film maker Leni Reifenstahl. Tucker Carlson praises the uniforms uniforms worn by Jar Jar Binks's clone army outfits. Elle notes the uniforms are based on Hugo Boss drawings f from the 1930s.
Various groups and spokes people note that the extermination of a certain group people who have a six point figure in them by an army dressed in Hugo Boss clothes has some unsettling parallel. The EU raises issues about its release in the EU. Israel's reaction is stronger, though they deny the rumors of Musk being any hit list.
Actors who worked on the original star wars films are also critical. Ian McDiarmid said he could never imagine, let alone play, a character as evil as Musk. James Earl Jones and Mark Hammill publicly mock Musk saying the Farce is wih him. Fan pre-emptively promise to boycott the film. Musk call Star War fans who complain and threaten to boycott "shrill" and accuses them of being against artistic freedom. He calls Hamill a has been, and mocks the late Carrie Fisker, who Musk apparently doen't know is dead, as being a crack head.
Variety predicts the films to be bomb so big that it'll make Howard the Duck look like Gone with the Wind. All major exhibitors and streaming services pull out after HBO tentatively agrees to show the series and loses 25% of it subscribers in the following week. Musk finally gets a distribution deal lined up for the films series: they are made direct to cable on the One American News Network. This happens after ONN was booted off 2/3 of its cable systems. Blackboard and toilet memes abound.
However, before the films are anywhere near completed, what many now call a miracle occurs.
Musk has pressured his underlings at SpaceX to hurry the launch schedule of the giant Starship rocket. After several aborted launch attempts the Starship finally gets in the air on a cloudy day in April. Musk is in the audience for this.
Things quickly get weird.
The rocket does take-off but after about 10 second in the air, as it passes through a cloud, the rocket topples from it trajectory as if a giant hand had pushed it. Strange static is heard on the launchsite's audio net. To many it sounds like a familiar woman's voice saying "You're not going to Mars, you're going straight to hell!" The rocket then crashes to earth, landing right where Musk was watching the launch. Musk, along with his closest henches, is incinerated.
As millions watch and listen to recording of the launch, a belief goes viral over the internet: The spirit of Carrie Fisher reach out from the afterworld and killed Musk to save Star Wars. Millions independently report the static sounded like Fisher voice. Over the following weeks various computer-analyses of the recordings find remarkable similarities between the static and Fisher's voice. Similarly millions note that Fisher's profile can be seen formed by some of the clouds and one bank of clouds look like that white thing she wore in a New Hope or whatever the real first Star Wars is called.
After Musk's death there are several years of uncertainty as to who owns the rights to Star Wars films. They finally end up with his estranged daughter Vivian Jenna Wilson, some sort academic dude from Utah, and a Canadian bureaucrat. With scripts by AH's own @Worffan101 and @Doctor What, the Star Wars franchise is revitalized and restored to its greatness.
Also, as a result of the events leading to the death of Musk, a new religion, is founded. It's called Carrying On in honor of idea that Carrie Fisher's spirit carried on beyond death. Among its tenets are
(1) Caring for your home planet and its inhabitants so some asshole with a giant spaceship doesn't destroy it in the name of a silly, power-mad fantasy and
(2) Not exploiting pop culture icons for ill-conceived, self-serving goals.
The highest achievement in Carrying On is felt to be being one with the spirit of Carrie Fisher, which is called Getting Leiaed.
Conversely, avaricious, ignorant people, such as Musk ITTL, who violate the tenets of Carrying On are said to be on the Dork Side.
Carrying On spreads across the planet. World unity is soon achieved. The Earth is saved and restored to an environmental paradise. Eventually, Mars is visited, but only after an environmentally sound way is found to make the journey--and Mar is never terra-formed, as the idea is on the Dork Side.
I can see something like this happening if this happens.
Elon Musk buys the Star Wars from the heirs of Lucas and pays well over twice its value as Musk claims to be a huge Star Wars fan. (However, Musk often displays a remarkable ignorance of the series, confusing details in it with details from Star Trek, The Thunderbirds, the Princess Bride, The Matrix, Ayn Rand Wikipedia entries, etc.) Musk says Star Wars also will be the perfect tie-in to popularize his
On the day the deal is to close at Lucas Ranch, Musk shows up carrying a new black board and a toilet, which he apparently means to symbolize that he's starting with a clean slate and there's going to a lot new "stuff" coming from him.
Musk, using his famous super-genius, then orders what was Lucas Films (soon to be renamed X) to produce a whole series of new Star War films where Jar Jar Binks is the protagonist. Binks is on a mission to move all life from the current galaxie to a new galaxie far, far away. Binks says he needs to do this because life in this galaxy has run out of living space--the current galaxy has been doomed by a destructive virus that resembles a six-pointed snowflake and causes the minds of those infected to be alert and aware of other life. (It also causes those infected to darken in color.) Most regular living creatures can be infected this virus and, when infected, they become empathetic and non-violent. Consequently, Binks has a created clone army of resistant moon-faced super-geniuses, inculcated by social media. These clones are to transport those living in the parts of the galaxy where virus hasn't yet reached, which glow red, to the new galaxie. The clones will also go to areas of the of galaxie where the virus is endemic, and destroy all life in the infected zones to prevent the virus from spreading. The virus makes these areas glow blue.
Musk begins production of the three films simultaneously, claiming he will apply his engineering knowledge to create a new way of producing films. He calls this X. Musk says X will revolutionize fllm-making cut costs by. Rational people soon point out these will be the most eXpensive X (rated) films ever made.
Musk then immediately fires 80% of the production crew and cast from Lucas Films. The few old stars who he hasn't fired refuse to appear in the films and quit. Consequently, Musk hires such conservative stars as James Woods, Kevin Sorbo, Victoria Jackson, RoseAnne Barr, Stacey Dash, and Cha-Chi. Exhibitors immediately complain.
Variety reports that Musk has ordered the films to adopt the style of his favorite film maker Leni Reifenstahl. Tucker Carlson praises the uniforms uniforms worn by Jar Jar Binks's clone army outfits. Elle notes the uniforms are based on Hugo Boss drawings f from the 1930s.
Various groups and spokes people note that the extermination of a certain group people who have a six point figure in them by an army dressed in Hugo Boss clothes has some unsettling parallel. The EU raises issues about its release in the EU. Israel's reaction is stronger, though they deny the rumors of Musk being any hit list.
Actors who worked on the original star wars films are also critical. Ian McDiarmid said he could never imagine, let alone play, a character as evil as Musk. James Earl Jones and Mark Hammill publicly mock Musk saying the Farce is wih him. Fan pre-emptively promise to boycott the film. Musk call Star War fans who complain and threaten to boycott "shrill" and accuses them of being against artistic freedom. He calls Hamill a has been, and mocks the late Carrie Fisker, who Musk apparently doen't know is dead, as being a crack head.
Variety predicts the films to be bomb so big that it'll make Howard the Duck look like Gone with the Wind. All major exhibitors and streaming services pull out after HBO tentatively agrees to show the series and loses 25% of it subscribers in the following week. Musk finally gets a distribution deal lined up for the films series: they are made direct to cable on the One American News Network. This happens after ONN was booted off 2/3 of its cable systems. Blackboard and toilet memes abound.
However, before the films are anywhere near completed, what many now call a miracle occurs.
Musk has pressured his underlings at SpaceX to hurry the launch schedule of the giant Starship rocket. After several aborted launch attempts the Starship finally gets in the air on a cloudy day in April. Musk is in the audience for this.
Things quickly get weird.
The rocket does take-off but after about 10 second in the air, as it passes through a cloud, the rocket topples from it trajectory as if a giant hand had pushed it. Strange static is heard on the launchsite's audio net. To many it sounds like a familiar woman's voice saying "You're not going to Mars, you're going straight to hell!" The rocket then crashes to earth, landing right where Musk was watching the launch. Musk, along with his closest henches, is incinerated.
As millions watch and listen to recording of the launch, a belief goes viral over the internet: The spirit of Carrie Fisher reach out from the afterworld and killed Musk to save Star Wars. Millions independently report the static sounded like Fisher voice. Over the following weeks various computer-analyses of the recordings find remarkable similarities between the static and Fisher's voice. Similarly millions note that Fisher's profile can be seen formed by some of the clouds and one bank of clouds look like that white thing she wore in a New Hope or whatever the real first Star Wars is called.
After Musk's death there are several years of uncertainty as to who owns the rights to Star Wars films. They finally end up with his estranged daughter Vivian Jenna Wilson, some sort academic dude from Utah, and a Canadian bureaucrat. With scripts by AH's own @Worffan101 and @Doctor What, the Star Wars franchise is revitalized and restored to its greatness.
Also, as a result of the events leading to the death of Musk, a new religion, is founded. It's called Carrying On in honor of idea that Carrie Fisher's spirit carried on beyond death. Among its tenets are
(1) Caring for your home planet and its inhabitants so some asshole with a giant spaceship doesn't destroy it in the name of a silly, power-mad fantasy and
(2) Not exploiting pop culture icons for ill-conceived, self-serving goals.
The highest achievement in Carrying On is felt to be being one with the spirit of Carrie Fisher, which is called Getting Leiaed.
Conversely, avaricious, ignorant people, such as Musk ITTL, who violate the tenets of Carrying On are said to be on the Dork Side.
Carrying On spreads across the planet. World unity is soon achieved. The Earth is saved and restored to an environmental paradise. Eventually, Mars is visited, but only after an environmentally sound way is found to make the journey--and Mar is never terra-formed, as the idea is on the Dork Side.
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On the contrary, I actually felt myself growing a few hundred extra brain cells upon reading this. Funniest thing I've seen on these forums in a while.