Dominion of Southern America - Updated July 1, 2018

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Glen, Feb 22, 2010.

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  1. metastasis_d Full Battle Rattle

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    Congratulations Glen very very much deserved!
     
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  6. Arachnid Arachnid once more.

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    Congrats Glen, well deserved award.
     
  7. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    That's not a terrible description of Korsgaardists....

    Not even as a mysterious vigilante outlaw working to bring down the man - think Brazil....:eek:
     
  8. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    So, quoted a bunch of stuff here on the Brazilians through OTL Bolivia discussion, and I was wondering if anyone had a proposed workable route.

     
  9. Arachnid Arachnid once more.

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    I don't think there is a plausible route.
     
  10. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    Even for a small group pulling a Hannibal?
     
  11. Arachnid Arachnid once more.

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    It is crossable but the logistical requirements would mean it would bear far more relation to an exploratory mission, i.e. a massive supply chain* to support a tiny number (like sub 100) at the "tip" than an actual military operation. That said coming out of the desert would give them one of the biggest cases of "surprise!" in the history of warfare.

    *By massive supply chain I mean lots and lots of camels carrying water and fodder, look at the structure of some of the Australian exploratory expeditions.
     
  12. Plumber Manifest Destiny inspired Lebensraum

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    No. There would be a handful left or supplies would be dreadfully expensive.
     
  13. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    In the pre-war years, a number of dissidents fled the tyrrany of the new Korgaardista regime of the self proclaimed Mexican Empire for shelter in the Dominion of Southern America. Many of these exiles plotted to bring revolution to Mexico and free the homeland from the cult of personality of Castellanos. However, before their plans could come to fruition, Mexico marched to war against the Dominion. On the heels of the Dominion invasion, many Mexicans in exile formed volunteer companies to fight the Korsgaardista regime's act of aggression. The most famous of the Mexican Free Companies was the Legion of Quintana (it is an interesting side note on the Mexican psyche that both sides sought to associate themselves with Quintana's legacy). The LoQ showed the bravery, the daring, and the cunning of the Mexican Republican, and would earn a fierce reputation in the war. The Korsgaardista led Mexican Army threatened execution for any Mexican fighting in the Free Companies.

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  14. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    Okay, noted - let me ponder the most elegant way of disposing of this.

    On a completely unrelated note - I am somewhat saddened that no one has commented on my Free Mexican Companies post - I was rather happy with that one....
     
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    the companies might make for an interesting sub culture if they aren't welcome back in to Mexico. also is Castellanos supposed to have a tilde? if not i can think of some nasty insults involving the last for digits:D:p
     
  16. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    It doesn't have a tilde so feel free to create some propaganda!:D And yes, they could make an interesting subculture. Thanks!:D
     
  17. SpazzReflex Induce vomiting if contacted

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    Monarchists and Republicans. You never really change, do you, Mexico?
     
  18. Glen ASB & Left Hand of IAN Moderator

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    Despite the use of the term Republican, it is actually more like Totalitarians versus Democrats.
     
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    Glen

    Congratulations on the Turtledove. Well earned. Been away a few days so just catching up now.

    On the Brazilian invasion you could simply have it attempted and fail totally. Something like Korgaardistism could well see some 'brilliant leader' decide that its a valid operation and the determination and commitment to the cause of the devout Korgaarists will see them through mere material short-falls. After all its happened often enough in recent history.

    The Mexican free companies are an interesting twist and could well be very important in the outcome of the following peace. If as seems likely the good guys come out on top, at least in the Americas, then they could form the core of a new free Mexican government. Think this is better than the alternatives of the victors having to occupy parts of it or a vengeful/nervous DSA deciding to remove a few border areas from Mexico and the lasting tension that could cause.

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    Pardon me for asking this, but what exactly is your distinction between Republican and Democrat? The only possible difference I could suggest is using "Democrat" to mean "Constitutional Monarchist" but your own use of the term "Republican" seems to have eliminated that possibility.