Die Atombomben der Bundesrepublik: An Oral History of Germany's Nuclear Weapons Program
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It is Johann Gottfried Piefke's Prussia's glory
No, just no. Wrong link maybe?^^
...oooooooh, so that's where the Austrian German term Piefke - an exonym/mild slur for "German" in the non-linguistic sense - comes from.
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Yes unfortunately...
If they couldn't poach german music talent and pass it off as their own, it couldn't be good.
Those uncultured wannabe germans never had a sense for good music.
It's written. Thank the half price Oktoberfest beer. Need to edit it this evening. Will be up by 930P Chicago time.It's getting very close to needle o'clock...
"If You Hide A Massive Secret Amongst Many Other Secrets, Nobody Asks Questions"
The Admiral continued, "At the same time the Stasi was starting to burrow their way several thousands of feet towards the target Sondenwaffenlager at Stolzenhain, all the players involved were also starting to think about what happened once the special weapons were safely ensconced within the socialist fatherland. They would have to be converted, maintained, and put into very, very quiet service with the Armed Forces of the GDR. As I mentioned, the Stasi was quietly putting a team of physicists together to exploit, convert, and maintain the captured weapons. During one of their discussions, Honnecker asked Wolf for his opinion on the most secure way to put the weapons into service. For Wolf, this was an easy answer-the Volksmarine. Whereas the Volksarmee and the National People's Air Force were watched very, very closely by the KGB and the Soviet Armed Forces, the coastal, brown water Volksmarine was watched much less so by the ever paranoid Soviets. The Navy's leadership was also much less....politically attached to their Soviet counterparts. At the same time, the Volksmarine maintained a squadron of Su-22 fighter bombers at Laage, just outside Rostock. They were as good of a delivery system as anything else in the Republic. And that's why you're getting this briefing from me, and not from a Bundeswehr General."
The Chancellor interjected "Is that why we kept those bloody MiG-29s around for so long? Also, precisely where are these damned things kept and maintained?"
The Admiral smiled "Ja, but NATO really loved keeping those MiGs around for aggressor training. They even made some documentaries about what was jokingly called Fightertown Laage. But the weapons aren't stored on the airbase. The freefall gravity bombs themselves are kept in a small hidden bunker underneath what was formerly the Office of Naval Intelligence for the Volksmarine in Rostock. The entrance to which is hidden in the classified records section of the archive there. It's really not all that big or glamorous. That building is only a few hundred yards away from the University Hospital of Rostock. In an emergency, the bombs would rapidly make their way from the Volksmarine bunker to the hospital, up to the hospital helipad via the giant elevators.
Of course, the Stasi and Wolf wanted to keep their fingers in the pie. So they kept control of the fuses and arming mechanisms to the bombs. Those were kept in a locked vault at the Stasi HQ in Rostock. In an emergency, another helo would touch down in the park just across the street from the regional Stasi HQ to pick up the fuses concurrently. After arrival at Laage, the bombs would be rapidly assembled and mated to the Sukhoi strike fighters.
Today they would be mated to the Eurofighters there; the covert budget for reworking the bombs to work on non-Soviet aircraft was bigger than you'd think. The heavy maintenance for the weapons is done elsewhere, in an annex to what was the Stasi's deep underground storage bunker for important records not too far from the town of Marienburg in the Ore Mountains near the Czech border. The Soviets didn't ask questions when it was massively expanded-they knew the Stasi were the world's greatest packrats. That facility remains in use covered as a secure records facility for the Bundeswehr to this day. The bombs are and were moved back and forth in specially secured and lead lined crates marked as highly classified documents and guarded as such. If you hide a massive secret amongst many other secrets, nobody asks questions."
The Chancellor interjected "Is that why we kept those bloody MiG-29s around for so long? Also, precisely where are these damned things kept and maintained?"
The Admiral smiled "Ja, but NATO really loved keeping those MiGs around for aggressor training. They even made some documentaries about what was jokingly called Fightertown Laage. But the weapons aren't stored on the airbase. The freefall gravity bombs themselves are kept in a small hidden bunker underneath what was formerly the Office of Naval Intelligence for the Volksmarine in Rostock. The entrance to which is hidden in the classified records section of the archive there. It's really not all that big or glamorous. That building is only a few hundred yards away from the University Hospital of Rostock. In an emergency, the bombs would rapidly make their way from the Volksmarine bunker to the hospital, up to the hospital helipad via the giant elevators.
Of course, the Stasi and Wolf wanted to keep their fingers in the pie. So they kept control of the fuses and arming mechanisms to the bombs. Those were kept in a locked vault at the Stasi HQ in Rostock. In an emergency, another helo would touch down in the park just across the street from the regional Stasi HQ to pick up the fuses concurrently. After arrival at Laage, the bombs would be rapidly assembled and mated to the Sukhoi strike fighters.
Today they would be mated to the Eurofighters there; the covert budget for reworking the bombs to work on non-Soviet aircraft was bigger than you'd think. The heavy maintenance for the weapons is done elsewhere, in an annex to what was the Stasi's deep underground storage bunker for important records not too far from the town of Marienburg in the Ore Mountains near the Czech border. The Soviets didn't ask questions when it was massively expanded-they knew the Stasi were the world's greatest packrats. That facility remains in use covered as a secure records facility for the Bundeswehr to this day. The bombs are and were moved back and forth in specially secured and lead lined crates marked as highly classified documents and guarded as such. If you hide a massive secret amongst many other secrets, nobody asks questions."
This story just keeps getting better and better. I wonder if foreigners ever come close to discovering the secret. Perhaps when those who are made to look like the guilty party can make it clear they are innocent it sparks a more intensive search for the real thieves?
Edit: Nit-picking, "That building is only a few hundred yards away from the University Hospital of Rostock." Surely it would be "metres"?
Edit: Nit-picking, "That building is only a few hundred yards away from the University Hospital of Rostock." Surely it would be "metres"?
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I found myself thinking of what Scholz's reaction to this briefing would be; my first thought was that he would want to mentally forget that it ever happened and pretend that Germany didn't have them.
If only I could reward myself for having written this last post by watching the newest season of Babylon Berlin, but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Netflix isn't even telling us when they'll put it out. Scheisse.
Noted. You can tell that I wrote parts of this watching the Steeler game on Sunday.
If only I could reward myself for having written this last post by watching the newest season of Babylon Berlin, but noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Netflix isn't even telling us when they'll put it out. Scheisse.
No one knows. Scholz plays his cards close to his chest at the best of times.
Okay, you can pull the needles out again on, let us say the 24th, if there isn't an update.
Now, now. If we 'assassinate' him we're guaranteed not to get an update. We need to activate the Bitcoin "enforcers" who will only break his legs (thus ensuring plenty of time to type on a keyboard) so let's not go overboard.... (evil grin)
Randy
