Democratic People's Republic of Egypt: Communist Egypt

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by ahmed1ghoneim, Aug 14, 2019.

  1. ahmed1ghoneim Member

    Apr 30, 2018
    Assume here that the Egyptian revolution in 1952 was carried out by the Communists in Egypt And they managed to control it What will the Middle East look like if this happens?Especially with full Soviet support for communist Egypt The success of Egypt's nuclear program with the support of the Soviet Union Is it possible that War between Egypt and Israel Western powers should intervene in a political peace solution So as not to happen a great Middle Eastern war Especially with the full support of two superpowers of their closest allies in the region
  2. ahmed1ghoneim Member

    Apr 30, 2018
    Is there interaction here?
  3. David T Well-Known Member

    Nov 8, 2007
    I find the idea intriguing but very unlikely. I wrote about this elsewhere:


    Is a successful Communist coup in 1952 in Egypt totally out of the question? The Democratic Movement for National Liberation (HADITU) did have some success in infiltrating the military, including the Free Officers Movement: "Several prominent figures in the Revolutionary Command Council and the Free Officers had links to HADITU. RCC member Yusuf Siddiq was a member of HADITU. Another RCC member, Khalid Muhyi ad-Din, had briefly been affiliated to HADITU in 1947. Whilst not a RCC member, HADITU member Ahmed Hamrush was a prominent figure in the Free Officers Movement. HADITU member Ahmed Fu'ad, a military judge, acted as a liaison between HADITU and Gamal Abdel Nasser. However, in retrospect it appears that HADITU overestimated its influence over the RCC. The RCC also contained followers of the Muslim Brotherhood, and neither HADITU nor the Brotherhood were in control over the revolution."

    Accorfing to Tareq Y. Ismael and Rifa'at El-Sa'id, The Communist Movement in Egypt, 1920-1988:

    "Haditu's relationship with the army began among the air force mechanical school graduates, through whom Haditu was able to create new cadres among the lower ranks, army sergeants, and eventually army officers. In many cases, Haditu had direct or indirect contacts with members of the free officers' movement, though it was shrewd enough to keep some of its own officers from joining the movement so as to allow for a measure of safety and security. Even Nasser did not know of Youssef Seddiq's relationship with Haditu until after the revolution.

    "Haditu infiltrated both the army and the free officers' movement and was observing the Moslem Brotherhood, which was steadily gaining influence. Nonetheless, although it appeared that both the Haditu and the Moslem Brotherhood were sufficiently well organized and popular among the people to lead a movement, they lacked impetus.

    "Haditu's failure to take power was a result of the wide gulf between its political influence and its actual power; this situation was further exacerbated by the presence of the Moslem Brotherhood as a competing element and an obstacle. Also after the Cairo fire, most of Haditu's cadres were in prison. Nevertheless, Haditu was quick to express its support of the army movement, not recognizing that the free officers were also connected with the Moslem Brotherhood as well as the United States...."

    The US did nothing to stop the 1952 coup because it regarded the Free Officers as anti-Communist and pro-US (which was largely true at the time). Obviously it would have reacted differently to an openly Communist coup. But can we see a situation in which there are more Yussuf Sidiqs and the RCC is dominated by Communists without anyone fully realizing it until they have consolidated power?

    I'll admit that it's sort of weird to think of Egypt in the 1950's controlled by a movement led by an exiled Jew...
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